i can make clouds appear and dissapear!

[ripcurly]

i figured out how to do it! it is so cool. you just find a small cloud (best to start real small) and imagine it dissappearing. it helps to focus on the blue around the edges to give yourself a visual. then you can work on making them appear.

does anyonen else do this. is anyone here telekinetic. can you lift x wings out of swamps? ha this is so cool and im a novice so there must be people who can. peeace

[Ijin Kaion]

small thing but still worth the amazement.
congratulations you mastered combined water and wind recomposition:P

visualisation is but one way to get things done.
i myself work from within myself and don`t rely on anything outside of me.
but that`s one way, but nice going keep it up and you`ll be making red clouds one day:P

abayo^_^

[InJoy]

I saw this post last night, and wondered if this was actually possible, and if it was, whether it was repeatable. Well, today I was in a car as a passenger and noticed that the sky had several small clouds floating around. I kept my eye on them, off and on, for about a half hour, and found that they weren't really doing much at all. Not much wind. Maybe a new little cloud here or there, but mostly they just hung in the sky like little cotton balls.

So, I built up my courage (yes, it turns out I needed a little courage; I was afraid I would learn I couldn't do it) and I focused my attention on one little cloud. I willed it to disintegrate... and it did. No more than three minutes after I started, the cloud was gone.

No way, I thought!

So I told my husband, who was driving, what I'd just done. I could tell by his smile that he was thinking something along the lines of, "okie dokie, sweetie. whatever you say..." So I pointed to a cloud right in front of us, made sure he knew which one I was pointing to, and then told him I would try that one. Three (maybe four) minutes later, it was gone too. All the surrounding clouds were right where they'd been before. Just that one was gone.

That earned me a raised set of eyebrows and a slightly impressed sounding "hmmm".

We changed directions, headed for an appointment a few miles north, and I spotted a cloud that was about five times the size of the two I had just disintegrated. I told my husband that it would be gone before we got to our destination. I had about ten minutes. (There was that little pang of nervousness again.)

It disappeared with four minutes to spare. Again, all the surrounding clouds remained pretty much where they'd been before.

I used the ideas set forth by ripcurly to begin with. I focused on the edges. However, I found that if I looked away from the cloud for a few seconds, it seemed to disappear even more quickly, and surprisingly (to me) it broke down as a whole rather than just shrinking. Another funny trick I tried was "eraser trees". During the ride north, the road was lined with tall trees. When one would pass between the cloud and my line of vision, I imagined that the treetop was wiping away the cloud. This also seemed to "erase" the cloud faster than staring at it. (In fact, of all the things I tried, staring was the slowest.)

I only had about three or four minutes in the car after that, and during that time, my quick attempt to create a cloud failed. The drive home was after dark. I guess that is a game for another day.

It was great fun, and an amazing feeling to use my mind this way. I had a big silly grin the whole time (which I think helped the process actually). Thanks, ripcurly, for inspiring me to try this little experiment.

[tropicality]

Taken from Noble Realms / Visual Ray Cloudbusting

I don't know if this subject has been discussed before or how many members of the forum have heard of or tried visual ray cloudbusting (I
know Tom will have) but it is possibly the most amazing, visually stunning and easily achievable display of mind over matter that it is
possible to do and should be tried by every alternative thinker (and everyone else!).
Basically it is the act of dissapating clouds by using the power of the mind and it truly is the most graphic way to prove that there are
unseen forces at work in the universe, that cannot be measured or detected by conventional science.
It does not require any special psychic skills and is very easy to learn and teach to others...most people seem to be able to do it, even if
they don't believe in it (careful though, it can freak some heavily indoctrinated people out...infact, I've noticed you can bust a cloud right in front of some people's eyes and they will completely ignore it as if they hadn't even seen it!)
I guarantee that the first time you try this you will not be able to wipe the smile off your face and you will do it whenever the weather
conditions are suitable.

I, like probably most others who have tried this, was introduced to it through the works of Trevor James Constable in his book 'The
Cosmic Pulse Of Life".

Here's what he has to say about the visual ray which is basically an extension of the etheric energy body...

"the visual ray acts similarly to a radar beam, going out into space from the human being and extending consciousness out into space.
Each eye emits energy, but one eye is the "master eye" and controls and the whole process. Through the visual ray, the living energy in
you makes contact with external objects, reaching out and grasping those objects, as it were. The visual ray is of the same quality as the
rays leaving your fingertips, but is much more sensitive and more functional because of its direct connection to consciousness. The
visual ray is also under the direction, in a mechanical sense, of the exquisite human ocular apparatus."

And here's how to cloudbust using the visual ray...

1. Pick a day when you have a number of small, cottonball looking, fair weather clouds.

2. Decide on the cloud you want to dissipate and have someone photograph, videotape, or at least witness what you are about to do. The

experience is exhilarating and it should be shared.

3. Resolve within yourself that you're going to evaporate the cloud with your visual ray and understand that you will draw the orgone (etheric) energy that was residing within the cloud, into your eyes and then into your body.

4. Concentrate on the cloud you want to bust and slice your visual ray back and forth across it, checkerboard style, horizontally and
vertically. Afterwards, bore holes into it and keep slicing the fragments as the cloud begins to break up. You are drawing the orgone
energy into your eyes and into you. Keep up the attack. Eventually (within five minutes), the cloud will completely disappear. The first
time I did this was electrifying. I was besides myself with giddiness and self delight. You can continue busting clouds, but only up to a
point. Eventually, you will absorb as much orgone energy as your body can tolerate at the moment and afterwards absorb no more.
Excess orgone can discharge as electricity or through sexual ejaculation.

I have a couple of comments to add to this...

I have learned the hard way not to overdo cloudbusting. Despite what Trevor Constable says regarding not being able to absorb too much etheric (orgone) energy, it is definitely possible if you are energy sensitive. A small overdose will give you a distinct headache between the eyes (third eye region) for an hour or so and prolonged (hours and hours) cloudbusting can lead to very edgy anxious feelings (a bit like a caffeine overdose but worse) which can persist for days.

Only try to cloudbust smallish white clouds of the sort that you would get on a clear fresh day. Do not try to dissipate grey or black clouds, very large clouds or high cirrus clouds as the energy behind these clouds is of a different grade and is not good for you.

Cloudbusting can be very quick and effective if you get a few of you doing it at the same time, concentrating on the same cloud...the cloud will impressively disappear in no time.

You can vary the technique Trevor Constable describes above to be more effective for you personally. I sometimes visualise a conveyor belt between myself and the cloud ferrying the etheric energy towards me.

Once you have established the energy flow, you do not even have to be looking at the cloud for the cloud to continue to evaporate.

Cloudbusting can be done through windows without any problems at all. You can even do it from a jet airliner from above the clouds as I have on may occassions!

Clouds can also be created using the visual ray and following the principals of cloudbusting using cloudbusting apparatus (see Montalk's site for details).
This can basically be achieved by cloudbusting in a clear part of the sky against the general etheric flow (general cloud movement direction). In my experience it takes a lot more effort than cloudbusting and must be kept up for at least 10 minutes on the same patch of sky. Eventually though, in the right conditions, a small cloud will miraculously appear quite a long way upwind from where you cloudbusted. It will then drift downwind and hit the patch you were concentrating on and dissipate again.

Visual ray cloudbusting is amazing and really should be tried...don't take my word for it, get outside and do it!

[InJoy]

Originally Posted by tropicality

A small overdose will give you a distinct headache between the eyes (third eye region) for an hour or so and prolonged (hours and hours) cloudbusting can lead to very edgy anxious feelings (a bit like a caffeine overdose but worse) which can persist for days.
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Very interesting article, Tropicality, thank you. I had never heard of this method, so I didn't spend any energy focusing on my eyes, or energy coming back from the cloud, etc. However, I was on my way to a doctor's appointment when I was doing this and I ended up having to wait a little over an hour in the waiting room. I wasn't in a hurry, and just enjoying my quiet time, but I noticed that I felt like I'd had too much coffee. (I remember taking stock of what I'd had to drink that day.) When I got into the doctor's office, my blood pressure was 140 over something and it's almost always 120/80 or lower. I wonder....

[Billy]

A ninjutsu instructor once told me that on his last trip to japan for a grading
a high level guru type put on a demonstration of weather manipulation for himself and a few other guys. Apparently he came out and sat in the lotus position for a while and lo and behold clouds started to slowly roll in from all directions and after about half an hour it started to rain. After reading about the work of wilhelm reich and his cloud busting gear I think this stuff is more than just possible its highly probable.

[Betrade]

I was skeptical, but just did 5 out of 5. I told my son to watch, and he was amazed to say the least.

It was crazy, but it definitely worked.

Now, the question is, what's the point, and what else can we make disappear that would actually be beneficial??

Erasing a cumulus cloud from the sky is a neat trick, but i don't see any benefit, unless it can be used as practice for something bigger and better, like erasing debts, annoying individuals, or a boss who won't stop breathing down my neck. Even better, if we can create a cloud, how about a wallet full of cold hard cash, right out of thin air?? After all, money is just another symbol of energy, or so I've been told.

Any thoughts??

[InJoy]

Originally Posted by Betrade

Now, the question is, what's the point, and what else can we make disappear that would actually be beneficial??

My husband and I had this very conversation the night after I first tried this. (He saw and verified that it happened, but did not try it himself.) He felt there was little or no significance to this, and I felt the opposite. I don't understand his point well enough (or at all) to post it here, so I'll give you my POV.

This is (for me) the first, undeniable, repeatable proof that I can manifest something physical with nothing more than the power of my own mind. IMO, that's huge.

All this time, I have gone on almost pure faith that LoA works and that phenomena outside the "norm" really do exist. I had tiny bits of evidence that I couldn't prove: synchronicities, manifested intentions, etc. But I could always hear that little voice in my head that said, "It's a coincidence, you fool!"

Now I have proof that even my pesky little ego voice can't debate. Anytime I feel doubt, all I have to do is go outside for five minutes and remind myself this is real.

From this point on, I am operating from fact as opposed to faith. I know that I can create physical manifestations of my intentions through thought alone. I believe that knowing is a powerful place from which to operate.

I think this will have a snowball effect toward further manifestation, especially since doubt is probably one of the bigger barriers to intention manifestation. I will (and do) more readily see synchronicities for what they are, so I will recognize and take opportunities more often. My intentions are less clouded (pardon) by doubts, and so they will manifest more often. And so on.

I'm still learning and experimenting, of course. We're talking babe-in-arms level of experience here. I will say that since our discussion, my husband has tried cloud bursting himself. His excitement level went up noticeably when he realized this was something he could do too.

I'm tickled that another (cloud-bursting) skeptic tried this and succeeded. I'm also curious about your experience. Did you have any physical reactions during or after your cloud bursting? (Such as described in the article above or otherwise?) Did you try it on different sized clouds?

[Betrade]

I started with two small ones, and then three big ones, and it worked, but I felt no different than I did before it started.

The whole process only took about 15 minutes. I'm just wondering if clouds just naturally dissolve in the wind. If they do, there's no point in kidding ourselves.

Oh, and I'm no skeptic about the paranormal, LOA, and other things. I have lots of stories to tell, but this cloud busting thing seems way too easy. Why does water vapor respond so quickly? For that matter, we should be able to make steam disappear after a shower (which it does on it's own by the way).

I don't know. I did it, but I'm not convinced it's anything unusual. I'm going to look at a cloud and try and make it not disappear and see what happens, then report back.

[wolfgang]

I was driving and looked at a cloud and scanned it while thinking about it going away. And it did! I thought, well would you look at that? And those other clouds are still there. Was that just a lucky guess that the cloud was on it's way out anyway? I kept this to myself. It was maybe a truck sized white cotten looking cloud and it went away in 4-5 minutes.

I didn't try again, most other clouds were big and dark and I was driving.

Of coarse that's not terribly useful, but it did put me in a state of - there's a whole lot going on here than we notice most of the time, that we really are more connected to the outside environment than we normally think.

[nosussbeliefs]

Please take up James Randi's 1 million dollar challenge if you truely believe you can move clouds.

[InJoy]

Originally Posted by Betrade

I'm just wondering if clouds just naturally dissolve in the wind. If they do, there's no point in kidding ourselves.

They absolutely do. What was stunning to me was that that first time I did mine, it was calm on the ground and the clouds were barely moving in the sky. I would pick a cloud from a bunch of them near each other, and each time the one that I chose would be the one that broke up and disappeared. The others stayed intact.

Originally Posted by Betrade

I don't know. I did it, but I'm not convinced it's anything unusual. I'm going to look at a cloud and try and make it not disappear and see what happens, then report back.

You may find that to be a loaded test. According to the LoA, if you intend what you don't want, you'll get that thing. About three days ago, feeling (apparently) similarly to you, I decided to pick a little cloud near one I had just disappeared and make it grow. It was harder for me, but it worked. Maybe you could try that.

I wonder if this works on clouds due to psychology? Kind of like Luke in Star Wars thinking that little stones were easy to move, but not his x-wing. So he could move rocks but not the ship due to his own psychological restrictions. Clouds aren't made of much and dispersing water vapors seems relatively easy to my psychological mind. Maybe that's why we can do it so easily?

By the way, Betrade, I noticed that the second time I did it (on another day) I had no physical reaction at all afterward. Maybe the first time I did it and felt all pumped up it was just adrenaline.

Originally Posted by wolfgang

Was that just a lucky guess that the cloud was on it's way out anyway?

It could have been. The only way you'll know is to try it enough times to disprove luck. Three in a row (with all other clouds left in place) pretty much did the trick for me in the "luck" area. Might want to do it when you're not driving though.

The whole thing deserves more study. I'm going to keep doing it and experimenting with different things. Let me know if you guys discover anything new. I'm fascinated.

[MilesTyler]

Originally Posted by nosussbeliefs

Please take up James Randi's 1 million dollar challenge if you truely believe you can move clouds.

Actually, cloud busting is one of the things on the list of what James Randi will not accept as a psychic ability that qualifies for the challenge.

Taken directly from James Randi's 1 Million Dollar Challenge website:

IMPORTANT: Only claims that can be verified by evidence under proper observing conditions will be accepted. Also, JREF will NOT accept claims of the existence of deities or demons/angels, the validity of exorcism, religious claims, cloudbusting, causing the Sun to rise or the stars to move, etc.

[InJoy]

Originally Posted by nosussbeliefs

Please take up James Randi's 1 million dollar challenge if you truely believe you can move clouds.

I just learned that this can be done at all only six days ago. No way am I at a level of expertise to try and prove anything to anyone, let alone a skeptical scientist. Gimme a minute.

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by InJoy

It could have been. The only way you'll know is to try it enough times to disprove luck. Three in a row (with all other clouds left in place) pretty much did the trick for me in the "luck" area. Might want to do it when you're not driving though.

Yeah, driving and putting awareness into a cloud disapearing isn't the best way to drive. I may do this again sometime, but I also don't want to muck with it too much, you know? Like throwing I Ching readings constantly eventually makes the readings meaningless.

I like the feeling I got from one cloud, so far. If it doesn't work next time, it will be a let down. But then again, wouldn't it be fun to see it happen again!??

[InJoy]

Originally Posted by wolfgang

I like the feeling I got from one cloud, so far. If it doesn't work next time, it will be a let down. But then again, wouldn't it be fun to see it happen again!??

I had that exact same feeling. Like if I kept trying, I would find that it only happened "sometimes", therefore disproving the phenomenon. But my desire to learn if it was truly real or not won over my fear of failure and I'm glad for it. It's an amazing feeling when that second and third cloud poofs away just like the first one did.

[JMan]

I posted an experience I had in 'creating weather' a while back but deleted it after weeks with several reads but no response. Guess I should have started small and approachable with experiences with individual clouds? Anyway, on a larger scale, and with an intense visualization session including imagining the inception, the creation behind the creation of a weather pattern, I think I intended one about.

[InJoy]

Originally Posted by JMan

I posted an experience I had in 'creating weather' a while back but deleted it after weeks with several reads but no response. Guess I should have started small and approachable with experiences with individual clouds? Anyway, on a larger scale, and with an intense visualization session including imagining the inception, the creation behind the creation of a weather pattern, I think I intended one about.

Wow! I'd like to hear more about that! What was it that made you believe that you intended it into being (as opposed to it being a natural occurrence)? How long did it take you? Did you get rain?

[Betrade]

This subject reminds me of this guy I saw on TV about a year ago. he lives in India, and he gets paid BIG money to guarantee that it won't rain on special outdoor occasions. Corporations, and even the government hire him when they have something big planned for the outdoors, and can't afford to have a rain shower blow in and ruin it.

This kid looked to be about 25, tops. What he did was make an offering of fruit, bread and some other things to "the Gods", and performs some sort of ritual, and it doesn't rain. His success rate is claimed to be 100%, and apparently he's in high demand all over the country.

It was pretty interesting, he said he just meditates and prays, makes his offering, burns a few candles and some other things, thanks the 'gods", and the rain doesn't come.

[JMan]

Originally Posted by InJoy

Wow! I'd like to hear more about that! What was it that made you believe that you intended it into being (as opposed to it being a natural occurrence)? How long did it take you? Did you get rain?

Not rain, sun. It was about this time of year, several years past, and I had been on a spiritual journey, learning all sorts of things, mostly intuitively. This experience was intuitive too.

It was a Thursday, and I had an event on the waterfront the upcoming weekend. It had been raining a lot and clouds covered the sky. The forecast fortold more of the same continuing through the weekend and into the next week. Something in me said I could change it. So I started meditating. Keep in mind no one had ever explained this to me, it was intuitive, I just kind of thought I could do this and things happened.

As I started my meditation, I was very calm and 'knowing' and I felt connected with life. I was soon in a visualization experience out over the ocean, where I intended the heat of the Sun to increase over the cloud cover and start to burn it off. It's like I was logically working backward in progression from the outcome I desired, to the universal source that would cause this outcome, and then prayed/asked/willed/intended it to be so, and saw it happening. Once I 'knew' it was going to happen, I thanked God and went about my day, kind of forgetting about it.

2 days later, we all experienced the blazing sunset and all the vibrant colors I had visualized earlier that week with a warm wind coming in off the ocean - it was amazing and humbling. I told no one. Later I contemplated the event, and a question entered my mind, 'what did my desire impact overall?' - I mean, sure you may want something, but in a system as interconnected as the weather, what are you inadvertently causing to happen somewhere else, to someone or something's possible demise. Since then, I've left it in God's hands. I know it's real, but I don't need to do it. There may be unintended consequences I will have to answer for once I'm off this planet.

[Lychee]

I think I dissolved a tiny cloud today, but when I tried a larger one it didn't work. Interesting nonetheless.

[InJoy]

@ Betrade ~

That would be one sweet occupation, wouldn't it!

Originally Posted by JMan

Later I contemplated the event, and a question entered my mind, 'what did my desire impact overall?' - I mean, sure you may want something, but in a system as interconnected as the weather, what are you inadvertently causing to happen somewhere else, to someone or something's possible demise. Since then, I've left it in God's hands. I know it's real, but I don't need to do it. There may be unintended consequences I will have to answer for once I'm off this planet.

Interesting thought, JMan. It hadn't occurred to me that way.

I suppose, though, that any creation that a person manifests has the potential to change the world. Look at the parents of Ghandi. Or Hitler. Who's responsibility were the consequences of those births? (Jeesh, talk about a brain-imploding question...)

Another thought. Maybe controlling the weather is just as natural as having a child, but we've just forgotten it.

Anyway, fantastic story. Thank you for sharing it.

Originally Posted by Lychee

I think I dissolved a tiny cloud today, but when I tried a larger one it didn't work. Interesting nonetheless.

Lychee, when I tried a larger cloud, it was still relatively small. I'd say only about five times as large as the small (cotton ball) clouds I'd done earlier. It helped me to visualize it breaking apart on the edges rather than the center. I hope you try again.

[CFPurpose]

Hmmmmm. I've never heard of such a thing. Right now the sky is covered in multitudes of clouds and we've been predicted hard rain for the next 5 days. I shall try this little experiment when I can desifer one cloud from the other Or maybe I could just try making the sun come out like JMan.......

Very interesting thread. I've got to try this.

[The Universal Call]

Aight, so I was testing this, because it seemed so exhilirating. So as I was driving home from picking up my kid from school I looked at a cloud. I tilted down the left window and stared at it for a while, like they all say you can do, and wished it to disappear... That's when the truck hit. Fortunately my kid survived but I just got home from hospital.

Right, enough about me and my bad luck, I'll try this tomorrow as well, because I really think it will work!

[InJoy]

Originally Posted by The Universal Call

Aight, so I was testing this, because it seemed so exhilirating. So as I was driving home from picking up my kid from school I looked at a cloud. I tilted down the left window and stared at it for a while, like they all say you can do, and wished it to disappear... That's when the truck hit. Fortunately my kid survived but I just got home from hospital.

Right, enough about me and my bad luck, I'll try this tomorrow as well, because I really think it will work!

I hope you are kidding.

[Ijin Kaion]

like try to do it without driving this time.

as great as it may sound, it still means that you have responsibillity for what you do.

some people like me have the abillity to form new leylines and junction points.
i do it to turn negative ones into positive ones.

others go to certain locations and make a whole system of negative ones.
causing imballance to the leyline system, well think trouble when hearing this.

but same as that cloud busting has it`s downsides.
environmental bad sides.

also that you got in a car accident, wich is bad and i`m glad you both survived by the way.

well i surely won`t need to explain responsibillity to a father, but i hope you learned a valuable lesson and keep it in mind when you do something regarding energy or the like.

so well wishes, and a positive thought to you both as help in healing up.

abayo^_^

[InJoy]

Originally Posted by Ijin Kaion

some people like me have the abillity to form new leylines and junction points.

What do you mean by this?

[Ijin Kaion]

leylines are the line pieces at the surface, or below the surface of the planet.
it is a system of lines connected like our own inner coil system, wich is indeed the coil system of the planet.

these lines have exits wich consist out of crossing lines.
it`s a very big system, and the surface lines and the mid lower lines i can shift and regrow.

some crosspoints are negative and attract a lot of negative energy, so bad for people who live above one or near one.
so i make them positive.

that`s basically what leylines are and do.

abayo^_^

[Lychee]

Originally Posted by The Universal Call

Aight, so I was testing this, because it seemed so exhilirating. So as I was driving home from picking up my kid from school I looked at a cloud. I tilted down the left window and stared at it for a while, like they all say you can do, and wished it to disappear... That's when the truck hit. Fortunately my kid survived but I just got home from hospital.

Right, enough about me and my bad luck, I'll try this tomorrow as well, because I really think it will work!

I hope you are doing better. I'm glad that your child was ok :\

[nosussbeliefs]

Originally Posted by MilesTyler

Actually, cloud busting is one of the things on the list of what James Randi will not accept as a psychic ability that qualifies for the challenge.

Taken directly from James Randi's 1 Million Dollar Challenge website:

Thats because Randi get inundated with applications for his challenge. The fact he puts it in the same category as exorcism, demons and angels should tell you something....