A simple question about psychic readings

[Joebenz]

Hi,
i would like to ask this question to anyone who knows the awnser, First of all i don't want to offence any psychics at all.
So here's the question:
Generally, real psychics do readings for others, contact a dead member of the the family and charge them for 100 to 500$. They claim themselves to be at service to others, to be spiritual, full of light and some can check the akashic records for others.
If they really want to serve others and are spiritual, why do they charge 100$ to 500$ for a reading?

It's like for exemple, you're on the road driving and you come across someone who has a problem to his car, so you help him and check the car and finally repare it, and then ask him 100 bucks for this. For me it's just wrong. Anyone who wants to talk to a dead relative should not pay anything. At least not that expensive.
What if someone is grieving that a loved one died and doesn't have the money to pay a real psychic, what would happen to that person? what would the psychic do?

Now again i don't want to bash anyone but this question have been tormenting my mind since i knew that real psychics exists.
Maybe it's for a living but if that's the case, why are they that expensive?

Same thing for objects, some psychics put positive energies on normal objects and sell them for 200$ each. 200$ for a ring or a collar that is not even in gold or silver!
Does contacting the divine really have to cost 100$ to 500$? where is the spirituality in all that?

I hope someone can awnser me here and i've been trying to understand this for ages.

EDIT: on other psychic discussions forums, i asked the same question and the moderators didn't allow the thread to be visible to others... strange isn't it?

[Holistic Star]

A quick reply becasue I don't have much time. - My initial response is some questions to ask yourself?

What do you want the psychic to live on? How are they to pay their phone bill, internet connection, mortgage etc

Do you resent paying for other services, like a haircut, doctor or lawyer. After all - a hairdresser likes cutting hair - why not do it for free? A doctor can prescribe medicine, why not for free?

Do you work for free? If so, why? If not, why not?

In addition, how do you know that they 'never' work for free? They might not advertise it, but do it when called to. I know when led to do it, I have done free sessions for people. But not if it didn't feel right.

The guy changing the tyre for the other - has to have money coming in to pay for his own car and petrol. He couldn't drive around indefinitely waiting to see people who needed help.

But the main reason why is that paying for services creates a committment on behalf of the payer. I've done enough free sessions in my time to know that follow-through on action and committment from a free session is very low, compared to one where someone has invested in their session. The more they invest (relative to their income), the higher their committment to take action!

Truely, no-one HAS to go to a psychic. When I work with my clients I work with them to help them develep their own intuition and judgement. We've become so detached from our skills - a psychic can help someone reconnect with their own inner wisdom.

[Holistic Star]

I meant to add you seem to equate 'spirituality' with not having money. Would you be interested in exploring where that belief comes from?

Is that belief serving you right now?

[HiImJeremy]

A similar qquestion gets asked of healers.

" If you work for Creator and you channel Creators healing, why is your service not free? I thought that God healing power was a gift and could not be sold? "

Same things happen with Psychics. Sure for the fakes you're being ripped off, but for the true ones, this is often a hard question to answer. Like Holistic Star you might need to ask yourself some questions.

Lets look at something. Actually everything is a gift from God. The air we breathe the light we see the energy we breathe. You are a gift from God. All of life is a gift from God. In fact, some would say life is not only a gift from God, it is God Itself. And it's true that this cannot be bought or sold- at any price.

Let me ask you a direct question. If this is true-that everything is an expression of God- shouldn't everyone work for free or on a donation-only basis? Do you?

Healing or the use of Psychic abilities are generally used by people as an expression of Gods gift. Everyone takes their unique gift and expresses it in the world in some way. And some people resist doing this.

Psychics are people too. I work with a Shaman who will council anyone for free and lives off courses she runs for people. She uses her shamanic gifts for benefit of all but like she says ' I have to eat too'.

Also not every Psychic charges that much for readings. The best psychic i know charges $50! Those who charge excessive amounts for readings must have a VERY good reputation and high in demand. This is what i find normally. Not sure whether that is much of an excuse for the prices though, but they must believe their time is worth that much money.

Many lightworkers actually face this problems where they are hesitant to charge because they themselves are confused whether they should be given money for the gift they offer.

Shamans used to be given an exhange for their services. Their gifts were god given and yet they were still payed. The best teepee or moccasins. Maybe food or furs. They were acknowledged and thanked in the way that was necessary for that Shaman to survive and help people using his/her gifts.

Psychics and healers are similar. Instead of bartering, we now make a choice go to a psychic who can give us valuable information and we pay them for their service to us in the form of money which is the currency unfortunatley humans living now need to survive.

Psychics aren't all gypsies living in caravans. Some have families, paying off mortgages and putting kids through school.

Look at healers. They are asked for free healings. Sometimes they're given. But lets consider someone who has lung cancer goes to a healer who could likely heal their problem. They ask for free healing believeing it should be free, yet they spend $200 upwards dollars a month on ciggarettes. Now who's choice was it then?

Psychics and healers especially are using their energy in alternate ways. Hard physical labour is taxing on the physical body. Psychics and healers work with energy and believe it or not, it is very taxing to work with energy all the time, for long periods of time. So it is indeed a service to others. We all get run down a bit when we listen to problems all day.

Some psychics and healers, maybe the most compassionate, the most loving and connected will consult with their guides in certain situations whether to determine whether on the deepest levels this person needs the healings and really truly can't afford it. And on the deepest levels, this person will recieve their healing 'pro bono'.

It's all a matter of perspective my friend. I suggest heading over to Erins website and checking out some of what she has to say about it!

Great question, sorry my answer isn't as well organised. And i think you may want to re think the analogy you used. It generally isn't like that at all.

[SkylightMT]

It seems like you have some beliefs around money being a borderline ethical substance, something not worthy of "higher" values and purposes, and therefore things like healing and profound connection and true communication should not be found in the same place as money.

That it is not okay to want to exchange spiritual gifts for money.

That there is something debased about money.

I struggle with these same beliefs. And I suspect I will never have a lot of money as long as I believe true spirituality and money do not go together. I'm working to change these beliefs - because I really want the freedom money will bring me, and I also want the freedom spirituality will bring me.

[royster]

My 2 cents, Skylight:

In abiding by the Law Of Abundance, a sojourner offers to help, because 'service to others' assists the Abundance. I offer help to those I am able to, both on-line and in real life, and I do not ask for 'payment'; I have my daily needs met, and that is good enough for me.

I am a self-employed carpenter, and even the work I do there is healing. I get paid for that work, as it is my profession. But where ever I go, I am available to assist humanity in any way I can, and I do not expect reward. In keeping this tenet of The Law Of Abundance, my needs are met from many directions, none of which you could predict, but none-the-less, help to sustain me.

[Joebenz]

I totally understand that they must have a living. Some psychics are doing their best and can charge a certain amount for it and this is totally fine.
What i'm truely talking about are the ones who charge you 300$, sell 200$ for a wooden pendent or are making a whole business about it.
When it's under 100$, that's what i call a good deal for me.
I agree what Jeremy said, It's a gift from god.
It must serve others and not being exploited for money.

[MasterRishi]

This is a great question, perhaps one of the best.

I've had many long debates with my good friend Gabriel in regards to this subject, wondering just why money has to be of such importance. It's simultaneously the thing that we require to survive and the thing that often pulls us away from pursuit of the spirit. For a long time I resented people who had classes with a "suggested donation" and refused to charge people or accept money in exchange for a psychic reading, akashic records reading, house cleansing, etc. But then after much debating, and a few days without food, Gabriel showed me how money could be useful as a tool. It was really my own ideas of it and the motivations I put behind it that made me feel it was wrong.

Now, I'm very much in agreement with with Jeremy and Star. It took me a while to understand that the money is less about becoming wealthy from our free, source-given gifts, and more about determining a persons commitment level to the service that they were asking for. When a person invests money into a reading, they also invest the time it took them to earn that money. It really comes down to that basic exchange so that after the reading, the person will look back at what they were told and give deeper thought and action to the things that were suggested because of the exchange. Also, it really does help tremendously when it comes time to pay those bills.

Now there are many times when I'm guided to negotiate with the person on the price, or do the session for free, or ask for an actual donation and still be grateful when the person is only able to offer me a long, meaningful embrace when we are done. I don't even actually have a set price structure for anything I do, everything comes from guidance from my big brothers Gabriel, Michael and Uriel.

If someone is charging an exorbitant amount of money for a reading, it probably just means that they know that based on their potential clientelle, they can get away with it. My father always told me growing up, "Something is only worth what someone else will pay for it." If they live in an affluent place where people think spending $300 on a reading is a normal thing, then it becomes normal and accepted. If you're anything like me and cringe a little at anything that costs more than $50, then those prices seem ridiculous and cause us to question that person's motivations. It doesn't necessarily mean they're a better psychic or more in touch with source than anyone else, they just are blessed with clients that can pay those prices.

I really love the old system of bartering. I have been a medicine man in many of my previous lives and I know that part of me still clings to the idea of that exchange of gifts for a service. Especially when the gift is given out of love and true gratitude, it really lets you know deep down how much your service really meant to that person or those people. Even when my gift for service is a hug, that is a loving gesture that lets me know I have made a difference.

In the end, it's best to realize that everything is perfect and is playing itself out in the most perfect way, even if we're a little too close to the forest to see any of the trees.

[Quantum Blue]

On charging money for "spiritual" services: YouTube - ABRAHAM HICKS Why Charge So Much $170 (1997 Clip) For Abe Seminar

Also, they say in another clip (that I have yet to locate at the moment) that lowering their prices does not help another person become more wealthy. It's instead like saying, "I see that you cannot bring wealth to yourself on your own, so I will do it for you." That holds them in a place of low wealth and reinforces their belief that they require assistance to change their circumstances, that they lack the power to change their life. It's like throwing money into a bottomless pit. Diving into quicksand does not help the person trapped there. Rather, it disempowers all parties.

However, being a shining example of wealth and inspiring others to rise to meet you in wealth benefits all simultaneously. That's what I do as a professional clairvoyant, medical intuitive and LOA instructor, I light fires in people, empower them, remind them of their unlimited nature. They can take it from there, they always do. My goal is not repeat customers, only referrals.

Incidentally, you can manifest free stuff all you like, I've done it, myself. But it's just as much fun manifesting money and then spending it. Either way, what bliss!

QB

[Frankmat]

Originally Posted by Joebenz

I totally understand that they must have a living. Some psychics are doing their best and can charge a certain amount for it and this is totally fine.
What i'm truely talking about are the ones who charge you 300$, sell 200$ for a wooden pendent or are making a whole business about it.
When it's under 100$, that's what i call a good deal for me.
I agree what Jeremy said, It's a gift from god.
It must serve others and not being exploited for money.

I'm divided on this one a bit... because "exploit for money" can be a judgemental thing. I know someone who is psychic herself and thinks any psychic that charges over $20 is not real and a ripoff... where myself I have paid $750 for a 1 hour session and it was the most detailed reading I have ever had and worth every cent.

So basically... I don't believe it is a gift from god necessarily. Everyone is psychic... some are more natural at it than others... but even the most natural psychics are not going to be very good psychics at all without putting in a tremendous amount of time, energy and maybe even sacrifice in relationships towards their craft.

Having said that though.... people who have put time and effort in... and become very very good at what they do.... are under no obligation to "serve others"... and as a result do it for what people consider reasonable.

What we do can be extremely healing and helpful... much in the same way that going to a concert and listening to an amazing voice provides the same joy... but everyone has choices. You can go and listen to one of the best singers in the world for $200 a ticket... or you can go to your local karaoke bar and take your chances for $10.

All about demand at the end of the day! As I said... I paid $750 for a reading with Lisa Williams. I was happy to pay that because I considered her not only one of the best... but I was paying for her time and because her time is so much in demand. She currently does 1-2 readings a month... so you have to pay for the best! Others who are rabid fans of hers... were upset that she charged so much and that it was as you said... a gift she had to share.

Just not sure I believe in that though. The other side of that... is that I also know several psychic mediums who became very well known through television... were only charging $100 a reading... and ending up with 3+ year waiting lists... where in some cases the same people were ringing them over and over again to get "weekly updates".

This isn't really serving the purpose and helping those that need to be helped the most by having 3 year waiting lists.... so they were actually forced to cancel their waiting lists... increase their prices to in some cases $400 a reading... which of course had people up in arms... but it meant those that REALLY needed the reading... got to see them straight away... where those that didn't... thought twice about using psychics as a switchboard to make decisions for them.... if you kind of get what I mean!

[Joebenz]

i see it makes sense.
i've heard multiple times by the general public who don't believe in any of this saying "if they charge you money, that means that they are fake" wich now i understand that it is wrong. But the fact that mediums charge money is the reason that peaple don't believe in this because they think that it's only for the money.
If they didnt charge anything, these peaple would say "ah, they are not doing this for the money, there must be something. let's check it out" and there would be more believers.
i'm not saying that i'm against what you guys said. i totally agree and i understand now. But the problem is this world and the money system.
I think that the world would probably be a better place if everyone believed in life after death, spirit guides, the power of healing etc...

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by Joebenz

I totally understand that they must have a living. Some psychics are doing their best and can charge a certain amount for it and this is totally fine.
What i'm truely talking about are the ones who charge you 300$, sell 200$ for a wooden pendent or are making a whole business about it.
When it's under 100$, that's what i call a good deal for me.
I agree what Jeremy said, It's a gift from god.
It must serve others and not being exploited for money.

It's a supply and demand thing. Just like any other service or goods. Apparently there are enough people willing to pay $300/$500 range.

[Frankmat]

Originally Posted by Joebenz

i see it makes sense.
i've heard multiple times by the general public who don't believe in any of this saying "if they charge you money, that means that they are fake" wich now i understand that it is wrong. But the fact that mediums charge money is the reason that peaple don't believe in this because they think that it's only for the money.
If they didnt charge anything, these peaple would say "ah, they are not doing this for the money, there must be something. let's check it out" and there would be more believers.
i'm not saying that i'm against what you guys said. i totally agree and i understand now. But the problem is this world and the money system.
I think that the world would probably be a better place if everyone believed in life after death, spirit guides, the power of healing etc...

Sadly yes.. a lot of the general public think if they are making money then they are fake... which is sad.... but that is more down to the fact they they don't believe there is an exchange of services for that money.

A psychic reading is not tangible to anyone but the person receiving the message. It's not like asking a photographer for wedding photos... being charged $10,000 and then getting some pictures back. A 3rd party can see the exchange of photos... but they can't see the importance of a simple message to someone.

I think that is the real issue. Not that the money makes them think psychics are frauds... but that they think psychics aren't real anyway... and the money just gives them a convenient way of having a go.

I know lots of psychics that work for free for places like the Police.... I bet those people ignore the work they do though.