Belief in curses?

[SethWilliams]

Originally Posted by Weena

Prayers for others will only work if they accept the gift . So if someone tries to curse you, I go back to my original explanation: if you don't "accept" it it just won't work

That is very true!

You have complete control over your vibration. And if you desire you can reject any energy sent to you.

[Weena]

Originally Posted by KaleidoskopicVision

A lot of people are approaching this from the situation in which the victim knows someone is trying to curse them.

Consider that the victim is oblivious. Do you think a curse can work in that situation?

Nope.

If you are oblivious to it and just naturally know you are protected anyway I'm sure it'd be pretty hard for a curse to work.

On top of that, what you send out always comes back to you stronger. you send good intentions for others, you receive them multiplied. I guess if you try to curse others...the boomerang coming back won't be a most pleasant one.

[Weena]

Originally Posted by SethWilliams

That is very true!

You have complete control over your vibration. And if you desire you can reject any energy sent to you.

I seal my aura and put special instructions on it . If some type of energy has somewhat penetrated (not in the situation of curses, but cord attachment for example), I work with Archangel Michael to do cord cutting and cleansing. I actually can feel the sensation of the cord cutting (I can tell you how little or big it feels) and "crap cleansing".

[KaleidoskopicVision]

Originally Posted by Weena

Nope.

If you are oblivious to it and just naturally know you are protected anyway I'm sure it'd be pretty hard for a curse to work.

On top of that, what you send out always comes back to you stronger. you send good intentions for others, you receive them multiplied. I guess if you try to curse others...the boomerang coming back won't be a most pleasant one.

Well since curses are basically thought forms I agree with this. Physical objects can definitely hurt you if you're oblivious to them though

Also to the person trying to curse someone else, the curse does more damage to them than it does to the target. Someone else in the thread mentioned this but I'd like to expound on the why.

When you are angry at someone, when you are feeling hatred toward someone, who suffers? It hurts to feel anger or hatred, you become cold and disconnected, you might physically injure yourself because your rational judgment is clouded, the stress of the emotion will cause you to feel physically unwell, the thoughts of ambivalence are also like a subtle poison of the mind. To wish someone else harm is to be dwelling on causing harm, something which will spike the adrenals and create an overall feeling of 'bad vibes'. People will pick up on it and avoid you so your social relationships will suffer. You won't be able to focus because the emotion will be so overwhelming. It starts to subtly impact every aspect of your life.

This is what the concept of karma is basically. There's no divine system of angelic retribution for evildoers, they reap what they sow. Someone so filled with hatred that they curse someone will sever their connection to their heart center for a very long time. Since true happiness comes in many ways from our ability to feel connected, this is much worse than any potential physical harm the victim will suffer as a result of this curse.

A quote from Buddha on this "Holding onto anger is like holding onto a hot coal with the intention of throwing it at someone".

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by KaleidoskopicVision

A lot of people are approaching this from the situation in which the victim knows someone is trying to curse them.

Consider that the victim is oblivious. Do you think a curse can work in that situation?

I think harmful energy can affect the persons energy field and create illness there, but without the power of suggestion driving the curse home, it would not create the same fear in the person that de-stabilizes him/her.

It's really hard to tell if the curser succeeded or not, given that the person may not be all that healthy to start with or maintain auric hygeine, which could leave them open to getting sick anyway??

I knew a guy who shared with me that he used to constantly wish his teacher would get hit by a car when he was at school...and one day, he did, and died!
This guy still thinks he caused it, but how can anyone really know for sure...maybe the guy just didn't look both ways?

I myself have a personal story relating to this and something I thought towards a woman I knew, and things happened to her brother which created the situation I had wished for towards her, being that she would know one day what it is like to receive no support (since she didn't give me any when I really needed a friend), Her brother ended up in a terrible car accident and paraplegic, and she chose to care for him.

I don't think I "made that happen" but perhaps that was something she needed to learn about anyway?

[supertom]

Originally Posted by Weena

Prayers for others will only work if they accept the gift . So if someone tries to curse you, I go back to my original explanation: if you don't "accept" it it just won't work

So its a duel you want aye


I agree, I think the most powerful form of NOT accepting it is "I dont believe in curses". Indifference.

I think thats why shamans have outrageous outfits, colourings and skulls, to overwhelm the conscious minds of others and leave a impression...... like a tiger.

[Weena]

KV: yes and yes yes! Or like the quote of Mandela "Hating someone is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die from it".

Tom: perhaps the power of suggestion is indeed stronger with all the fancy accessories

Luci... be careful re: LOA we just talked about...

[Summerbreeze]

CUURRRSE ON YAAHH !! RAWRR!!

[KaleidoskopicVision]

Originally Posted by Summerbreeze

CUURRRSE ON YAAHH !! RAWRR!!

My eyes! X_X

[supertom]

Originally Posted by Summerbreeze

CUURRRSE ON YAAHH !! RAWRR!!

I totally want that costume

Have you encountered any fearsome creatures while on your OBE adventures

[Summerbreeze]

Originally Posted by supertom

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Have you encountered any fearsome creatures while on your OBE adventures

Not when I'm projecting in that costume.

Imagine doing teleport, forming light claws, doing stuff and speak with no fear, just raw-tiger-confidence in your voice.

[Anagogy]

Originally Posted by Weena

Do you? Inspired by an other topic...

Personally I absolutely do not. As much as I believe in lots of things..."curses" seem like complete BS to me...

Originally Posted by Weena

Ah! BUT, if I ask for a remote healing I do give permission to that person to work on my aura. If I join the game "read the energy of the person about you", again, I give permission to the person to "read" me. However for curses, I believe it would work only if you allow it or give the person the power to utilise it against you. I'm not saying things don't happen as I once had a weird experience of almost being pulled out of my body as I had sleep paralysis but even then I tried to defend myself mentally and it worked (that was 4 years ago). I cannot phatom how someone's ill will could affect me. I reckon it would affect themselves (you get what you give out), but not me .

From my perspective, the way it works is this: all realities in which we share experience with other points of consciousness are consensus realities. The shared aspects of experience represent a dialog among individual points of consciousness. This allows communication to go back and forth between occupants of said reality. One can exert influence upon another based on the "agreements" inherent in a given reality. This happens on both gross and subtle levels of consciousness.

If you wanted to curse someone, you would attempt to pull them into your agreement of reality. You are attempting to get them to agree, at some level of their being, to believe or accept your reality. This is like a kind of seduction, or suggestion. First you erode their resistance through various means like tiring them out, confusing them, shocking them in some way, or just plain boring them by repeating things over and over. Eventually they space out, or dissociate. Essentially, it is hypnosis. You find a way to disable, even if only temporarily, the cognitive function that represents critical judgment. They then become suggestible. You have an "in" into their consciousness.

Don't ever believe anyone who says you cannot be hypnotized to do something that is not in alignment with your better judgment. Unfortunately, you most certainly can. One of the effects of hypnosis (and one of the reasons for increased suggestibility) is that some mental functions are disabled or muted, allowing other mental functions (and some quite useful) to come forward. A trance state is a collection of these enabled and disabled cognitive functions.

What does this have to do with curses? Well, if these barriers to change are eroded properly, you become more prone to accepting suggestions which can and will alter your perception and behavior. Have you ever seen a stage hypnosis show where a subject was hypnotized and then later, unconsciously acted upon a posthypnotic suggestion (such as getting shocked when they shake someones hand) and expressed bewilderment that they did what they did? Bingo. Same principle as curses.

If someone were psychically talented enough, they could perform this feat remotely on someone who had those particular traits which made them more likely to be susceptible or sensitive to this kind of telepathy. They become unwitting acceptors of a detrimental reality. When this shared reality is created, manifestation with real world consequences is the result.

Now is this cursing business that common? Lord no. But it does happen, occasionally. We have natural psychological defenses to many things, but life often has a way of putting us in a susceptible state, when we become imbalanced through our own misaligned thoughts and beliefs. Some people have a natural talent for unconsciously pulling others into their reality. What do you think charisma is? Charismatic trances pull other peoples energies into focusing on their (the charismatic's) realities.

This also works for healing by the way. From my perspective, all healing is self-healing. You get them to see, through your influence, the perfection within. And when they accept this reality at a very deep level, it reforms the pattern of illusions that make up their mind, body, and spirit to be congruent with this state of well being or connection.

[elucidate]

Would you say this is what happened in the case of Irisha with the telepathic 'channel' between her and her hypnotherapist, from that thread a while back, Anagogy?

[Anagogy]

Originally Posted by elucidate

Would you say this is what happened in the case of Irisha with the telepathic 'channel' between her and her hypnotherapist, from that thread a while back, Anagogy?

It's very possible, but I hesitate to make a judgment call on that. I would have to know a LOT more about her case than she presented in that thread.

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by Anagogy

It's very possible, but I hesitate to make a judgment call on that. I would have to know a LOT more about her case than she presented in that thread.

I think that's wise. Thanks.

Interesting what you said about the methods some people use to create this 'consensus reality'. I think most people operate this way anyhow, without realizing it, that is, they take on another persons opinion without questioning whether they really believe it, just to fit in, so for someone to be able to do that consciously to manipulate others...very cunning.

I saw a video a while ago showing an NLP practitioner demonstrating how easy it is to place people into a hypnotic state even while they are wide awake. He walked up to a total stranger in the street in London and , by the methods you described here, got him to actually hand over his wallet and then walked off.
The guy walked away for about 40 paces and then realized what had happened and chased after him, whereupon he proceeded to do it again to him, and AGAIN, talked him into giving him the wallet, and walking off...it was really amazing. The guy was totally stupefied, both times.

[Anagogy]

Originally Posted by elucidate

I think that's wise. Thanks.

Interesting what you said about the methods some people use to create this 'consensus reality'. I think most people operate this way anyhow, without realizing it, that is, they take on another persons opinion without questioning whether they really believe it, just to fit in, so for someone to be able to do that consciously to manipulate others...very cunning.

I saw a video a while ago showing an NLP practitioner demonstrating how easy it is to place people into a hypnotic state even while they are wide awake. He walked up to a total stranger in the street in London and , by the methods you described here, got him to actually hand over his wallet and then walked off.
The guy walked away for about 40 paces and then realized what had happened and chased after him, whereupon he proceeded to do it again to him, and AGAIN, talked him into giving him the wallet, and walking off...it was really amazing. The guy was totally stupefied, both times.

Darren Brown perhaps?

It's amazing isn't it? Suggestion can be so powerful.

[Midnite]

I think what was established here is that the party doing a "curse" is more realistically establishing a set of extremely negative scenarios which then convince you that you are in fact cursed, as a result; snowballing an internal negative downward spiral where your thoughts and imagination act as accelerators. If you just don't believe you are cursed or impacted in any way, then the party trying to curse you has effectively failed.

Since we have already opened the door of psychological warfare, I would like to pose a question; Who here believes that they are currently strong enough (mentally, physically, emotionally, spiritually) to be able to effectively 'defend' themselves from a third party who has intentions to wear you down and force you into a state where you believed you are cursed?

There are many methods of attacking/ defending in such an example. I have been trying to research further into the 'attacking' part as this would be the best avenue for creating appropriate defenses.

Attacking: sending negative energy, threats in your dreams, positive energy 'vampires', sending notions of bad health, physically or spiritually directing you down the wrong path, stating strong comments in real life that you are indeed cursed, wearing ridiculous outfits to prove their point (LOL Summerbreeze), degrading you in any way, posing racial comments or finding your 'weak spots', doing any of the above to your family/ friends.

Defending: creating powerful psychic protection, mentally projecting and feeling extremely positive, expressing strong affirmations of your good health, naivety on the subject altogether, having strong affiliations with your Guardian Angel/Guides or any other form of higher being, the casting of any kinds of religious/occult/cultural/ritualistic protection or healing.

If anybody has any others to add, please do so.

I would also like you to keep in mind that if somebody is trying to hurt you, then there must have been a strong reason why. It may also be the case that they may have also been hired by your inflicting party. In either case, it represents a pretty strong case for their intending success.

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by Midnite

Since we have already opened the door of psychological warfare, I would like to pose a question; Who here believes that they are currently strong enough (mentally, physically, emotionally, spiritually) to be able to effectively 'defend' themselves from a third party who has intentions to wear you down and force you into a state where you believed you are cursed?

I've experienced this with a recent lover, who I ditched two months ago. He tried very hard to bring me down to his level, but then, he believed he was cursed, and he was intensely jealous of me at times, because I am thin and have no weight issues or health issues.

I don't think he realized how his actions and words were doing me damage...it was more an unconscious desire to see me come down to his level so he could feel more comfortable about the fact that he was ****ed, mentally, physically in very poor health with lots of injuries and post-operative side effects,and spiritually.

I never believed I was cursed though, I knew what he was trying to do all along, and why, and I didn't buy into it.

I think if you just don't believe what the person says about you to you, then you are naturally protected...since you don't really care what they think. The minute you care what they think, then you are in trouble.

My main problem was that I believed on some level that I deserve to be punished.

No one can really hurt you unless you allow it.

physically or spiritually directing you down the wrong path, stating strong comments in real life that you are indeed cursed, degrading you in any way, or finding your 'weak spots',

These were all tactics he employed, and a few others that are more under the heading of emotional abuse, gaslighting, invalidation etc.

would also like you to keep in mind that if somebody is trying to hurt you, then there must have been a strong reason why. It may also be the case that they may have also been hired by your inflicting party. In either case, it represents a pretty strong case for their intending success.

Usually it has something to do with the fact that they are incredibly miserable, and misery loves company.

[Merrick1]

Over the years I have been doing spiritual healing I have come accross several cases of curses and in most cases the people were completely oblivious of the problem. Also, some of them carried a curse from a past life to this day. As soon as the curse was lifted, they instantly recovered from whatever had brought them to us. And it was a heavy stuff. Only in one case the person wasn't very appreciative because the outer conditions didn't change after the therapy. But, of course, we can't live their lives for others.

There have also been been several possessions causing a great distress to the people. And again, most of them had no clue what was causing their problems.

We would have never told those people that there was a curse or a possession affecting their lives if we didn't know how to deal with it and if they hadn't approached us for help. But we did help them and it was a great learning for everybody.

Yesterday there was a British documentary on TV (translated to Czech literally as "I Was Dead") about four people who have survived the clinical death.

There were some medical doctors interviewed about this. One them admitted that those experiences those people had described couldn't be explained by modern medicine. And there was another one who insisted that those were all hallucinations and bits of memory, totally ignoring some obvious facts. For example, one girl described the whole conversation of her relatives, word by word, although they had been sitting in a hospital restaurant, while she was in coma. And other similar things.

And those survivors, of course, said that no matter what everyone else says, this is their own experience which no one can take away from them.

I too have my own experience with many things between the heavens and the earth which no one will ever take away from me. And you have yours.

So, with regards to the things which can't be proven like 1+1=2, I like these words which are ascribed to the Buddha:

"Do not rely upon what you have heard proclaimed, or upon custom, or upon rumour, or upon scripture, or inference or established principles, or clever reasoning, or favouring a pet theory. Do not be convinced by someone else's apparent intelligence, nor out of respect for a teacher... When you yourself know what is wrong, foolish and unworthy, and what leads to harm and discontent, abandon it... And when you yourself know what is right, develop it."

(As presented by Amavarati Buddhist Monastery, England).

Merrick

[Midnite]

Originally Posted by Merrick1

Over the years I have been doing spiritual healing I have come accross several cases of curses and in most cases the people were completely oblivious of the problem. Also, some of them carried a curse from a past life to this day. As soon as the curse was lifted, they instantly recovered from whatever had brought them to us. And it was a heavy stuff. Only in one case the person wasn't very appreciative because the outer conditions didn't change after the therapy. But, of course, we can't live their lives for others.

There have also been been several possessions causing a great distress to the people. And again, most of them had no clue what was causing their problems.

We would have never told those people that there was a curse or a possession affecting their lives if we didn't know how to deal with it and if they hadn't approached us for help. But we did help them and it was a great learning for everybody.

Yesterday there was a British documentary on TV (translated to Czech literally as "I Was Dead") about four people who have survived the clinical death.

There were some medical doctors interviewed about this. One them admitted that those experiences those people had described couldn't be explained by modern medicine. And there was another one who insisted that those were all hallucinations and bits of memory, totally ignoring some obvious facts. For example, one girl described the whole conversation of her relatives, word by word, although they had been sitting in a hospital restaurant, while she was in coma. And other similar things.

And those survivors, of course, said that no matter what everyone else says, this is their own experience which no one can take away from them.

I too have my own experience with many things between the heavens and the earth which no one will ever take away from me. And you have yours.

So, with regards to the things which can't be proven like 1+1=2, I like these words which are ascribed to the Buddha:

"Do not rely upon what you have heard proclaimed, or upon custom, or upon rumour, or upon scripture, or inference or established principles, or clever reasoning, or favouring a pet theory. Do not be convinced by someone else's apparent intelligence, nor out of respect for a teacher... When you yourself know what is wrong, foolish and unworthy, and what leads to harm and discontent, abandon it... And when you yourself know what is right, develop it."

(As presented by Amavarati Buddhist Monastery, England).

Merrick

Hi Merrick,

I believe what you are saying.

What you are talking about does exist, but may not necessarily fall under the category of a 'curse'.

some of them carried a curse from a past life to this day.

Merrick what you are suggesting here transcends the laws of reincarnation. I do not believe it is possible for a 'curse', casted on Earth, to follow a soul into the afterlife, and back down onto Earth again through reincarnation, without being picked up by some form of Angel or Light being. Could it possibly be that you were in fact healing these people of their Karmic Debt?
Karma is one of the only methods of balance that is allowable to follow you into the next life. The reason it exists; is so that humans can't get away with murder (so to speak).

The Soul's memory is wiped clean for a reason.
I do know of some people to get strange tingling sensations in their arms, or legs (to find out they had been either shot or severely injured in those exact same spots in a previous life). I also know of people to be intrinsically fearful of deep water (to find out they had drowned in a previous life).
When you die, you spend a lot of time in healing. Sometimes it takes days, and sometimes it takes years. The bottom line is that you get 'healed' in order for you to take on the next life with a clean slate.

There have also been several possessions causing a great distress to the people. And again, most of them had no clue what was causing their problems.

Possessions occur when you are in an extremely negative state of mindframe. The possessed are never usually aware of their 'cabin buddies' unless the inflicting spirit/demon wants them to be aware in order to establish an incredible state of fear or panic.
These are very real, but not exactly under the category of 'curses'. To be cursed and to be possessed are two very different concepts. The first requires negative energy to hang around a victim. The later suggests a spirit literally jumps into them.

Everybody has their own experiences here on Earth, and nobody can take that away from you. In your line of work, you may have come across a lot of spiritual baggage and also a great deal of things that we never knew existed.

One thing is for sure;
Those people who are in the business of healing others, don't have to explain themselves to anybody.

[Merrick1]

Originally Posted by Merrick1

Over the years I have been doing spiritual healing I have come accross several cases of curses and in most cases the people were completely oblivious of the problem. Also, some of them carried a curse from a past life to this day.

Originally Posted by Midnite

Hi Merrick,

I believe what you are saying.

What you are talking about does exist, but may not necessarily fall under the category of a 'curse'.

Why not? I have been sharing my experience with curses here.

The reason I have mentioned possessions as well is this:

Originally Posted by elucidate

No one can really hurt you unless you allow it.

Being hurt by a curse or by a possessive spirit or entity (sometimes this goes together) amounts to the same, in this context.

I was trying to illustrate that one doesn't have to be aware of what they are allowing, of what beliefs they have... There are many unconscious beliefs we all have, being totally oblivious of them. Just consider how many people scoff at the Tarot cards. And yet, their symbolism speaks to each and every one of us, including the fundamentalist Christians who believe that they are the works of the devil. They do not believe in them, they disregard them - consciously. But their unconscious does believe in them because they are universal symbols.

And most of us have lots of disempowering stuff in the unconscious, many unresolved issues which resonate with the malignant energies that may be aimed at us. And where there is a mutual resonance, there is also a mutual attraction.

Originally Posted by Merrick1

some of them carried a curse from a past life to this day.

Originally Posted by Midnite

Merrick what you are suggesting here transcends the laws of reincarnation.

No, it does not. Not according to my experience.

Originally Posted by Midnite

I do not believe it is possible for a 'curse', casted on Earth, to follow a soul into the afterlife, and back down onto Earth again through reincarnation, without being picked up by some form of Angel or Light being.

Well, it is not the job of the angels or Light Beings to pick up our curses for us, as far as I am concerned . Although they may do it sometimes for us.

Originally Posted by Midnite

Could it possibly be that you were in fact healing these people of their Karmic Debt?

The curse itself could have been been karmic. But that's not the only possibility. In any case, when an issue is fully resolved in the therapy, it has been deleted from the Akashic Records.

Originally Posted by Midnite

Karma is one of the only methods of balance that is allowable to follow you into the next life. The reason it exists; is so that humans can't get away with murder (so to speak).

The Soul's memory is wiped clean for a reason.
I do know of some people to get strange tingling sensations in their arms, or legs (to find out they had been either shot or severely injured in those exact same spots in a previous life). I also know of people to be intrinsically fearful of deep water (to find out they had drowned in a previous life).
When you die, you spend a lot of time in healing. Sometimes it takes days, and sometimes it takes years. The bottom line is that you get 'healed' in order for you to take on the next life with a clean slate.

I have come accross this belief that we come back here with a clean slate. I don't know where this belief comes from. It is possible that because we go straight to the Light (ideally) after the death that many people believe that we remain there until the next reincarnation and that we get healed in the meantime.

According to what I know this is not true. We spend some time in the Light and then we descend to the astral world (unless we are already enlightened). The souls in the astral world are often not any more aware than while occupying the physical body here on the Earthplane. And when they come back here they often repeat the same patterns of thinking and behaviour as in the past lives. And the same or similar situations are presented to them to give them an opportunity to pass the lessons they failed to pass in the past. So, there is no clean slate whatsoever. We see it in our work time and time again.

Originally Posted by Midnite

Possessions occur when you are in an extremely negative state of mindframe. The possessed are never usually aware of their 'cabin buddies' unless the inflicting spirit/demon wants them to be aware in order to establish an incredible state of fear or panic.
These are very real, but not exactly under the category of 'curses'. To be cursed and to be possessed are two very different concepts. The first requires negative energy to hang around a victim. The later suggests a spirit literally jumps into them.

I have explained this above.

Originally Posted by Midnite

One thing is for sure;
Those people who are in the business of healing others, don't have to explain themselves to anybody.

Oh yes. But sometimes it is interesting or even useful to share experiences. Thank you for sharing yours .

Merrick

[gigij]

In my experience a curse is a thought form or intention that manifests itself as subtle negative energy in your field. Similar to an intrusion or entanglement. Most of the ones I have encountered are 'unintentional' - the person doesn't even know they have sent it - it forms out of our interactions and thoughts. I've cursed myself and had the clear the negative energy that was hanging around.

[Midnite]

Originally Posted by Merrick1

I have come accross this belief that we come back here with a clean slate. I don't know where this belief comes from. It is possible that because we go straight to the Light (ideally) after the death that many people believe that we remain there until the next reincarnation and that we get healed in the meantime.

According to what I know this is not true. We spend some time in the Light and then we descend to the astral world (unless we are already enlightened). The souls in the astral world are often not any more aware than while occupying the physical body here on the Earthplane. And when they come back here they often repeat the same patterns of thinking and behaviour as in the past lives. And the same or similar situations are presented to them to give them an opportunity to pass the lessons they failed to pass in the past. So, there is no clean slate whatsoever. We see it in our work time and time again.

Merrick

Do you find this a consistent trait? Or is this something imminently present in those souls that attain incredible amounts of Karmic Debt and do not effectively learn their lessons here on Earth?

What is fascinating me right now is that you are coming across souls that firstly didn't recognise they were cursed while on Earth, but more importantly still remained ignorant of it in the Afterlife. Surely while in spirit-form, it would be more easily recognisable that something was weighing you down?

Something that didn't cross my mind earlier was; what did those souls do in order to attract those curses in the first place? If the lessons were not learned the first time, I can see why it would continue follow them.

eerie thoughts.

Start learning your lessons people!

[Merrick1]

Originally Posted by Midnite

Do you find this a consistent trait? Or is this something imminently present in those souls that attain incredible amounts of Karmic Debt and do not effectively learn their lessons here on Earth?

Yes, this is a consistent trait.

Those souls who go to the lower realms of the astral are indeed still very unaware. The energies scale down through the astral from the higher frequencies to much lower ones. In the highest frequencies of the astral world there are souls who are already quite awakened. And then there is something in between. I have some beautiful memories of my contact with the higher astral from my childhood. Nowadays there sometimes are only some flashes. But my spiritual teacher has explored this world quite thoroughly and my girlfriend can consciously visit it at any time as well.

The souls who are more advanced do not have to go to the astral. They can stay in some higher dimensions. And those, who are already enlightened, may remain in the Light. And then they may choose to incarnate on the Earthplane to help, to teach, to heal...

(This is put just very schematically. One could talk about these things in a great length).

Originally Posted by Midnite

What is fascinating me right now is that you are coming across souls that firstly didn't recognise they were cursed while on Earth

Well, I recall one case where the person learned in a past life that they had been cursed but died several hours later because no one helped them.

Anyway, how many people encounter a sudden misfortune or even death every day? To me it is not surprising that those people didn't attribute this to anything abnormal. Heart attacks, accidents... Especially if they don't believe in curses

Originally Posted by Midnite

but more importantly still remained ignorant of it in the Afterlife. Surely while in spirit-form, it would be more easily recognisable that something was weighing you down?

I didn't say they remained ignorant of it in the Afterlife. I don't even think it is possible; we are shown our life after the death. But when we reincarnate, we forget everything. Most of us do.

Originally Posted by Midnite

Something that didn't cross my mind earlier was; what did those souls do in order to attract those curses in the first place? If the lessons were not learned the first time, I can see why it would continue follow them.

The reasons may be many. One example from this lifetime:

A lady approached us saying that about a year ago there had been some breaking point in her life and since then everything went wrong. She was desperate. My then colleague discovered, through her psychic abilities, that the woman had had an affair with a married man. She confirmed that to us.

That man was a womanizer, cheating on his wife all the time. She was just one in a long row. But she was unlucky because her husband's affair with her was the last straw for his wife, causing her so much pain that she cursed her. Of course, it harmed her as much as her husband's mistress but this was a pure solace for this woman, whose life was in shambles as a result. She didn't know she had been cursed when she came to us. She was just lost and confused why nothing was working in her life, all of a sudden.

We helped her. And about a year later I met her in town. And she said to me: "You have turned my life so nicely around."

There may be many reasons why something like this can happen. It may come as a result of our refusing to listen to a strict warning from the Universe, it may be what is called a Jolt of Fate - a tough life lesson.

But whatever the cause, a curse always reminds us how important being firmly anchored in the Light is, and how important it is to have a strong faith in God.

In order that a person may withstand a powerful psychic attack, their faith has to be very strong and they have to be full of Light. But few people really are that strong.

Merrick