Spiritual/energetic healing - Open Discussion

[Tanemon]

Wow, we had an awesome discussion of Reiki on a thread called "Who here is Reiki attuned?" And after a while, Weena and I were Private-Messaging about starting an open discussion of all effective healing approaches & methods. What I mean is methods or approaches that are spiritual or energetic, though they may act on a person at the inner (spiritual, emotional, psychological) levels or at the purely physiological and physical level.

So please do get involved... you're welcome to post in this thread, whether you've had anything (or not) to do with Reiki, Quantum Touch, etc.

[Nimue]

I'm an empath, so I use the way I sense the other person's body energy to do better massage. It works nicely. (I can't always sense one's energy well, but it's always helpful when I do)

I often seem to be a calming presence too, the reason depends. I think I can figure out what people want in general.

[Weena]

One of my major "healing" has been through an ISET session (integrated self empowerment therapy). I had had a bird phobia for 26 years (you're not allowed to laugh at this. Oi! I can hear ya laugh, quit it). As some of you may know having a phobia is quite disabling, and it's thank to my son that i decided to tackle the problem at last (we were on holiday and i ran inside each time a magpie came to land on the deck...whilst my two years old would "talk" and make eyes at the birds and the birds were singing for him...i felt a bit silly).

So, the healer took me through a long guided meditation and retrained my brain to let go of the fear. As she said to me, she used words that would work on my subconscious, because just saying something like "you should not be afraid of birds" my conscious brain would go "duh i know this" but it would not work. Anyway... the session worked. Now lots of birds come on my deck rail and i never run inside .

An other type of healing I've liked was an aura and chakra cleanse. Now, this healer has not been trained by an other person, only by her spirit guides (she also is a fantastic psychic for past/future readings). She said to me when there's stuff to be cleaned she yawns a lot during the process. I'm unsure how she does it exactly, i know she "cleanse" then sends different colours in the aura to seal it (colours such as green and pink). She did a distance one on me and i felt it as if she was standing next to me. I also got her to do one for my son, and before she did it she even found his most direct past life (she gets first name, places and even dates!).

I don't go to healers a lot (once or twice a year if needed) but my mother does have a bit of an addiction and she tries all the possible things out there. I know at the moment she regularly has "chromotherapy", amongst other things. And she found a very spiritual homeopath who gave her pills that actually healed problems she's had for years (can you guess she is loosing faith in western medicine after this?).

I know i definitely want to learn lots of different healing methods but i have to wait...till my kids go to school. For now it's all about the babies so i just have to wait patiently, but i'm starting to make a plan in my head of which would be my favourite modalities.

Thanks for the thread Tanemon! how about you, what's your experience?

[Nimue]

I had a baloon phobia for 15 years, if it helps

Nice experiences, Weena.
I also do the yawning-while-cleaning-stuff thing. There is a simple, traditional practice here to achieve it. In old times no one knew about the eastern chackra/aura mambo-jumbo, but there are prayers that, with some good intention behind them, make bad energies go away. Prayers are passed from grandmas to granddaughters and it is meant to work against the evil eye. I have found out I can use the prayer's basic intention to cleanse myself, too. Sending colors? Sounds sweet! I don't believe much the mainstream ideas about auras, can't see them either, but I think I can send something that feels pink/green. I'll try it next time. Thanks for mentioning, Weena!

[Tanemon]

Well, my own experience is mostly in terms of the inner-healing kind of stuff (more or less along the lines of what you've talked about, Weena, with the healing of your bird phobia). I gave a brief account of my story in post #11 in the thread "Who here is Reiki-attuned?" In this forum. Some other good things have happened since the outcomes contained in that little story, but it's mostly in the same vein.

This inner healing has been hugely valuable to me, for sure.

At the same time, my experience of physical healing through spiritual or energetic methods has been a bit limited - both in terms of what I've experienced as a recipient in these sessions, and in terns of what I've been able to provide to people as a practitioner of Reiki myself.

That doesn't mean I'm a skeptic about the possibilities. I've actually collected a number of well-founded stories about direct and powerful physical healing. And I've been attempting to connect, on the internet, with people who have received such remarkable benefit themselves, or to connect with people who practice healing at a level where they are beginning to be able to provide such benefit to others.

Personally, I tend to believe that we in the modern West have been slowly entering the "foothills" of a great mountain range of spiritual healing. I believe there have been certain individuals - whether born in India, Tibet, China, the Philippines, Brazil, or North America - who have been conduits for immense healing power. But they've always been few, and maybe in the future there will be a much higher proportion of these people amongst humanity. Some individuals are born with these gifts, or the gifts develop spontaneously in the course of some individuals' lives

What has become available since the late 1970s in the way of widespread training (in Reiki, Quantum Touch, and other approaches) just constitutes our newly opened doorway. Many will be walking through this doorway and eventually taking the paths up the heights.

[elucidate]

I like to work with colour healing, and have always had an intuitive understanding of the effects that colours can have on our moods, as well as working with crystals...though I used to be a total skeptic and scoffed at crystal people...I realized I could benefit more from being open and receptive to them and much of my previous skepticism fell away after that.

It's funny...for a few years I was quite depressed, and found that whenever I moved house, I would move into a room that had the walls painted yellow...which was definately a colour I needed more of for a while...so the universe is always looking out for me.

Healing hands are another method I discovered I was capable of working with, and from then on realized it's everyone's birthright to be able to heal themselves and be empowered this way.

I am currently learning from Rose Rosetree's book "cutting cords of attachment" which is a permanent form of psychic surgery to remove toxic energetic cords and transform relationships. The method is called "Energy Spirituality" and I feel SO wonderful whenever I practise it.

Hopefully, one day I can get to a stage where I am prolific with being able to perform this on others to heal their auric field, which I think is the fastest method, far superior to regular therapy, though I think many forms of therapy and counselling are very helpful...I think it all starts and ends with the energy field, and our emotional, mental, physical and spiritual health is intrinsically linked to this aspect of our being.

[Tanemon]

Thanks for that, elucidate.

[Tanemon]

A couple things to add here...

One is: Hey, I mentioned that I've been collecting some stories about very powerful physical healing brought about by spiritual/energetic means. For anyone interested in reading a few of these, I've got brief accounts of three of them on this page:
Tanemon's Profile - tribe.net

Just scroll down to "Miraculous Cures" (two short accounts there), and "An Example of Strong Healing". These stories are meant to convey what is possible. I'd love to hear or find new stories, if someone here cares to share a story or post a link or something.


And another thing: Sometimes people feel more comfortable sharing on a topic like this through a personal message rather than posting on a thread. One person with a background in Reiki (attuned to Reiki and experienced with it) told me that they had recently been instructed and attuned into an energy or method called Shamballa. This person said it is very powerful and that in the course, the healer is taught to use energy in some valuable and different ways than with Reiki.

I want to keep good faith and not mention the person's name on-line. But I felt this was interesting to hear about.

[codenamesmiley]

Gosh, this aspect is ever-changing for me.

Let's see, with the cord cutting thing, I was shown a visual by my guides that showed me and the person that I was to cut the cord from as seated about 10 ft from one another. I seen the golden cord that went from our solar plexus to one another. IN this visual, there was also a black sort of serpentine looking cord that wrapped around the golden cord like a vine..that also went from me to this other person. I was shown to snip the vine not the chord and affirm "I allow all divine Christ light connections to remain, while removing any connection that is draining or harmful for either of us.". Upon snipping vine and affirming, at the same time see the other person moving to a distance of about 20 yards (60 ft?) from you and the serpentine cord unwinding and dropping away from the golden cord..leaving only the golden cord and a bit more personal empowerment space between the two of you. I noticed a difference the very first day, after I did this, too. ;-) I have not had to go back or re-do any cord cutting, since I was shown this method.

I was shown that this way, you allow for the divine connection that brought this person into your life (most likely on a positive note) and it just removes any connection energetically that hits those internal triggers every time we interact, that result in lower vibrational impacted energies within our own self..

My latest successful healing maneuver involved my Mother in the hospital with a 47,000 white blood count(normal is around 8000). She laid up there for 3 weeks..and prayers and medicine were not helping. I thought she was not coming home. She had asked me to pray for her healing. While she did not use her free will to say "Becky, come heal me"...I took her plea for prayers as an invitation from her for any divine healing to take place. I journeyed to her in 4D (lucid state) and before seeing her, I seen my father. (knowing his fears are what kept her from verbalizing her belief in my abilities..in her request). I stood over my Dad as he slept in his bed and I seen my heart connected to his and I showered his essence with unconditional and infinite love(green and pink light, involved). I wished him peace inward (this was also shown visually in a cool blue light, with some pink in there too) and that he always KNOW that on a soul level, no matter what happens on a human level, this would never change..how much he is loved. I then placed my hand on his heart chakra and envisioned myself going from his heart..through a series of high speed ductwork lined in indigo light(about the best way I can describe it)..sort of that journey through a wormhole..to emerge out the other end where it pops out at an intersection of the Crystalline healing grid. (I see this as a green light dodecahedron around Earth). I set the intention of the connection to allow for healing to come to him through his heart at the cellular level, to help heal his lungs and restore his energy. (Taking care of Mom really takes a lot out of him...they live hours away)

I then went to my Mother's hospital bedside. I took a moment to see my heart connection to hers, and gave her the same flow of unconditional and infinite love that I have for her on a spiritual level, and asked that she be given an Earthly moment to actually FEEL this upon awakening and healing. (so she would KNOW she experienced divine love and healing, and know it was on the soul level as well as cellular.) I also connected her heart space to the healing grid the same way that I did with my Father. With her I affirmed "She asked for prayers for healing. She accepts her healing. Mom, you are now connected to the grid and may heal to any level you choose at this time." That very next day, she woke up with no fever and her white blood count had started to drop (about half what it was). The day after that, she was not only able to walk and do her physical therapy (hip replacement is what got her in hosp. 3 weeks prior) but she was able to hike up 4 stairs by herself and full of energy. She had healed to the level that she expected and prayed for.

This could be all coincidence. This could all be very real. I would like the opportunity to try it again, and get feedback myself. If anyone out there resonates and would like to try it and let me know how it worked for them, I would appreciate hearing about it, sincerely.

Thank you for this thread, Tanemon and Weena.
I look forward to keeping up to date here.

In love and light
Peace and gratitude,
Rebecca

[Philemon]

Thanks for sharing, Rebecca. That was very enlightening. I'm just getting started with some similar work, and I like the subtleties that you applied.

[Nimue]

I double that! Many thanks for sharing!

[Mato Kinze]

I combine my knowledge and experience in Western Healing with my understanding of spiritual connections.

Before I could earn money for a job, I was a volunteer in a hospital for several years. When I turned 16, I became a transporter in the hospital. I was sort of the "Mascot" for the OR. Several of the surgeons allowed me to be in the Operating Rooms during their surgeries and allowed me to watch. When I graduated from Highschool, I became a Nurse's Aid. During my college years, I went from being a CNA to a Med Tech to a Phlebotomist and IV Tech.

The really interesting thing about all of this is that I never had ANY desire or calling to be a doctor, nurse or any kind of "healer". These were all just jobs I "fell into" to pay the bills while I was in school.

Fast forward 20 years and I found myself following an American Indian spiritual path and learning about "Healing" from a spiritual perspective.

Now, when I help someone, I use the knowledge I've gained in Western Medicine to help "direct" the Healing energies funneled through me by The Creator and Ancestors. I visualize the affliction in a physical sense and help the flow of the energy to "reshape" the afflicted area or system.

I still don't consider myself a "Healer". It is really not my calling. It's just something I can do when the need arises. Like a neighbor who's handy with small motors can help you out when your lawnmower won't start.

[Tanemon]

Originally Posted by Mato Kinze

I combine my knowledge and experience in Western Healing with my understanding of spiritual connections...

Now, when I help someone, I use the knowledge I've gained in Western Medicine to help "direct" the Healing energies funneled through me by The Creator and Ancestors. I visualize the affliction in a physical sense and help the flow of the energy to "reshape" the afflicted area or system.

For most of us, I'm sure it's a good idea (for a number of reasons) not to get too attached to applying the label "healer" to ourselves.

But what you've written about concerning your approach (with your medical knowledge functioning to direct the healing energies that come from the Creator & the Ancestors) is interesting. How about telling us more?

Like, for instance... Maybe relate a few stories about how these healings have worked out? (like, what kind of feedback did you get or see to demonstrate to you that the healings actually worked?)

Also, when you mention "the Ancestors" - are these your personal ancestors (souls of people in your blood lineage)? or are these ancestors of your Native-American spiritual teachers (healers)?

[codenamesmiley]

Originally Posted by Mato Kinze

I still don't consider myself a "Healer". It is really not my calling. It's just something I can do when the need arises. Like a neighbor who's handy with small motors can help you out when your lawnmower won't start.

Love it

[HiImJeremy]

I know a healer who has a long record of healings and he's been doing it for about 65 years (he's 81 now). He goes into a deep meditative state, then his guides direct to the place in the body that needs healing and he is also supplied with the tools to fix the problem. Now when he was younger, about my age (16-18) he read all about the human anatomy and body and when he became an abulance driver was able to watch autopsies and really see first hand how the body was put together and how what worked and whatever. His first healing at 16 was with a young lady who had varicose veins. When i discussed it with him he said to me

" Boy, how would you get rid of varicose veins" while sitting there in his suspended pants and cardigen.

not knowing whether he meant from a spiritual perspective or a physical one i simply said i would massage them.

He laughed at me and said that wouldn't do S**t. lol. So he told me the story.

He was with a group of 3. He said any more then four in those days and they would send you all off to the loony bin for psych evaluation. Anyway he lead them into meditation ( at 16 mind you) and they were lead to cut the vein right at the top of the leg near the groin. He said they all got in a little boat with shovels and picks and went down the veins and hacked out all the blockages along the way making sure it all flowed smoothly all the way down. They then went all the way back up the vein and sealed the cut with spit and not too long after, the varicose vein dissapeared completely.

Can you see how massageing the vein wouldn't do anything at all where a boat and some shovels can? lol.

Once he does the healing he sends the thought through the etheric to the person ( he does mostly absently healing because he lives in australia.) And it changes the energy on the mental plain and whatever other plane it alters. And then physical change soon follows if the patent excepts the healing they are getting.

I thought this would be interesting to add. haha

Love and Light!

Jeremy

[EFT4Dating]

I think energy healing has a ton of potential. yuen method is chinese energetics form of energy healing. saw some interesting videos demonstrations on youtube.

[Weena]

Elucidate, don't start me on crystal energies Oh well I guess this thread is for all types of subtle energies, uh?

Crystals that have worked for me:

Labradorite next to my bed got rid of my disturbed sleep nights

My awful, awful morning sickness disappeared the week i wore a danburite

Bloodstone activated getting rid of an energy vampire in an harmonious way

Citrine gives me a mega mood boost anytime i wear it

I have a secret combo of crystal infusion drops to attract abundance

I have crystals combined with oils given to me by other hippie friends of mine

My black tourmaline chunk has been absorbing all my computer electro-magnetic "crap" for a long while

there are crystals everywhere in my home...and there's always a peaceful vibe around too... (well, unless my children are grumpy).

Also, when i buy new crystals, they are rainbow less...and after a while in my house lots of them have rainbows appearing (still no clue why)(but i sure love it). I also love amethyst for meditation purpose but I don't wear them on me...overload of purple... i know purple is the colour of spirituality etc but i just don't like cold colours on me.

[Mato Kinze]

Originally Posted by Tanemon

For most of us, I'm sure it's a good idea (for a number of reasons) not to get too attached to applying the label "healer" to ourselves.

But what you've written about concerning your approach (with your medical knowledge functioning to direct the healing energies that come from the Creator & the Ancestors) is interesting. How about telling us more?

Like, for instance... Maybe relate a few stories about how these healings have worked out? (like, what kind of feedback did you get or see to demonstrate to you that the healings actually worked?)

Also, when you mention "the Ancestors" - are these your personal ancestors (souls of people in your blood lineage)? or are these ancestors of your Native-American spiritual teachers (healers)?

My Grandmother is 97 years old. She lives with us. She has a number of issues with her physical body. One of the most painful for her is Rheumatoid Arthritis. The RA is in her spine and her knees.

When she has a flair up, I will sit with her and "massage" her knees or back.

What I am really doing is opening myself up to be a conduit for the Healing power of The Creator. I focus on the area most afflicted - for instance a knee - and See into the joint. I See the swelling, the build-up of fluid, the inflamation of the tendons, the exacerbation of the nerves - and I begin to visualize those areas repairing themselves. I See the fluid being reabsorbed and taken away by the blood vessels, I See the tendons reducing, I See the nerves nice and white instead of red and black.

She tells me the pain goes away almost immediately and the swelling will be gone within a few hours.

She is a Southern Baptist and if I ever told her that I do this NOT in the name of Jesus Christ, she'd stroke out. So, I just tell her that I "message" her joints. I think she "knows" but she doesn't want to admit it.

Oh, and when I speak of "The Ancestors" I speak of all of those who have come before us as a People. Not just "my" Ancestors, and not just the Ancestors of American Indians, but ALL our Ancestors.

[Tanemon]

Ahh...! This discussion is getting very good.

[Tanemon]

People who have been posting on or checking into this thread might find the following interesting:
Emergence of healers & healings - Goddessence - tribe.net

This is a link for discussion about a siritual healer (Dr. Willard) whose specialty was/is dental work! The third poster on the thread (Sarah) offers another link - to the guy's own Web site.

This link that I've provided, above, is to one of the Tribe.net forums. I seem to remember there was another thread on Tribe.net around the same time in which someone who'd actually met Dr. Willard while he was doing sessions with people.

[pianoperformer]

I've been having a lot of interesting experiences lately.

I've been getting into a technique called Matrix Energetics. Getting into that has amplified everything though, including Reiki for me. The energy flow through my hands has been amplified significantly, but I notice that it is more effective and stronger if I just myself back off mentally and let things happen, not trying to direct anything or "fix" anything. I just try to allow any possibility to manifest itself. I'm not perfect at this yet, but I've been getting a lot better, I think, and have been seeing better and better results.

It's gotten to the point where if I touch someone in a certain way, even sometimes unconsciously, they will start to fall backwards. This has sometimes happened without me intending to, but I can consciously direct it, too.

Just a quick story about how this healing has really manifested itself recently in an amazing way:

My fiance (Christine) has congenital glaucoma. She is probably one of the worst cases out there, so much so that very few doctors will see her. Even an expert in glaucoma who thought he knew what he was doing, saw that they were much more challenging than he expected. She has now had 19 surgeries in the past 20 years, the first one being when she was just six days old.

We just found out two weeks ago that she needed surgery on her left eye, because the tubes that were put in to drain the fluid in her eye had extruded, and they needed to remove the rest of it and put in a new one. With her eyes, especially the left one which is in worst condition, anything can happen, and the doctor was very nervous about the surgery.

I went up to Christine's house last week to support her through the surgery. I started doing Reiki and other energy work, including the two-point technique, the day I got there, all throughout the week. I got there the day after Christmas, and the surgery was that Tuesday.

After the surgery, the doctor was really surprised. She said that everything went so much better than expected. Everything fell into place just perfectly and there were no complications, like what usually happens with Christine. The doctor was planning on seeing her the next day, but it was so good that we could go back home and the doctor would see her a few days later to check up on her.

The next few days were really painful, but each time I'd work on Christine, she said the pain would go away. It healed a lot faster than it usually does, too.

While it wasn't a complete healing, and she still needed the surgery, I really do think that the energy healing got her through it a lot better than it otherwise might have been.

[Epiclunatic]

I know a few powerful healers. Most people I know can heal though (or at least show the potential), but these people go further then the standard clearing of dense energies in any body. I'd say the way I and most of my friends do it is similar to Reiki in ways, but also works on long distances and isn't limited to touch.

A 14 y-old friend of mine once cured someone's kidney stones. Really impressive, her friend doesn't feel a thing anymore. A Guru I know is without a doubt the most powerful healer I know of. He simply touches you, brushes a spot with his finger... And your back suddenly stopped hurting.
I've caught myself healing headaches and the like on occasion. Of people at the other side of the globe.

There's no solid technique that I know of for all of us... It's just a plan of action. First just realise that something is off, and then look at the person and get an intuitive impression of what's wrong and where it comes from. Here's where it gets tricky to explain because everyone I know does this differently. I go on sight and touch though, I find it works best most of the time. Then just influence the energy present by either taking it out, or changing it by will and focus.

Not sure how close this is to Reiki though, but I'll be following a course for it soon, so curious how that'll go.

[Tanemon]

Originally Posted by Epiclunatic

There's no solid technique that I know of for all of us... It's just a plan of action. First just realise that something is off, and then look at the person and get an intuitive impression of what's wrong and where it comes from. Here's where it gets tricky to explain because everyone I know does this differently. I go on sight and touch though, I find it works best most of the time. Then just influence the energy present by either taking it out, or changing it by will and focus.

Not sure how close this is to Reiki though, but I'll be following a course for it soon, so curious how that'll go.

Reiki's approach is more automatic - at least for most people who're attuned to Reiki. No specific intention, simply the intention to allow Reiki energy to flow and for the person to heal.

If a gifted person, who can feel or read energy in a well-defined way, gets attuned to Reiki, it probably enhances their ability to use Reiki (or fulfill the healer's function) more in the way you've described. But most Reiki initiates do not start off from that "gifted" position.

Thanks for your post. Quite an interesting one.

[codenamesmiley]

I have a book on beginning Reiki. It is slim..paperback and I am sure very vague compared to the traditional teachings of Reiki. (I don't know..never really delved in to many of them.)

The basics was enough to get me in tune with the intuition to run off with it.
If you are gifted and seek a way to learn it, do beginners reiki. If you want to know if you are gifted?
See if you need another Reiki book, or if you are healing people, plants or animals. ;-)
It's just energy. You can't do much damage in the beginning. By the time you can make something go incredibly wrong for another in terms of power...you have a pretty good foothold on what is proper, necessary and what is abuse of power.

God/source doesn't call the qualified. He qualifies the called.

If you feel a calling to heal..step out of the tradition obsessive concern as per what is the best method. It is my understanding that everyone is different in how they use their tools.

When we bond with our tools and no longer seek outer human validation in the experience, we are the healer that makes the difference.

There is no real finding someone's method that works for you. (otherwise you would be having their experience, not your own).

Love and light blessings,
Rebecca

p.s. this is not aimed at any one person as an attack or anything..just truths that are spewing from me at the moment..lol

[Tanemon]

Originally Posted by codenamesmiley

It's just energy. You can't do much damage in the beginning. By the time you can make something go incredibly wrong for another in terms of power...you have a pretty good foothold on what is proper, necessary and what is abuse of power.

God/source doesn't call the qualified. He qualifies the called.

If you feel a calling to heal..step out of the tradition obsessive concern as per what is the best method. It is my understanding that everyone is different in how they use their tools.

Thanks for posting, Rebecca. Interesting stuff you wrote.

Would you mind sharing a bit? It would be interesting & inspiring to learn how you felt the call... how did you go about responding? Did you just follow your intuition? Experiment? Learn through trial & error? I can only guess, but would you mind telling us?

[codenamesmiley]

Well, I started toying with energy for pain relief back in like 2006 or so.

I just sort of feel a sense to do something energetically..and i see it happen..as if watching a demonstration..then I visualize and it is done.

I don't really put much thought into it.

Trust me, if it is a calling..you know it. You may question it for yourself or half drive yourself bonkers trying to validate it through outer human means.

Just trust what you feel and act on it. ;-)
Love and peace,
Rebecca