Accidental astral projection - scared the **** outta me

[Fred Tracy]

Okay, so I've had some unusual things happen lately, and I think they may be related.

I recently learned to lucid dream and did so for the first time.

Today, I was taking a 3 hour nap, and I remember before sleep trying to stay conscious so I could lucid dream again.

Instead, I had what seems to be an accidental astral projection experience. Check out that article I just linked if you have time and let me know if that's what it is..

Very intense cold feeling around the chest region, awareness of where you're sleeping while eyes still being closed. Very loud ringing in ears.

It was very uncomfortable, and I didn't want to astral project this time. I basically had back-to-back astral projection "launch offs" with the cold + ringing sensations and I couldn't stop.

I'm not sure it was bad, but I'd like to learn more about it and control it. I'd also like to learn how to shut it off if I end up having to do any stupid ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ like fight demons or have fearful, negative experiences. No thanks.

In possibly unrelated news, I have a strange small rash where my third eye is, and have had it for a couple days, and I'm more able to summon a lot of energy, enough to where my vision distorts? I did it while trying to "heal" my mom the other day, not that I know what I'm doing.. is this something with kundalini energy? I still have this energy when I think about it. It's something close to being filled with adrenaline out of fear, but not really.. because right now I still feel the same energy, but there's no stimulus to cause fear, and it just feels kind of strange.

I'm still pretty shaken because it just happened. I appreciate all insights very, very much. Thank you.

[supertom]

I had a astral projection out of the blue and its very scary. It was a forced experience by a entity, its was quite similar to a UFO abduction which i now believe that all UFO abductions are astral projections. I actually remember researching alien abductions and found the entity.

[Fred Tracy]

That's so wild, man. What happened?! Was is good or bad?

This time I felt an "entity" try to pull me out of my body.

I'm sort of curious as to why I felt so much fear, though. What can the entity do to me? Torture me? Kill me? Bah, whatever. It seems odd for an spirit-thing in the astral realm to want to do evil.. what a waste of time.

Who knows, though.

[supertom]

Originally Posted by Fred Tracy

That's so wild, man. What happened?! Was is good or bad?

This time I felt an "entity" try to pull me out of my body.

I'm sort of curious as to why I felt so much fear, though. What can the entity do to me? Torture me? Kill me? Bah, whatever. It seems odd for an spirit-thing in the astral realm to want to do evil.. what a waste of time.

Who knows, though.

My experience was quite bad, next thing i knew i was in some kind of psychedelic void, I couldn't move and the feeling i got was that i was being violated and the entity was there.

[Anasthasiya]

Yes, such astral projections can be scary. I remember some of mine. From alien visits, UFO's, to ending up in a parallel world, etc.. I remember the two that were quite scary... although I am pretty aware of what is happening and so am not scared.

Maybe, if you are quite new in astral dreaming as you seem, you could try and find some book. I know that Bardons book Astral plane is a good one to train astral projecting and such, and Castaneda wrote a book about the Art of dreaming or something similar, he says it pretty well. there are also good techniques about lucid dreaming.

I do these things for my whole life, but now that I actually know what I am doing, as my friends helped me realize, I also know how to defend.

The thing is that astral plane is like some kind of parallel reality. It has good and bad beings. It is about learning, like it is on earth or anywhere. In astral world there is lower astral world where are beings that are not spiritually developed and they live by eating your energy... so they haunt you, scare you... not a waste of time, they learn that way.
Then you have middle astral world that is similar to earth and you have higher astral world, where there are ascended masters, creators, angels and these beings full of love. Where you end up in astral plane depends on how spiritually developed you are. If you believe in reincarnation then it means that people who are spiritually developed, always end up in middle or higher astral worlds, and those who did bad things, etc, end up in a lower one. But with traveling it means that if you are kind, spiritual or just 'normal' you should also end in middle or the higher one. No lower level. When people are full of fear, or they use drugs, addictions, lie, steal, or if they are on a heavy antipsychotic medications, for them it is harder not to end in a lower one. But no need to be scared.

What you have to be aware of when you get there (try to stay conscious as long as you can), is that you can make bad beings go away.
If some guide or something shows and says he is a good being, you should check him if he is real. The easiest way for this is to ask him the information that only you and your true guide would know. If he doesn't know immediately and starts to guess or something, make him go away.

You can make beings go away on many ways, the easiest one would be 'I am not scared of you, I don't need you! Get away!'. Because when they sense your fear, they are eager to eat your energy. So that makes you scared even more, or even exhausted. There are many ways... you can show them you're not scared, you can say them to get away, you can say some mantra such as Gayatri, and it makes them dissapear really fast, or you can do some positive thing, send light and love or something, and dark beings escape. Dark beings are sensitive to white light. It like kills them, it makes them feel really bad, so they go away.

Be aware that you don't end in some trap. This is when you're lucid dreaming, you can end in a tunnel, or locked somewhere, or they haunt you, try to brake you or anything... these are traps and when they appear, do not go in, if these beings try to attack you and you sense anything bad, use some technique like said previously or some which you may know, and get away as fast as you can.

Anyway, astral projections can also be dangerous in a sense that you should never go to far away from your body because you could get lost... then it is very dagerous, because you could loose your connection with your body. So if you stick to your body, for example with some tie, it is good. Just try not to go too far away from the body. Then it is safe.
Also, if you don't want to leave you body, make a strong intent that you want to stay in your body and it should work. Also, if you wish to end an astral projection, simply return into your body through some string or tie leadind you to your body, or through hearth or any grounding technique, also you can make a strong intent to end it and return to your body and you should.

And yes, the best thing when you are going to travel is to first shield yourself. Maybe use some of your guides, or shield yourself by energy, merkabah, etc... there are many techniques which can be used.

I just highlighted some of the dangers that can happen. So these experiences do not have to be negative. I had many more positive ones, and from when I learned how to make bad beings go away, there are yet more positive ones. I usually research some hidden things, secrets, etc.... it is interesting, but at least at the beginning do not try to do this.

This with the energy and the third eye, some times it just happens that your channel opens up or you just get the energy. It can be for different reasons.
I don't think it is necessarily kundalini, because kundalini is much stronger thing than just this, but could be also, why not. Do you feel anything in your back? Do you notice any other things related to the energy experience than what you wrote?

I remembered that once in a dream I became full of some white light and I saw my own body all white inside. When I woke up, the feeling was like after some kind of attunement. And then I had the energy and can still make it come with thoughts. You could have or some kind of attunement, or some kind of empowerment for some time. If it stays for more time, then be glad, you got an energy attunement. Some times it happens.

Once when we did some kind of transmisy meditation with some friends, we got some attunement at the end by Earth like a gift for healing her. Often you can get an attunement to help you grow more or for a gift for some exchange or something... so for me it is not weird.

Hope I made a point.

Love and Light

[Joebenz]

Almost all of the astral travelers says that you can go as far as you want without loosing the connectin to your body. But yes you can get lost in space. But if you're freaked out anywhere in the universe, you think of your body and poof! you're back.
For exemple Robert Bruce said that one time he wanted to see if there was a limit to the universe, so he got out of body, went to space and traveled far far away without stopping. He could see the galaxies passing by him like street lamps. and it would never end.

[supertom]

Originally Posted by Joebenz

Almost all of the astral travelers says that you can go as far as you want without loosing the connectin to your body. But yes you can get lost in space. But if you're freaked out anywhere in the universe, you think of your body and poof! you're back.
For exemple Robert Bruce said that one time he wanted to see if there was a limit to the universe, so he got out of body, went to space and traveled far far away without stopping. He could see the galaxies passing by him like street lamps. and it would never end.

The song drops of Jupiter always remind me of astral projection.

[KaleidoskopicVision]

Sometimes your guides will pull you out of your body. I have had this happen. Two shadow beings which I've seen numerous times before and after this appeared by my bedside, grabbed my feet and pulled me out of my body like I was a tissue being pulled out of a tissue box. Then they let go of me and I just floated onto my bedroom floor, on my feet. The beings were gone and I realized with great excitement "whoa, I'm astrally projecting!" and I got a bit carried away, my biggest regret is that I didn't try to find out who those 2 shadow beings were (I still don't know! I get a very 'parental' vibe from them however). Anyway I jumped out of my window, flew right through the glass like it was a hologram but I got tangled up in the curtain (one thing I notice about the astral is that certain things are basically holographic in the astral while others which have less physical presence actually have more or the same astral presence, hence me being able to go right through the window but being tangled in the curtains which were very light, I often wonder if anyone else had been in that room if they would've seen the curtains move a bit).

I won't share the rest of this experience as it's not really relevant.

[KaleidoskopicVision]

Originally Posted by Anasthasiya

Yes, such astral projections can be scary. I remember some of mine. From alien visits, UFO's, to ending up in a parallel world, etc.. I remember the two that were quite scary... although I am pretty aware of what is happening and so am not scared.

Maybe, if you are quite new in astral dreaming as you seem, you could try and find some book. I know that Bardons book Astral plane is a good one to train astral projecting and such, and Castaneda wrote a book about the Art of dreaming or something similar, he says it pretty well. there are also good techniques about lucid dreaming.

I do these things for my whole life, but now that I actually know what I am doing, as my friends helped me realize, I also know how to defend.

The thing is that astral plane is like some kind of parallel reality. It has good and bad beings. It is about learning, like it is on earth or anywhere. In astral world there is lower astral world where are beings that are not spiritually developed and they live by eating your energy... so they haunt you, scare you... not a waste of time, they learn that way.
Then you have middle astral world that is similar to earth and you have higher astral world, where there are ascended masters, creators, angels and these beings full of love. Where you end up in astral plane depends on how spiritually developed you are. If you believe in reincarnation then it means that people who are spiritually developed, always end up in middle or higher astral worlds, and those who did bad things, etc, end up in a lower one. But with traveling it means that if you are kind, spiritual or just 'normal' you should also end in middle or the higher one. No lower level. When people are full of fear, or they use drugs, addictions, lie, steal, or if they are on a heavy antipsychotic medications, for them it is harder not to end in a lower one. But no need to be scared.

What you have to be aware of when you get there (try to stay conscious as long as you can), is that you can make bad beings go away.
If some guide or something shows and says he is a good being, you should check him if he is real. The easiest way for this is to ask him the information that only you and your true guide would know. If he doesn't know immediately and starts to guess or something, make him go away.

You can make beings go away on many ways, the easiest one would be 'I am not scared of you, I don't need you! Get away!'. Because when they sense your fear, they are eager to eat your energy. So that makes you scared even more, or even exhausted. There are many ways... you can show them you're not scared, you can say them to get away, you can say some mantra such as Gayatri, and it makes them dissapear really fast, or you can do some positive thing, send light and love or something, and dark beings escape. Dark beings are sensitive to white light. It like kills them, it makes them feel really bad, so they go away.

Be aware that you don't end in some trap. This is when you're lucid dreaming, you can end in a tunnel, or locked somewhere, or they haunt you, try to brake you or anything... these are traps and when they appear, do not go in, if these beings try to attack you and you sense anything bad, use some technique like said previously or some which you may know, and get away as fast as you can.

Anyway, astral projections can also be dangerous in a sense that you should never go to far away from your body because you could get lost... then it is very dagerous, because you could loose your connection with your body. So if you stick to your body, for example with some tie, it is good. Just try not to go too far away from the body. Then it is safe.
Also, if you don't want to leave you body, make a strong intent that you want to stay in your body and it should work. Also, if you wish to end an astral projection, simply return into your body through some string or tie leadind you to your body, or through hearth or any grounding technique, also you can make a strong intent to end it and return to your body and you should.

And yes, the best thing when you are going to travel is to first shield yourself. Maybe use some of your guides, or shield yourself by energy, merkabah, etc... there are many techniques which can be used.

I just highlighted some of the dangers that can happen. So these experiences do not have to be negative. I had many more positive ones, and from when I learned how to make bad beings go away, there are yet more positive ones. I usually research some hidden things, secrets, etc.... it is interesting, but at least at the beginning do not try to do this.

This with the energy and the third eye, some times it just happens that your channel opens up or you just get the energy. It can be for different reasons.
I don't think it is necessarily kundalini, because kundalini is much stronger thing than just this, but could be also, why not. Do you feel anything in your back? Do you notice any other things related to the energy experience than what you wrote?

I remembered that once in a dream I became full of some white light and I saw my own body all white inside. When I woke up, the feeling was like after some kind of attunement. And then I had the energy and can still make it come with thoughts. You could have or some kind of attunement, or some kind of empowerment for some time. If it stays for more time, then be glad, you got an energy attunement. Some times it happens.

Once when we did some kind of transmisy meditation with some friends, we got some attunement at the end by Earth like a gift for healing her. Often you can get an attunement to help you grow more or for a gift for some exchange or something... so for me it is not weird.

Hope I made a point.

Love and Light

There will never be a situation where you get lost in the Astral. It simply doesn't happen. As long as your body is alive in the physical world you'll be able to come back to it. If for some reason your physical body dies while astral projecting then yes you will not wake up. I am not sure what would happen in this situation but perhaps a guide would appear to tell you what happened or you would suddenly be pulled back to your body to see that it has died, then you would be pulled through the bardos of after death.

[Midnite]

Originally Posted by KaleidoskopicVision

There will never be a situation where you get lost in the Astral. It simply doesn't happen. As long as your body is alive in the physical world you'll be able to come back to it. If for some reason your physical body dies while astral projecting then yes you will not wake up. I am not sure what would happen in this situation but perhaps a guide would appear to tell you what happened or you would suddenly be pulled back to your body to see that it has died, then you would be pulled through the bardos of after death.

Something which I would like to know is that if our bodies were to be moved to an undisclosed location without us noticing, while we were in astral for a very long period of time, and then we came back to our bedroom to find nothing in our beds and start freaking out because we can't remember what we look like; what happens then?

lol

[KaleidoskopicVision]

Originally Posted by Midnite

Something which I would like to know is that if our bodies were to be moved to an undisclosed location without us noticing, while we were in astral for a very long period of time, and then we came back to our bedroom to find nothing in our beds and start freaking out because we can't remember what we look like; what happens then?

lol

When you come back to your body, you don't have to travel back to your bedroom. There is a very very subtle awareness of your body when you are astral projecting and being moved would pull you back to your body unless it was done very smoothly without your body being disturbed from sleep. In that case regardless, when you wanted to end the experience you merely think of waking up in your body and you are instantaneously pulled out of the astral.

Sometimes this won't happen though. I've had projections where when I went to wake up, I thought I was awake and sat up in bed, got out of bed and walked to the door and realized I was still in the astral when I walked through the door. Soon as that happened I woke up for real.

Waking up from the astral is not much different than waking up from a lucid dream.

[Fred Tracy]

Originally Posted by Anasthasiya

Awesome post..

Hey there, thanks for writing all of that out for me.

Hmm, wow. What you're describing sounds like a video game. If I had more energy or time I might be willing to explore it, but right now, I don't want to. Plus, the whole evil spirits sucking my energy thing sounds crummy.

I actually suspect that I won't have too much trouble with them if I can stay conscious, because I'm not really scared that easily. I'm also meditating a lot, so maybe I'm spiritually developed enough to not attract those guys in the first place?

Do these beings feed off of anger? I can't see myself shying away from them, but I'd get pissed off if they kept messing with me. Will smashing them do any good? I suppose rage is a pretty negative emotion. Maybe I should just try to be at peace more.

This just all sounds so weird because I have no paradigm for it, yet I experienced it. I guess souls are real, huh? I don't think it's quite hit me how life changing this experience was.

But the energy stuff, yeah, it's in my back. It comes whenever I do intention manifestation a lot, and like I said, it was INTENSE when I was trying to heal my mom. It shoots up my back, and it makes me shiver. I always thought it was endorphins or something. What on earth is this energy for?

Originally Posted by Joebenz

Almost all of the astral travelers says that you can go as far as you want without loosing the connectin to your body. But yes you can get lost in space. But if you're freaked out anywhere in the universe, you think of your body and poof! you're back.
For exemple Robert Bruce said that one time he wanted to see if there was a limit to the universe, so he got out of body, went to space and traveled far far away without stopping. He could see the galaxies passing by him like street lamps. and it would never end.

God, that sounds so cool.

If this stuff is actually true, why isn't it well-known? This should be front page news. Maybe I'll explore the universe one day, but getting out of bed in astral-land will probably have to come first. Walk before ya run and all, lol.

[Fred Tracy]

Originally Posted by KaleidoskopicVision

When you come back to your body, you don't have to travel back to your bedroom. There is a very very subtle awareness of your body when you are astral projecting and being moved would pull you back to your body unless it was done very smoothly without your body being disturbed from sleep. In that case regardless, when you wanted to end the experience you merely think of waking up in your body and you are instantaneously pulled out of the astral.

Sometimes this won't happen though. I've had projections where when I went to wake up, I thought I was awake and sat up in bed, got out of bed and walked to the door and realized I was still in the astral when I walked through the door. Soon as that happened I woke up for real.

Waking up from the astral is not much different than waking up from a lucid dream.

I had a hell of a time waking up from this experience. I had like 10 back-to-back astral awakenings, and something was trying to pull me out of my body, or rather, I was trying, and it was helping me?

But I just made noise as loud as I could and my dad finally heard and woke me up.

[bluestar]

You never get out of touch totally with your body. It's like a law, or an instinct or something, that you get drawn back to your body in the end, no matter what things happen on the Astral.

It is a bit scary to go out of body, certainly for the first time. Remember it's unusual, and our fight/flight mechanisms are all geared up for unusual and dramatic happenings. We have lived all our lives in the solid 3 dimensional state, so something like the Astral can be scary at first.

In my experience occasionally things happened that I didn't like or were oppressive. I just "flew away" from them and scuttled back into my body! I didn't hang around long enough to get seriously bothered by them.

[Louis Savalli]

Hi Fred - I actually read this post on your blog first. And it scares the **** out of me too, actually. And I haven't recently had any experiences similar to what you describe. Nothing I've done energetically has ever been so scary - it's all been healing-oriented and consciousness-oriented.

But I will say this - perhaps examine your intentions? Most likely unconscious ones? You are intending to lucid dream, right? Do you have some kind of fears, resistance, or tension when you set this intention? If you're feeling a tension of some kind, or a fear, this could point to an unconcious negative thought that's creating what you experience.

Just an idea! Something to examine.

[Fred Tracy]

Originally Posted by Louis Savalli

Hi Fred - I actually read this post on your blog first. And it scares the **** out of me too, actually. And I haven't recently had any experiences similar to what you describe. Nothing I've done energetically has ever been so scary - it's all been healing-oriented and consciousness-oriented.

But I will say this - perhaps examine your intentions? Most likely unconscious ones? You are intending to lucid dream, right? Do you have some kind of fears, resistance, or tension when you set this intention? If you're feeling a tension of some kind, or a fear, this could point to an unconcious negative thought that's creating what you experience.

Just an idea! Something to examine.

It scared the **** out of you, too? lol! It's freaky, man.

That blog post was about an earlier experience that wasn't quite so.. intense. This one is different in that it KEPT HAPPENING! Lol. Over and over, and it seemed like something wanted to pull me out of my body.

But in hindsight now, looking at it more rationally, I'm not sure it was a negative energy experience. Sure, it was scary, but I don't distinctly remember there being any negative energy in the room, it was just the otherwordliness of the situation creating fear in me.

I do wonder if I need to get in a really high vibrational state before I try such things in the astral realm.. I don't want to attract any bad stuff.

@bluestar You can just run away to get rid of it? I will try that..

I haven't had any astral experiences since then, but that's probably because I'm closed off to it right now. I wouldn't mind doing some more lucid dreaming, but that's it right now. I'm just too busy to mess with this stuff.

Does anyone know if it's possible to still astral project when you set an intention not to? It seems odd for something like that to happen.

[KaleidoskopicVision]

Hey here's my astral projection technique for you people who read this and are interested in learning to do it on your own.

Have you ever rocked back and forth in a hammock? Well, this is probably one of the best techniques to use since you're laying down intending to sleep or nap in both scenarios. The only thing is that a bed doesn't rock back and forth.

Imagine that you are rocking back and forth though, recreate the feeling of rocking back and forth in your body. Focus entirely on imagining that feeling of rocking back and forth. If your eyes are closed and there are no loud noises to interrupt your frame of mind, eventually you may start floating and feel a vibrating, humming feeling.

It is helpful to first enter a light trance before doing the hammock rocking visualization, as this helps loosen your conscious awareness of your physical body which is necessary for accessing the astral body independently.

[Fred Tracy]

Originally Posted by KaleidoskopicVision

Hey here's my astral projection technique for you people who read this and are interested in learning to do it on your own.

Have you ever rocked back and forth in a hammock? Well, this is probably one of the best techniques to use since you're laying down intending to sleep or nap in both scenarios. The only thing is that a bed doesn't rock back and forth.

Imagine that you are rocking back and forth though, recreate the feeling of rocking back and forth in your body. Focus entirely on imagining that feeling of rocking back and forth. If your eyes are closed and there are no loud noises to interrupt your frame of mind, eventually you may start floating and feel a vibrating, humming feeling.

It is helpful to first enter a light trance before doing the hammock rocking visualization, as this helps loosen your conscious awareness of your physical body which is necessary for accessing the astral body independently.

So in essence you're identifying with your consciousness rather than body, and the rocking motion helps your spirit escape a bit? Neat idea.. if I decide to try this stuff again, which I probably will, I'll give this one a shot.

[theuprising]

Originally Posted by Anasthasiya

Yes, such astral projections can be scary. I remember some of mine. From alien visits, UFO's, to ending up in a parallel world, etc.. I remember the two that were quite scary... although I am pretty aware of what is happening and so am not scared.

Maybe, if you are quite new in astral dreaming as you seem, you could try and find some book. I know that Bardons book Astral plane is a good one to train astral projecting and such, and Castaneda wrote a book about the Art of dreaming or something similar, he says it pretty well. there are also good techniques about lucid dreaming.

I do these things for my whole life, but now that I actually know what I am doing, as my friends helped me realize, I also know how to defend.

The thing is that astral plane is like some kind of parallel reality. It has good and bad beings. It is about learning, like it is on earth or anywhere. In astral world there is lower astral world where are beings that are not spiritually developed and they live by eating your energy... so they haunt you, scare you... not a waste of time, they learn that way.
Then you have middle astral world that is similar to earth and you have higher astral world, where there are ascended masters, creators, angels and these beings full of love. Where you end up in astral plane depends on how spiritually developed you are. If you believe in reincarnation then it means that people who are spiritually developed, always end up in middle or higher astral worlds, and those who did bad things, etc, end up in a lower one. But with traveling it means that if you are kind, spiritual or just 'normal' you should also end in middle or the higher one. No lower level. When people are full of fear, or they use drugs, addictions, lie, steal, or if they are on a heavy antipsychotic medications, for them it is harder not to end in a lower one. But no need to be scared.

What you have to be aware of when you get there (try to stay conscious as long as you can), is that you can make bad beings go away.
If some guide or something shows and says he is a good being, you should check him if he is real. The easiest way for this is to ask him the information that only you and your true guide would know. If he doesn't know immediately and starts to guess or something, make him go away.

You can make beings go away on many ways, the easiest one would be 'I am not scared of you, I don't need you! Get away!'. Because when they sense your fear, they are eager to eat your energy. So that makes you scared even more, or even exhausted. There are many ways... you can show them you're not scared, you can say them to get away, you can say some mantra such as Gayatri, and it makes them dissapear really fast, or you can do some positive thing, send light and love or something, and dark beings escape. Dark beings are sensitive to white light. It like kills them, it makes them feel really bad, so they go away.

Be aware that you don't end in some trap. This is when you're lucid dreaming, you can end in a tunnel, or locked somewhere, or they haunt you, try to brake you or anything... these are traps and when they appear, do not go in, if these beings try to attack you and you sense anything bad, use some technique like said previously or some which you may know, and get away as fast as you can.

Anyway, astral projections can also be dangerous in a sense that you should never go to far away from your body because you could get lost... then it is very dagerous, because you could loose your connection with your body. So if you stick to your body, for example with some tie, it is good. Just try not to go too far away from the body. Then it is safe.
Also, if you don't want to leave you body, make a strong intent that you want to stay in your body and it should work. Also, if you wish to end an astral projection, simply return into your body through some string or tie leadind you to your body, or through hearth or any grounding technique, also you can make a strong intent to end it and return to your body and you should.

And yes, the best thing when you are going to travel is to first shield yourself. Maybe use some of your guides, or shield yourself by energy, merkabah, etc... there are many techniques which can be used.

I just highlighted some of the dangers that can happen. So these experiences do not have to be negative. I had many more positive ones, and from when I learned how to make bad beings go away, there are yet more positive ones. I usually research some hidden things, secrets, etc.... it is interesting, but at least at the beginning do not try to do this.

This with the energy and the third eye, some times it just happens that your channel opens up or you just get the energy. It can be for different reasons.
I don't think it is necessarily kundalini, because kundalini is much stronger thing than just this, but could be also, why not. Do you feel anything in your back? Do you notice any other things related to the energy experience than what you wrote?

I remembered that once in a dream I became full of some white light and I saw my own body all white inside. When I woke up, the feeling was like after some kind of attunement. And then I had the energy and can still make it come with thoughts. You could have or some kind of attunement, or some kind of empowerment for some time. If it stays for more time, then be glad, you got an energy attunement. Some times it happens.

Once when we did some kind of transmisy meditation with some friends, we got some attunement at the end by Earth like a gift for healing her. Often you can get an attunement to help you grow more or for a gift for some exchange or something... so for me it is not weird.

Hope I made a point.

Love and Light

Can't you just "wake up", I thought you were tied to your body, otherwise why can't you just go in someone else's body when they are projecting or someone else into yours?

And I really want to project and meet my guides, what type of questions should I ask them so that they "pass the test"? The furthest I've gotten is a vibrating state (I actually got this several times), and once I heard lots of voices (sleep paralysis) and then started vibrating, but I can't "launch" out of there, and when I force a launch I end up in a lucid dream of me astrally projecting.

And wth traps when lucid dreaming? I lucid dream all the time (my mind is analytical and recognizes its in a dream pretty fast), and to my understanding lucid dreaming is you simply playing w/ your subconscious, instead of the other way around, which is a normal dream. I don't even think your in an astral realm).

[Anthoneee]

Maybe your fear comes from a combination of the unknown, and struggling against it. I say next time it happens, try your best to let it happen, it may be the best experience of your life.

[KaleidoskopicVision]

Originally Posted by Fred Tracy

So in essence you're identifying with your consciousness rather than body, and the rocking motion helps your spirit escape a bit? Neat idea.. if I decide to try this stuff again, which I probably will, I'll give this one a shot.

Yes. Also to enter trance it is helpful to focus on the colorful lights that sometimes appear with closed eyes. You'll know it's working when they stop making odd shapes and moving around and you see just a bluish or violet orb, often referred to in meditative initiatory circles as the 'blue pearl' or the third eye.

[Fred Tracy]

Originally Posted by Anthoneee

Maybe your fear comes from a combination of the unknown, and struggling against it. I say next time it happens, try your best to let it happen, it may be the best experience of your life.

I think this is true. Last time this happened, I started accidentally projecting three times. The first two, it scared me, I resisted, and it persisted. (hey I rhymed!)

The last time, I just gave up and let it happen, and it went away. Odd how that works..

Originally Posted by KaleidoskopicVision

Yes. Also to enter trance it is helpful to focus on the colorful lights that sometimes appear with closed eyes. You'll know it's working when they stop making odd shapes and moving around and you see just a bluish or violet orb, often referred to in meditative initiatory circles as the 'blue pearl' or the third eye.

The blue pearl huh? Never heard it called that, interesting. I have taken note of what you said. Bluish violent orb it is.

[gunrosie]

Please Be Careful. I have had many "gifts" or whatever you want to call it since I was a child. Your body is a temple for your sole. When you are projecting, your sole outside the body leaving it unprotected. There are many things that can happen to a sole outside the human body. Demonic attack is the worst! Also when you step out on a plane, your simplest tiny thought can be more easily read and/or stolen from you. Good secret ideas go bye bye. Also, your human body is unprotected. Your leaving an empty shell for God knows what to tamper with. Wish I could give you advice on how to achieve more with your craft, but I can't. I'm a Natural.

[HiImJeremy]

Originally Posted by gunrosie

Please Be Careful. I have had many "gifts" or whatever you want to call it since I was a child. Your body is a temple for your sole. When you are projecting, your sole outside the body leaving it unprotected. There are many things that can happen to a sole outside the human body. Demonic attack is the worst! Also when you step out on a plane, your simplest tiny thought can be more easily read and/or stolen from you. Good secret ideas go bye bye. Also, your human body is unprotected. Your leaving an empty shell for God knows what to tamper with. Wish I could give you advice on how to achieve more with your craft, but I can't. I'm a Natural.

Your soul does not leave your body in an astral projection. That stays firmly within you. An Astral copy is made that has a memory of it's own and your consciousness can be with that and your body at the same time. This is called the mind split effect. You can also have a dreaming mind too, and they can all be going similtaneously recording their own memory. Then when they're done they bring it back.

You can face things on the astral, but if you research, you can find the appropriate defenses. A lot of stuff in the astral is a test to experience even more.

You do not leave an empty shell, your body still functions as it would during sleep. Your sole does not leave. A copy of your memory and consciousness leave the body and travels.

[justanumber]

jeremy,have you ever seen a soul? if so,please post a picture of one here. it amazes me that so many sane and smart people believe in this stuff. why can't you guys accept it as works of our brain. i know that our brains are very very powerful and when the brain dies,so does our thoughts and fantasies and consciousness.

[HiImJeremy]

Originally Posted by justanumber

jeremy,have you ever seen a soul? if so,please post a picture of one here. it amazes me that so many sane and smart people believe in this stuff. why can't you guys accept it as works of our brain. i know that our brains are very very powerful and when the brain dies,so does our thoughts and fantasies and consciousness.

As you have chosen to target me here, i will reply to your question.

No, i have not seen a soul. Have you seen the energy of Love, or air? Do you know these things exist regardless? You've felt these things surely?

Also, You must not have actually had a conscious astral projection before - this is commonly why people don't believe it. Religion and scepticism are other reasons.

Your derision is due to ignorance on your part. Actually try it yourself, then when you have that experience, do come back and apologise! There's a good lad! Have a pleasant day

[desertrat]

There does seam to be a debate on wether any thing can happen to ones phy. or astral body while out of body . Most say sround your self white light and you will be fine . I have tried for years and have not got too far . desert rat

[Fred Tracy]

Originally Posted by Fred Tracy

The blue pearl huh? Never heard it called that, interesting. I have taken note of what you said. Bluish violent orb it is.

Wow, it's really interesting coming back to this thread for a number of reasons. First of all, I have experienced what is called the blue pearl recently – or at least something that seems like it. it occurs whenever I get really relaxed with my meditation. I even wrote an article on it, which you can read here.

it's also interesting because if you look at what I quoted of myself, I put violent instead of violet. Was that a Freudian slip? Utoh… lol.

@gunrosie Thanks for the warning. It is definitely a scary sensation. After I saw the movie Insidious I want to never again astral project. Well, actually I never wanted astral project in the first place. It is happened as a consequence of my meditation and lucid dreaming. Nevertheless going to be careful with it. :-)

@justanumber There is a lot of debate as to what is true regarding consciousness and psychology. Try this article, written by a fellow blogger.