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| UNDER CONSTRUCTION ![]() ![]() ![]() ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~Lucid Dreaming and Out of body experiences~ FAQ, Discussion, Stories, Tutorial and Help - Summerbreeze for Beginners ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hi everyone! If you want to follow a slightly different approach, or if you are frustrated by other approaches I invite you to go through this tutorial. If you are new to the topic you just might want to read it down. If you wonder WHY I have written this, it is because, I realized a pattern of very same questions that people ask frequently and on the other side exhausted standardized answers, so you might just go through this thread, hopefully to get an answer to all your questions. AND you are welcome to post questions into this thread. Discussions and suggestions are welcome too. If you are a still a OBE-skeptic, that's perfectly fine, be my guest. Since Lucid Dreaming is proven by Stephen LaBerge, you might want to ask yourself what it really is. As i see OBE's and the subconscious as a further part of Personal Development, this is my part I give back, being thankful of what I've learned here about every thing. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1.0 So first off I'm not an expert or a person who claims to know every thing, I just want to bring the subject nearer to you, since we are all on this journey together for quite a time and i apologize that English is not my mother language Everything is based on my personal viewpoint, I'm open to talk about it, if done respectfully and rationally. 1.1 OK, but what is in it for me then? ![]() Well, I'm glad you have asked You spent one quarter of your life sleeping, why don't use the time, as a extension to your day to day reality? Why to learn Lucid Dreaming? - First off because it is FUN + fun with a cream topping of fun! Ever imagined something that would be fun, but isn't allowed or possible? - You learn more about yourself, your fears, your self-limitations and all you want. You cooperate with your subconscious, it has its own non-judgmental intelligence. -> Personal Exploration - If you are a creative person, you have here your full potential, if you search for inspiration for you newest drawing, just turn the sky purple grow blue trees, let a red river flow and cross it on a yellow shiny bridge - make your own abstract artwork - Problem solving. Well, this is a vague point, it is for everyone different, but there is the possibility to train things you wouldn't do in public, like public speaking or for some people asking a woman out on a date, the point is here more the NLP-aspect, than the rooting in reality. You will condition your subconscious to have more self confidence. - If you have reoccuring nightmares, you can recondition them now. [...] Why to leave my body? - Learn more about the collective consciousness, the universe, other places, dimensions, beings and the power of your mind. - Connect with your higher self, your guides, higher beings and so on. - Transform deep rooted fears like fear of death. - You are more than your physical body, learn more of who you really are. Raise your consciousness, "follow your path back". [...] That sounds fantastic but can I get harmed? Sure. Being a human in physical reality is even more dangerous. You can lose your physical body and suffer pain. People die because of many stupid things, like not watching when crossing the street or falling down a ladder. The good news is that in the astral planes you are quite safe, more safe, since you are energy and your body is lying in bed. I think it is theoretically possible to die, but you really, really, really have to try hard. The point is that you create your circumstances with the same "personality", just that it goes much quicker in the non-physical plane, you really need to have many times before the intense, desiring intention to do so, than you might succeed in the next years if you are lucky The same laws as here are valid everywhere. Like attracts like. I'll go into further detail later. The only thing to know here is about yourself, is how your attitude towards working with you fear is and that you make sure that your life-situation is awesome in the moment you are projecting. The more i read, the more it became clear that like everything it depends on yourself what things will be like. My intention for you is to transform the opposite of love, called fear, which challenges every life situation in which you are! You go from fear to love ! Quote:
1.2 Good! I'm thinking about this, where should I start? Just start where you want and what you are comfortable with! You might set your goal to just learn Lucid Dreaming at first. You are maybe not sure if you are emotionally ready for experiencing astral travel. That's fine you're not alone, many of us gone trough that. If you have just little fear it is often intelligent to do it anyway. If you just try to learn Lucid Dreaming there is the possibility to have an unintented OBE, that's because it is technically very similiar. You are outside the body, even in a unconscious dream. It goes a bit like this: if you are sleeping, you are dreaming. If you are dreaming, why not consciously? If dreaming consciously so why just moving in the own subconscious? You move along, when you feel like it. The techniques are mostly for both things, because it is the same, just to another degree. It is not very likely that there will be total different techniques. You need to change your attitude a bit if you are not "rooted" in spirituality. We are going from a spiritual paradigm in this tutorial, because it is way more effective than a approach from a "scientific-biological" paradigm. Prove your openness to yourself! In fact we do not learn it like we do a new skill, like a different language. We do it normally natural, you might remember very vivid experiences in your nighttime as you were a child. We are living in a world where the focus is more on survival and other things, so this might be quite a far stretch to focus on dream lucidity and further things. On the other hand a good use for developing the right brain half, that is today way to underrated. Last edited by Summerbreeze; 01-17-2011 at 10:40 PM. | |
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