Questions to Astral/Lucid/Old Hag Syndrome

[Summerbreeze]

Hi.


Tonight i began again dream-journaling for better dream recall and becoming lucid. I started with remembering 4 dreams which is not bad for the beginning.
Lately it is for me easier to do Astral Projection than becoming lucid.
In fact every time I get lucid it turns to an Astral Projection, which is not my goal.
Tonight i became lucid again then there was again the white blur and i felt my astral body leaving here. I was already imaging myself sitting in a sport s car
In the dream i was lying on my back in crowded place, so i realized it is a dream. next to me was a guy telephoning and looking at me. This night i slept on my back, which i usually never do. OK then i told you that i began projecting again, instead of becoming lucid. Yes then my body got pulled back, was sleep paralyzed and i heard a very deep grotesque laugh. I had this already as a child. It was not a charming laugh but I stayed cool. Maybe was I a little bit aggressive because i wanted to hit that entity so hard
I had no fear the whole time, so I didn't attract it by my vibration?

So my questions are:

How do I prevent projecting if my goal is to become lucid?

How do I prevent Old Hag Syndrome?

How often do you have Old Hag?

Do you have some resources on Astral Projection?
I'm able to leave my body without problems, but I'm totally bad at using my astral body.

Do your guides sometimes set this things up to take the fear from you ?
Because they send me signs that I should discover the other dimensions but i feel a bit insecure, because I can't control the astral body or know what is our there.


Just feel free to write and offer you bit of information!

SB.

[Chameleon]

Originally Posted by Summerbreeze

Hi.

How do I prevent Old Hag Syndrome?

How often do you have Old Hag?

Well...I feel really ignorant!!
What is Old Hag Syndrome? (LOL) Please educate me here!

[Summerbreeze]

Old Hag Syndrome is when you wake up sleep paralyzed and a entity is disturbing while you are paralyzed. Nothing to fear because it can't hurt you.
I think it can only occur if you are having an obe.

The 'Old Hag" Syndrome

Hmm i today think it WAS because of my low vibration, have some subtle suppressed stress but this night my astral travel was nice, although i just wanted a lucid dream. But every time i can't stop projecting.

[ang569]

My understanding is that your level of consciousness while in your dreaming all determines whether you are lucid, oobe or Astral projecting? Being Lucid is simply that you are aware you are dreaming. I would rather be most aware and Astral project. Why do you prefer Lucid dreaming instead?

[Chameleon]

OH...I have heard of it as "night visitors."

Used to happen to me as a child quite frequently, but not so much as an adult.
I don't recall ever hearing anything, but there was always someone in the room with me, sometimes leaning over the bed at me, and even though it looked like a family member there was a sense of malevolence that was very frightening.

I read the "scientific" explanation on your link....but I don't know if I buy it or not.

If I were you, I would do some "psychic clearing" rituals in your bedroom/house, as well as ask for white light protection before attempting either lucid dreaming or purposeful astral projection. I do believe that, although the "scientific" explanation may be partially true some of the time, that another explanation is that there are in fact not-so-nice non-physical entities that occasionally are drawn to us in those circumstances.

[Summerbreeze]

@ang569:

I want to have some fun, and work with my subconscious Thanks for your answer, next time i'm dreaming i will focus less on becoming aware...

@Chameleon:
i don't buy in the scientific explanation too, it should just be a description of the phenomena.
Thanks for the advice, i've no experience in this - how i do that, i hear of it form time to time. I didn't looked closer at it as i read, that some even could be attracted by this light.

And yes there are some bizarre things out there

[Chameleon]

STOLEN from Queen of Wands on the "veil lifted to hear a voice" thread:

"as there are light spirits so there are lower vibrational ones.
I would not buy into what they say one single bit, they thrive on fear.
Bless your house and family with burning sage (smudging) or holy water or whatever works for you. Then say a protective prayer/blessing for your child and family , picture everyone surrounded with white light of God and that should take care of that.
I say something is messing with you and you don't need to give it any attention.
I hope this helps and I wish you well."

Also, I would like to recommend a book that has been mentioned several times on other threads, "Psychic Self-Defense" by Dion Fortune.

[Summerbreeze]

Muchos Gracias

I think I'll buy the book on my next book order.

[ang569]

I am too scared to astral project. I once did it accidentally, when my Mom died. Went on a journey through the astral plane searching for her. Freddy Kruger was hiding behind me. At least I think it was Freddy. Although it could have been my maltese because he has a red and blue striped sweater too. Seriously...I am not kidding.

[sharshar89]

the old hag syndrome is fake.. google sleep paralysis.. thats the scientific name for that phenomenon

[Wasmeanttobe]

I got sleep paralysis last night.

It wasnt like an old hag sitting on my chest though, i only ever got that when trying to do awake to lucid attempts.

Im of the mind that one should imagine a white sheild or bubble of light around yourself if you are doing anything related to astral traveling.

Also, you may not have attracted any entitys with fear, but maybe with frustaration of not acheieve your goals straight away?

You did discribe your frustration at the entity/ voice.

I think the best way to avoid this sort of thing is to "fight the current" less and go with what feel natural.

If you are gifted with the ability to astral travel, perhaps your failures thus far at lucidity have been a hint to stay focused on astral?

my thoughts,

-wasm

[Summerbreeze]

thanks, wasm, i think you are right.

Btw ist no gift its just consciousness, found nothing on the net, so this is MY latest theoretical picture of it



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