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Old 02-21-2011, 07:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello everyone,

I've been practicing and trying hard to develop my ability to project. Its only been about 3 weeks but I've had some interesting experiences so far.

When I enter a deep state of meditation and focused awareness my eyes will start vibrating, it starts off slowly and rapidly becomes more intense almost to the point of eye strain, if i will allow it. Seconds later the vibrations will start to spread throughout my entire body and at this point my mind seems to enter a state of elevated awareness. This is as far as I've gotten so far. I'm looking for others who have had similar experiences, please share and confirm with me that this is what it is!

I also had something odd happen in a dream (maybe it wasnt?). It started as a woman entering my fathers house and she started asking me questions, this dream felt unusually real and not as outlandish as many of my other dreams. I conversed with the woman briefly and denied to give her information she asked. Next thing i remember all i can see is a surrounding white light and a blue circle in the middle with sparks coming out, I seemed to be very aware and conscious at this moment but the experience was becoming too strange and I forcefully awakened myself

Does anyone have any ideas on what the blue circle with sparks might have been? I'm open to ideas, suggestions and your experiences, PLEASE share if you will!
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Old 02-22-2011, 01:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Really? Nobody can relate or provide some insight or share ANY experiences?

Perhaps I'm in the wrong place. I may have been deceived by the large number of members on this forum
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Old 02-22-2011, 05:42 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi Bluesparks! I can't really help with the white light with the blue circle, but maybe this was you seeing a physical energy that you projected relating to protecting your father?

As far as astral projection, I've had very like experiences to your own. I haven't tried in a week or so because I felt like I was getting nowhere, but I plan on doing it tonight. What will happen with me is I will get into a very deep meditation and the vibrating will start in my feet. It's very intense to the point of even being a distraction at times. When I can get past the vibrations distracting me, my limbs will become very heavy and I'm unable to move them without great effort. Once the intense buzzing reaches my head and face, I will then try to project myself. I will feel as if I'm being pulled out of myself at times by my shoulder. Sometimes I feel like I'm sitting up or rolling over, but of course my physical body is still lying down. There have been a couple of instances where it feels like my limbs are floating upward. lol. Once I had sort of tunnel vision and the end of the tunnel I could see a beautiful meadow. I've not been able to fully project yet and be aware of it, but these trials are often followed by very vivid, realistic dreams.

I'll try tonight and let you know how it goes. Please keep posting here!! I'd love to see how you're getting along!

Thanks!!
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don't worry you are in the right place.

These experiences make us very excited when they are new, it's a good way to stimulate us to think in different ways.

You will notice in the beginning every detail and question it, but it'll become very normal.
If we are new to something we look skeptical at every bit, just to make fun of ourselves later.

There lies potential for the most amazing experiences you can do, so you might want to embrace the changes

When it comes to altering consciousness states everything can happen.

I had experiences that paralyzed me with fear.
But now I've no fear at all, even your physical body is an energy form, just more "tense", so everything is somehow the same.

Good success.

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Old 02-22-2011, 05:27 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Thank you for replying! What I'm getting at here is everyone is different when they project so the vibrations start at their strongest chakra, right? Momo's may be the feet which is why the vibrations start there for her, mine's in the head, but somebody else's could be in the stomach or throat, right? I know there are actual names for these different chakras but i understand there are 7 of them and are each in a different part of the body.

Aside from that, I seem to have trouble progressing sometimes because of my breathing. Sometimes I'm so deeply concentrated and focused that I literally forget to breathe and then I catch myself and have to shift my awareness. It really kills my focus and I really don't know what to do different.
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Thank you for replying! What I'm getting at here is everyone is different when they project so the vibrations start at their strongest chakra, right? Momo's may be the feet which is why the vibrations start there for her, mine's in the head, but somebody else's could be in the stomach or throat, right? I know there are actual names for these different chakras but i understand there are 7 of them and are each in a different part of the body.

Aside from that, I seem to have trouble progressing sometimes because of my breathing. Sometimes I'm so deeply concentrated and focused that I literally forget to breathe and then I catch myself and have to shift my awareness. It really kills my focus and I really don't know what to do different.
I've done that before with the breathing, also. It's frustrating! lol. We HAVE to breathe!!

I tried last night and I got really deep. The vibrations started toe up and head down this time. like they were working their way to the middle. And this continued for a long while until I started feeling intensing pricking at my feet, my hands, and my lips. Involuntary movement and twitching started and became quite violent at one point. Then I started hearing a very loud hissing sound or maybe a high pitched buzzing that made my head feel like it was full. I also heard voices this time, so I know I am RIGHT THERE!!! I just can't get past this point. It's like I can't disconnect my brain from my human body. It will almost feel at times that everything else on me is floating above me but my head is still stuck on the pillow.

For me the waves of energy will be the big distractor, along with the breathing. It's like you are jolted back into a state of being more awake than asleep and it's hard to get back into the sleepy zone.

Summerbreeze has a whole thread on astral projection and lucid dreaming, I think. I'm trying to find it and when I do I'll post the link.
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Old 02-23-2011, 06:58 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Momo, wow!! I can definitely relate to everything you described, the twitching, vibrations and the really loud buzzing sounds I have experienced all of these too! I'm excited for you that you've heard voices you seem to be one step ahead of me as I have not heard anything like that yet. It seems we are learning at the same pace so I am grateful and excited that we can share similar experiences!

Please keep me updated as you progress, I would love to hear about it!

I have one question for you though, do you experience rapid eye movement too?
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Momo, wow!! I can definitely relate to everything you described, the twitching, vibrations and the really loud buzzing sounds I have experienced all of these too! I'm excited for you that you've heard voices you seem to be one step ahead of me as I have not heard anything like that yet. It seems we are learning at the same pace so I am grateful and excited that we can share similar experiences!

Please keep me updated as you progress, I would love to hear about it!

I have one question for you though, do you experience rapid eye movement too?
That's awesome!! I'm so glad I saw your post so I can share the quest! It's very exciting! lol.

And YES!! Rapid eye movement is a big one too! Sometimes it's accompanied with pictures, colors, patterns, etc.

This has been very validating for me and a sincerely thank you for creating this thread! I can't wait to try again tonight because I'm feeling much more like I'm on the right track. One thing I did read earlier was to make sure you give yourself a specific destination before starting. I'm not sure if it's true or if it will help, but I'm going to try! lol. Maybe this will help our minds stay somewhat focused and give our astral bodies an agenda of some sort. I dunno!
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The first thing to know is that this will take time, diligence, perserverance, and so on. Also understand that when you journey into these realms, you often get more than you may have planned on. This is a good thing, but it can also be difficult, so I agree with summerbreeze that you should embrace changes.

Ok, the vibrations. These are common early on. To my best interpretation, they tend to be common in beginners, and they tend to fade with more practice. I think the vibrations are an early way of helping us recognize a source of energy we have never used consciously. The key is to embrace them, accept them, but not let them distract you from your purpose, which is to project. Keep visualizing the projection.

Again, realize learning this skill takes time. I practiced for months before having my first OBE. And strangely, it happened involuntarily after months of meditating and practicing. After that first OBE, I progressively got better and better, getting further away from my body and learning how to control movement. It was inch by inch, though. Each OBE showed me something new, challenged me in a new way.

As far as the light, blue circles, and spots go . . . I can only guess. My intuition makes me think it was a clue. When we project, we tend to imagine our bodily forms. We may think of ourselves somewhat like a ghost with arms, legs, and all that. Something I've worked on is imagining my form as something like the blue circle and surrounding light you described. Your subconscious may have been cluing you in to think about your "form" in a new way. One thing AP definitely teaches us is that we are not limited to our physical forms. We are often limited by how bodily our minds are. We get out of body and want to see what our "astral bodies" can do. But what if we're more effective just being a ball of energy when we project, not a "body"?

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This is the only source I could find online making any mention of the circle with sparks I saw.

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As per Robert Monroe in Journeys Out of the Body: "The vibrational sensory effect was the single consistent symptom throughout the Beginning Stage. However, it appeared to be evolutionary. The early vibrations seemed to be rough, sometimes accompanied by a visual image of a localized ring of electrical "sparks."

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Sadly the author doesn't elaborate more on this phenomena so I guess I'll just have to keep digging for more information. I have met one other person on a different online community who experienced this too.

I did a bit of practicing last night, it went well I can initiate the vibrations and enter a state of heightened awareness at my discretion now. I decided though to take a step back and refine my focus and concentration skills instead of going for the full projection, so I'll be doing that for a while until I'm satisfied with the results. One thing I'm trying to learn is how to separate the 2 consciouses, the voluntary and involuntary so that breathing will occur naturally(which it does, but I've become too aware) and I won't have to use any focus and energy on it anymore. Does that make sense?

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This is the only source I could find online making any mention of the circle with sparks I saw.

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Astral Projection and Vibrations:
As per Robert Monroe in Journeys Out of the Body: "The vibrational sensory effect was the single consistent symptom throughout the Beginning Stage. However, it appeared to be evolutionary. The early vibrations seemed to be rough, sometimes accompanied by a visual image of a localized ring of electrical "sparks."

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Astral Voyage - Astral Projection - Vibrations

Sadly the author doesn't elaborate more on this phenomena so I guess I'll just have to keep digging for more information. I have met one other person on a different online community who experienced this too.
I found further mention of the "circle with electricity" phenomena in a book written about kundalini by Gopi Krishna here is the quote "Whenever I closed my eyes I found myself looking into a weird circle of light, in which luminous currents swirled and eddied, moving rapidly from side to side. The spectacle was fascinating but awful, invested with a supernatural awe which sometimes chilled the very marrow in my bones."

I really can't believe no one else can speak more on this phenomena, being the paranormal forum after all. It must be quite rare because I cannot hardly find any mention of the phenomena at all on the internet. I just want to know what it was that I saw! The author mentions the sighting after an apparent chakra awakening, so I am guessing thats what I've done too being that it was a blue circle perhaps it was throat chakra? But it's exactly as the author, and another person I met described. Fascinating.... wish I knew more.
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