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sunnysummer · 11-18-2010, 07:24 AM

Hi all,

My little brother (who is 17) has been dealing with what doctors believe to be Schizophrenia, beginning abruptly around the end of August/beginning of September, and I experienced it first hand in October (paranoia and delusions, case closed shizo it seemed). So, I was satisfied with that diagnosis until very recently. I would like to seek advice and help from you all and am more than willing to explain the situation in as much detail as possible (along with solutions I have come up with), but before I take a lot of time doing that (and it would take a lot of time) I was hoping maybe some of you had dealt with a confirmed psychic attack so that I can formulate my opinions better.

I would also like to mention I was not the one to suggest this as being a psychic attack over shizophrenia, but my little brother who insists that is what it is. He has always been very sensitive to paranormal or 'godly' things, and truly believes it is not a hallucination (not even possibly), and that he is being physically tormented by this entity who also communicates with him using different voices. Yeah, I guess that's what all people suffering from delusions are like, but if it helps the matter, the 'change' I noticed in him in October seemed like a completely different person. It was immediately obvious to me that this was not the same boy I left at the end of summer and when he began spouting off things like 'she talks to me through my thoughts constantly' (this girl he says caused this/brought it to him) and 'i'm going to die if she doesn't die' even 'are you going to help me kill her?' all I could say to him was 'You know you sound crazy, right? none of this is real and you can't believe its real because its crazy,' that version of my brother got annoyed with me, then more or less became overly agreeable as if to end the conversation 'yeah, you're right, its just crazy ****.'

but when a similar thing was said to him TODAY by our father (and he was acting like the boy I have known his whole life, no trace of this darkness) 'it is real, in your head it's real' he was visibly hurt and just said 'go ahead and think i'm crazy like everyone else...' And I can't help feeling as though THAT is the real him and I should believe what he says when he is in his 'right' mind.

I'm so sorry, I didn't even mean to get that much into it yet. Please, if any of this rings a bell for you or you want to know more because you are interested in helping me talk this out (because ultimately I want to know if I should believe he is mentally ill and needs to be medicated or believe he is being psychically attacked and I need to find someone who knows how to correct it) I would be eternally grateful. I have tried talking about this with friends, but they are either not giving me their full attention (which frustrates me and then I don't want to talk about it) or aren't likeminded enough to level with me... and I really feel as though this community is.

Even if none of this is familiar, please tell me about your psychic attack experiences/anything you know. I want to compare and contrast as much as possible.

Thanks so much in advance. I really need guidance.

Merrick1 · 11-18-2010, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by sunnysummer

I want to know if I should believe he is mentally ill and needs to be medicated or believe he is being psychically attacked and I need to find someone who knows how to correct it) I would be eternally grateful.

Hi sunnysummer,

I believe, I could help. I have been dealing with these things in my work of a spiritual healer all the time. I will send you a PM.

Merrick

sunnysummer · 11-18-2010, 12:39 PM

Thank you Merrick, I have PM'd you back.

I noticed a few people have looked at this thread but no one said anything - perhaps that is because you cannot relate enough to say anything or whatever reason - and I just wanted to say that if you had anything you might have considered saying, please do so. I am desperate for some kind of stability and kind words have a lot of power all on their own.

To note the severity of this issue, he attempted to burn (with gasoline) the girl's house on Sunday night and has been institutionalized (by government order) since Tuesday morning. I know he is not mentally ill, and he knows it as well, but I am very afraid being in such a place and being told repeatedly that he is will... well... drive him mad.

bluestar · 11-19-2010, 01:52 AM

I can't see what harm it would do if he did continue to take his medication (just to be on the safe side) Yet also you managed to contact a very good and reliable strong Psychic who could maybe help him -as well.
Why not do both?
Then afterwards if he starts to 'come back to himself', he (or the family) could maybe ask his doctor to reduce his medication slowly and see what happens?
At that point, if he does just fine without the meds -problem solved. If not and it doesn't work, then up the medication dosage again. (with the doctor's advice of course)
What's most important here really is that he gets some peace of mind, whether that is found by psychism, or whether that is found in re-balancing his brain chemistry by chemical means....it might not matter so long as he finds balance and happiness.

merveilles · 11-19-2010, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Merrick1

I believe, I could help. I have been dealing with these things in my work of a spiritual healer all the time.

Could you tell more about this? You've seen cases where schizophrenia is caused by entities??

If it's not caused by an entity, I think this could help you:
How and When to Be Your Own Doctor | by Dr. Isabelle A. Moser with Steve Solomon
I started reading it the other day. I've only read the first chapter, but it was about how she specialized in mental patients, and was able to permanently (it seems) heal them WITHOUT MEDICATION. I believe medication should be the very last resort, so I really hope this book or Merrick can help you.

Chameleon · 11-19-2010, 02:29 PM

I'm afraid I can't offer any personal experiences. However, it wouldn't seem to hurt to approach the problem from both the spiritual and medical standpoints.

Before I read that he was actually in hospital because of violent behavior, I was going to suggest trying the spiritual approach first, but since things have gotten to the point they have, looks like you will have to do things a bit differently.

I hope Merrick can be of help! I wish I could. All I can do is send you good thoughts.

Please keep us posted on his progress!

sunnysummer · 11-20-2010, 01:45 AM

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Could you tell more about this? You've seen cases where schizophrenia is caused by entities??

I do not believe it is schizophrenia because his symptoms do not match that of schizophrenia, they are only similar. However, they are precisely the symptoms described for psychic attacks. As matter of fact, I sort of misspoke by saying 'diagnosed' as he has not been given a formal diagnosis. Before being admitted into this hospital, they were treating it as schizophrenia because that was the most similar illness and giving him the appropriate medication to fix it, but it didn't do anything and the symptoms even got worse. The hospital he is in has his status as 'Psychosis, not otherwise specified' because they have no idea what it is.

We will be keeping him on medication and in the hospital until the voices are completely gone. They changed his meds today and he's just drugged, no difference, but of course these things always take a few days.

I will keep you posted, and I am very, very appreciative of your thoughts for him. It means so much to me, as I believe thought is the best thing one can give.

rafael4490 · 11-20-2010, 02:38 AM

Hi sunnysummer,

I don't have any personal experiences, but I do study mental health. Last fall, in my Adolescent Psychology class, I watched a video on schizophrenia. There is actually biological proof for schizophrenia. It is created because the pre-frontal cortex is underdeveloped, and there has been some damage as a result. People who have this condition are usually around your brother's age. This is why he hears voices, because the pre-frontal cortex is underdeveloped.

With all that being said, I also believe that medication can help, but also harm. I believe that medication is important, especially at first. However, I feel that doing spiritual healing can also be very beneficial. Yes, schizophrenia can be caused by evil entities, but that is not often the case. It never hurts to do both medical and spiritual healing. Counseling is also very beneficial for schizophrenic patients. One form of healing that is helpful is Reiki. Natural supplements can also be beneficial, and I'm sure that he could seek a natural doctor as well.

Don't worry. Your brother will be fine. I'm sure the doctors are doing all they can to help. This is actually the toughest part because medication has to be adjusted. Once it is adjusted, he will be able to lead a more normal life.

If you need anything, please let me know.

slumberland · 11-20-2010, 03:54 AM

Vitamin B12 might help in the case that it is schizophrenia. Medications can sometimes do damage, it is very difficult to tell. Obviously whatever it is if he has turned violent he needs to be contained, there is no choice whatsoever.

I agree why not treat it spiritually regardless... this does not take away from treating it medically. The question is how?

Also I have NO IDEA if this is true but if you want you can look up "Psychological Disorders and Fasting" by Randi Fredricks - there are people who claim fasting helped cure schizophrenia, again I don't know if this is true so be careful with this information but I decided to pass it on anyhow.

So, B12 and find a spiritual healer... which might not be easy. I once knew a christian church that focused on banishing evil forces - when I came across them they helped anyone christian or not. I don't know what other branches are like. The main headquarters are in the UK, called UCKG.org, and who knows maybe they can refer you to somebody.

Wish I could say more, but may your brother recover rapidly and fully...

merveilles · 11-20-2010, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by sunnysummer

We will be keeping him on medication and in the hospital until the voices are completely gone. They changed his meds today and he's just drugged, no difference, but of course these things always take a few days.

Did you look at that book I mentioned in my last post??
And aren't there any other options besides keeping him drugged up in a hospital? That sounds more damaging than helpful. :/

elucidate · 11-20-2010, 11:06 AM

I can understand your fears here. I also think that these places can drive people mad if they weren't already!

It's important that he be able to control himself and convince these people that he is getting better, and become an academy award winning actor!When he hears these things, he needs to be able to hear them but not speak about them to anyone.

I haven't actually experienced anything of this nature, though I have had my own battle with voices that I started to understand were actually just me talking to myself. Some were "positive" and nurturing, and others are mean and judgemental towards myself.

I've also had experiences where I have had a person I lived with place curses on me, and leave wierd little dollies outside my window for me to find and spook me, though I had enough inner knowledge at the time to decide that I wasn't going to let this happen and that they can't hurt me unless I allow it, plus some other methods of dealing with the bad energy that was sent to me, from an old housemate...through kinesiology. I felt this bad energy come out of my feet, literally, like my feet opened up and the energy was allowed out.

I am not sure how it works when someone has been placed in a mental facility on government orders, so I don't really know what to say here? Does your brother have to stay for a certain period of time, or is it just a matter of convincing them that he is fit to leave?

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Thank you Merrick, I have PM'd you back.

I noticed a few people have looked at this thread but no one said anything - perhaps that is because you cannot relate enough to say anything or whatever reason - and I just wanted to say that if you had anything you might have considered saying, please do so. I am desperate for some kind of stability and kind words have a lot of power all on their own.

To note the severity of this issue, he attempted to burn (with gasoline) the girl's house on Sunday night and has been institutionalized (by government order) since Tuesday morning. I know he is not mentally ill, and he knows it as well, but I am very afraid being in such a place and being told repeatedly that he is will... well... drive him mad.

sunnysummer · 11-20-2010, 08:52 PM

He is very adament about not wanting to leave until the voices are completely gone.

Yesterday, I told him a lot about what psychic attacks are like, can cause, are caused by etc. and the best ways to begin making it go away. There is another thread in this forum regarding the woman who is being tormented through her telepathic channel, and many people suggested that she should stop speaking to the voice, and ignore its input by all means. This advice was congruent with information I found regarding psychic attacks: talking to it/responding to it/recognizing its existence only feeds the entity, gives it more power and thus more power over oneself. I told him to not speak to it, even in his head, and disregard everything it says as though it had not said it at all.

Today, he said he had been doing just that and he feels much better, so I am relieved.

He has to be on the medication and all this before being discharged from the hospital as per their policy. They cannot let him out until he is 100% stable, so there is no way to get him out before then. And, like I said, he does not want to leave until it is gone. I can understand that, something as traumatizing and overwhelming as this... even if he has to deal with unnecessary precautions and a strange environment in all aspects (even their rules are ridiculous), it is best for his safety and that of others that he remains in contained isolation and under close survelliance.

We have found, so far, two different spiritual healers. Merrick, here, has offered he and his girlfriend's services and they hope to begin working with the issue on Monday. My older brother has located another, but while Merrick and Lenka have found his family's consent is enough to perform the healing, the other healer would like certain consent from my little brother: which he has given through us, but I don't know if that is satisfactory.

I will also pass on the information about B12, thank you very much for letting me know about that. And, as always, all of your well wishes and thoughts for a fast, easy recovery are very much appreciated.

elucidate · 11-20-2010, 10:23 PM

I'm glad you found that thread about the telepathy channel abuse. I thought about it last night before bed, but got distracted and didn't mention it.

I think a lot of the time when a person is being hounded by voices, they seem so real to him and they may well be? It's important not to give them more power than they deserve though...he has to remember that he still has the power to dismiss them in an instance and that might involve listening to some heavy metal loud music that will drown them out...or playing video games that allow him to put his focus on something else other than what is going on in his head.

Maybe you can bring him some of his favorite music and even a gameboy or some sort of game to keep him occupied?

It's a good thing you found us, and I hope you feel better.

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Originally Posted by sunnysummer

He is very adament about not wanting to leave until the voices are completely gone.

Yesterday, I told him a lot about what psychic attacks are like, can cause, are caused by etc. and the best ways to begin making it go away. There is another thread in this forum regarding the woman who is being tormented through her telepathic channel, and many people suggested that she should stop speaking to the voice, and ignore its input by all means. This advice was congruent with information I found regarding psychic attacks: talking to it/responding to it/recognizing its existence only feeds the entity, gives it more power and thus more power over oneself. I told him to not speak to it, even in his head, and disregard everything it says as though it had not said it at all.

Today, he said he had been doing just that and he feels much better, so I am relieved.

He has to be on the medication and all this before being discharged from the hospital as per their policy. They cannot let him out until he is 100% stable, so there is no way to get him out before then. And, like I said, he does not want to leave until it is gone. I can understand that, something as traumatizing and overwhelming as this... even if he has to deal with unnecessary precautions and a strange environment in all aspects (even their rules are ridiculous), it is best for his safety and that of others that he remains in contained isolation and under close survelliance.

We have found, so far, two different spiritual healers. Merrick, here, has offered he and his girlfriend's services and they hope to begin working with the issue on Monday. My older brother has located another, but while Merrick and Lenka have found his family's consent is enough to perform the healing, the other healer would like certain consent from my little brother: which he has given through us, but I don't know if that is satisfactory.

I will also pass on the information about B12, thank you very much for letting me know about that. And, as always, all of your well wishes and thoughts for a fast, easy recovery are very much appreciated.

neilpage · 11-20-2010, 10:50 PM

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Hi all,

I would also like to mention I was not the one to suggest this as being a psychic attack over shizophrenia, but my little brother who insists that is what it is. He has always been very sensitive to paranormal or 'godly' things, and truly believes it is not a hallucination (not even possibly), and that he is being physically tormented by this entity who also communicates with him using different voices. Yeah, I guess that's what all people suffering from delusions

DELUSIONS ... are in the mind, voices ... are in the ear.... channels are differendt

True... no doctor am I... however, I know difference... I AM NOT CRAZY, nor will I let to be allowed! just guessing ...Is not shizopherna an thought to believe others to be inside o self one?

HEAR ME ................ DELUSIONS ARE NOT VOICES!!!!!
no advice can i can i give you because no doctor am i ...
but crazy ... I think not of your brother... wait time out!

... because i wish more I can do!

elucidate · 11-20-2010, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by neilpage

DELUSIONS ... are in the mind, voices ... are in the ear.... channels are differendt

True... no doctor am I... however, I know difference... I AM NOT CRAZY, nor will I let to be allowed! just guessing ...Is not shizopherna an thought to believe others to be inside o self one?

HEAR ME ................ DELUSIONS ARE NOT VOICES!!!!!
no advice can i can i give you because no doctor am i ...
but crazy ... I think not of your brother... wait time out!

... because i wish more I can do!

Are you Yoda?

neilpage · 11-20-2010, 11:13 PM

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are you yoda?

......................nope just a person with experience!

elucidate · 11-20-2010, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by neilpage

......................nope just a person with experience!

...Are ya sure? You speak just like him

merveilles · 11-21-2010, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by elucidate

Are you Yoda?

lol... I don't think he/she knows English well enough to understand why you asked that...

sunnysummer · 11-21-2010, 04:01 AM

lol.. well, he hears the voices in his head, not his ears.

And no I tried to bring him my gameboy and my ipod but they wouldn't let him have them. He's not allowed to listen to 'angry sounding' music... which includes metal and rap =\ the place is pretty ridiculous. He just got cd player priviledges, so I'm making him a Girl Talk CD since he just came out with a new album and that's my brothers favorite artist.. so maybe that will be distracting.

neilpage · 11-21-2010, 08:23 AM

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lol... I don't think he/she knows English well enough to understand why you asked that...

America, Proud I am; however articulate self with ones thoughts I do not do well

" I hope I'm ok here* because I belong nowhere & I like it here.

elucidate · 11-21-2010, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sunnysummer

lol.. well, he hears the voices in his head, not his ears.

And no I tried to bring him my gameboy and my ipod but they wouldn't let him have them. He's not allowed to listen to 'angry sounding' music... which includes metal and rap =\ the place is pretty ridiculous. He just got cd player priviledges, so I'm making him a Girl Talk CD since he just came out with a new album and that's my brothers favorite artist.. so maybe that will be distracting.

Yes, I understand that he hears them in his head and not his ears, but don't you think that if he can replace those voices with music that distracts him in his head then that could take his focus off what he is hearing in his head?

I mentioned it because I have worked in the mental health field before, and know that this is a method that has been used to help people who are caught up in hearing voices, to pull them out of that and distract them...that's why I suggested it!

If he isn't allowed these things, then it's a moot point anyway!

sunnysummer · 11-22-2010, 04:10 AM

i'm sorry, the first part was for neilpage because he was saying something about delusions being in the head and voices being in the ears.. and i wasn't sure if i had clarified that specificially.

and yes, you are right, that would certainly be a valid option, but it is more or less moot because they do not allow a lot of things. He is allowed the radio, but only for as long as it takes for another patient to ask for it. and he most certainly should be doing things to distract him from these voices, but the reality is he normally is by himself in his room, either trying to will himself to sleep or actually sleeping... so all he has are his own thoughts. That can't be helpful at all... I don't know how to correct it because he has the opportunity to interact with the other patients instead, or even watch movies or something, but he chooses not to.... and then again I understand that, because most of these boys have serious behavior problems and are a lot to take in, let alone interact with constantly.

elucidate · 11-22-2010, 04:27 AM

It's probably wise of him, as he may inadvertently take on some of their symptoms if he is around them for any length of time...depression can be contagious and if they are hearing voices as well, then it might feed into his own stuff...so yeah, he is right to isolate himself from them.

If he isn't willing to distract himself though, their isn't much else you can do...which I'm sure you know.

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i'm sorry, the first part was for neilpage because he was saying something about delusions being in the head and voices being in the ears.. and i wasn't sure if i had clarified that specificially.

and yes, you are right, that would certainly be a valid option, but it is more or less moot because they do not allow a lot of things. He is allowed the radio, but only for as long as it takes for another patient to ask for it. and he most certainly should be doing things to distract him from these voices, but the reality is he normally is by himself in his room, either trying to will himself to sleep or actually sleeping... so all he has are his own thoughts. That can't be helpful at all... I don't know how to correct it because he has the opportunity to interact with the other patients instead, or even watch movies or something, but he chooses not to.... and then again I understand that, because most of these boys have serious behavior problems and are a lot to take in, let alone interact with constantly.

amethystcures · 11-25-2010, 03:40 AM

Yes I do have experience. Yes when someone or something is casuing psychic distrubance, it can look like forms of mental illness.

Get him an Amethyst Necklace, not an expensive one, but one with natural tumbled stones, one that is short like a choker. Put it on him for about 20-30 mintues at least. Watch the spell be broken. If he is not allowed jewerly, smuggle it in, it will be worth it. Amethyst can heal mental illness, emotional damage and release the negative energy put into his Aurua by entitites as well as by spells, and anything else.

Long story, but I swear it's true, and I really want to help as many people as I can.

supertom · 11-25-2010, 06:04 AM

The information available on psychics online and in books are mostly based on doing good, connecting to spirit guides, empath but theres nothing on the darker side, we dont even know what we're up, we dont even know what to look out for.

amethystcures · 11-25-2010, 06:30 AM

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The information available on psychics online and in books are mostly based on doing good, connecting to spirit guides, empath but theres nothing on the darker side, we dont even know what we're up, we dont even know what to look out for.

HEre's a book that will tell you more detail on that:
Amazon.com: Practical Psychic Self-Defense: Understanding and Surviving Unseen Influences (9781571742216): Robert Bruce: Books

11-18-2010, 07:24 AM	#1 (permalink)
sunnysummer Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 7	Psychic Attacks - any personal experiences? Hi all, My little brother (who is 17) has been dealing with what doctors believe to be Schizophrenia, beginning abruptly around the end of August/beginning of September, and I experienced it first hand in October (paranoia and delusions, case closed shizo it seemed). So, I was satisfied with that diagnosis until very recently. I would like to seek advice and help from you all and am more than willing to explain the situation in as much detail as possible (along with solutions I have come up with), but before I take a lot of time doing that (and it would take a lot of time) I was hoping maybe some of you had dealt with a confirmed psychic attack so that I can formulate my opinions better. I would also like to mention I was not the one to suggest this as being a psychic attack over shizophrenia, but my little brother who insists that is what it is. He has always been very sensitive to paranormal or 'godly' things, and truly believes it is not a hallucination (not even possibly), and that he is being physically tormented by this entity who also communicates with him using different voices. Yeah, I guess that's what all people suffering from delusions are like, but if it helps the matter, the 'change' I noticed in him in October seemed like a completely different person. It was immediately obvious to me that this was not the same boy I left at the end of summer and when he began spouting off things like 'she talks to me through my thoughts constantly' (this girl he says caused this/brought it to him) and 'i'm going to die if she doesn't die' even 'are you going to help me kill her?' all I could say to him was 'You know you sound crazy, right? none of this is real and you can't believe its real because its crazy,' that version of my brother got annoyed with me, then more or less became overly agreeable as if to end the conversation 'yeah, you're right, its just crazy ****.' but when a similar thing was said to him TODAY by our father (and he was acting like the boy I have known his whole life, no trace of this darkness) 'it is real, in your head it's real' he was visibly hurt and just said 'go ahead and think i'm crazy like everyone else...' And I can't help feeling as though THAT is the real him and I should believe what he says when he is in his 'right' mind. I'm so sorry, I didn't even mean to get that much into it yet. Please, if any of this rings a bell for you or you want to know more because you are interested in helping me talk this out (because ultimately I want to know if I should believe he is mentally ill and needs to be medicated or believe he is being psychically attacked and I need to find someone who knows how to correct it) I would be eternally grateful. I have tried talking about this with friends, but they are either not giving me their full attention (which frustrates me and then I don't want to talk about it) or aren't likeminded enough to level with me... and I really feel as though this community is. Even if none of this is familiar, please tell me about your psychic attack experiences/anything you know. I want to compare and contrast as much as possible. Thanks so much in advance. I really need guidance.

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11-18-2010, 12:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
sunnysummer Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 7	Thank you Merrick, I have PM'd you back. I noticed a few people have looked at this thread but no one said anything - perhaps that is because you cannot relate enough to say anything or whatever reason - and I just wanted to say that if you had anything you might have considered saying, please do so. I am desperate for some kind of stability and kind words have a lot of power all on their own. To note the severity of this issue, he attempted to burn (with gasoline) the girl's house on Sunday night and has been institutionalized (by government order) since Tuesday morning. I know he is not mentally ill, and he knows it as well, but I am very afraid being in such a place and being told repeatedly that he is will... well... drive him mad.

11-19-2010, 01:52 AM	#4 (permalink)
bluestar Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 775	I can't see what harm it would do if he did continue to take his medication (just to be on the safe side) Yet also you managed to contact a very good and reliable strong Psychic who could maybe help him -as well. Why not do both? Then afterwards if he starts to 'come back to himself', he (or the family) could maybe ask his doctor to reduce his medication slowly and see what happens? At that point, if he does just fine without the meds -problem solved. If not and it doesn't work, then up the medication dosage again. (with the doctor's advice of course) What's most important here really is that he gets some peace of mind, whether that is found by psychism, or whether that is found in re-balancing his brain chemistry by chemical means....it might not matter so long as he finds balance and happiness.

11-19-2010, 02:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
Chameleon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 108	I'm afraid I can't offer any personal experiences. However, it wouldn't seem to hurt to approach the problem from both the spiritual and medical standpoints. Before I read that he was actually in hospital because of violent behavior, I was going to suggest trying the spiritual approach first, but since things have gotten to the point they have, looks like you will have to do things a bit differently. I hope Merrick can be of help! I wish I could. All I can do is send you good thoughts. Please keep us posted on his progress!

11-20-2010, 02:38 AM	#8 (permalink)
rafael4490 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Olean, NY Posts: 8	Hi sunnysummer, I don't have any personal experiences, but I do study mental health. Last fall, in my Adolescent Psychology class, I watched a video on schizophrenia. There is actually biological proof for schizophrenia. It is created because the pre-frontal cortex is underdeveloped, and there has been some damage as a result. People who have this condition are usually around your brother's age. This is why he hears voices, because the pre-frontal cortex is underdeveloped. With all that being said, I also believe that medication can help, but also harm. I believe that medication is important, especially at first. However, I feel that doing spiritual healing can also be very beneficial. Yes, schizophrenia can be caused by evil entities, but that is not often the case. It never hurts to do both medical and spiritual healing. Counseling is also very beneficial for schizophrenic patients. One form of healing that is helpful is Reiki. Natural supplements can also be beneficial, and I'm sure that he could seek a natural doctor as well. Don't worry. Your brother will be fine. I'm sure the doctors are doing all they can to help. This is actually the toughest part because medication has to be adjusted. Once it is adjusted, he will be able to lead a more normal life. If you need anything, please let me know.

11-20-2010, 03:54 AM	#9 (permalink)
slumberland Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 128	Vitamin B12 might help in the case that it is schizophrenia. Medications can sometimes do damage, it is very difficult to tell. Obviously whatever it is if he has turned violent he needs to be contained, there is no choice whatsoever. I agree why not treat it spiritually regardless... this does not take away from treating it medically. The question is how? Also I have NO IDEA if this is true but if you want you can look up "Psychological Disorders and Fasting" by Randi Fredricks - there are people who claim fasting helped cure schizophrenia, again I don't know if this is true so be careful with this information but I decided to pass it on anyhow. So, B12 and find a spiritual healer... which might not be easy. I once knew a christian church that focused on banishing evil forces - when I came across them they helped anyone christian or not. I don't know what other branches are like. The main headquarters are in the UK, called UCKG.org, and who knows maybe they can refer you to somebody. Wish I could say more, but may your brother recover rapidly and fully...

11-20-2010, 08:52 PM	#12 (permalink)
sunnysummer Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 7	He is very adament about not wanting to leave until the voices are completely gone. Yesterday, I told him a lot about what psychic attacks are like, can cause, are caused by etc. and the best ways to begin making it go away. There is another thread in this forum regarding the woman who is being tormented through her telepathic channel, and many people suggested that she should stop speaking to the voice, and ignore its input by all means. This advice was congruent with information I found regarding psychic attacks: talking to it/responding to it/recognizing its existence only feeds the entity, gives it more power and thus more power over oneself. I told him to not speak to it, even in his head, and disregard everything it says as though it had not said it at all. Today, he said he had been doing just that and he feels much better, so I am relieved. He has to be on the medication and all this before being discharged from the hospital as per their policy. They cannot let him out until he is 100% stable, so there is no way to get him out before then. And, like I said, he does not want to leave until it is gone. I can understand that, something as traumatizing and overwhelming as this... even if he has to deal with unnecessary precautions and a strange environment in all aspects (even their rules are ridiculous), it is best for his safety and that of others that he remains in contained isolation and under close survelliance. We have found, so far, two different spiritual healers. Merrick, here, has offered he and his girlfriend's services and they hope to begin working with the issue on Monday. My older brother has located another, but while Merrick and Lenka have found his family's consent is enough to perform the healing, the other healer would like certain consent from my little brother: which he has given through us, but I don't know if that is satisfactory. I will also pass on the information about B12, thank you very much for letting me know about that. And, as always, all of your well wishes and thoughts for a fast, easy recovery are very much appreciated.

11-21-2010, 04:01 AM	#19 (permalink)
sunnysummer Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 7	lol.. well, he hears the voices in his head, not his ears. And no I tried to bring him my gameboy and my ipod but they wouldn't let him have them. He's not allowed to listen to 'angry sounding' music... which includes metal and rap =\ the place is pretty ridiculous. He just got cd player priviledges, so I'm making him a Girl Talk CD since he just came out with a new album and that's my brothers favorite artist.. so maybe that will be distracting.

11-22-2010, 04:10 AM	#22 (permalink)
sunnysummer Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 7	i'm sorry, the first part was for neilpage because he was saying something about delusions being in the head and voices being in the ears.. and i wasn't sure if i had clarified that specificially. and yes, you are right, that would certainly be a valid option, but it is more or less moot because they do not allow a lot of things. He is allowed the radio, but only for as long as it takes for another patient to ask for it. and he most certainly should be doing things to distract him from these voices, but the reality is he normally is by himself in his room, either trying to will himself to sleep or actually sleeping... so all he has are his own thoughts. That can't be helpful at all... I don't know how to correct it because he has the opportunity to interact with the other patients instead, or even watch movies or something, but he chooses not to.... and then again I understand that, because most of these boys have serious behavior problems and are a lot to take in, let alone interact with constantly.

11-25-2010, 03:40 AM	#24 (permalink)
amethystcures Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 9	Yes I do have experience. Yes when someone or something is casuing psychic distrubance, it can look like forms of mental illness. Get him an Amethyst Necklace, not an expensive one, but one with natural tumbled stones, one that is short like a choker. Put it on him for about 20-30 mintues at least. Watch the spell be broken. If he is not allowed jewerly, smuggle it in, it will be worth it. Amethyst can heal mental illness, emotional damage and release the negative energy put into his Aurua by entitites as well as by spells, and anything else. Long story, but I swear it's true, and I really want to help as many people as I can.

11-25-2010, 06:04 AM	#25 (permalink)
supertom Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Homeless Posts: 3,548	The information available on psychics online and in books are mostly based on doing good, connecting to spirit guides, empath but theres nothing on the darker side, we dont even know what we're up, we dont even know what to look out for.

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