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~Lucid Dreaming and Out of body experiences~

FAQ, Discussion, Stories, Tutorial and Help - Summerbreeze
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Hi everyone!



If you want to follow a slightly different approach, or if you are frustrated by other approaches I invite you to go through this tutorial.
If you are new to the topic you just might want to read it down.

If you wonder WHY I have written this, it is because, I realized a pattern of very same questions that people ask frequently and on the other side exhausted standardized answers, so you might just go through this thread, hopefully to get an answer to all your questions. AND you are welcome to post questions into this thread. Discussions and suggestions are welcome too.
If you are a still a OBE-skeptic, that's perfectly fine, be my guest. Since Lucid Dreaming is proven by Stephen LaBerge, you might want to ask yourself what it really is. As i see OBE's and the subconscious as a further part of Personal Development, this is my part I give back, being thankful of what I've learned here about every thing.


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1.0

So first off I'm not an expert or a person who claims to know every thing, I just want to bring the subject nearer to you, since we are all on this journey together for quite a time and i apologize that English is not my mother language
Everything is based on my personal viewpoint, I'm open to talk about it, if done respectfully and rationally.


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OK, but what is in it for me then?



Well, I'm glad you have asked It is like in your everyday life. "What is in it for me?", ask it yourself, as I'm telling you about the characteristics.
You spent one quarter of your life sleeping, why don't use the time, as a extension to your day to day reality?

Why to learn Lucid Dreaming?

- First off because it is FUN + fun with a cream topping of fun!
Ever imagined something that would be fun, but isn't allowed or possible? In this reality you can do almost everything, there are little glitches, like not working light switches, but in general the possibilities are only limited by your imagination.

- You learn more about yourself, your fears, your self-limitations and all you want. You cooperate with your subconscious, it has its own non-judgmental intelligence. -> Personal Exploration

- If you are a creative person, you have here your full potential, if you search for inspiration for you newest drawing, just turn the sky purple grow blue trees, let a red river flow and cross it on a yellow shiny bridge - make your own abstract artwork

- Problem solving. Well, this is a vague point, it is for everyone different, but there is the possibility to train things you wouldn't do in public, like public speaking or for some people asking a woman out on a date, the point is here more the NLP-aspect, than the rooting in reality. You will condition your subconscious to have more self confidence.

- If you have reoccuring nightmares, you can recondition them now.

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Why to leave my body?

- Learn more about the collective consciousness, the universe, other places, dimensions, beings and the power of your mind.

- Connect with your higher self, your guides, higher beings and so on.

- Transform deep rooted fears like fear of death.

- You are more than your physical body, learn more of who you really are.
Raise your consciousness, "follow your path back".

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That sounds fantastic but can I get harmed?

Sure. Being a human in physical reality is even more dangerous. You can lose your physical body and suffer pain. People die because of many stupid things, like not watching when crossing the street or falling down a ladder. The good news is that in the astral planes you are quite safe, more safe, since you are energy and your body is lying in bed.
I think it is theoretically possible to die, but you really, really, really have to try hard. The point is that you create your circumstances with the same "personality", just that it goes much quicker in the non-physical plane, you really need to have many times before the intense, desiring intention to do so, than you might succeed in the next years if you are lucky. Since i don't recommend dying and I or others never heard of that during OBE, the most critical point is fear. When you vibrate low you are able to attract entities that fead on fear or want to get intimate with you Even then there will nothing happen, maybe you will be scared or laugh about it.
The same laws as here are valid everywhere. Like attracts like. I'll go into further detail later.
The only thing to know here is about yourself, is how your attitude towards working with you fear is and that you make sure that your life-situation is awesome in the moment you are projecting.
The more i read, the more it became clear that like everything it depends on yourself what things will be like. My intention for you is to transform the opposite of love, called fear, which challenges every life situation in which you are! You go from fear to love !

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OBE, energy work, etc, does not make you more vulnerable to or more likely to experience negative experiences and or attacks. These things do, however, make you more aware of negative interference. Energy work, for example, will make your energy body more sensitive. If you are experiencing negative interference, then this sensitivity will make you more aware of what is happening.
Energy work does not in itself attract or make you more vulnerable to these things. This is like crawling under your house and finding it riddled with termites, rats and mould. These things where not created nor attracted by the act of crawling under your house. They were always there, but you were not aware of them until you were able to see them. The bright side of the above is that once you know about the true state of the underside of your house, you can call in an exterminator, or have this fixed in some way. Your house will be healthier and live longer. The bad side of this analogy is that it can be a shock, and it can be expensive and take a lot of time and effort to fix things.
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Lucid Dreaming is as harmless as taking a nap you shouldn't waste a thought.


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Good! I'm thinking about this, where should I start?


Just start where you want and what you are comfortable with!
You might set your goal to just learn Lucid Dreaming at first.
You are maybe not sure if you are emotionally ready for experiencing astral travel. That's fine you're not alone, many of us gone trough that. If you have just little fear it is often intelligent to do it anyway.
If you just try to learn Lucid Dreaming there is the possibility to have an unintented OBE, that's because it is technically very similiar.
You are outside the body, even in a unconscious dream.
It goes a bit like this: if you are sleeping, you are dreaming. If you are dreaming, why not consciously? If dreaming consciously so why just moving in the own subconscious? You move along, when you feel like it.
The techniques are mostly for both things, because it is the same, just to another degree. It is not very likely that there will be total different techniques.

You need to change your attitude a bit if you are not "rooted" in spirituality.
We are going from a spiritual paradigm in this tutorial, because it is way more effective than a approach from a "scientific-biological" paradigm. Prove your openness to yourself!

In fact we do not learn it like we do a new skill, like a different language.
We do it normally natural, you might remember very vivid experiences in your nighttime as you were a child. We are living in a world where the focus is more on survival and other things, so this might be quite a far stretch to focus on dream lucidity and further things. On the other hand a good use for developing the right brain half, that is today way to underrated.

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What are the basics?

The basics are basically very basic!

You are invited to work on your consciousness and your energies, that is not complicated, you just need to do the "homework". It is little you have to do and once you are "calibrated" it pays off.

The basics summarized:
You need to get a feeling of yourself and to control your consciousness and its states. There are many benefits for other areas as you trigger your switches. You have to make yourself a bit more "functionable", that will be your key to other perfomances and will increase your day to day intuition, your psychic skills, your emotional balance etc.

To do that I will show you easy comprehensible exercises, that are at least worth experiencing them.

This will include:

- Breathing, might not sound interesting, but try it first!

- Meditation, useful for everything.

- Self-Induced Trance, great for connecting to the subconscious, you can get even to past life experiences or other things in trance.
Gets you comfortable with "weird" consciousness states.

- Chakras, you learn to open your energy centers.

- Overview over Lucid Dreaming and OBE-techniques, there are very many. You might try, which you like the most.

- Listening to different frequencies, you'll find on Youtube some links which help you, you just play them in the background, they will influence your brainwaves.


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The different states in the Astral Body

What is the astral body?
The astral body is your spirit, when you are in your human form in this incarnation you are experiencing right now. Since this is a basic tutorial and much information on this is vague i stay on the easy path.
You are connected to your physical-body through a silver cord. You use this body to travel in the different dimensions.
Every time you are sleeping it goes out of your physical body and there is no way to prevent it, just to control the consciousness you experience in this state.


The difference between Dreaming and OBE?
technically none, you are in the same body and experiencing something.
The more consciousness you manage to get into your astral body, without waking up to the physical body, the more possibilities you have.
When you are in a unconscious dream or a lucid dream you are projecting your subconscious. If you are in OBE you are relying less on your own subconscious. You are more in a different reality.

The following graphic shows the connection between those two.









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This is going to be Epic!

One of my New Years Goals was to learn how to Lucid Dream and Astral Travel, so im gunna be keeping a very close eye on this thread.

Lucid Dreaming first though!
I'll wait for more info before i begin.

Thanks Summerbreeze!
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Every path starts with the first step

So, we go through that forest and try not to see it at as a whole and to label it. We miss much of the original experience of what this forest can be. You might want to leave its path to have some experiences and come back.
Maybe you want to ponder about this analogy, regarding the life you are experiencing right now.




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Breathing

What use has breathing?

It is the most important metabolic process of your body.
It is more important than sleeping, eating or drinking.

If you change your sleeping patterns, you can feel more energetic.
If you change you eating habits, you can be healthier and more beautiful.
If you change the fluids you are putting in your body, you can feel clearer and flatten your blood sugar level, which can change your eating habits.

There are many coherences in this whole system of your body, many of which you aren't aware of.

The same goes by breathing, you can change your current emotional/consciousness state just by altering your breathing.

How can I understand that emotionally?

Look at the picture below. Try tuning into its feeling of freedom and the absence of day to day surviving thoughts. Close your eyes, you shut down 85% of your perception by just one blink. Imagine yourself standing on a vast field and looking up to a sunny sky. If there is nobody in your near that laughs at you, you can increase the sensation by spreading your arms.
Now when you are in tune with your imagination, try to breath slowly and deeply, effortless and totally naturally, like you would increase the perception of the environment by doing this. Let your breath flow gently and feel the air passing your nostrils.

Can you feel now that you change your current state?




A general thing

Many people breath wrongly. That sounds silly, but that is the way it is. Many people breath very flat, the lungs are not getting the whole portion of fresh air. Sometimes you air your room, to concentrate better, well it is quite logical, that you increase the amount of oxygen in the air that is surrounding you.
But ever thought that breathing itself has a influence on how you feel and the amount of oxygen that goes into your blood?

If you have a pet, how does it breath? It looks like it would breath more with the belly. Yep and this should be your natural tendency too!
Maybe it feels not very comfortable to control the own breathing at first, this is true. But the goal is not to consciously breath all the time.
You will adept automatically, as the time goes by anyways. Sometimes we have to remind ourselves of the simplest things.

How do I know I will adept?

Your subconscious has a great memory, it remembers what serves you and what doesn't. The other side is, that it doesn't has its own analytical mind. You decide how you condition yourself. This is nothing that takes much effort, you just have to remember that you are the captain of the boat and determining the course of the boat, when it is necessary. You have to show your subconscious what is good or not and sometimes you have even to remind yourself.

Take this example:

You went through the supermarkets to get all the things for christmas and are pretty stressed, because there is this guy who took your parking space and the other woman who got you into this conversation with their emotional problems and you just want to go home.

So after that you arrived at home, put all the bags away and throw yourself on the couch! What might be the next thing you do, with not thinking much about it? Yes, inhaling deeply and exhaling deeply and you might even take a break after exhaling, before inhaling again. You subconscious knows that this makes you feel better and you just did it, without maybe knowing that this is a pattern, that changes your current state.

Where did you pick it up? There was certainly someone doing that before you, you saw this couple a times and your subconscious has adapted.


Was it hard to learn or does it feel unnatural? Nope!


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What will we use here?


There are 1001 patterns you can try out, just google or share it in this thread.
There are two breathing patterns, I want to show you that are of a use.

The first one, is to get you more relaxed and calmed, you do this before you do everything that needs a calm mind.

The second one, you do after finishing whatever you did, it increases your alertness and energy level again.



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I ABSOLUTELY love this overview!!! So far, it looks great, keep up the good work and I look forward to reading more!! Thank You!!
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Hey SB! I have a question for you. I seem to be stuck. lol. I keep having experiences where I know I am pulling from my body, but for some reason I can't go as far as I did before. For example, just yesterday morning I woke up, laid back down with the intention of projecting, and then I was able to float upward toward my ceiling, feel through it, and then suddenly things became solid feeling again (which I've learned to associate with my AP turning to LD). This happened about four times, then I finally gave up and decided to lucid dream, where I flew around changing objects, moving buildings out of my way, etc. lol! IT was fun, but not what I was wanting at the time.

This morning, I could get my hands and arms out and even watched them wave around in front of my face. I felt the table next to me and reached over and felt my husband next to me. However, I COULD NOT for the life of me come completely out.

I don't know why this is happening other than my neighbor has been mowing his lawn early in the morning and waking me up. I wonder if this sound is keeping me from APing completely. What also really gets on my nerves about it is that if I try at night when everything is silent, I always fall completely asleep and cannot control it. In the mornings I have no problem, but at night I just can't seem to do it.

Any suggestions? Will sounds that my physical body is experiencing inhibit my astral projection? Lucid dreaming is really, REALLY fun, but I've got some business I'd like to attend to in the astral realm. lol. And I'd REALLY like to get started instead of sitting around with my hands floating above my face or playing with my head in the attic.
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