Attempting OBE and other things.

[MarikoHikaru]

This is long... so brace yourselves. I know you might not want to read all of it, so at the end I'll put a quick paragraph.

A few months ago, I began to become interested in out of body experiences. The day I read about it, I became so afraid for some reason, and did not sleep at all that night. Every time I felt the "vibration" sensation, I would make myself wake up. I think I was afraid of doing it at night because I didn't want to see any sort of spirit when it's dark.

Eventually, I became less afraid. Once during a nap (during the day) I knew I was asleep. I was like, okay, I'll try this! So when I knew my body was asleep, I sort of "sat up" from my body but I became afraid again so I immediately made myself get out of it, accidentally getting into sleep paralysis and scaring myself.

Another time, I was taking another nap, and I tried again. This time, I believe I went into the kitchen and saw my mom preparing food after she came home from work (I was asleep before she came home), and saw what she was wearing. When I woke up, I saw her wearing the same thing. This might have been a dream though. During the experience, I also tried to move these 5 lb weights in the kitchen around so I can leave proof that I actually did this (I'd check to see if it did move later), but when awake, there were not actually weights in the kitchen anyway. So I don't know what that was about.

But here's where it gets weird. I took another nap in my room a few weeks later (I take a lot of naps, don't I? :P) and what happened was I began to talk to my mom in my dream. Like it was a legit dream, but while I was dreaming, I opened my eyes, thinking my mom was in the room. But she wasn't. I don't know if it was actually her in my dreams. Anyway, my eyes were definitely open while I was dreaming at the same time. Then I stopped dreaming, and was like, oh wait... my body is asleep, I want to try to OBE. So like... I sat up again, and of course, I got scared again, but this time I wanted to leave "proof" again, but legit proof. I pushed my computer like a foot away from me (keep in mind that I could see all this), but not using my physical body/arm. So after that I woke up and saw that my computer was, in fact, a foot away from me. I also woke my mom up (she was napping too) to ask if she also dreamt of talking to me (out of curiosity) but she didn't even remember her dream.

A few weeks later, I did the same thing in my nap again, where I just opened my eyes and knew my body was asleep. So I tried to get out again, got scared yet AGAIN, and didn't do much. However, this time I do feel like I saw my "arms" come through my blanket (like my soul self, not my physical self). That's all I did.

Now, every time these things happen, I always go into a state of sleep paralysis after. I used to be terrified of the sleep paralysis but now I've done it so much that I just wait to get out of it and don't think too much of it.

But today, I decided to take another nap. I opened my eyes again while asleep, and knew that only my mind was awake. This time, I really couldn't move or do anything. I tried all that I could to get out of my body and it just ended up scaring me, so I tried to go back to sleep. Every time I did though, it was just the same thing over and over. I opened my eyes about 4-5 times trying to do this again, and I just keep getting scared! But what I did discover, is that I had two options: to open my eyes and keep trying OR go into a lucid dream. Eventually I got so tired of trying to OBE that I chose the lucid dream, but I'd much rather actually experience an OBE.

Also, sometimes I notice when I'm close to falling asleep, I would hear very pretty music, and sometimes when I'm half awake, the same thing happens. I just hear music in my sleep a lot... mostly classical and country (with a male's voice singing). Then I discovered this is part of clairaudient so I'm real curious.

Other things about my strangeness... haha... I believe that I am clairvoyant and recently discovered that I might be clairaudient. I am also empathic, but that might not have to do with anything.

For those of you who don't want to read all of that: Basically I have been trying to have an OBE, but I keep getting scared. I'm scared I'll see spirits and things and I am not ready for that. Also, I have no idea how to develop my clairvoyance and possibly clairaudience (which might be more powerful than my clairvoyance), so any help on that?

Sorry this is so long. D: This is the only forum I've found so far that looks promising in a reply.

[MiBeloved]

Great work. Keep it up. Make sure your room has ventilation so that when you are sleeping or OBEing, there is fresh air to breath. That would help to remove the sleep paralysis part and allow you to OBE without that.

[MarikoHikaru]

Originally Posted by MiBeloved

Great work. Keep it up. Make sure your room has ventilation so that when you are sleeping or OBEing, there is fresh air to breath. That would help to remove the sleep paralysis part and allow you to OBE without that.

Thanks! But wow, fresh air, as in maybe opening a window, would really change that?

[Midniteshowers]

I would suggest that you get an Angelite stone (Blue Anhydrite) and ether place it under your pillow or hold it at night. They are believed to be helpful with many things, including unblocking energy pathways, communication with your guides and angels, dispel fear and anxiety, and helps with astral projection and OBE's. You can find it at any new age or herbal store, and they are fairly cheap. (I paid 6 bucks for mine.) Here is a few links to sites about angelite: Angelite - Tumbled Gemstone Angelite or Blue Anhydrite Gemstones You can also Google it and find further info.
Since I have been using the stone, my fear of seeing unwanted spirits during Astral has gone away and I have had a few definite OBE's. Hope this helps and wish you the best of luck.

[MasterRishi]

In all reality, the stones and the fresh air are exactly the same thing. They are symbols, tools, to be used as an instrument for reaching a desired outcome. That's not to say that they don't have some value to some people and are not useful, but really the value of the object or practice means nothing if the person using it has no belief in it. If I hand someone a blue anhydrite and tell them nothing about it, chances are they will value it as a pretty blue rock and set it aside. That's not to say it wont work for some people, but realize that it really is only as helpful as we allow it to be. Having said that, if this helps you, than it becomes a very useful tool for you.

My best advice for having an out of body experience is this: stop trying! Your higher self will guide you into this experience when you are ready for it and not a moment before then. The fact that you still haven't had the experience is proof that you simply aren't ready for it. You admitted yourself that you have a fear of seeing entities and that you aren't ready for it, so until you can let go of that fear and come to the realization that all things are simply one thing expressed in different ways, you will continue to have experiences that fill you with fear.

You must realize that there is simply nothing to fear. Fear will close a lot of doors for you and will keep you away from having many experiences. If you simply allow yourself to have whatever experiences are best for you at that time and know that you are protected and watched and that no harm will come from you, I can promise you a fullness of experience that will extend far beyond out of body, astral projections or anything we have a name or label for. You will have experiences that you will have trouble describing to others because verbal description will do no justice to the things your mind experienced. Just stop trying to make it happen and allow it to happen naturally. Along with that, purge yourself of the fear you hold onto by realizing there is nothing to be afraid of. That is the best advice I can give you.

[MarikoHikaru]

Originally Posted by Midniteshowers

I would suggest that you get an Angelite stone (Blue Anhydrite) and ether place it under your pillow or hold it at night. They are believed to be helpful with many things, including unblocking energy pathways, communication with your guides and angels, dispel fear and anxiety, and helps with astral projection and OBE's. You can find it at any new age or herbal store, and they are fairly cheap. (I paid 6 bucks for mine.) Here is a few links to sites about angelite: Angelite - Tumbled Gemstone Angelite or Blue Anhydrite Gemstones You can also Google it and find further info.
Since I have been using the stone, my fear of seeing unwanted spirits during Astral has gone away and I have had a few definite OBE's. Hope this helps and wish you the best of luck.

Thanks! I will look into that. I am very very very afraid of seeing spirits and things, even though I know you can't get hurt. I just don't like the idea of seeing something that isn't there, that no one else usually can see. I am very positive I am not ready for that.

[MarikoHikaru]

Originally Posted by MasterRishi

In all reality, the stones and the fresh air are exactly the same thing. They are symbols, tools, to be used as an instrument for reaching a desired outcome. That's not to say that they don't have some value to some people and are not useful, but really the value of the object or practice means nothing if the person using it has no belief in it. If I hand someone a blue anhydrite and tell them nothing about it, chances are they will value it as a pretty blue rock and set it aside. That's not to say it wont work for some people, but realize that it really is only as helpful as we allow it to be. Having said that, if this helps you, than it becomes a very useful tool for you.

My best advice for having an out of body experience is this: stop trying! Your higher self will guide you into this experience when you are ready for it and not a moment before then. The fact that you still haven't had the experience is proof that you simply aren't ready for it. You admitted yourself that you have a fear of seeing entities and that you aren't ready for it, so until you can let go of that fear and come to the realization that all things are simply one thing expressed in different ways, you will continue to have experiences that fill you with fear.

You must realize that there is simply nothing to fear. Fear will close a lot of doors for you and will keep you away from having many experiences. If you simply allow yourself to have whatever experiences are best for you at that time and know that you are protected and watched and that no harm will come from you, I can promise you a fullness of experience that will extend far beyond out of body, astral projections or anything we have a name or label for. You will have experiences that you will have trouble describing to others because verbal description will do no justice to the things your mind experienced. Just stop trying to make it happen and allow it to happen naturally. Along with that, purge yourself of the fear you hold onto by realizing there is nothing to be afraid of. That is the best advice I can give you.

I definitely have to try to overcome this fear, but it's going to be a challenge. Thank you for your reply on this!