How Does Astral World Look?

[Jensen]

I've thinking about astral projection lately and just now I realize I have no idea how its gonna look everything when i actually have and an astral projection...

How Does Astral World Look? Its like a fuzzy copy of the normal world, totally different or exactly the same that the usual world?
And well... what its the "astral world"? A different plane maybe?

[autumn]

This is a great link!! It's long, like over 70 pages worth of reading on the subject & very thorough.

Treatise on Astral Projection - Part 1 - Robert Bruce

[CFPurpose]

Originally Posted by Jensen

How Does Astral World Look? Its like a fuzzy copy of the normal world, totally different or exactly the same that the usual world?
And well... what its the "astral world"? A different plane maybe?

I have never astral projected. I've started to spontaneously but did not complete it. I have however had multitudes of OBE but I believe the experiences can be much different.

I choose to refrain from trying to research what to expect as I don't want to put anything into my mind. I'd rather experience everything first hand and observe through my own eyes without any expectations. I’m always afraid that I will create something that actually does not exist; it would be possibly a figment of my own imagination and I’d rather not go there. (I feel this way about everything, even meditation. I wait to see what comes so I am certain I did not create the visions or experiences I have.)

[Steve Pavlina]

It depends on the astral realm. When I go to the one that most closely resembles the physical world, I can see the same structures, like my bedroom, but they look more wispy and less solid, as if everything is slightly alive with energy. It's like nothing I've ever seen with my physical eyes, not even in a movie.

It's more like I sense objects rather than see them. I can perceive what's behind me as well as what's in front of me. It's hard to separate the visuals from my other sense perceptions, since it seems like it's all coming through the same channel. I can't see through walls, but I can feel their presence and walk through them if I want. Sliding through a wall doesn't feel very pleasant though -- it's like moving through a vat of pudding that slides between your cells.

AP is a very different experience than having a dream, even a lucid one.

[autumn]

I read some stuff in this book today that reminded me of your question (I also have not APed yet, but every book I have picked up on it says that your astral experience for the most part is basically what you, on all your levels, make it to be).

These are just a very few, surface type quotes from the book Astral Projection And The Nature Of Reality by John Magnus, which I highly recomend, if you do want to read more about it indepth, but if somewhat similar to what CFPurpose is saying, you don't want too much of an effect on your expectations.

"It is very likely that any preconceived notion you have of what the astral is will limit your adventures. Even the smallest expectations will affect your astral experiences. It is therefore important that you have a completely open mind about how the astral works. You must untie all ideas you have about what the astral is. Open your mind to other possibilities. Do not accept any limits."

"The astral is a place where your enviroment is created by your mind. This is true also for the physical dimension, but it is easier to see in the astral, because effects are more immediate."

Another book I read, that I highly recomend, was called Anyone Can See The Light. A really wonderful book! I read some scary stuff on Erin's blog & on other forums about people's astral experiences that, even though I also immediately understood that I could raise my vibrations & expectations to allow more wonderful anventures then these other people were experiencing/ed, these stories were still causing me a lot of fear. And even the fact that my guides are telling me & showing me very specific & beautiful things about why they want me to learn this & what I do when I project (we project anyway all the time, but my guides just want me to learn to do it consciously), I was having a hard time working through the fear. Anyway this particular book is so positive & so wonderful & connected me so strongly to...gosh I can't even explain the great emotions really, but I feel SOOO incredibly positive about projecting now!

[CFPurpose]

Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina

When I go to the one that most closely resembles the physical world, I can see the same structures, like my bedroom, but they look more wispy and less solid, as if everything is slightly alive with energy. It's like nothing I've ever seen with my physical eyes, not even in a movie.

It's more like I sense objects rather than see them. I can perceive what's behind me as well as what's in front of me. It's hard to separate the visuals from my other sense perceptions, since it seems like it's all coming through the same channel. I can't see through walls, but I can feel their presence and walk through them if I want. Sliding through a wall doesn't feel very pleasant though -- it's like moving through a vat of pudding that slides between your cells.

AP is a very different experience than having a dream, even a lucid one.

That’s funny. This is how I would describe my OBE's except I never tried walking through the walls.

You mentioned your experience depending on the realm you are in. I have a hard time understanding how to exit the realm above. This obviously seems the most natural. I would assume that when one Astral Projected, they could then choose to travel elsewhere other than that of their home or neighborhood?

I actually visited a friend’s house once but I have no recollection as to how I got there and mind you this was an OBE and not an AP that I was consciously trying to succeed at.

[Jensen]

thanks for the clarification. I see now, I was confuse cause I thought It should look this or that exactly way but I guess it may change.

[negate7o4]

for a month i thought i could obe. It almost always started with me standing next to my bed. And when i moved everything seemed like it was going on normally but no one could see me. I Asked my roommate to move a certain
object in my room while i was sleeping and yes i got it wrong where
he moved the object. I did this three times and everytime i could not see where he put the item. It sometimes pop up in differant random places inmy room but still it wassent the place where he put it. so it turned out a was just having
vivid lucid dreams that i could control from the start

[Blueskied]

Originally Posted by negate7o4

I Asked my roommate to move a certain
object in my room while i was sleeping and yes i got it wrong where
he moved the object.

Sounds like a good experiment.
I wonder if anyone who APs can do this or read that sheet with a word on the cupboard.
I suspect: No! (cause i think it all happens in the head of a person - never had an OOBE though).
And what's the explanation of AP-ing persons (who believe they are actually floating around in the room) why they can't read the sheet or see where the item was placed?

[negate7o4]

Yeah i think your right it is all in the head but differant people will have differant results. or they will claim they had differant results, but will we really ever know

[Blueskied]

You mean some people claim to be able to read the sheet?
This should not be too hard to validate/disprove in experiments,right?

[negate7o4]

no it wouldnt be hard to validate in experiment. But will we get someone who would take part in this or will they all be running scared? and i think to make the experiment more sound we should make the sheet of paper 'n program that randomly generates a name to make sure that the person who takes part in the experiment can get know subliminal messages.

[CFPurpose]

Originally Posted by Blueskied

Sounds like a good experiment.
I wonder if anyone who APs can do this or read that sheet with a word on the cupboard.
I suspect: No! (cause i think it all happens in the head of a person - never had an OOBE though).
And what's the explanation of AP-ing persons (who believe they are actually floating around in the room) why they can't read the sheet or see where the item was placed?

This sounds like a very good experiment. If I could consciously make myself fully AP right now, I'd surely try it but I tend to pull myself back inside before ever actually exiting my body. I will say however that when I had OBE's constantly as a child; I liked to wonder around the neighborhood. I must have been a nosy kid. I'd walk through back yards and even enter some houses. I'll never forget when the neighborhood had a community yard sale and we walked the block. A couple houses we went to, I knew exactly what the back yard looked like and received confirmation. My father and I also went into one house at a later date that I had "toured" and everything was laid just as I had remembered. I could have found my way through there house with simple ease. For this reason alone, I know that OBE is very real and not just a figment of our imaginations.

[Steve Pavlina]

I'd never assume that when you AP into a realm that looks like the physical world that it really is the physical world. In my experience that isn't true at all. I think our expectations make it look similar, but other than that I don't think there's much of a correlation.

The notion of space works rather differently in the astral realms than it does in the physical world. You learn to visit astral places by focusing on their energetic signature rather than by physical locomotion.

[Bruce Achterberg]

Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina

The notion of space works rather differently in the astral realms than it does in the physical world. You learn to visit astral places by focusing on their energetic signature rather than by physical locomotion.

Sounds LoA-like to me. We kind of do the same thing in the physical world (focus on an intention, get inspired, move towards energetic signature by taking action). Although I do know what you mean. The actual "action" step is somewhat much more automatic in the astral realms.

[MilesTyler]

Hello everyone, I am currently working on a book that deals with this very topic.

The problem with someone telling someone else what the astral looks like is the fact that no two people perceive it in the exact same way. The same person can astral project multiple times and have a completely different experience and encounter a totally new environment every time.

Why is this?

I believe it boils down to variations in our psyche. Our emotional and mental state can create this effect of changing the way we perceive our environment during astral projection.

Physicists are beginning to prove that direct observation influences reality on some level. It is my belief that, when we astral project, we are actually attuning our conscious minds to a different dimension or dimensions. These are the energy dimensions that bind and support our "physical reality".

In the astral realm, our perceptions have a direct and obvious effect upon our surrounding environment. When we feel a certain way or believe a certain thing this affects how we perceive and manipulate the flow of energy that surrounds us.

Think of it as the Law of Attraction on steroids.

In other words the Law of Attraction applies more directly to the higher dimensions of the energy substructure of the universe. As you tune your conscious mind to the lighter vibrational levels of the astral this effect becomes even more pronounced.

As far as observing things within the physical universe from the perspective of these higher energy planes?

It is my experience that when you are projecting your conscious mind into the denser vibrational levels, that is the levels that are of a vibrational phase that is only slightly lighter than the physical plane, you can make direct observations of physical reality. I have done this on many occasions and later verified my observations. This was not only observations of inanimate environments but also observations of events involving people in the real-time physical world.

On a side note I also discovered that the ability to attune your perception to these energy dimensions can carry over into the physical and this manifests as what we refer to as psychic ability. A good example of this carryover effect is remote viewing.