New Remote Viewing game

[t4488]

Describe the target. [5293/7144]

[Anniebugs]

The first image that popped up was some kind of aircraft. With brown and green coloured patches and circles (yellow/white) painted on it. Maybe one of those little model ones?

[t4488]

Nope, sounds like an analytical overlay to me. You locked on to the target, got some data then your ego mind made a judgement, and picked something that matched your initial data. I can see where you got some correct data, then jumped to a conclusion.

Did you do an ideogram?

[Anniebugs]

I don't know what an ideogram is. I know very little about remote viewing theory. I have tried to read things about it but they sound very complicated to me and I don´t have enough time or the patience to study them in depth. I saw your post last night, made no assumptions but kept in mind to bring it back up the moment I woke up this morning. I usually do that about 5-6 am and that is when answers to questions usually come up. In the country I live they call it "consulting with the pillow". I can´t visualize. A neurologist told me my brain works too fast to be able to do it and besides I had major brain surgery performed on me two years ago. This morning I brought up the number (without "seeing it or remembering it") and patchy-military-like colours came up and something similar to an aircraft wing. I wasn´t "relaxed" as they say in these exercise webs. I was still half asleep in that "twilight zone". Not very scientific, I admit and I would really like to learn to do it properly.

[t4488]

I am sure you will learn something about AOLs when you see the feedback. Probably the biggest problem with RV is shutting down the mind from AOLing. You saw something that reminded you of an airplane wing. The way to RV is to not make the judgement that it IS an airplane wing and continue to gather data. I know you are on target because the data is amazingly accurate but your judgement isn't. You are definitely a natural.

[Nimue]

I don't seem to get in sync, I get a bunch of random stuff, but I'll give it a go just for fun...

First impression: it's an animal as the center of focus (maybe a whale or a bear), and a simpler background, either blue-ish or brown-ish. Vague, I know.

Second impression: Green airplane wing with a red star in a red circle at its edge-clouds around (RIGHT HERE I did the mistake of reading the comments, although I got some diffrent details )
Third impression, after a serious try to focus: an object shaped like a hanged towel or like a bunch of vines with 2 colors of grapes.
Final guess: a triangular knife base with 2 colors on it, or a plastic spoon for shoes with flowers drawn on it...

I described all the things I thought to see what works better for me... I wish I hadn't read the comments, though...

[t4488]

Wow, you guys are pretty good.

[Nimue]

Thx, although I still don't know what exactly I got right

About when do you plan to reveal the picture? I want to keep an eye for it

[t4488]

Here is something that may help separate data from judgements. If you go this site you can download a word descriptor list. You can go throught this list while focusing on the target and use it to concentrate on data.

Learn Remote Viewing

An ideogram is a quck scribble/doodle to help you focus on the target. Many people decode these to help judge the target. For example a sharp angle in mine usually means something manmade, a loop usually means a lifeform etc.

[t4488]

Originally Posted by Nimue

Thx, although I still don't know what exactly I got right

About when do you plan to reveal the picture? I want to keep an eye for it

Maybe in a couple of days to give some more people a chance to try. How do you post a picture btw? I was looking at posting a couple of sample ideograms and couldn't figure it out.

[Anniebugs]

Some more stuff flashed up while I was walking my dog. I still "see" something wingshaped. Now it's maybe silvery and smaller, like the wings of a little ornament figure, a little bird or the type of "wings" air crew wear as badges. Also a sense of restriction, security. A cage? Nothing specific. This is tiring

[Nimue]

Originally Posted by t4488

Maybe in a couple of days to give some more people a chance to try. How do you post a picture btw? I was looking at posting a couple of sample ideograms and couldn't figure it out.

Do you want to upload a picture that is already online or a picture that is in your PC?

If it is in the net, you right-click on it, choose "picture properties" (or sth like that, my PC is in Greek) and copy the URL of the picture. URL = the adress that shows where the picture is (not the adress of the whole page that has the picture, it's a special adress).
Then come in this site, go where you write stuff, choose the little painting with the mountains that is above at the menu, and paste the URL there.

If you want to upload a pic that is in your PC, you have to get it in the net first. There are many sites where you can do this fast and easy.
For example, this one:

ImageShack® - Online Photo and Video Hosting

Then you get the URL that is ready in a box somewhere under the pic. Or you can post the link to the whole page, if you want.

Hope that helps

[Anniebugs]

Hey T4488! This link looks really good. Thanks. Going to give it a try it to see if I can learn to be a bit more "disciplined" at this. At least now I know what AOL means: analytical overlay

[t4488]

Sample ideograms

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/6537/ideo3.jpg

Thanks Nimue.

[Nimue]

No problem

The article looks interesting, I'll try next time

[t4488]

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/7346/shktar.jpg

It certainly bears a striking resemblance to an airplane. Nimue got the marine animal and the water background with the airplane shape. I'm sure you can see where something shaped like an airplane morphed into an AOL of an airplane. Great job.

[Anniebugs]

Wow! Great picture T4488!

Now I can see what havoc AOLing can wreck. The question is how do I learn to separate wing-shaped, silvery from all the rest. For me the water was "sky" and to be honest the shape was more missil type than aircraft though I did not want to write it down, so I got that right too. Probably the blotchy military typed pattern I "saw" came from an association of ideas between my vision of the shape and the word "target".

But, yes, this has been very enlightening about RW. Thanks.

[Anniebugs]

Nimue: You are really good!!!!!

[Nimue]

Thanks
I should learn to stick with my first impression already, though (whale)

You're really good too, Anniebugs! It looks like a plane very much!

t4488, how does the game go on? Do we wait for you to post a new picture?

[t4488]

Originally Posted by Anniebugs

Wow! Great picture T4488!

Now I can see what havoc AOLing can wreck. The question is how do I learn to separate wing-shaped, silvery from all the rest. For me the water was "sky" and to be honest the shape was more missil type than aircraft though I did not want to write it down, so I got that right too. Probably the blotchy military typed pattern I "saw" came from an association of ideas between my vision of the shape and the word "target".

But, yes, this has been very enlightening about RW. Thanks.

In what is known as CRV (Controlled RV) or Trv (Targeted RV) which are basically the same thing you are writing your impressions on paper as you go in a specific order down the left side of the paper. When you get an AOL, on the right side of the paper you write AOL, then underneath it you write the AOL (in this example AIRPLANE), underline it, then drop your pen for a second or two to let AOL dissipate. Then you continue.

As you gather further data you become more specific. You also sketch pictures. You can then further delve into more elements of the target.

This is the original military CRV manual.
Firedocs Remote Viewing : The CRV Manual: Section Contents

This a good RV site.
TKR Remote Viewing - Index

Personally, I found learning from videos the best for me, though it is kind of expensive and not everyone needs to learn that way.

Here is a video of a woman RVing on camera for a LA news team.
Remote Viewing Demonstration while our News Cameras were Rolling!

[t4488]

It is supposed to be a WWII plane with a shark mouth painted on it.
You might even have seen an image or plane like this in the past.

[t4488]

Originally Posted by Nimue

t4488, how does the game go on? Do we wait for you to post a new picture?

LOL, I never thought that far ahead. I can post another target, or someone else can. Simple targets with only a couple of elements are prbably best for beginners.

[Anniebugs]

Can´t open picture of aircraft-shark

One of the links has directed me to something called Associative Remote Viewing which is precisely what I was searching for though did not know what it was called. Thanks, T4488.

[t4488]

Originally Posted by Anniebugs

Can´t open picture of aircraft-shark

One of the links has directed me to something called Associative Remote Viewing which is precisely what I was searching for though did not know what it was called. Thanks, T4488.

You can Google "ww2 shark airplane images"

Ah, ARV. Don't listen to all the bad things about it, it can work. I have learned quite a bit about it but most of that info I consider proprietary. You need to practice and have a rock solid no ambiguity cue. If you are doing a binary ARV there can only be 2 outcomes, no more, or you wll only get random data. For example, I have had little success on ARV sports wagering, as anytime there is a tie my results go haywire.

[t4488]

New target [17A5/54M2]

[Nimue]

Yay!!!!

First impression was a ladybug or a flower in a field (white sky), second was a metal pyramid or pencilcase on a dark desk. (there are too many distractions around right now, I'll try again later)

[Nimue]

The impression that remains steady is that there is a lower line of more intense color, and a spheric-like or diamond-like (not too extended in the 2 dimensions right and left) object in the center. Definitely not a big animal like cow/whale. The colors could be black and white with some green and dirty blue.
Duh, distracted again...

[sups]

i get a flower and a knife...lol this is definitely a distraction.

[t4488]

Originally Posted by Nimue

The impression that remains steady is that there is a lower line of more intense color, and a spheric-like or diamond-like (not too extended in the 2 dimensions right and left) object in the center. Definitely not a big animal like cow/whale. The colors could be black and white with some green and dirty blue.
Duh, distracted again...

You have some striking elements. Again. Did you do an ideogram?

[Nimue]

Nice!
Ideogram via writing things on a paper, you mean? Nope, I have it all in my head. There's a "dimension of thought" in my brain in which I can see visual clues about what's there, but haven't figured out how to properly shift on that level of "seeing". Except some flashes, it's blurry and confusing, and I sometimes draw stuff from my memory in my tries to support whatever my third eye sees.
A mess, in short.
But I did some exercise on hidden images of remote viewing sites, I guess it helped.

About when do you think of posting the picture?

Edit: I think the central subject is about as far from the front of the picture as its size (which is quite common in photography, but my first try on seeing depth anyway ). Still haven't gathered what it is, I could write a list of the things that have flashed (ship, christmas tree ornament, pine tree, round dotted object, pencilcase...I think it's not a ladybug after all, at least not a real one, it's rather something inanimate, a plant at the extreme case. Ship and dotted item the most outstanding up to now)