Is chaos magic(especially sigil) some metaphysical malpractice?

[Whitelotus]

I've been long wanting to try out Sigil magic and whenever I browse about to read about it it leads to occult sites with black magic and the cult practices of the like, which gives me a queasy feeling.
Is sigil magic just a formulated way of intention manifestation or there is more about it?
I'm mainly reluctant to try it because I am a spiritual seeker(starter) and want to maintain a high level of vibration.

Does someone has any thoughts on it? I'm really confused.

[bluestar]

John Hewitt seems to have written some pretty sane and decent stuff about sigil magic. You could maybe check out some of his stuff....google him, see what you come up with.

[Whitelotus]

Thank u Bluestar..
I'm familiar with the steps of sigil.What I'm concerned about is if its 'morally right' to practice sigil or does it comes under the realm of black magic.

bcos whenever i browse abt sigil topic, it leads me to pages with wicca, black magic, occult n stuff which gives me an uneasy feeling.

[Richful]

Hi again,
I answered ur above question in ur other post but wanted to add a comparison I've been thinking about for a few days.

Steve Pavlina has used the same ideas as Chaos Mages.
Why? Meta-beliefs. The idea that beliefs can be worn and shed like clothes. Using a system of belief for a particular purpose and then casting it aside.

When Steve was first forming his ideas on the power of belief this is exactly what he did, embedding himself in a belief system and living it. His world took on the characteristics of his chosen belief system. Thus he worked his way around to the theory of subjective reality. An impressive feat. A very chaos magic approach too, trying the belief and observing the results. While Steve did it all by himself, the Chaos mages did it first - back in the 80's

Rather than Black or White I think of them as Grey Magicians. Originally they believed all magic was relative so they took from all traditions and made new methods. It's really just eclectic magic.

If the occult (occult meaning hidden) makes u uneasy maybe best to avoid it. But remember that most of the LoA stuff was channeled, most new age techniques are channeled from "higher sources". Magic practice uses invocation (to invoke a spirit/god/being into a person) for similar tasks, however magic has a long tradition of banishing rituals to ensure nothing sticks around and reality checks should always be used when dealing with spirits and such
Peace.

[Whitelotus]

Thank u very much Richful,
That was a sound explanation. Particularly the one abt beliefs. I am wondering if one could use sigil to alter one's belief system itself. As in if i want to shift my belief from objective to subjective reality,( as in completely ingrain the idea) can a sigil achieve that.
I am asking this because certain practices are restricted to certain things alone.eg. I'd read that a pentagram or cabbalah ritual only works for material things, as in even manifesting a job cannot be done using this pentagram ritual.
Are there limitations of that sorts for sigil.

I have no prejudices against channelling n metaphysical stuff as long as it is not a demon they r invoking. I've come across quite a few ppl in the forums discussing invoking demons.Now i dunno why someone wants to do that.
I guess as long as one doesn't affect the free will of others the practice of magic is fine.

[elucidate]

Yeah, me either. I've noticed that too about people, kids probably, thinking it would be cool to summon up a Demon. As if they wouldn't crap their pants if they caught a glimpse of one!

Think they must have played too much dungeons and dragons when they were kids?