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hirukio514 · 06-14-2011, 03:17 PM

This time it wasnt a projection within a dream it felt completly different.I heard the very high pitch buzzing sound and I kinda rolled over out of my body it felt so weird as if I fell off my bed.I could see my body in my bed and I walked around my neighbourhood.Something very strange and disturbing happened.I heard very loud screams as if it was a hole bunch of people were suffering or demons.I didnt see anything but I could hear it,it was very loud as if it was a crowd.I tought probably I have low energy and they are trying to get to me.I started to feel a heavy presence so I started thinking happy toughts and they just went away.Its been day 4 since I did the Thoth meditation with 24 hours apart.I also listened to binaural beats yesterday but not before I went to sleep.Im pretty sure now that my third eye is opening.I also noticed that when I was to close to my body I was getting pulled back to my body Why?

Nimue · 06-14-2011, 04:14 PM

That sounds awesome!
I guess you were pulled back because of the body-soul link, bodies are made so that they'll keep their souls in. I guess it's stronger when you are close to it.

How did you get past the fear of going "out"? I had a psychic experience where I was nearly called to OBE as a kid, and since then I haven't been able to give it a serious shot...

hirukio514 · 06-14-2011, 05:00 PM

Well I wasnt affraid at all since I already had a near death experience.Since its been a year Ive learned lucid dreaming and ive been trying to project it just didnt work becuz my chakras werent open.It was kinda cool hearing all theses voices at first I was scared but I remember reading if u get scared it gets worst.Im thinking if I where to meet demons I wouldnt be affraid plus I would be able to face one of the biggest fears in humanity.Im actually looking foward to meeting them since I know how to protect myself.I believe this is things the catholic church where affraid of admitting and the reason why Freemasons are regarded as evil.

Nimue · 06-14-2011, 05:30 PM

I see. Interesting...
I thought the freemasons were labeled as evil for political/economical reasons... but yes, when you open your consciousness towards other views of reality you need to watch out for what could be in the unknown. I have needed to protect myself just by being an empath, actually going OBE looks even riskier.

I'd like to ask anyone who knows about that stuff-does being an empath, which makes me dragging too much stuff on me, to raise the dangers of going OBE?

theuprising · 06-14-2011, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by hirukio514

This time it wasnt a projection within a dream it felt completly different.I heard the very high pitch buzzing sound and I kinda rolled over out of my body it felt so weird as if I fell off my bed.I could see my body in my bed and I walked around my neighbourhood.Something very strange and disturbing happened.I heard very loud screams as if it was a hole bunch of people were suffering or demons.I didnt see anything but I could hear it,it was very loud as if it was a crowd.I tought probably I have low energy and they are trying to get to me.I started to feel a heavy presence so I started thinking happy toughts and they just went away.Its been day 4 since I did the Thoth meditation with 24 hours apart.I also listened to binaural beats yesterday but not before I went to sleep.Im pretty sure now that my third eye is opening.I also noticed that when I was to close to my body I was getting pulled back to my body Why?

How did you get out?

I've been trying to get out for a while now from the dream state but I no longer lucid dream, probably because I have a more open world-view and don't always see things from the frame of my mind's "normal".

hirukio514 · 06-14-2011, 07:40 PM

Well I got out by closing my eyes it got me back inside my room and I was just pulled back to my body.

theuprising · 06-14-2011, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by hirukio514

Well I got out by closing my eyes it got me back inside my room and I was just pulled back to my body.

Oh, I meant get out of your body

hirukio514 · 06-14-2011, 08:19 PM

during sleep paralysis after I woke up from a lucid dream I felt my body vibrating and it just happened.I kinda just rolled to the side and I fell out of my body.I heard of the rope technique but couldnt do it.

kenny r · 06-15-2011, 12:35 PM

hirukio514, that's a great story! I'm still working to get all the way out.

Have you read the books of Robert Monroe? Or Robert Bruce already? I think they both suggest moving some distance from your sleeping body because the proximity alone seems to work like a magnet.

You did the right thing being unafraid, thinking happy thoughts. Monroe says being firm with undesirable beings works, commanding them to leave. Both authors say those voices you hear can seem scary but are not an actual threat. Still, Monroe's practice involves creating an energy balloon for protection before going out.

Nimue, I think Erin has written about her experiences with OBEs on her blog, which might help. For example
How do I protect myself and my room when I astral project?

hirukio514 · 06-15-2011, 03:17 PM

Dats cool im gonna check those books out

Yosep · 06-16-2011, 03:26 AM

Good for you..indeed going past the fear is the way to go. I posted something before about how my mouth -feels- like it is opening forever before I project, I didn't get any replies as to how other people experience it. It's funny..I dont just roll out..it's pretty dramatic each time although smooth as well.

I wish you to continue and discover more.

Cheers

Nimue · 06-16-2011, 01:29 PM

Nice, Kenny. Thx

Btw, I were wondering, can one affect the physical world while astral projecting?

Rezzy7 · 06-17-2011, 01:20 AM

Yes.

In one of Monroe's books he described an experiment where he pinched someone while he was out of bod, and the person obviously reacted to it, and later confirmed it had happened. There are probably other accounts of various things that can be done, depending on what you mean by "affect". From what I know it is less common to be able have physical effects, but then, I haven't yet achieved a conscious OBE. You can bet I will try these things when I do!

kenny r · 06-17-2011, 04:02 AM

Same here, Robert Monroe's story is the only one I know of. Sometimes I wish I'd bookmarked different things in Monroe's 3 books so I can find them when people ask!

hirukio514 · 06-17-2011, 03:46 PM

its been 2 days Ive been reading his book its really interesting.I was able to project again except I was only able to take my arms out.Its cool the way it feels.Im gonna keep trying.I dont know why but while im reading the book sometimes I feel a lil pressure on my third eye.

06-14-2011, 03:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
hirukio514 Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 44	Finally Atral Projection This time it wasnt a projection within a dream it felt completly different.I heard the very high pitch buzzing sound and I kinda rolled over out of my body it felt so weird as if I fell off my bed.I could see my body in my bed and I walked around my neighbourhood.Something very strange and disturbing happened.I heard very loud screams as if it was a hole bunch of people were suffering or demons.I didnt see anything but I could hear it,it was very loud as if it was a crowd.I tought probably I have low energy and they are trying to get to me.I started to feel a heavy presence so I started thinking happy toughts and they just went away.Its been day 4 since I did the Thoth meditation with 24 hours apart.I also listened to binaural beats yesterday but not before I went to sleep.Im pretty sure now that my third eye is opening.I also noticed that when I was to close to my body I was getting pulled back to my body Why?

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06-14-2011, 04:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
Nimue Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 939	That sounds awesome! I guess you were pulled back because of the body-soul link, bodies are made so that they'll keep their souls in. I guess it's stronger when you are close to it. How did you get past the fear of going "out"? I had a psychic experience where I was nearly called to OBE as a kid, and since then I haven't been able to give it a serious shot...

06-14-2011, 05:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
hirukio514 Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 44	Well I wasnt affraid at all since I already had a near death experience.Since its been a year Ive learned lucid dreaming and ive been trying to project it just didnt work becuz my chakras werent open.It was kinda cool hearing all theses voices at first I was scared but I remember reading if u get scared it gets worst.Im thinking if I where to meet demons I wouldnt be affraid plus I would be able to face one of the biggest fears in humanity.Im actually looking foward to meeting them since I know how to protect myself.I believe this is things the catholic church where affraid of admitting and the reason why Freemasons are regarded as evil.

06-14-2011, 05:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
Nimue Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 939	I see. Interesting... I thought the freemasons were labeled as evil for political/economical reasons... but yes, when you open your consciousness towards other views of reality you need to watch out for what could be in the unknown. I have needed to protect myself just by being an empath, actually going OBE looks even riskier. I'd like to ask anyone who knows about that stuff-does being an empath, which makes me dragging too much stuff on me, to raise the dangers of going OBE?

06-14-2011, 07:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
hirukio514 Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 44	Well I got out by closing my eyes it got me back inside my room and I was just pulled back to my body.

06-14-2011, 08:19 PM	#8 (permalink)
hirukio514 Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 44	during sleep paralysis after I woke up from a lucid dream I felt my body vibrating and it just happened.I kinda just rolled to the side and I fell out of my body.I heard of the rope technique but couldnt do it.

06-15-2011, 12:35 PM	#9 (permalink)
kenny r Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 408	hirukio514, that's a great story! I'm still working to get all the way out. Have you read the books of Robert Monroe? Or Robert Bruce already? I think they both suggest moving some distance from your sleeping body because the proximity alone seems to work like a magnet. You did the right thing being unafraid, thinking happy thoughts. Monroe says being firm with undesirable beings works, commanding them to leave. Both authors say those voices you hear can seem scary but are not an actual threat. Still, Monroe's practice involves creating an energy balloon for protection before going out. Nimue, I think Erin has written about her experiences with OBEs on her blog, which might help. For example How do I protect myself and my room when I astral project?

06-15-2011, 03:17 PM	#10 (permalink)
hirukio514 Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 44	Dats cool im gonna check those books out

06-16-2011, 03:26 AM	#11 (permalink)
Yosep Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 64	Good for you..indeed going past the fear is the way to go. I posted something before about how my mouth -feels- like it is opening forever before I project, I didn't get any replies as to how other people experience it. It's funny..I dont just roll out..it's pretty dramatic each time although smooth as well. I wish you to continue and discover more. Cheers

06-16-2011, 01:29 PM	#12 (permalink)
Nimue Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 939	Nice, Kenny. Thx Btw, I were wondering, can one affect the physical world while astral projecting?

06-17-2011, 01:20 AM	#13 (permalink)
Rezzy7 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: West Coast USA Posts: 783	Yes. In one of Monroe's books he described an experiment where he pinched someone while he was out of bod, and the person obviously reacted to it, and later confirmed it had happened. There are probably other accounts of various things that can be done, depending on what you mean by "affect". From what I know it is less common to be able have physical effects, but then, I haven't yet achieved a conscious OBE. You can bet I will try these things when I do!

06-17-2011, 04:02 AM	#14 (permalink)
kenny r Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 408	Same here, Robert Monroe's story is the only one I know of. Sometimes I wish I'd bookmarked different things in Monroe's 3 books so I can find them when people ask!

06-17-2011, 03:46 PM	#15 (permalink)
hirukio514 Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 44	its been 2 days Ive been reading his book its really interesting.I was able to project again except I was only able to take my arms out.Its cool the way it feels.Im gonna keep trying.I dont know why but while im reading the book sometimes I feel a lil pressure on my third eye.

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