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Old 05-03-2011, 04:47 PM   #361 (permalink)
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What would happen if the aliens show up, but they're just a bunch of stoned alien kids on a joyride in their parents' ship.
What do you think the crashed UFO's are? xD

In all seriousness, I'm very curious about these ETs. I'd like to meet one (assuming they are of a high vibration, of course).
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As far as I can remember the announcements are not about sharing New-Age ideas, they are about becoming open to the idea of encountering aliens, how everyone shares is in his/her choice.

It's probable that they indirectly help us realize how much power we are giving away as also how we are in charge of our lives.

Religions and science may suffer as we see the legitimacy of more technological and spiritual advanced societies and that these two aspects, which are classically separated (or even opposite in our society), can work in harmony.

Is it likely we stop fighting each other and trying to be right?

From the ways I talk with extraterrestrials, the best thing we can do is to be our glorious self - they don't care (in a positive way) what we are doing as long we are loving.
An analogy I can not clearly repeat is that if everybody would be his authentic self we would be in a healthy collective stream of being and evolution. The more people get into that mode, the bigger the river gets in which those streams of authentic selves go and the bigger is the possibility others join - in other words we are shifting into unification again, if we unify with our own core selves. A whole is more than the sum of its parts and that is triggering evolution and wellbeing.
Even when the open/loving people are in a minority, they are naturally working in synergies, so you need not many people to be okay with this idea to let us collectively shift irreversibly towards love and openness.

Expectations can block us, trusting the own intuition is the safest way it has far more wisdom than what we do cognitively with our brains.
I admit it is tempting to think that the fastest way between two points is a straight line, but it is linear, 'preboxed' thinking, which is not 'wrong', but not the best we can do.

Trusting you inner voice and following it consciously is a good description of what we should do to live a more self realized life.

I hope I wasn't too militant here, forgive me

I wonder if Steve will rename the page to "Personal Development for Smart People and Extraterrestrials". Just kidding we all already are

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JoeBenz - I actually know a guy who used to do that. Astral project to go take a look to see what they were doing in space. I'm sure there are other people on this forum who also do this.

Releasing our arrogance around science/religion to either invite a more direct, LuisSuarez - I can understand your concern Luis, so thanks for sharing. Let's talk about it. What is the worst that could happen as you see it? Where I live, we can't even get people in the same town/state to agree on local issues, so how many varied opinions do you think will happen around the world when this happens? And right now there are certain factions - corporations, religions, governments, etc - that don't want this kind of announcement to be made public because it is very much like seeing the "man behind the curtain" when they have vested interests in the status quo. What kind of New Age thinking do you think everyone will be converted toward? What kind of New World Order do you see happening because of this?

Thanks for being willing to play with this because there are other people who might be feeling/thinking the same things, but are less vocal about it.
Hi ChrisL,

Please forgive me for reading on. What I write below will be a clash of ideas and beliefs. I'll try to explain the best I can. I don't mean to cause any offence, just a different perspective to make you aware of, not necessarily take on board, just to be aware. Thanks.
There are many ideas branded around about what a New World Order, but the most common characteristics are outlined below:

- An establishment of a centralised Government with one overall leader.However, this will not be a form of public dictatorship, but more looked upon as a favourable democracy.
- The revelation of "benevolent" extra-terrestrial beings bringing forth their own ideas which humanity will accept.
- An incorporation of what we call a New Age movement or religion. This includes the doctrines of reincarnation, karma, higher selves, astral planes.

The reason why I have great fears is because of what has happened to me in the last month. I'm on a course of anti-depressants because to be honest, everything in the last sentence of the characteristics list has taken its toll. This site probably isn't the best place for me to be on, but I'll explain a little further.

I was in the majority of people's shoes here, willing to accept everything about various spiritual dimensions/realms, having past lives. I've mentioned it before that I woke up one morning with a real determination to look for an alternative. I don't know why. I've found that now, which I won't indulge here (well, not publicly anyway, but through PM if you're interested).

I'm on the other side of the coin now, so I've seen two sides to it. The Book of Revelations has written about a deception, false prophets, the Anti-Christ. The Bible is full of misinterpretations, so this too can be interpreted as many things. People have linked the increase in UFO and New Age discussions to the 'Deception'.

On a few conspiracy sites I visit, the best sources of information with links inside expect an increase in UFO activity, but it all depends on what we class as benevolent. I don't believe anymore that there are benevolent beings. I've used the film 'Close Encounters of the Third Kind' a lot in this thread, because it is the best example I can use. A race of 'benevolent' beings making themselves known to mankind. It's something that does not feel safe, even though it's probably more reliable than it being through a Government announcement. We'll pretty much accept them here. Yes, there are big gaps in our history which they may well fill in. There are other alien forces in the world which won't just sit back and watch.

A series of private discussions and consultations with others across the world in search of an alternate theory has led me to countless people with experiences in conflict to the above doctrines. It has led to a conclusion that no one knows about the spiritual realm with full accuracy. Every theory has flaws.

The New World Order that is commonly circulated with the above characteristics involves a general collectiveness that we are 'One'. It involves an increase in spiritual tools and resources to better the world we live in. We listen, we learn, we share. It brings about the potential end of capitalism toward a more socialistic view. This is not about materialism. Governments and corporations will be exposed. It's happening in the Middle East. I think the Western powers will be revealed throughout time, but I'd rather it be done through the hard work of human beings.

Religion is an enormous comfort to many. Yes, it causes wars and conflicts, but it also provides a way of dealing with loss of loved ones, showing basic values in an understandable manner. I don't see anything wrong with what religion teaches. We all have the same values, but they're said in a different way. Why lose the diversity? One says to lead a good life and treat others well in the name of God, the other says we must live with high vibrational frequencies to enhance global consciousness. One person might say the first sentence sounds like religous dogma. Another person might say the second sentence sounds like spiritual nonsense. See what I mean? The language people use frightens others. Intuition, consciousness, collective, inner selves versus God, 'love thy neighbour', Commandments, sin, Holy.

For example, there is strong evidence that Jesus Christ was an extra-terrestrial. Does that mean Christianity has to crumble? The core values can remain.

What the New World Order essentially does is eradicates individuality and replaces it with a Collective (the Borg) spiritually, emotionally, materialistically. Without diversity, what's the point in living?

What the point of this post is basically trying to point out is:

The beliefs and ideas of one group of people versus the beliefs and ideas of another group of people.

If ET's come down in the next 5-10 years as expected and tell me that reincarnation is real, it doesn't mean I will believe them. If they came down and said we didn't make Jesus Christ and he was actually what the Bible described him to be, I wouldn't believe them either.

Question everything. Question your beliefs, question your values, don't settle. This site in itself seems to be full of people citing the same things. Question it. Question sources, question your own thoughts and beliefs.

I feel the above is a mish mash of thoughts and feelings into one. I don't feel as though I've made my points too clearly without it sounding aggressive.Apologies once again ChrisL if it sounds like an attack on beliefs, cultures etc. I feel that people are looking at the whole thing through one eye. They believe they are seeing things wth both eyes, but in reality, there's a patch over one eye. I highly respect you because in my previous posts, I've sounded very opposite to your views, but you take it on board. Your comment 'Are we that asleep' people made me laugh.

Thanks for reading.
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Old 05-03-2011, 06:52 PM   #364 (permalink)
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Roswell is being confirmed as real. You can meet them anytime if you deeply want that without having conflict about it - let us know

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I was actually going to say Roswell, but decided to make it broader. :P

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AngelPsychic - Preparation? <Hopping up on soapbox>

The best preparation will be internal and impact us emotionally, intellectually, relationally and spiritually. Having a mature discussion so that we feel better prepared and less overwhelmed when this happens. And having discussions with those we're close with who are open to such things - many people are not.

We're having a tough time just seeing ourselves clearly right now, let alone making allowance for something as outrageous sounding as this, so we need to start with that: Releasing any conflicts that we hold onto - limiting beliefs, judgments, comparisons, blocked emotions, unresolved trauma, self-negating patterns, etc. Transforming any victim perspective (i.e. it's my parent's fault, my partner's, my kids, my government, my religion, media, etc) to understanding how we create/attract our circumstances based on our response or lack of it.

Getting more clarity, focus, so that we don't get so easily distracted - through whatever means works for you - meditation, music, community service, etc. If we could get more grounded in our bodies even that can shift our perspective.

If anyone out there has kids, you know how easy it is for them to dart around without being really grounded. Part of that is their age, part of it is lack of proper nutrition (the chemicals in our foods), and part of it is that we haven't been so responsible as parents and have let advertising/media/someone else basically define/show our kids and ourselves who we are. Without some kind of real guidance that can be experienced internally, people will look for anything to feel better and belong.

Releasing our arrogance around science/religion to either invite a more direct, personal experience or simply admit that we don't know and stay open. If we could care more about everyone collectively and not so much about just ourselves, we could hold corporations/governments more accountable, and that in itself would help make the transition easier.

Just like with our spirit guides and other humans, any real intuitive gifts will be a complete bonus in this upcoming time. Intuitive communication with them is a real possibility and one of the first forms of contact, and as they learn more of our social skills, verbal/written language will be more effective and used regularly. I'd encourage anyone who feels inclined to connect this way to explore in a balanced way.

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ChrisL,
Thanks for the long and very detailed answer, I agree with you 100%, you have a way of articulating all this that really brings everything to a head, so to speak. I like to take it in small steps but you encompassed the whole thing.... very good response!
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I have similar concerns as LuisSuarez, though he seems much more troubled about it. It does trouble me as well, but it's not productive no matter what way you look at it to obsess to the point of creating fear in yourself.

I'm definitely with you, question everything. I think it's very possible some ET's may want to enslave/corrupt humanity for their own gain, but at this point, I also think that's already happened and maybe the peak of suffering:living ratio is already optimally maxed out, assuming our aunguish is what some of them may feed off of. I think there is only a certain extent this can happen, we probably have to voluntarily hand them our free will. My concern is, what if humanity as a collective mostly hands over their freewill? Do the rest of us go with them? Deep down, I don't think so.

So, yeah, when you read so much on certain negative topics, you can intoxicate yourself with negative emotions. Just think, if something drastic DOES happen, if you are being negative you are gonna be a lot less equipped to cope and handle it, hell you might even be weakening yourself from disinfo designed for that purpose.

So yes I agree with you and share similar concerns, I think we need more balance concerning this topic. If humanity is going to be enslaved, I think I'd rather kill myself, but that's not neccesarily what is going on, and in my experience, as long as I don't give up my freewill myself, it is hard for someone else to take it, though I still believe you need to watch out for gaps in your awareness, as perhaps when you are't aware of something, your freewill isn't being utilized.

The way I approach this is like building a puzzle, searching for pieces, and which fit together, except there are many false pieces to make incomplete puzzles. I will have faith for now that everything is as it is for a reason, until I have enough reasoning/information to solidly believe otherwise.

We are alive, we are here now, I find it much more comfortable to strive to live in the now instead of some negative future that I have no solid way of knowing is impending or not. I spend a lot less time recently questioning things in a manner that can make me paranoid or fearful. I can either put myself in a state of worry (and weaken myself) or I can try to stay a bit detached with my puzzle, and try to accept what I can and can't control and what I can and can't change.

Summary: I believe fear/paranoia is not productive or helpful.
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Summerbreeze - It is likely that many people will start taking a deeper look at themselves and the world around them to see what is real and what has been given to them as real. Look at the Middle East right now. People are tired of what has been handed to them - rules, promises, distractions - and want a different way of living.

Will this entirely cease our need to struggle and be right? I feel like most things it will be a mixed bag. For some people perhaps it will, for some it might be just a beginning, for others they might get even more ticked off at what they haven't been told by authorities, and for some they might want to consolidate their own interests (i.e. power, money).

Thanks for mentioning being authentic - that's a big part of the work that I do so I'm all in favor of that.

AngelPsychic - You're very welcome. This was just my response which hopefully people could gain something from, but I realize that everyone is different and will have their own reaction/response.

Harmonium - There is a way of being discerning without creating fear - I agree. I can certainly understand concern over losing free will and being enslaved by others. The interesting part to me is that if I look around the world, many people are already feeling trapped, enslaved, having a lack of free will - just from their own culture, government, etc. Whether someone is living with internal conflict, being manipulated, being distracted by our own people or aliens - I don't see a real difference.

It's humorous and sad to me that we get concerned over aliens, but don't see it or at least do much about it with our own species. Maybe we have become so hypnotized/asleep by our circumstances and environment, we have become so desensitized, that we don't even see it anymore - it just becomes part of the background noise that we try to deal with or tune out. One more issue that is "someone else's problem - as long as it doesn't personally affect me".

And living from a perspective of fear will definitely color everything around us and perpetuate itself, not only with us but with others.

So some questions that arise in general are: What is there to truly be afraid of? What is my reality - what I've been told, or what my direct, personal experience is? And can I allow that to change as my consciousness changes? If I'm experiencing fear, how can I be curious about it and question even that, so that I can give myself what I need? Am I willing to change my perspective or do I have to be right?
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Luis - We've chatted in private but I wanted to respond on this thread too. Thanks again for being willing to share whatever is coming up for you. I don't take what you're saying as an attack, as much as trying to get integrated and have your world make sense again.

I'm familiar with various concepts of the One World/New World Order, I just wanted to see what your concepts were. We have had government ideas of this in the 20th century to be sure from various countries including the US, but I haven't heard so much about benevolent aliens foisting their concepts on humanity or a New Age indoctrination. But then I've mostly been busy with helping people release their conflict and fears.

And just to be clear - the talk about aliens goes back thousands of years in various cultures, just like the information about reincarnation, karma, etc also dates back quite a long way in the Hindu culture before any mention of the words New Age came about.

When I first starting diving into all of these concepts in college, I was open to just about everything. Over time I learned that I had to have some discernment because not everything I was being told or that I read was necessarily true.

In the past, some benefits of having a mentor/spiritual guide along the way and not going it alone is that 1) we can chat with someone we trust who has been through the valleys and peaks that we're currently going through, so there is some reassurance and stability 2) we can dismantle our social conditioning at a pace that is safe so that we maintain our center and don't have a personal breakdown. If we collect a lot of ideas, especially ideas that are in direct opposition to our beliefs, the conflict can feel like it's too much, even to the point that we want to die.

I've personally had points in my life when I was younger, especially around teenage and college years, where I wasn't happy with my version of reality and wanted to die as a way out. As I found support through similar minded-people and began to allow myself to express my own personal truth, it began to matter less and less what everyone else thought. And I started accessing the Akashic Records as a way to gain direct, personal experience.

I'm in agreement that we can be curious about everything in life - even our own perspective. And I'm also in agreement with Harmonium that fear will suck the life out of anything, including us. So how to be curious and centered, even about my own perspective, and allow change to happen?

Although I'm not a christian anymore, I know quite a bit about prophecy and Revelations. The upside of anything written in symbolic form, whether it's Nostradamus or John the Beloved, is that it protects those who are writing it and offers a puzzle for future generations who might be attracted to it to be resolved. The downside is that it can be so open to interpretation that our fears and prejudices get in the way. So we can interpret UFO/New Age doctrine as the deceptions, or we can look at any number of religious/political activities and say the same things. For example, a politician saying "No new taxes" followed by new taxes, a politician saying "I did not have sexual relations" only to discover yes he did while keeping his ankles warm, a church leader arguing against gays/sex only to discover they are gay or having sex with prostitutes, the Catholic church covering up for pediphile priests, a religious/governmental agency trying to tell us what reality is instead of encouraging us to discover it for ourselves, various cultural distractions like television, internet, etc.

As you say, things are open to interpretation.

If you don't believe that there are benevolent beings, that's your right to believe whatever you want. But I'm always inviting everyone to have an experience. My experience of people, is that there are all kinds of people in this world, with various intentions based on who they are.

Why would aliens be any different? And if aliens have been around for thousands of years, which we seem to get a variety of stories from various cultures about them, then why haven't they already killed/eaten/enslaved everyone? I mean, if they are advanced enough to travel light years to get here, and assuming their intentions are not benevolent, why do we not have concentration camps full of humans while the aliens are standing guard? What possible evil plan can they have in store for us that we ourselves haven't already perpetrated on ourselves throughout history - prejudice, slavery, war, genocide? We seem to do a great job of perpetrating fear on ourselves to feed our own agenda. I don't feel particularly safe with the governments/religions/militaries currently on the planet - how much worse do you think it's going to get with aliens?

It is not my experience that no one knows the spiritual realm with full accuracy. It is my experience that we have to use our discernment to discover these people. I've met people who are enlightened or in stages of consciousness beyond enlightenment, that have tremendous insights on all kinds of things and are an immense benefit to humankind. And even then I still have a right to disagree with them if I want to.

If you want to be a christian and live by certain values, who cares what anyone else thinks or says? For centuries, anyone who had ideas contrary to the Church were hunted down and killed. They lived in fear and couldn't reveal themselves publicly. Do you think the same will now happen to anyone who is religious? If it's a comfort to you, if you gain some practical guidance as to how to live your life through your religion - then go for it with all your heart.

When I'm in another country, like Japan, which has a blending of buddhist, shinto, zen, and taoism spiritual paths, no one is trying to convert me to their way of thinking. Even if I told them I was christian or any other path, no one would give me any flak. They just let me be myself. Are you worried that you will be forced to have certain beliefs and live in a certain way if you suddenly become the minority?

You have no reason to believe me, but in my experience Jeshua was not an extra-terrestrial. I don't think Christianity would crumble because of that, as much as people wanting a direct experience of God and not an intemediary anymore. Why go to church if I can experience being a Christ? Not becoming Jesus, but experiencing the Christ-awareness, enlightenment, whatever you want to call it. If Jesus was right when he said "All the things I do, you will do and more", and we're all capable of being Christlike, why settle for less? If I can truly embody all the concepts that he spoke about, and not just the filtered concepts given through religion, why wouldn't I do that? If the statement "the kingdom of God is within" has any merit whatsoever, how can I discover that?

I can understand fears about losing individuality, but to be honest, when we've lived in times of unification like what we're going to be experiencing more of in the future, we got enormously creative and unique because all the conflict that was holding us back from being ourselves was released. Feeling a sense of connection and unification with everything, doesn't mean losing your uniqueness and becoming Borg-like. If anything, we are Borg drones right now, unconsciously sleep-walking through our lives like we're in the Matrix. I've been told by others who live there or visit there, that in New Zealand today, the most valued currency is not so much money, but creativity. I would visit New Zealand to get an idea of what I'm talking about.

If anyone wants to have a belief it is essentially none of my business. And to me one of the biggest problems on the planet is having beliefs instead of experience, especially if we try to make "our" beliefs the "right" ones. I want to either be open to an experience or have the courage to say "I'm not aware of that yet". Even if I've personally experienced something, what if my consciousness shifts in the next moment and I have a different experience? Am I willling to change? If I can witness life with curiosity, instead of judging and interpreting, then change can happen much easier.

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Hi ChrisL,

Firstly. many thanks for the PM. I will write a response to the PM once my mind is in a more suitable frame of mind to address the issues you mention at hand.

A lot of things that you mention above I understand. I'll address a few of the points in the above post.

With regard to things getting worse, I agree that I don't feel safe with the current Governmental set-ups across the globe. We do live in a Matrix right now in my opinion. Authority has become a safe haven for the majority of the population with people listening to the media closely. Imagine how the world would react to alien information? I fear it would be like an alien matrix, the majority buying into it without really digging deep and questioning the foundations. It is evident that as a planet, the people publicly running the show can mislead us and have us all fooled. Alien intervention with a couple of big flashy spaceships and cures for AIDS and the like and suddenly, we're best buddies. There was an old Stargate SG-1 episode about aliens meeting with mankind, providing cures and new technology, but the sinister motive was the sterilisation of women, preventing any pregnancies. I'm not suggesting that this would happen, but it was part of a 200 year plan. As a race, we're extremely primitive. I suppose I'm guilty as I've followed Star Trek since a young age. I'd prefer a race to be able to develop on its own without intervention unless they can prove capabilities of travelling to other worlds in a sufficient manner. Prime Directive and all that. I guess there's no such thing in reality.

Furthermore, there are deeper factions of ET's (even I'm questioning that now after the new info) which would not do with interventions from other cosmic neighbours for lack of a better expression.

With regard to Jesus, I've discussed this issue with people just after your PM. Now I question myself whether Jesus was an ET. New information was provided to me, showing more misinterpretations and misunderstandings of scripture regarding the birth of Jesus. I agree with the values that you mention regarding Christianity and that they can remain. What I do question is what happens to direct prayers to Jesus Christ? What happens to the people who follow another Biblical teaching that Christ will accept them for who they are? I don't think they'd be hunted and killed, but people in my opinion would say, 'Well the aliens said this, this and this, therefore your beliefs are idiotic'.
A prime example of this is Creationism and Evolution.

I'll address more of the Borg issue in the PM.

Regarding the New World Order, there are some basic outlines and plans of such an agenda on the internet, but there are also detailed plans, one of which a poster on a site I use was hounded by the powers that be for it. The poster was sent documentation from a 'reliable' source. The website owners had to delete all trace of the thread existing. Nevertheless, the characteristics I wrote in the previous post was a simplistic version of it. Ushering an age of spiritual enlightenment and revelation via ET's was a big point.

Whilst I write this, the personal revelations provided to me by others outside of the site has caused me to re-evaluate what I thought were geunine pieces of evidence for initial theories I had. For example, Dr Jacques Valles, a former scientist, astronomer for NASA and the US Government, as well as an important figure in the study of UFO's, has written extensively on UFO's being some sort of demonic manifestion in our reality. He also worked on a Project Blue Book, something heavily known in UFOlogy. That in itself brings more answers and more questions. As Captain Jonathan Archer on Star Trek Enterprise said, 'If there's even a slight possibility, we must investigate'.

I suppose a lot of what I write would be considered negative by the vast majority. But hey, I'm a firm believer that positivity + negativity = new ideas.

Your PM will come in the next day or so Chris. Thanks.

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Luis - You're very welcome. I know firsthand what it can feel like to have the bottom pulled out from under me. Take your time with the PM whenever you feel ready.

I'm not so sure the majority of the people will buy into whatever aliens would say - first it would be a huge shock that would take some time to recover from. Then some people might immediately accept whatever is given, but I feel that we would still have a variety of responses, including wanting to give some time before readily accepting anything. This is just conjecture on both our parts - I guess we'll find out.

The deeper issue that I see is not so much whether the source of information is an alien or a government/religion/etc, but how can we become more responsible and response able to deal directly with life? Most people do not know themselves clearly, and can be so conflicted/distracted that they will hand their power over to someone else. Hopefully, an event of this magnitude, will help clear some cobwebs and have people truly searching for real answers, reclaim their own power, and not just blindly accept what is handed to them.

What if Jeshua deliberately set himself up as someone who could help with prayers, as someone we could ask for help? Regardless of aliens, it doesn't change his relationship with humankind. If prayer's are directed towards him, I would imagine that he will continue to support those who need it, just as he has over the last 2,000 years. I don't see any problem with those who want Jeshua to accept them as they are - the real difficulty is that we don't accept ourselves as we are.

And again, even if someone thinks our beliefs are idiotic - so what? It's our beliefs - it's truly no one else's business. And who care's if someone makes fun of us? If we can recognize that everyone and everything is sacred, we become more internally-validating, and even compliments and insults start to matter less and less. We see other's words as more of a projection than a reality.

And for that matter, who cares if our reality is different than someone else's? With almost 7 billion people on the planet, we all have our version of reality. It's alright with me if no one has the exact same version - it doesn't invalidate my reality unless I invalidate myself.

So then other questions that come up: Do I have to have others agree with me to validate myself? Can I allow myself to change? Even if I'm the only person who has a certain belief, do I have the courage to live my life as I want? Do I really know myself and my power? Was Jeshua right when he said nothing has power over us unless we grant it? If the truth really does set us free, and all we need is some time to discern it for ourselves, then what is there to truly worry about?

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I would like for an alien or two to come meet me one day, and give me obvious signs that they are not from earth. The signs outta be so obvious that even the most dense person knows that they are aliens. I would like to talk to them, you know? It would be an excellent opportunity to have personal experiences with them while under the veiled of ignorance.
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I would like for an alien or two to come meet me one day, and give me obvious signs that they are not from earth. The signs outta be so obvious that even the most dense person knows that they are aliens. I would like to talk to them, you know? It would be an excellent opportunity to have personal experiences with them while under the veiled of ignorance.
Make sure you stay open to the possibility of telepathic contact first, then physical contact. That would be a wonderful way to "ease" a human into accepting this new reality about to be thrust upon us. Also, ET contact may not be what we think it will be.... we really have to stay open to all possibilities.

Also, many have already been contacted via telepathy by ETs, so this method is not new or untried, we just have to find out how to get it going ourselves....in order to speed things up.
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ChrisL can you update us about the alien announcement that is to take place?
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Bluesparks - With all the human transformation happening right now, my main focus is still on helping us see ourselves clearly and create a more conscious, effortless life. I haven't checked the Records lately for an update on the announcement - I'll make some time to do that.

AngelPsychic is on the right track. I know it might sound kind of new agey and hokey to some people, but an intuitive link for those who are open to it will be one of the easiest ways to make an initial contact - and through dreams - just like it can be for our spirit guides. In fact, the initial mass public contact may be more intuitive, followed by a more conventional type of public announcement.

Everyone - Has anyone been following the Rapture group and their announcement of the end of the world? This type of announcement has been happening for centuries and I feel sorry for those who have felt disempowered by it.

The Records show that humans will still be around in physical form till about 6734 - so in other words, please don't panic and use your own discernment when people are making any kind of announcements.
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The Records show that humans will still be around in physical form till about 6734 - so in other words, please don't panic and use your own discernment when people are making any kind of announcements.
what happens in 6734 that will cause humans to leave the earth?
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Nothing catastrophic, simply time to start exploring other worlds. What happens when you graduate? Time for another adventure.
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That's really interesting! I did follow the whole rapture thing really close, and some of the reports and news things were just horrible. Things like parents saying their children are going to hell and stuff.

you said the records show that we'll be around in phsycial form till 6734 - So do we just merge into a spirit form or something?
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With what's happening right now, i'm surprised that till the 6700s, we would still be here without nuking ourselves with the "i'm stronger than you look at my missles" type of governements. Or without destroying all the vegetations on earth.
I know it sounds pessimistic but let's face it, that's what is happening right now.
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Well, it doesn't necessarily mean we'll be around here on _this_ planet. Just that humans in the flesh will somehow survive that long.

Although it'd be a shame if Earth were to become uninhabitable for us. And by us.
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Jeremy - It's amazing what we will perpetuate on ourselves and others to try to be right, which can be very destructive. It's at the root of so many conflicts that we sustain internally and externally.

Some people will move beyond the expression of a physical form if they still want to be here on Earth, others will travel out into space in a physical form, still others might choose to die/ascend and visit other places or timeframes here on Earth. Lifetimes are not linear - there might be some people who choose to incarnate in other timeframes in the past.

Joe - I understand that it can be easy to feel pessimistic about what is going on in the world, especially when news typically harps on the negative, shocking or fear-based approach. There will still be people dying, especially over the next 20 years or so, but there won't be a global cataclysm like we see in the movies. That being said, our response to life is more important than anything.

Mynder - I think it would be very cool to be around in that timeframe, just to see what the exodus/transition will look like. What an amazing time, just like now.
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Mynder - I think it would be very cool to be around in that timeframe, just to see what the exodus/transition will look like. What an amazing time, just like now.
Why wouldn't we be?
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There are some people that have reached a certain understanding and then left Earth to have other adventures. Sometimes there have been groups of people who have ascended together - like the group in the Yucatan Peninsula. Researchers have found the homes and personal items - just no traces of people.

There are people on this forum even that simply want to get outta here as quickly as possible. And once we are playing at a level of consciousness where life becomes effortless, we sometimes want to stick around longer to help others or at least enjoy life for awhile!!
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I want to get outta here as quickly as possible.

... not really, I want to enjoy life some more. I wonder if I sincerely ask to meet my loved ones back home in person, would they fulfill my request if I was somewhere very isolated?
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ChrisL, I found these 3 videos on youtube and thought of you.

Check them out, sounds exactly like what you're talking about + a funky animated talking character:


Alien message 2012 part 1

Alien message 2012 part 2
Alien message 2012 part 3
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Hey ChrisL, quick question...
Do you know anything about comet elenin? I have watched quite a few clips on youtube regarding this planet-sized comet that is currently in our solar system. I think some call it planet x. Anyway apparently it will go right past our earth in Sep 2011 or Apr 2012 (can't remember which), and we will experience red skies and falling debris and disasterous weather conditions etc. Then later in 2012 it will turn around and again come right past our earth, this time even closer, causing even more disaster etc etc. Some say it goes exactly in line with the mayan calendar etc and it could be the end of this world / the start of a new world.
Do you know anything about this?
Is it true?

Is it worth following goals and starting a business this year if the world is just going to completely transform in a fiery storm?
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Well according to discovery.com, there is nothing to worry about.


Comet Elenin will sweep nearest to Earth on Oct. 16 at a distance of 21 million miles and be moving fast enough to travel the distance from Earth to the moon in under five hours!

The effects of the comet on Earth at closest approach will be as inconsequential as that of a mosquito slamming head-on into an ocean-going supertanker.

Let's look at the physics. Comet Elenin is a loose agglomeration of volatile ices and dust a few miles across. It is therefore one hundred billionth the mass of our moon. (The relative difference is roughly the same as the mass of a mosquito vs. the mass of an oil supertanker.)

The comet will pass no closer to us than 84 times the Earth-moon distance.
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Veloci - The more clarity we have with what we want, and our vision of life, the more effortless it becomes, no matter what we're asking for.

Lionman - Thanks for the links. I watched some of them and the weird talking animated figure is a bit strange, but I'll check it out some more to see if there is some practical information that is helpful. Thanks again.

Nic - We do have a planet orbiting the sun that has a larger elliptical orbit, but the Records aren't showing any disastrous events based on a planet coming closer to Earth. Honestly, we have enough Earth changes to deal with at the moment. We do have melting happening right now at the polar ice caps which will make water levels rise and change weather patterns. We've already seen this year (and the last few years) how interesting the weather is getting all over the world.

Don't get caught up in any fear-based predictions and alter your plans. If you have a strong urge to do something right now - business, relationships, etc - go for it.

We will continue to have earth changes (ie. earthquakes, floods, tornadoes, hurricanes, droughts, etc), wars, political change, economic shifts -but there won't be a global cataclysm like some people are talking about.

The larger issue is releasing conflict and letting ourselves become more conscious this year and in 2012.

MicroElvis - Thanks for the scientific perspective that helps us not feel fearful.

Everyone - I'll let you know when I have an update on the alien announcement. I haven't made the time to check the Records because I've been so busy. Thanks for being patient.
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ChrisL brings up a very good point here. The water levels of the world WILL rise in the next few years and beyond, so we have to pay attention to this. Also, pay attention to any intuitive nudges you may be getting to move to another location, especially if you currently live near a coast somewhere in the world. Soon I think many will have to move inland, and if you do it now, rather than later, this would be the smart thing to do.

Pay attention to those inner urges you get, those gut feelings, those knowings about where to go and what to do, at this current time, they are very important!
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Do you have an update yet Chris?
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This makes me sad AngelPsychic, just yesterday I played with the thought to move to a place with sea

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