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AngelPsychic444 · 06-06-2011, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Summerbreeze

This makes me sad AngelPsychic, just yesterday I played with the thought to move to a place with sea

~sb

Well....you could also do a session with ChrisL and find out where would be a good place for you to be these days, or ask where, from a spiritual point of view, you would do well to live, that would be a smart move. Many people these days are getting intuitive nudges from Spirit to relocate, follow those urges no matter what they are, or double check with a psychic before you make any big moves.

ChrisL · 06-14-2011, 02:42 PM

As much as I love to be near the ocean, some people are choosing to live on higher ground to avoid flooding from the melting polar regions, as well as to breathe cleaner air. If you live near the ocean, you might consider at least having a place on higher ground (i.e. friends, relatives) that you could go to if you need it. This is not as important right now as it will be within a few years.

An Update: We have another boost in consciousness coming - some of you might already be feeling it - around the week of summer solstice (Jun 20 - 26th). What does this mean in practical terms? You might have an integration of your life and shift perspective about what is happening. You might have some epiphanies about a current situation or where you have been conflicted in the past. Some conflict might come to the foreground so that you can resolved it. Relationships might be somewhat easier as people feel more grounded and internally validating. Life might feel somewhat easier because your perspective has shifted. Keep us posted on the Consciousness Shifting thread!

The alien announcement is still "on the table", meaning that there is a right timing factor to match with human consciousness. Collectively we could have released a lot more conflict by now and we have stubbornly held onto it - the shifting in the Middle East is an example. The more that we can shift collectively (i.e. human rights become integrated as a political reality) the more the timing is right for the announcement.

I wish I could see a more definite period of time for this because I know many people are wanting this to happen.

Summerbreeze · 06-14-2011, 05:32 PM

Maybe it's a good idea to combine water and mountains. I also heard about what's happening with melting, though I wasn't getting much reference to take it seriously in consideration where I live.

To the announcement; in the Ra Material (I just quickly read over) and in communications of other people was mentioned a sort of quarantine until the negative/positive energy threshold of 2012 - is someone familiar with this concept?

If I would have to bet on in it I also don't see it happen too early and more in stages, like getting to know something exists in the next years and then some years until open contact and before more on a individual basis.

~sb

royster · 06-14-2011, 05:44 PM

Hello, peoples.

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mentioned a sort of quarantine until the negative/positive energy threshold of 2012 - is someone familiar with this concept?

That information was actually pre-internet. According to ArchAngel Michael (and other sources), that quarantine has slowly been lifted, in direct response (and reaction to) the rising awareness of the planet.

In other words, YOU helped make that possible with your courage to evolve. Nice job! ;D

lifeisreal · 06-30-2011, 08:18 AM

cant wait to meet the aliens and teach us their knowledge and travel the stars

Yosep · 06-30-2011, 08:34 AM

It's always about "it will come".

Professor Tab Brown · 06-30-2011, 09:20 AM

woah!!! that is probably the best footage ive ever seen of UFO sightings!

The way it just shoots up so quick.. and it looks like maybe that white ball was a small capsule or something that then reshoots back into a larger craft.

Oceans · 06-30-2011, 01:54 PM

YouTube - ‪UFO Mothership & Fleet Over London UK 24th June 2011 (Credit alymc01) [HD]‬&rlm;

ChrisL · 06-30-2011, 02:56 PM

Thanks for posting this Oceans - I just watched it yesterday and wondered if anyone would post it in here. Regardless of whether this is real or not, it would be great if there were more public sightings as a buildup to the announcement.

Joebenz · 06-30-2011, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisL

Thanks for posting this Oceans - I just watched it yesterday and wondered if anyone would post it in here. Regardless of whether this is real or not, it would be great if there were more public sightings as a buildup to the announcement.

It would make sense for them to show up gradually. If they appear everywhere in the world in a day, it would be panic.

Rezzy7 · 06-30-2011, 10:50 PM

Thanks for the link Ocean.
It would be cool to have a ramp up of increased sightings. Skeptics and denyers will insist they're not real even if there are way more sightings, but it could help to buffer the announce. One could point back to the many sightings as a sort of rationalization that the announcement kind of makes sense after that.

Yosep · 07-01-2011, 12:54 AM

I'd love to see the footage although my computer is too slow.

Most youtube vids of ufos I've seen were no doubt hoaxes...a few mysteries for sure, I believe there is something out there.

I've done tons of video work and seen what editing can do, it's a joke. Sadly people spend time creating this and people actually believe it.

I love the idea of meeting aliens and seeing their crafts. But everything I've seen is hype, forgetable anticipation, or stuff that could be the army. Lots of waste of time is available on the internet, unfortunately.

The word "announcement" excites and creates a grand image in people's heads. It's been articulated for ages.

Im definitely open to receive alien species around and exchange. I keep saying it though...you gotta realise and understand our planet, our life, our existence, and find yourself close to this nature around you and appreciate it as you live through it fully. A lifetime is just barely enough to taste it all and feel one with it.

Professor Tab Brown · 07-01-2011, 02:47 AM

I find this video interesting to watch...

This morning i was reading [I]something is out there which is a paranormal/UFO book written by some aussies and they did a story on the famous UFO sightings in Clayton (Melbourne) in 1966.. and there were heaps of witness accounts and many of them stated exactly what was in this video... they said they saw a larger disked shap that would morph in thickness.. so it would go kind of thin.. and then fatter in shape (like it was rotating on its side?) and it was accompanied by several smaller rounded ones.. just like on this video

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Originally Posted by Oceans

YouTube - ‪UFO Mothership & Fleet Over London UK 24th June 2011 (Credit alymc01) [HD]‬&rlm;

Joebenz · 07-01-2011, 09:36 AM

What's even more strange is that there are multiple videos of the same event, and yet one of them is, i hate to use that word but oh well, fake!
To maybe discredit the other real vids. Just like what happened for the ufo videos in jerusalem.

Rezzy7 · 07-01-2011, 12:31 PM

What's weird to me in that London video, knowing plenty about lenses and light, the larger object somewhat resembles a light reflection from lens flare except for one major difference: it moves independently, rather than in relation to the movement of the camera/lens.

It would be funny if aliens do come out, and later they tell us they have nothing that actually looks like the objects we've seen, and they just did that to mess with us!

(Like, maybe they wanted to stop in and get a taco, so they made a distraction in the sky, and while everyone was looking up...)

I know the timing must be "right" but in a way this is like waiting for the right time to rip off a BAND-AID®.

ChrisL · 07-01-2011, 05:02 PM

Yosep - I'm in agreement with you. The main reason I started this thread in the first place was to highlight the human experience, to gain more understanding and appreciation of ourselves, to see everyone and everything as sacred.

There is a poem from the Sufi poet Hafiz, and part of it goes

"Where does the real poetry come from? Where does poetry live? In the overpowering felt splendor every sane mind knows, when it realizes our life dance is only for a few magic seconds, from the heart shouting "I am so damn alive!"

Professor and Joe - It's pretty common to make fake videos that accompany real videos to discredit the original ones. Been happening for awhile, but doesn't discount the real occurences of course!

Rezzy - Maybe the larger craft WAS the Taco Stand, and the smaller ones were just going through the "drive thru"?

Everyone - The London videos were somewhat interesting for me, because the last time I saw people looking up into the London sky like that, was during WWII when the fighter/bombers were over London. Don't think the people need to worry about being attacked this time around.

Harmonium · 07-01-2011, 08:38 PM

What makes you sure that we don't need to be worried about being attacked/manipulated?

Have you read this guys site: Discerning Alien Disinformation: Part 1 - Alien Agenda and what do you think?

He seems a bit paranoid, but I won't write him off for that. I enjoy his other material.

Rezzy7 · 07-02-2011, 01:36 AM

haha ChrisL! yeah! A space drive thru.

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Originally Posted by Harmonium

What makes you sure that we don't need to be worried about being attacked/manipulated?

For myself, I can't know for sure, but I just have the sense that they're here to help. If I'm way wrong and it turns out the aliens just kill me, well, what could I have done anyway? they have better weapons.

lifeisreal · 07-03-2011, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rezzy7

haha ChrisL! yeah! A space drive thru.
For myself, I can't know for sure, but I just have the sense that they're here to help. If I'm way wrong and it turns out the aliens just kill me, well, what could I have done anyway? they have better weapons.

we need to strap up our best guns but i have a feeling they are good aliens and if they would destroy us they would of done so awhile ago

Joebenz · 07-03-2011, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lifeisreal

we need to strap up our best guns but i have a feeling they are good aliens and if they would destroy us they would of done so awhile ago

Or maybe they are studying us right now and have a big plan to invade us in the near future

ChrisL · 07-05-2011, 03:45 PM

Harmonium - I've stated this previously in this thread, which is that I haven't seen any evidence in the Records to support some kind of massive attack/covert abductions/take over the world plan. And every person that I've personally worked with who has said they were abducted, had some other issue going on (i.e. father sexually abused them, etc).

And Lifeisreal has a point - since human contact with aliens has happened in all our previous global civilizations, which stretches back to tens of thousands of years ago, why haven't they already polished us off? If they have the technology to create amazing crop circles and sacred designs, why haven't they blown us up? There have even been periods of history where we have consciously intermingled with our off-world visitors, such as those from Pleiedes and Orion, to help advance our scientific/technological understanding.

The aliens that will make themselves public are here to witness our tranformation into the unification stage of human consciousness. Mystics have said for ages "Nothing has power over you unless you want it to" - essentially we are sovereign beings. If we have internal conflict about anything being more powerful than us - aliens, government, your spouse, your parents, religion - then that fear is what needs to be addressed and resolved.

Joebenz · 07-05-2011, 04:14 PM

Just out of curiosity, i don't know if this has been awnsered here, but the ones who willl come forward, what do they look like? are they the greys, human like or... else?

and will they come forward when that unification stage will be "completed"?

ChrisL · 07-05-2011, 04:26 PM

Joe - Thanks for asking. We've talked about it before, but they will look more humanoid in form. My interpretation on their "coming out" timing will be before the completion of the unification. Partly this will be so that it will help those who don't have another resource (i.e. spiritual program, a group that they belong to which can help them now, etc) to be able to identify with something that can help them make the transition easier, and partly because they want to witness the crossover.

Once the announcement is made, the "cat is out of the bag" so to speak, so ongoing contact and more information will be continuously available, and the announcement itself will help shift some people into higher consciousness, or at least motivate them to start searching deeper.

Joebenz · 07-05-2011, 04:50 PM

Will we be able to go in their craft and visit their home?

veloci · 07-05-2011, 04:55 PM

Yes, this means I get to meet the Pleadians again. Maybe they'll remember me! lol, it will be funny to me if some Pleadians go "Hey, we remember you! You wanted to go to Earth for [such and such]." I will go "I know I incarnated first in the Pleadies. I don't remember anything other than this lifetime. Could you tell me what I did as a Pleadian?"

lol, I would totally enjoy the conversation!

ChrisL · 07-05-2011, 05:04 PM

Joe - Can you imagine an alien 'barnstormer' charging money for spacecraft rides like at a carnival! ha!

There will be some people that will want to just hop on a spacecraft and get outta here, just to get away from the craziness that is happening and have a new start. The downside of that is that our physical body's will still die, and we will have to keep incarnating into bodies - whether that means a human body or some other type of physical form.

The upside of staying here and releasing our conflict, then choosing to ascend the physical form, is that we don't have to incarnate into a physical form again. We can if we want to, but it's not necessary.

veloci · 07-05-2011, 05:50 PM

What you are saying means I can remain in this physical form for the remainder of my soul's journey?! Heck yea I'll keep that.

Joebenz · 07-05-2011, 06:03 PM

Are you talking about eternal life?

ChrisL · 07-05-2011, 06:55 PM

Joe - Our soul is eternal and our body's are on an evolutionary journey which culminates in their ascension to become a soul on their own. Once we have ascended a physical form, we (our soul) can choose to shift our shape into any of the previous physical forms that the ascended body has already evolved from (i.e. mineral, animal, human), we can choose to incarnate again through the birthing process, or we can move onto another solar system for another adventure.

If death is a response and not an event, then we can choose to live in our bodies for quite a long time, and once ascended, indefinitely. There are ascended masters on the planet right now that are thousands of years old, just like there are some people that only have 1 lifetime here.

Veloci - Remember that we have other lifetimes happening as well, so that even if you ascend this particular body, chances are that you have other lifetimes where you are dying the physical form and incarnating again. And yes, if you ascend now, the body which becomes a soul, goes off to have it's own adventures, and you (the soul), could use the imprint of that ascended form, to choose whatever physical form that the body has taken, for as long as you wish.

veloci · 07-05-2011, 07:03 PM

I understand now. I have heard a lot of stuff about 2012 regarding ascension. I think everybody will be moving into the 4/5th dimension. If this is true, then we would all be ascending and thus many of us will be able to continue remaining in this physical form for a long while then, right?

06-14-2011, 05:32 PM	#393 (permalink)
Summerbreeze Retired Join Date: May 2010 Location: Europe Posts: 1,222	Maybe it's a good idea to combine water and mountains. I also heard about what's happening with melting, though I wasn't getting much reference to take it seriously in consideration where I live. To the announcement; in the Ra Material (I just quickly read over) and in communications of other people was mentioned a sort of quarantine until the negative/positive energy threshold of 2012 - is someone familiar with this concept? If I would have to bet on in it I also don't see it happen too early and more in stages, like getting to know something exists in the next years and then some years until open contact and before more on a individual basis. ~sb Last edited by Summerbreeze; 06-14-2011 at 05:37 PM.

07-01-2011, 05:02 PM	#406 (permalink)
ChrisL Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: US Posts: 781	Yosep - I'm in agreement with you. The main reason I started this thread in the first place was to highlight the human experience, to gain more understanding and appreciation of ourselves, to see everyone and everything as sacred. There is a poem from the Sufi poet Hafiz, and part of it goes "Where does the real poetry come from? Where does poetry live? In the overpowering felt splendor every sane mind knows, when it realizes our life dance is only for a few magic seconds, from the heart shouting "I am so damn alive!" Professor and Joe - It's pretty common to make fake videos that accompany real videos to discredit the original ones. Been happening for awhile, but doesn't discount the real occurences of course! Rezzy - Maybe the larger craft WAS the Taco Stand, and the smaller ones were just going through the "drive thru"? Everyone - The London videos were somewhat interesting for me, because the last time I saw people looking up into the London sky like that, was during WWII when the fighter/bombers were over London. Don't think the people need to worry about being attacked this time around. Last edited by ChrisL; 07-01-2011 at 05:04 PM.

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06-14-2011, 02:42 PM	#392 (permalink)
ChrisL Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: US Posts: 781	As much as I love to be near the ocean, some people are choosing to live on higher ground to avoid flooding from the melting polar regions, as well as to breathe cleaner air. If you live near the ocean, you might consider at least having a place on higher ground (i.e. friends, relatives) that you could go to if you need it. This is not as important right now as it will be within a few years. An Update: We have another boost in consciousness coming - some of you might already be feeling it - around the week of summer solstice (Jun 20 - 26th). What does this mean in practical terms? You might have an integration of your life and shift perspective about what is happening. You might have some epiphanies about a current situation or where you have been conflicted in the past. Some conflict might come to the foreground so that you can resolved it. Relationships might be somewhat easier as people feel more grounded and internally validating. Life might feel somewhat easier because your perspective has shifted. Keep us posted on the Consciousness Shifting thread! The alien announcement is still "on the table", meaning that there is a right timing factor to match with human consciousness. Collectively we could have released a lot more conflict by now and we have stubbornly held onto it - the shifting in the Middle East is an example. The more that we can shift collectively (i.e. human rights become integrated as a political reality) the more the timing is right for the announcement. I wish I could see a more definite period of time for this because I know many people are wanting this to happen.

06-30-2011, 08:18 AM	#395 (permalink)
lifeisreal Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 4	cant wait to meet the aliens and teach us their knowledge and travel the stars

06-30-2011, 08:34 AM	#396 (permalink)
Yosep Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 64	It's always about "it will come".

06-30-2011, 09:20 AM	#397 (permalink)
Professor Tab Brown Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 11	woah!!! that is probably the best footage ive ever seen of UFO sightings! The way it just shoots up so quick.. and it looks like maybe that white ball was a small capsule or something that then reshoots back into a larger craft.

06-30-2011, 01:54 PM	#398 (permalink)
Oceans Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 428	YouTube - ‪UFO Mothership & Fleet Over London UK 24th June 2011 (Credit alymc01) [HD]‬&rlm;

06-30-2011, 02:56 PM	#399 (permalink)
ChrisL Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: US Posts: 781	Thanks for posting this Oceans - I just watched it yesterday and wondered if anyone would post it in here. Regardless of whether this is real or not, it would be great if there were more public sightings as a buildup to the announcement.

06-30-2011, 10:50 PM	#401 (permalink)
Rezzy7 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: West Coast USA Posts: 783	Thanks for the link Ocean. It would be cool to have a ramp up of increased sightings. Skeptics and denyers will insist they're not real even if there are way more sightings, but it could help to buffer the announce. One could point back to the many sightings as a sort of rationalization that the announcement kind of makes sense after that.

07-01-2011, 12:54 AM	#402 (permalink)
Yosep Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 64	I'd love to see the footage although my computer is too slow. Most youtube vids of ufos I've seen were no doubt hoaxes...a few mysteries for sure, I believe there is something out there. I've done tons of video work and seen what editing can do, it's a joke. Sadly people spend time creating this and people actually believe it. I love the idea of meeting aliens and seeing their crafts. But everything I've seen is hype, forgetable anticipation, or stuff that could be the army. Lots of waste of time is available on the internet, unfortunately. The word "announcement" excites and creates a grand image in people's heads. It's been articulated for ages. Im definitely open to receive alien species around and exchange. I keep saying it though...you gotta realise and understand our planet, our life, our existence, and find yourself close to this nature around you and appreciate it as you live through it fully. A lifetime is just barely enough to taste it all and feel one with it.

07-01-2011, 09:36 AM	#404 (permalink)
Joebenz Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 134	What's even more strange is that there are multiple videos of the same event, and yet one of them is, i hate to use that word but oh well, fake! To maybe discredit the other real vids. Just like what happened for the ufo videos in jerusalem.

07-01-2011, 12:31 PM	#405 (permalink)
Rezzy7 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: West Coast USA Posts: 783	What's weird to me in that London video, knowing plenty about lenses and light, the larger object somewhat resembles a light reflection from lens flare except for one major difference: it moves independently, rather than in relation to the movement of the camera/lens. It would be funny if aliens do come out, and later they tell us they have nothing that actually looks like the objects we've seen, and they just did that to mess with us! (Like, maybe they wanted to stop in and get a taco, so they made a distraction in the sky, and while everyone was looking up...) I know the timing must be "right" but in a way this is like waiting for the right time to rip off a BAND-AID®.

07-01-2011, 08:38 PM	#407 (permalink)
Harmonium Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: test Posts: 424	What makes you sure that we don't need to be worried about being attacked/manipulated? Have you read this guys site: Discerning Alien Disinformation: Part 1 - Alien Agenda and what do you think? He seems a bit paranoid, but I won't write him off for that. I enjoy his other material.

07-05-2011, 03:45 PM	#411 (permalink)
ChrisL Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: US Posts: 781	Harmonium - I've stated this previously in this thread, which is that I haven't seen any evidence in the Records to support some kind of massive attack/covert abductions/take over the world plan. And every person that I've personally worked with who has said they were abducted, had some other issue going on (i.e. father sexually abused them, etc). And Lifeisreal has a point - since human contact with aliens has happened in all our previous global civilizations, which stretches back to tens of thousands of years ago, why haven't they already polished us off? If they have the technology to create amazing crop circles and sacred designs, why haven't they blown us up? There have even been periods of history where we have consciously intermingled with our off-world visitors, such as those from Pleiedes and Orion, to help advance our scientific/technological understanding. The aliens that will make themselves public are here to witness our tranformation into the unification stage of human consciousness. Mystics have said for ages "Nothing has power over you unless you want it to" - essentially we are sovereign beings. If we have internal conflict about anything being more powerful than us - aliens, government, your spouse, your parents, religion - then that fear is what needs to be addressed and resolved.

07-05-2011, 04:14 PM	#412 (permalink)
Joebenz Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 134	Just out of curiosity, i don't know if this has been awnsered here, but the ones who willl come forward, what do they look like? are they the greys, human like or... else? and will they come forward when that unification stage will be "completed"?

07-05-2011, 04:26 PM	#413 (permalink)
ChrisL Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: US Posts: 781	Joe - Thanks for asking. We've talked about it before, but they will look more humanoid in form. My interpretation on their "coming out" timing will be before the completion of the unification. Partly this will be so that it will help those who don't have another resource (i.e. spiritual program, a group that they belong to which can help them now, etc) to be able to identify with something that can help them make the transition easier, and partly because they want to witness the crossover. Once the announcement is made, the "cat is out of the bag" so to speak, so ongoing contact and more information will be continuously available, and the announcement itself will help shift some people into higher consciousness, or at least motivate them to start searching deeper.

07-05-2011, 04:50 PM	#414 (permalink)
Joebenz Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 134	Will we be able to go in their craft and visit their home?

07-05-2011, 04:55 PM	#415 (permalink)
veloci Retired Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 978	Yes, this means I get to meet the Pleadians again. Maybe they'll remember me! lol, it will be funny to me if some Pleadians go "Hey, we remember you! You wanted to go to Earth for [such and such]." I will go "I know I incarnated first in the Pleadies. I don't remember anything other than this lifetime. Could you tell me what I did as a Pleadian?" lol, I would totally enjoy the conversation!

07-05-2011, 05:04 PM	#416 (permalink)
ChrisL Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: US Posts: 781	Joe - Can you imagine an alien 'barnstormer' charging money for spacecraft rides like at a carnival! ha! There will be some people that will want to just hop on a spacecraft and get outta here, just to get away from the craziness that is happening and have a new start. The downside of that is that our physical body's will still die, and we will have to keep incarnating into bodies - whether that means a human body or some other type of physical form. The upside of staying here and releasing our conflict, then choosing to ascend the physical form, is that we don't have to incarnate into a physical form again. We can if we want to, but it's not necessary.

07-05-2011, 05:50 PM	#417 (permalink)
veloci Retired Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 978	What you are saying means I can remain in this physical form for the remainder of my soul's journey?! Heck yea I'll keep that.

07-05-2011, 06:03 PM	#418 (permalink)
Joebenz Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 134	Are you talking about eternal life?

07-05-2011, 06:55 PM	#419 (permalink)
ChrisL Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: US Posts: 781	Joe - Our soul is eternal and our body's are on an evolutionary journey which culminates in their ascension to become a soul on their own. Once we have ascended a physical form, we (our soul) can choose to shift our shape into any of the previous physical forms that the ascended body has already evolved from (i.e. mineral, animal, human), we can choose to incarnate again through the birthing process, or we can move onto another solar system for another adventure. If death is a response and not an event, then we can choose to live in our bodies for quite a long time, and once ascended, indefinitely. There are ascended masters on the planet right now that are thousands of years old, just like there are some people that only have 1 lifetime here. Veloci - Remember that we have other lifetimes happening as well, so that even if you ascend this particular body, chances are that you have other lifetimes where you are dying the physical form and incarnating again. And yes, if you ascend now, the body which becomes a soul, goes off to have it's own adventures, and you (the soul), could use the imprint of that ascended form, to choose whatever physical form that the body has taken, for as long as you wish.

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07-05-2011, 07:03 PM	#420 (permalink)
veloci Retired Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 978	I understand now. I have heard a lot of stuff about 2012 regarding ascension. I think everybody will be moving into the 4/5th dimension. If this is true, then we would all be ascending and thus many of us will be able to continue remaining in this physical form for a long while then, right?