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Old 02-24-2011, 01:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Just curious: what is the definition of an intellectual empath?

Also, what would be the difference between the emotional empath and the intellectual empath?
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Hello,

An emotional empath feels other people's emotions.

An intellectual empath picks up on and reproduces other people's ways of thinking.

(A physical empath feels other people's physical sensations.)

I wrote a blog post about this if you are interested: Are You an Empath? | Rosine Caplot . com
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Thank you, Rose!! I really appreciate it. I've read the terms but never really found an explaination of the differences. I will definitely check out your blog.
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Hiii Momo3bur,

I am also empath and it's helpful article from Rose of cairo. I have this ability and it is scattered.

Wish you good luck that you develop this ability very well and support others when it comes.

Nice to see another empath here.
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Thank you, Fed! It's nice to meet you too!!
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Hello,

An emotional empath feels other people's emotions.

An intellectual empath picks up on and reproduces other people's ways of thinking.

(A physical empath feels other people's physical sensations.)

I wrote a blog post about this if you are interested: Are You an Empath? | Rosine Caplot . com
I learned a lot about myself from reading that! Thank you so much!
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I learned a lot about myself from reading that! Thank you so much!
You are so welcome.

As an empath it is important to understand that we are no victims. The skill can be trained and consciously used. It is very useful. It only leads to suffering when it is out of control.
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You are so welcome.

As an empath it is important to understand that we are no victims. The skill can be trained and consciously used. It is very useful. It only leads to suffering when it is out of control.
Yes, Ive been aware that Im an empath for a while.

I had no clue about the differing types though.

I have both Intellectual and Emotional Empathic tendancies.

The intellectual empathy is a complete eye opener though. Explains alot about my... well it explains alot about my life.

So thank you for the wonderful article <3
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Yes Rose! Thank you so very much!! Your blog really did help clear a lot of questions up for me as well. I knew I was an emotional empath, but I was wondering about the intellectual type because I seem to have a tendency to be able to understand what people are trying to express very easily, even when many times others around us seem to be completely oblivious or confused. Anyway, it did explain many of the situations I put myself in, especially when I was a teenager. LOL. You never really know who you are because you tend to just become everyone else around you. Hmmm...it's good to know that, especially as a preventative measure for future situations.
I think I may also have physical empath tendencies as well. This explains A LOT and makes me feel much less crazy!! Now I know it's not just in my head when my head starts hurting around someone with a headache, or my knee starts to hurt around my husband's grandmother!! Whew!!

Me---->NOT CRAZY!!! WOOHOO!!! YAY!!!
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A strange thing happened to me today. I am borrowing a friend's car at the moment while he is in hospital. I can smell him in that car. That car has his energy all over it.
I am a sort of person who never buys anything unless I really need it. Conditioning I guess from not having a lot of money for years on end....
My friend doesn't have a lot either but he has a habit of cruising round buying things in the day. Well today I had to visit somewhere, and on the way back stopped at a superstore to get bread. That was all. Yet I found myself putting all kinds of things in my shopping basket just because I fancied doing that! (Believe it -that isn't me!) I bought the stuff, paid the bill, then walked back and put it all in the car.
Only when I got home I thought "Why did I buy all this stuff?"
I realized that is exactly what he does....
Funny but interesting, and a weird kind of empathy I think.....
Of course I shall not continue to do that!
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A strange thing happened to me today. I am borrowing a friend's car at the moment while he is in hospital. I can smell him in that car. That car has his energy all over it.
I am a sort of person who never buys anything unless I really need it. Conditioning I guess from not having a lot of money for years on end....
My friend doesn't have a lot either but he has a habit of cruising round buying things in the day. Well today I had to visit somewhere, and on the way back stopped at a superstore to get bread. That was all. Yet I found myself putting all kinds of things in my shopping basket just because I fancied doing that! (Believe it -that isn't me!) I bought the stuff, paid the bill, then walked back and put it all in the car.
Only when I got home I thought "Why did I buy all this stuff?"
I realized that is exactly what he does....
Funny but interesting, and a weird kind of empathy I think.....
Of course I shall not continue to do that!
LOL!! Bluestar, I know EXACTLY what you mean. I have a friend who is a shopper BIG time and I really don't enjoy doing this. But I will go with her just so we can have a "date" every once in a while and anytime she goes anywhere, she has to shop. She can also be a really negative and talk bad about people quite often, which is something I don't usually do. You know, normal girly gossip. I had to stop hanging around her too much because I catch myself not only immitating her behavior, but feeling incredibly pissed off everytime I get off the phone with her or leave her house! She doesn't do anything TO me to make me angry..she's just always angry and catty about something that someone else has done to her and complains almost constantly. lol. She's really a good hearted person and I love her to death, but geez...I always feel like a completely different person and like I've been through war trenches after we've been together.
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Hiii Momo3bur,

I am also empath and it's helpful article from Rose of cairo. I have this ability and it is scattered.

Wish you good luck that you develop this ability very well and support others when it comes.

Nice to see another empath here.
Hey Federer!! I meant to reply with a longer message before but I was completely tied up with kiddos and couldn't type much...then after that I forgot to come back and add to my reply to you... sorry.

Thank you so much for your kind words! I wish you the best of luck as well and I am also very glad to see another empath on here. Actually, it seems there are many around here, so I think we are all in the right place.

Nice to talk to you!
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Is empathy something that can be taught?

I'd like to think that it can. In fact from my own experience I'd lean towards a "yes" answer. I say this because I've developed my emotional empathy especially through my years of meditation. I think, if it can be taught, that it most definitely should! It's a wonderful ability when one is conscious of what it is. The more that ability is spread around the better the world we will live in I believe.

I'll admit that I don't like the word "empath" personally Sounds like a label, and I am very weary of labels. If it's just used as a word, fine. I just hope we don't fall into the trap of dividing up the world into categories: empaths and regular people. As I said, I think it's something we can all develop.

Thoughts?
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Is empathy something that can be taught?

I'd like to think that it can. In fact from my own experience I'd lean towards a "yes" answer. I say this because I've developed my emotional empathy especially through my years of meditation. I think, if it can be taught, that it most definitely should! It's a wonderful ability when one is conscious of what it is. The more that ability is spread around the better the world we will live in I believe.

I'll admit that I don't like the word "empath" personally Sounds like a label, and I am very weary of labels. If it's just used as a word, fine. I just hope we don't fall into the trap of dividing up the world into categories: empaths and regular people. As I said, I think it's something we can all develop.

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Hmmmm...I don't know if it's something that can be taught, but I wouldn't see why not. I mean, I would think every human being is equipped with empathy, it's just a matter of being open enough to pick up on it. I guess...well...I'm just guessing!

I totally agree with the label thing. I don't like labels, especially for myself. I'm becoming a little more open with using the words psychic, empath, etc., with other people who have been able to give themselves those titles, but it still makes me a little uncomfortable to have those words thrown at me....perhaps because I am doubting whether someone is actually "psychic" or just picking up on senses that are available inherently to everyone much better than the average joe. Perhaps it's because I doubt that my own senses could be put into the category of actual psychic or empath. I really don't know for sure. Sensitive and intuitve are my words of choice usually! And I've still had a really hard time labeling myself with any of those two either. I feel...pretentious when I do. But at some point I guess things have to be accepted and it's ok to acknowledge these things about yourself.

Does that make any sense?? lol.

I wonder who would be forced to the back of the bus...empaths or regular people? That joke is not even remotely sensitive or funny...but I'm gonna leave it!!
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Is empathy something that can be taught?

I'd like to think that it can. In fact from my own experience I'd lean towards a "yes" answer. I say this because I've developed my emotional empathy especially through my years of meditation. I think, if it can be taught, that it most definitely should! It's a wonderful ability when one is conscious of what it is. The more that ability is spread around the better the world we will live in I believe.

I'll admit that I don't like the word "empath" personally Sounds like a label, and I am very weary of labels. If it's just used as a word, fine. I just hope we don't fall into the trap of dividing up the world into categories: empaths and regular people. As I said, I think it's something we can all develop.

Thoughts?
I used to be in a community that taught empathy and telepathy to people.

It is possible to increase one sensitivity, of course. Meditation for one. Concentrating on ones empathic quality and bringing it forward to conscious awareness.

Not much more than that.

About labels, its hard to label someone whos just being human, and accessing a tool everyone and anyone can use with practise. Its like any other tool or skill. Its okay to call yourself an empath, just to describe your in alignment with your empathic quality at that point in time.
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I disagree momo. That joke may be insensitive but it is funny!

Thanks for the input you two. Teaching telepathy...That must be a total mind trip! :O
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I am now about 99% sure I am an empath but I need to learn to control it!! I was getting in trouble over something very minor last week at work and suddenly started crying. It was completely uncalled for and made no sense in context of what was going on. Needless to say i was quite embarassed I found out later at that exact moment a child I had taught was being pronounced dead at a nearby hospital ( hit by his bus). Now THAT would have made sense had I known at the time.

I also have this ability to learn to do new skills really quickly, some examples- knitting, playing guitar, drywall each time I think of someone I know who is really good at it and it is like I " borrow" their skills
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The intellectual empathy is a complete eye opener though. Explains alot about my... well it explains alot about my life.

So thank you for the wonderful article <3
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You never really know who you are because you tend to just become everyone else around you. Hmmm...it's good to know that, especially as a preventative measure for future situations.
I agree. It's great to be sensitive, but then again, we need to stay centered in our own truth as well. There is a balance to be found between being open to others and maintaining our own integrity.

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Me---->NOT CRAZY!!! WOOHOO!!! YAY!!!
Definitely. You are NOT crazy and it is NOT just in your head.

It's a sense, like smelling or hearing. You can learn to deal with it for your own benefit and enjoyment, or to help others, but without letting it drive you crazy.

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Funny but interesting, and a weird kind of empathy I think.....
Of course I shall not continue to do that!
Interesting! Reminds me of a story I heard about a yogi who, invited to dinner, ended up unconsciously stealing the forks, plates, and everything that was on the table at the end of the meal. When asked what he was doing, he had no idea! So they questioned the cook, and the cook admitted thinking about stealing things while cooking...
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I never broke empathy down into emotional, physical, or intellectual. From my experience, once I got any sort of results from empathy, it was all of them. When I do readings on something that happened, I could feel their emotions and physical pain, and receive their thoughts. I think it may have been broken down to help you concentrate on a specific area, it would be easier to do that than to take on empathy in it's entirety.



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Its a really cool thing to borrow skills, I use it a lot when I do anything for the first time. If you'd like, I could help you with your empathy, I learned on my own, and I know how hard it can be on you. I don't think its something that has to be handled without help if it's possible to get it.
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Can I borrow some guitar skills?
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I play guitar!! I'll send you some! I can't promise they'll be GOOD skills...but I'll do my best.

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I definitely welcome any help I can get. I honestly can't tell myself apart from the feelings unless it is extreme as stated above.
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I never broke empathy down into emotional, physical, or intellectual. From my experience, once I got any sort of results from empathy, it was all of them. When I do readings on something that happened, I could feel their emotions and physical pain, and receive their thoughts. I think it may have been broken down to help you concentrate on a specific area, it would be easier to do that than to take on empathy in it's entirety.





Its a really cool thing to borrow skills, I use it a lot when I do anything for the first time. If you'd like, I could help you with your empathy, I learned on my own, and I know how hard it can be on you. I don't think its something that has to be handled without help if it's possible to get it.
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Is empathy something that can be taught?
I never thought about that, as I was rather focused on figuring out how to switch it off, but I think it can.

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perhaps because I am doubting whether someone is actually "psychic" or just picking up on senses that are available inherently to everyone much better than the average joe.
IMO that is the same. Psychic abilities are inherently available to everybody. They might be easier to develop for some people than for others, but essentially it's just a matter of practice. We are all psychic.

If you feel pretentious calling yourself a psychic, this implies that you think being "psychic" is somehow better than not being, and then you are in separation.

You could try to acknowledge that we are all psychic, and that some have simply re-learned those skills more than others, then saying you're psychic is like saying "I am good at strategic thinking", nothing more, nothing less.

Labels can become limiting, but at first, when you are not fully at peace with who you are yet, they can be very freeing and empowering.
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Labels can become limiting, but at first, when you are not fully at peace with who you are yet, they can be very freeing and empowering.
That is a great way to put it.

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I definitely welcome any help I can get. I honestly can't tell myself apart from the feelings unless it is extreme as stated above.
Great, we can go over some exercises
At first, all the emotions just mix with your's, it is extremely confusing and the confusion with an extreme negative emotion makes it kind of easy to become depressed. It's also hard to tell when you are picking up on a positive emotion or just got a kick of endorphins. Although you don't tend to question anything good. When we get started, you'll want to read people
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Now we know we are empath. So what will you do to bring up this ability? Do you follow any methods? I feel it is scattered for me, so i need to train myself.

I have mine basic method, trial and error. Which is for my whole life. But i think now i should adapt some more techniques and go with them. It is interesting. What do you think??
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Hello momo3bur,

Now we know we are empath. So what will you do to bring up this ability? Do you follow any methods? I feel it is scattered for me, so i need to train myself.

I have mine basic method, trial and error. Which is for my whole life. But i think now i should adapt some more techniques and go with them. It is interesting. What do you think??
Hmmmm...I don't know. I've just recently come to terms with the empath thing. I do know that now I'll be able to recognize signs, like needing to cry while I wait for a funeral procession on the road full of people I don't know. That's been a big thing, being upset for reasons that seem ridiculous. haha. Last time I pulled over for a funeral driving through town, my friend was in the car with me and she didn't know what to do because I became upset. She was like, "do you know them? are you ok?" Of course, I didn't know them. I do that almost everytime! Now I'm glad at least I know why and it's not because I'm some overemotional biddy. However, it's still scattered for me as well.

I think the biggest thing at this time will be to learn to recognize others' feelings and thought processes over my own so that things don't become too overwhelming anymore.

Does that seem like a reasonable plan? lol. I really don't know where else to go with it other than control it. I suppose it does really help on the intellectual side to counsel friends because you tend have a deep understanding of their thoughts. Even if you just help them sort out their thoughts so that they can see them from a different prospective. But other than this, I'm not really sure what to do!! ahh!
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