What Happens To The Souls Of Suicides?

[Captainkirk1987]

This is a question for the channelers and psychics. I'm wondering what happens to the souls of suicides? Do they all burn in hell forever, do they go to a different place than the rest of us that will die naturally, do they get reborn and forced to relive their lives until they learn? Do they stay on earth for a week or 2 then go to heaven? Whats your opinions?

My opinion is this. I doubt god would judge a suicide because evidently if someone is suicidal they aren't mentally stable, especially if that particular person thinks about it a lot they're apt to try it again. God would probably make them relive their life later on (reincarnation). I'm sure there would be some obstacles in the suicidels way though after he / she is long and dead. What do you guys think?

[supertom]

Same treatment as other souls, but their feelings and depression will carry on with them and they'll probably be the same on the other side.

IMO souls that suicide are the ones who are learning the lesson of self-love which is probably the hardest lesson.

[kvsouth]

Good question, and one that I've always pondered--esp since a friend's husband committed suicide this past summer. He had a brother who did the same many years ago, and a mother who was in and out of mental institutions all of her life. He was a gentle man, very introverted, and had a hard time expressing emotions all of his life. I do believe he was genetically prone to suicidal depression with his family history--and the planning that went into the final act made it obvious that he had thought for a long time about it. His wife is now in agony, truly believing he is burning in hell for eternity.

I do not claim to know the answer. But, contrary to what so many around here believe (not in the forum, but where I live), I truly do not believe that they burn in a lake of fire for eternity. It doesn't "feel" right for me to think that, if that makes any sense. Even prior to his passing, it never "felt" right to believe that. What does feel right, if I can count on my gut feelings, is that he is passed over on the other side with the same sadness/depression, and, possibly more with the realization of what he had done. To me, that would be hell--just not the fire and brimstone type. I believe he may be unable to reach the higher realms due to the way that he left, and, while he does have the opportunity to achieve a higher spiritual state, it may take a long time. As Supertom said, he may still need to learn the lesson of self-love to develop--something that is not easy. I truly believe that.

[Captainkirk1987]

Its just for some reason after my mom died I couldn't stomach the thought of god sending somebody to hell because they were mentally ill. It would make more sense to make that soul learn self love. He / she may not learn it in this life but I'm sure he / she will learn it in the afterlife or in their next life. So do the souls of deceases loved ones collect the suicidal and make them realize what they have done?

[Summerbreeze]

if you have never made(hold!) the conscious, honest(!) effort to build your life to the better, you tend to be overwhelmed, every time you (have to) do something it feels like a big effort because you lack the basics. The flow is missing and everything seems like an effort for just to survive. reaction and survival mode makes me depressed, too.
This world is a more or less safe playground to develop the spirit. On the downside feeling empty and without sense can be here a big problem, if we fail to realize ourselves.

I seriously don't think we get punished in a way, that's a bit a social conditioned assumption from people grown up in families, where the kids where punished for not doing specific things. So was i and the most where so.
We sleep deeply because the circumstances here are like they are. So we chose to take that step of personal growth with us, whether we see the whole or not and it can be tough times if we forget ourselves being responsible and are easily able to enjoy the ride. That happens to everyone, nobody is perfect. Everything we do is try and experiment, the ego wouldn't name it that way, but the substance of experience is more liquid and fluent, if we act naturally. Even water has a structure, but not directly visible to us.

~sb

[Anniebugs]

I don´t believe the Universe is as judgemental as we can be since it grasps the whole picture and is more compassionate, understanding, accepting and balancing than any idea, dogma or belief we humans can produce. Following this line of thought it makes a kind of "sense" to me that the soul of a suicide continues its evolution in whatever (next) level of conciousness it is meant to do so and just proceeds on its journey. My father had an incredibly unhappy life and committed "slow" suicide. It took me years to process the effect it had on me before I was able to "let him go" but I can really feel his soul glowing now.

[Mato Kinze]

It's been my experience that the emotions that cause one to commit suicide in the first place keep the soul from being able to continue its journey into the next experience.

For us to be able to move on, we have to divest ourselves of the baggage of this experience. Suicides generally have sooo much baggage that they aren't able to release it without help.

Luckily, there are LOTS of helpers.

Some take longer than others, but I believe that eventually they ALL make the transition.

[bluestar]

I will tell an experience I had once which was part-conscious, but as it was an astral projection which melted into a vivid dream-like state, I can't cite it absolutely as evidence...but anyway....
I went out of body, was fully conscious (this was about 15 years ago) Then I kind of got carried away on one of those very strong "Astral Breezes" and the whole experience changed into a dreamlike state, but very vivid.

I met a young woman, about 17 or so, sitting on a low wall in a street somewhere. She was crying. I went to her and sat with her and asked her what was wrong. She told me she had committed suicide, and wished she hadn't and was afraid. I accepted that, and asked her why she had done that. She said her boyfriend had left her, and she took drugs and vodka. But didn't really want to die. But now she knew she was dead and couldn't move on, didn't know what to do. I held her hand, and comforted her, and hugged her. Then just behind us I saw some people waiting. They had such an aura of pure love about them, their energy was heart warming. They were waiting to receive her and take her with them, but she wouldn't go because she was still confused.
I asked her if there was anything I could do to help her. She answered "Yes, please could you get the little box my sister gave me when we were kids?"
(I can't remember how this box materialized, but somehow it did, and I gave it to her. It was a small, unremarkable black box with some pattern on it. When the girl got it she smiled, she seemed lifted, and thanked me.
I asked her if she was ready to move on, and she said yes, she was. She had stopped crying. Gently I led her over to where the people were waiting for her, and she went with them. And I was pulled backwards by some force, and kind of "Thrown" back into my body.

All I can say is -if this was definitely a real experience with a suicide -she was received with love and respect on the other side. But from what I could ascertain, she had no strong religious or pre-conceived notions of "burning in Hell" or anything like that embedded in her mind. It might have been different if she had.

[Mato Kinze]

Originally Posted by bluestar

I will tell an experience I had once which was part-conscious, but as it was an astral projection which melted into a vivid dream-like state, I can't cite it absolutely as evidence...but anyway....
I went out of body, was fully conscious (this was about 15 years ago) Then I kind of got carried away on one of those very strong "Astral Breezes" and the whole experience changed into a dreamlike state, but very vivid.

I met a young woman, about 17 or so, sitting on a low wall in a street somewhere. She was crying. I went to her and sat with her and asked her what was wrong. She told me she had committed suicide, and wished she hadn't and was afraid. I accepted that, and asked her why she had done that. She said her boyfriend had left her, and she took drugs and vodka. But didn't really want to die. But now she knew she was dead and couldn't move on, didn't know what to do. I held her hand, and comforted her, and hugged her. Then just behind us I saw some people waiting. They had such an aura of pure love about them, their energy was heart warming. They were waiting to receive her and take her with them, but she wouldn't go because she was still confused.
I asked her if there was anything I could do to help her. She answered "Yes, please could you get the little box my sister gave me when we were kids?"
(I can't remember how this box materialized, but somehow it did, and I gave it to her. It was a small, unremarkable black box with some pattern on it. When the girl got it she smiled, she seemed lifted, and thanked me.
I asked her if she was ready to move on, and she said yes, she was. She had stopped crying. Gently I led her over to where the people were waiting for her, and she went with them. And I was pulled backwards by some force, and kind of "Thrown" back into my body.

All I can say is -if this was definitely a real experience with a suicide -she was received with love and respect on the other side. But from what I could ascertain, she had no strong religious or pre-conceived notions of "burning in Hell" or anything like that embedded in her mind. It might have been different if she had.

Have you ever experienced anything like since?

[MasterRishi]

I can tell you for absolutely certain that a person doesn't go to hell for committing suicide, mostly because there really isn't a place that we think of as hell. There is no pit of fire and brimstone where you burn for eternity. What greater good could something like that possibly serve? Since our ultimate goal is to ascend to a higher version of ourselves as individuals and as a species, it makes no sense that you would get stuck in one spot for eternity for killing yourself. I can't tell you who first had the idea that suicide was an unforgivable act, but I assure you it isn't. It's simply another choice that one is allowed to make in their existence of freewill.

When we pass from the physical, we are often taken to a place where we can be educated on the things that we did and the choices we made during our physical lives. We are given the opportunity to learn from things there that we might have been unable or unwilling to learn from here. Then we are allowed to make the choice of going back into a physical existence or staying in the purely spirit for a while and learning from that.

Death is never an end to anything, regardless of whether the person dies in their sleep, is killed accidentally, is murdered or commits suicide.

I'm actually very glad that you asked this question, as I've had many people approach me over the years concerned for the souls of people they've known who have committed suicide. Considering how many belief systems there are that preach about the unforgivable nature of this act and how heinous it is in the great book of sins, it's not surprising that so many people encounter fear when confronted with this subject. Trust me when I say, the angels guide you along your path after this life, regardless of what you have or haven't done. Just remember that each path is different and unique.

In regards to Bluestar's experience, many times a persons sudden death, whether self induced or not, will cause them to become very confused and they will choose to stay on this plane a while longer. Sometimes it's because they don't want to move on, sometimes it's because they aren't aware that they've even passed. This is often how spirits remain in our reality and become what we often refer to as "ghosts". But I do agree that even when they pass over confused, they are met by light beings who offer them nothing but pure unconditional love and welcome them on to the next phase of their journey.

Freewill is always a part of our journey, in this life and in any others. Remember that there is no right choice or wrong choice, there is simply choice.

[bluestar]

Originally Posted by Mato Kinze

Have you ever experienced anything like since?

Only once....that time it was a little boy about 8 or so who had been involved in a car accident with his parents (not a suicide) He died, they survived. He was scared out of his wits. The people (I mentioned before) were waiting for him, but they couldn't just take him, he had to go of his own free will. And he wouldn't. He wanted to know where his mother was. He was freaked out.
I gathered that is what happened because he said the car crashed. I just kind of "knew" what had happened , that his parents were still alive. Can't remember how I knew that.
I talked a bit to him and tried to comfort him but nothing was working. I then had an inspiration, and asked him if he wanted to play a game while we were "waiting". He didn't, but I kept suggesting this. Eventually he stopped crying to listen to my idea.
There was a gap about 30 feet or so between us and the people waiting for him. I said I bet I could cross that gap in....6 leaps! Could he do it better than that? I took one leap, two leaps, and then came back. He got involved. He said he could maybe do it in four or five, to beat me. I asked him if he wanted to try. I told him he would get to the kind people if he did. He agreed he'd try. So I said right let's go. See who can do it in 5 leaps!! And off he went. I went halfway with him, but by then he'd crossed, and he went with the people.
They had exactly the same aura of love with them as with the young suicide.

[Mato Kinze]

Originally Posted by bluestar

Only once....that time it was a little boy about 8 or so who had been involved in a car accident with his parents (not a suicide) He died, they survived. He was scared out of his wits. The people (I mentioned before) were waiting for him, but they couldn't just take him, he had to go of his own free will. And he wouldn't. He wanted to know where his mother was. He was freaked out.
I gathered that is what happened because he said the car crashed. I just kind of "knew" what had happened , that his parents were still alive. Can't remember how I knew that.
I talked a bit to him and tried to comfort him but nothing was working. I then had an inspiration, and asked him if he wanted to play a game while we were "waiting". He didn't, but I kept suggesting this. Eventually he stopped crying to listen to my idea.
There was a gap about 30 feet or so between us and the people waiting for him. I said I bet I could cross that gap in....6 leaps! Could he do it better than that? I took one leap, two leaps, and then came back. He got involved. He said he could maybe do it in four or five, to beat me. I asked him if he wanted to try. I told him he would get to the kind people if he did. He agreed he'd try. So I said right let's go. See who can do it in 5 leaps!! And off he went. I went halfway with him, but by then he'd crossed, and he went with the people.
They had exactly the same aura of love with them as with the young suicide.

I honor your wisdom. I've never been so subtle. I've always had a slight desparation and seem to end up trying too hard. Thanks for sharing.

[Captainkirk1987]

I'm shocked at all the answers and wonderful feedback. I've questioned the heaven and hell concept and mulled it over a 1000 times. I pitted it against logic, I researched and got heavily into paranormal. I'm seriously beginning to think that EVERYTHING does happen for a reason and I cannot stress the word "Everything" enough. . Its also helping me get over my fear of death.

[ellesbelle]

I don't remember going to hell, I just know I'm here again but this time I'm willing to stick around and clear my karma and learn the lessons I need to learn.
Past life regression is a wonderful way to heal, well IMO of course peace and blessings

[Summerbreeze]

The point of life is that every soul goes to hell for eternity, invariably most of you will have at least one lifetime in your many reincarnations, in which you will do something bad, like stealing a candy bar or like watching accidentally in the neckline of your neighbors wife. Being scared to death and to do nothing wrong feeds the whole purpose, we can't remember the agreement, but we love to play that kind of game.

So life is a tough game, the last one who went trough his incarnations, without doing something bad, like mentioned above, wins the game and receives all the stolen candy bars.

Sorry, but I cant help being horrified, how many people think that they might go to hell and how ridiculous this concept is to me.