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I hardly think a species on the brink of 7 billion members is on the brink of extinction. Well some people think they've been visiting us periodically for a really long time. I know it's now 'old' but has anyone but me read "Chariots of the Gods"? Some even think that they intermingled with us. You know, knocked up some cute cave girls. We might be just some big laboratory. |
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I've been wondering about an analogy that would be applicable in this case so that we don't get off track. It's like the aliens are the special guest in the balcony seat of a theater. Someone comes on stage and makes an announcement about the special guests, and the spotlight goes to the balcony. Everyone has their response/reaction, the focus is temporarily on them. They might even make a short speech which transforms our upcoming experience of the on-going show. These special guests have been more like co-producers, helping with the production of the show behind the scenes, based on what the directors (human leaders) need. But they are here to see the show, not interfere with it, which in this case, is the transformation of human consciousness - that's what is on the center stage. And in this case, it's more like performance art where all the humans get to participate in the show interactively. Last edited by ChrisL; 02-11-2011 at 03:44 PM. |
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What are people's views on all the new alien-themed movies out at the moment? They all seem to promoting fear and panic on their arrival. Seems like they might be conditioning many to behave and think a particular way when they show up. x |
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TaoPath - It feels like there is a certain contingency of the population that enjoys making money/manipulating people on their most primal emotions. In this case, it can be fear of the unknown or something more powerful than humans. I've seen the same types of movies about 2012, end of the world by natural disaster, meteor, nuclear holocaust, being taken over by machines, you name it. And people are attracted to the level of consciousness that they are expressing at. For example, many times I've seen a movie that I really liked, that had something profound to say, only to see that the critics trashed it. But then a very gritty, gnarly, "in the streets" movie comes out that shows people struggling and barely making it, and the critics love it. It seems the worse someone is struggling, the critics love it. Perhaps that's how they feel about their lives - they want someone to feel pain because they feel so much pain. This happens all around us with our friends/loved ones/co-workers. And the way I see it, if there is an upside to that, is that it lets people feel some fear that might otherwise stay below the surface, like talking in group therapy about one person's issues that creates a trigger for us. Otherwise, movies like that tend to be more about making money and less about reality. |
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Chris: I feel the same. Money is a strange issue for me at the moment- how I relate to it and the ways it influences me. Or rather I should say, the energy I give it I tend to avoid media these days in general (tv and news) and only select the programs I really want to watch that make me laugh or think. I use to watch violence per se- but realised that as I was watching I felt really bad and disgusted. I like being aware as you have choices. I awoke to the influences of media over the past few months, and now it’s time for my food. Change is inevitable...how we deal with it is what matters. Simplicity is usually the best option imo X |
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I just think there are often reasons why brains may be “misbehaving” and it is, quite frankly, a little too easy to take a pill and cover it up. Looking within yourself to figure out why your thinking or functioning has shifted can be scary, and taking a pill seems like an easy solution that often times doesn’t get to the root of the issue. Instead, it masks the issue so you aren’t even aware of it anymore. I have thought that “misbehaving brains” are somehow related to paranormal/otherworldly activity for quite some time. It was only after my brain went haywire that I first experienced a “transcendent” state. It was all very similar to a near death experience, actually, only without the almost dying part…if that makes sense. That was the time in my life when I saw UFOs. More than once. Quote:
Learning through experience is more meaningful than learning something explicitly stated. You said earlier that you tend not to believe something until you have experienced it…or something similar. I’m not trying to twist your words here, so forgive me if I just did. I’m constantly learning new things just by thinking about them and paying attention to my environment, making mental notes of those things that jump out at me. Right now, I really don’t think aliens muck around with our genes. It seems more probable, and quite honestly more miraculous, that our genes have developed how they have through the small steps of evolution. If I start to notice “signs” or hints that point me in a different direction, then my mental path will be taking a very sharp turn. It’s happened to me before concerning other subjects. Through my own experiences and introspection, I believe in and trust the “aliens.” Learning to trust things and believing in things that can’t be proven…isn’t that called faith? Isn’t that what almost every religion preaches? I also don’t believe that the aliens are simply “watching” us, which is a pretty creepy concept. They are doing something, but nobody knows what. It’s the unknown, and many people fear the unknown. What is the common denominator in alien abduction stories? Missing time. Hazy memories. The unknown. It’s very sounds similar to death, actually… | |||
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The trouble with pills is, they numb everything, not just the bad bits. For some people, this allows them to tone things down to a more manageable level, and then sort things out. The goal shouldn't normally be to stay in that place though, but to really work with yourself and be able to get back off the meds at some point. And I agree, they're way too freely subscribed these days, just as doctors are way too "trigger happy" about diagnosing so-called mental disorders. |
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Well, I was on pills for a few years awhile back. Can't say they directly helped me develop or grow as a person, but they stopped me from blowing my brains out, which is something. They were an absolute godsend at the time, and I was eventually able to get to a point where I didn't need them anymore. As for doctors being " 'trigger happy' about diagnosing so-called mental disorders", I disagree. I think there were always people suffering from some degree of mental illness (whether biologically or environmentally triggered) who went undiagnosed (or were considered possessed). I also think there really are more people suffering from mental disorders today (both environmentally and biologically triggered) than at many times in the past. Quote:
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I think that doctors and pharmaceutical industries have a vested interest in selling drugs that aren't needed. No disagreement there. Many people would like to take a pill to solve all kinds of problems when they are simply reluctant to fully see themselves. Numbing out can be a serious problem, whether it's drugs, sex, overeating, drinking, video games, name your choice. And I do know some people that need to stay on meds just to function in the world because they have a chemical imbalance. No judgment, just their experience. Jane - We're in disagreement about overcoming fear, and I'm alright with that. Ultimately we have to face ourselves and move through whatever issues of fear/doubt that we have, but I've found in my life that it's enormously beneficial to have help from others (i.e. friends, mystics, therapists, coaches, teachers, online forums, etc) so that I can see my own blindspots and/or get support to move through a tough issue. For one thing, people tend to be harder on themselves when they go it alone. Also it's easier to fool ourselves. Relationships are a great litmus test to see if we're conflict-free or still have something we're projecting onto others. If I don't like being in relationships because I get triggered, or I can't stand something about someone else, I know I'm the one with an issue. And what if our conflict is actually not being able to ask for help from others? I recently worked with one client who felt so abused/neglected that he felt like he didn't trust anyone and had to do everything himself, because no one understood him or would be willing to support him. Just his direct experience from his past which he was projecting onto everyone now - normal stuff for everyone. We played a few times, and now he is actively asking for what he wants from all kinds of people and his business is taking off. It's like his perception on life has totally shifted. Could he have done all this by himself? Possibly, but he is 57 and hadn't done it by himself up until now. I'm immensely grateful for all the people who have helped me throughout my life, because it would have been a much rougher road without them. And just to be more clear about the upcoming announcement. This isn't going to be just a few human leaders making an announcement and that's it. Then we would still be wondering whether to believe them or not, just like now. When they do this, there will have to be a real "coming out", meaning you will have to be able to see the aliens, in physical form, see their spacecraft, etc - actual, physical evidence. There will also be more disclosure about all kinds of things, including human history and the aliens influence, because so many questions will want to be answered, including about any fear-based issues like abductions, etc. And there will still be people who don't believe it even after all that. There are plenty of people who would discount seeing a UFO if it landed on their house, and there will be more public people that will come out (like Jimmy Carter did) and speak about their experiences to lend validity to the truth. It's funny how we might not believe something, but if a celebrity that we trust tells us something (i.e. Oprah, Ellen, a president, sports figure, etc) then we can be more inclined to believe it. Last edited by ChrisL; 02-16-2011 at 08:09 PM. |
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Is it too much of a stretch to think certain groups may form which, out of fear, try to attack the aliens? And is it not likely the aliens would have ample ways to defend themselves from such attacks? Maybe they have technology or abilities that quickly remove themselves from a mob, and no harm ever comes to the humans. How likely is it some of us find out our grandmother was from outer space? Quote:
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Rezzy - I'm in agreement with you, otherwise what's the point?! I was saying it for Jane to show that there will be physical evidence, not just someone else's word. Yes, just like there are always groups that have a certain intention or agenda, there will be some that are supportive and some that might see them as a threat. The aliens are not in any real danger whatsoever from us, and they aren't looking to hurt us either. And it's not going to be like West Side Story with an escalation of weapons on both sides. Like with any form of fear/prejudice (i.e. racial, sexual, etc), it takes a deeper understanding and a willingness to place ourselves in someone else's position, before we can move forward into greater cooperation. And we are going to have our hands full with our own transformation which the aliens will show that they have been supportive of for years. What no one has talked about it, is the expansion of human rights when this happens. For example, all of a sudden being gay or lesbian won't be such a big deal, and some strides will be taken to help everyone have equal rights. Arguing against a human, any human, not having the same rights as any other human will just seem beyond stupid at that point. It's not very likely that we'll discover our grandmother was from outer space, but it would be funny to discover some celebrities are, like in the movie Men in Black! Or our high school teacher! Too funny. The tales about mythical creatures that pre-date the Greek/Roman gods, were based on actual humans who had reached a certain level of consciousness, that could do any number of things, including some impressive shape-shifting to avoid being captured/killled. An ascended master can pretty much do whatever they want with matter, including their own bodies - and there is no need to hurt anyone else. So we humans are capable of eluding pain and death too, not just the aliens. There are plenty of masters around the planet who are also biding their time before becoming known. PS - I love the old joke - "Do you smoke after sex?" "I don't know, I never looked." Last edited by ChrisL; 02-16-2011 at 09:31 PM. |
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Bluth - When I asked in the Records about the timing, I got that it could be as soon as this spring (March), and anytime between then and the end of 2012. The Air Force official I chatted with said within 5 years. We'll see what really happens as timing is getting harder to pinpoint right now with so much changing. I wanted to start a thread about it to get discussion going before it happens.
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I'm having trouble grasping what they're purpose for coming our with this, since you said they've been for so long. So they make this announcement, okay we have aliens...now what? In all seriousness If this does come to pass, I hope they grant me superpowers...I'm not kidding either.. |
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We can make requests probably, but I don't think it's a good idea, if that requests are made by individuals for a collective. So they just might come back to show us the truth of many things. This would be my best guess, more like I would do from a higher position. ~sb | |
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Being directly told look, aliens exist. Life is pretty weird. …that seems to defeat the purpose. I think the purpose is to decide this for yourself, to defy logic, to believe in something just because you feel it, not because you see it. It’s like that phrase so commonly used, only flipped: “I’ll believe it when I see it.” I think the whole point is that you won’t be able to see it until you believe it. I mean, you said the whole point of an alien announcement would be to bring people together, right? To lesson fear, create peace. People already have the ability to come together, without such direct intervention as an alien announcement. The human race is learning and growing—I think aliens have interfered at some points—but I don’t think they plan on “unveiling” themselves and sitting down with us and saying “Look humans, here’s what’s really going on…” I think the whole point of being a human is to learn to be a human with all the other humans…then maybe we’ll be born as aliens. I don’t know. Do you know when I’ll finally, actually know? When I die. And after I die, I bet I’ll still find that there are areas of the universe I haven’t explored and don’t understand. Then I’ll go explore those places. I’ll go live there. Quote:
Some people claim that an alien announcement is inevitable. Look at the state the human race is in, they say. People say the same thing about the second coming. Or the devil. Whatever. As far back as history takes us, there have been drawings of “alien” beings and UFOs (if you interpret these drawings in this way). Christopher Columbus recorded a UFO sighting coming up out of the ocean as he journeyed to the Americas. UFOs are nothing new. What makes it seem so likely that now is the time for UFOs to unveil themselves? Look at the state the world is in, people say. The world has gone through some pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥ stages before. Empires have collapsed. The Aztec empire is done. The Greek empire is finished. What about the “American” empire? It will probably collapse. Such is life. A phrase I can’t use, however, is “such is death.” I don’t know what death is. And the people who have experienced it aren’t saying much…and the people who have experienced “abductions” don’t remember much… Quote:
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And yes, we all have the answers inside of us. We all want a deep acknowledgment. Real mysticism, not religion, helps us to see ourselves and find our own answers. I've experienced that consciousness is a continuum, and that amazing things happen all the time when we have less conflict, including being able to communicate with our spirit guides, use our intuition, etc. I think the point is to drop all beliefs in favor of having ever deeper direct, personal experiences of life. Quote:
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Thanks for being willing to interact so much! PS - It feels like you really want deeper answers, and if that's the case, you might want to read the "Akashic Records" thread, because we have covered quite a bit of information there that might help too. Last edited by ChrisL; 02-17-2011 at 04:06 AM. | ||||||
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Im very excited for this personally. I've never established what i could consider the typical alien contact. I've always had a deep fascination about it though. A bit like Magic. You know what i mean? Like theres something so intriguing about both of those concepts. And look at that! turns out they're both very real indeed. Love ya Chris! Butterfly kisses and honey hugs xxxxx rofl. |
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