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10-16-2010, 07:20 AM
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I am from Russia, since 2005 I have been living in New York. In Russia I attended The Occult College in Ekaterinburg, and it was there that I got acquainted with a very extraordinary person, a psychic reader,hypnotizer and clairvoyant who made a PERMANENT telepathy contact with me. It was 18 years ago. Since that time I have been under his telepathy control CONSTANTLY, every moment of my life. Yes, I am in a sane mind. I have joined this site because I hope it is possible to discuss here the experience of mine and have advice from those who is able to give it to me. My life in this telepathy channel is not easy, believe me. But I don't know how to get rid of it. What is it like to have such a channel? I could write a book about all that had happened to me in the course of these 18 years! This person (let me call him Mr.G.)has absolutely awesome abilities ! This telepathy contact is performed with visual images, mind reading and " talking " to me (either verbally,with words, or just with thoughts), Mr.G. tells me about things that will happen to me in an hour, a day, a week, he comments upon my thoughts, agrees or disagrees with what i am thinking, sometimes he ... punishes me! With pain. He can do good and bad things to me.He can heal,and he can make me feel pain. He abuses me sexually. Everything I am talking about takes place on the Channel, on the distance, he lives far away in Russia. How does it feel to have pain or to be abused on the Channel? Pain is pain. It hurts. You can hide yourself from the one who abuses you in real life, but you cannot do it if it takes place in the Channel, when it is done by the person who uses his psychic powers. I tried to get rid of him in many ways (visited psychic people, tried to visualize a fire screen around me, and things like that) - nothing helped. I cannot break this telepathy link, I cannot make him stop doing what he is doing to me. And I have no proof about what has happened. Who can prove the fact of telepathy contact?There are no devices for that. I can just inform people. I repeat again: I am in a sane mind. And I understand that it is probably hard to believe in a permanent telepathy channel, especially when I say that I 've been having it for 18 years. If you don't believe me you can check if it's possible by asking people with psychic powers to demonstrate you how it feels, many of them can do things (at least something very simple) on the distance.( For ex., they can make you feel heat on the distance). The aim of my being here on this site is to share my experience with people who are interested in paranormal and psychic. Others, who are not interested or don't believe in these things, just think I am mentally ill or I am telling them fairy tales. Those who are psychic themselves sometimes just don't want any competition when I share this information in public. I'd like to tell you everything about how Mr.G. did it with me, what was done and what is going on, - everything about this very extraordinary person who has abilities in telepathy, clairvoynce, hypnosis, psychokinesis. If you like to know about this person and about my experience of communicating with him in real life and on the Channel I can tell you a lot. This is my only method to fight against what he is doing to me violating my privacy by making this telepathy contact - if I start sharing I hope he won't like it and will stop it. |
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10-16-2010, 10:59 AM
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I know someone else who is victimised by a remote controller kind of guy. This guy takes over his body and forces him to do stuff. He, too, has some terrible problems trying to get rid of him. I don't know what I can advise, except that logically, I would assume that if there are people with such great powers to do ill, there must be people with similar powers to do good - who can help you. I think I would suggest you talk to rei, as she seems like the most powerful healer / do gooder I know. If anyone I know could help you, I think it'd be her. You can find her on the forum and also peruse her services at Intuitive Readings, Spiritual Healing, Transpersonal Coaching for Truth and Love: Rei Williams |
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10-17-2010, 12:51 AM
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I totally undertsand this. I do not think you're crazy either. But what he is doing is a violation of your freewill and personal development. It is stunting your growth. Those 18 years have been time you have been 'forced' to put your own life on hold, although you may have learned many interesting things. But all with him, and his influence as your 'controller'. He is making a puppet out of you. Don't get sad -get mad! You are dealing with a Human Being here when it all comes down to basics. He may be strong mentally, but there has to be someone (even you??) who is equally strong, or stronger. Some "psychics" are simply not up to this kind of work (getting him to keep away from your personal space, and not overstep your boundaries) ie getting rid of him. Some are -some aren't. You need someone who is. I can't recommend anyone. If you do some research you may find someone suitable. Don't give up hope. This man is not doing things right with you, I feel. He lacks respect. |
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10-17-2010, 02:15 AM
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Hello, Irisha. You are in good company at this forum. I find it alarming anyone is able to breach the telepathy stream with less than good intent: I was taught by guide spirits that to participate on this grid, one must be extremely honest and have intentions of good for all. Your report of manipulation indicates to me something I have suspected for a while. I suggest all our spiritual 'elders' bring this up in meditations, prayers and communications...I certainly will. As with cancer, your controller has managed to place a "transmitter cell" within your psyche, somewhere, somehow. Locating such transmitter cells...as in the cancer transmitter cell...takes much courage and is done with light transmission. It's crucial you get in trusting contact with your guide spirits and have them help you locate the transmitter. It is most likely placed (as a short sequence of thoughts) in one of your common thought processes. Once located, focusing on its presence and bring it to your guide's attention will help. But this is a concern for all of us, and it's like a spiritual virus. I keep you in my prayers. |
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10-17-2010, 04:01 AM
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10-17-2010, 06:58 AM
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Thank you SO much. I THANK EVERYBODY FOR THEIR SUPPORT. You can't imagine how much it means to me. I'll try to answer all your questions, and to tell you the whole story. When it started I felt euphoria. I have always had a great interest in ESP, psychic, and the like. When my teacher in the Occult College invited me for some special meditation in his office I was very happy about it. It was there that I got aqcuainted with Mr.G. When he entered the room, he took his seat near me, and immediately something started. I felt a very strong stream of energy from him, it was like the heat from the Sun. Then the subject of meditation was given, we closed our eyes, and started. During the meditation I had a very strange feeling, or better to say, I guessed what he was doing. There were only 4 people there: me, my teacher, Mr.G. and an elderly woman who also was taking part. They knew each other. Only I was a new one. And I felt that Mr.G., being a very special person, came here not to meditate (why to do it with me, I was just a disciple, and he was a very interesting guy who had great psychic powers , you could see it from the first sight). I was feeling that he was somehow checking me: what kind of person I am, my thoughts( I felt it), my attitude to things, etc. After the meditation I was invited to come again, and since that time every week on Wednesdays I visited the office, and we had those meetings for about 3 or 4 months. One of the meetings was very special. There were only me, my teacher, and Mr.G. Mr.G. said that there are different types of meditation, and one of the types is Kundalini Meditation. And he started to speak very fast, looking at me, and making no pauses, and he made me concentrated very much, and I was not allowed to ask questions, or make comments. He talked a lot, my teacher was also constantly watching me, and sometimes talking, so that there were no interruptions at all. They (mainly Mr.G.) told me about me, my past, my future, he spoke about the events in my life which only I knew about because I was the only participant, he gave the names of the people I kept in touch long ago, - he knew everything about me! He knew about my friends, my relatives, their names, the events from their lives, what would happen with them in the future, what would happen to me! He said that he would give me a Channel, and what kind of Channel it would be! I could say so much here about everything that happened during that meditation and after, but I don't think it's possible to do it right now. I just can say that all that he told me about really happened. Some time had passed. There were many other interesting events, and one day, it was the 10th of February, 18 years ago, the Channel started! It was like his voice in my head, communicating with me like by phone! I felt euphoria. Can you imagine that? Every day, every hour, every minute something took place, something happened on the Channel! When I asked him how is he able to be always here, without having a rest, he said that his brain is organized in the way that he never get tired, and he actually doesn't fully sleep at night. It's impossible to describe everything here, Ill have to write a thick book - so much is to be said, so many things happened, his abilities are so various, and he can apply them in so many different fields... Now I'll start answering the questions. "When did the telepathy begin to be abusive? In other-words, when did your relationship with this person go sour and they decided to use this to hurt you? What was their motivation for doing so?" (by Anagogy) __________________ As I remember my euphoria lasted about 2 years. He was very tolerant at first. Then he started being ugly. To tell you about the possible reasons of it means to tell you about my whole life. For ex., I liked latin music,liked to dance, - and he hated it. When I turned on the music he didn't want me to listen to he started to take measures against it. He did something - it was like a tekinesis - and a small part of the taperecorder was broken. He did it three times. He didn't want me to watch TV , - and he has broken it. Not once. When I bought a computer he didn't want me to have the Internet (he could forsee that I am going to share information about him, - and he didn't want it.) So, the computer was broken. And so on. I can hardly use any electronic devices. He can influence electronics on the distance. Even now I was having problems when typing the text. I have to be very careful:: he can push my hand (it's like telekinesis on the distance), and I touch wrong keys, have to correct, and several times just touched something on the keyboard, and the information was erased. And many other examples like that. When he started to punish me with pain it became a nightmare!.. He does it often! My life is like a life in a jail! It is the same as if I had been kidnapped by a maniak and being kept in a basement for many years already! Now I want to post this reply, or something may happen, and the text can be lost! I'll continue in the next reply to the thread. Thank you for your patience. Last edited by Irisha; 10-17-2010 at 10:38 PM. |
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10-17-2010, 08:52 AM
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Yes , there are other people involved. Mr.G. has a Meditation Club in Ekaterinburg(Russia). It is called "Raduga". I think people from this Club are experiencing different stages of his influence. Many don't know anything yet. They just love everything that is taking place in the Club, feel euphoria like me at the beggining. I think this is how he invoves people to become members: gives them a lot of positive energy , so they start coming again and again. And they even don't know WHO is the real organizer and the main leader. Because the meditations are conducted by another person, and Mr.G. is just sitting among the participants of the events. He only appears on the scene for the music meditations, like a helper. Actually he controls there everything and everybody. Last time when I visited the Club was 6 years ago, when I was in Russia. I was new for those people because I was prohibited to go to the Club when the Channel had started. At first I thought that everything he was doing to me had its very important reason, and followed him in all he told me. So, I stopped going to the Club meetings. Now I think he didn't allow me to go there because he didn't want me to tell people about the Channel. Then some other events in my life prevented me from going there, and when I came there again there were no people who were visiting the Club with me. Those new ones were like under druggs, in a permanent state of euphoria, they didn't want to listen to me ,they were only saying good words about the Teacher, and the only person who I knew from the past, who still was a member, seemed to be in deep depression, and she also didn't want to listen, didn't want to communicate, just said that she was close to suicide - Thanks God, she managed to cope with it . But I don't know what exactly had happened to her , she didn't share. That's not all. There is one more woman, she has never been the member of the Club, she just found me herself BEING LED by Mr.G. She has also had the Channel, and on the Channel she was told how and where to find me, and she came up to me, and asked me to translate a letter into English. Reading her letter I have got that she has a story similar to mine. The same type of events, the same methods of influence and control, pain as punishment, and so on. She wanted to send this letter to the United Nations Organization. She has already visited the General Persecutor Office (? is it correct in English?), and Putin's Office in Moscow. Nobody helped. They told her that she was crazy. Why had Mr.G. sent her to me? Because he hoped I would make her less active in her search for help (I was under some euphoria at that time still). And he also wanted us to be friends - in order to make us enemies later. We were friends, later we were not enemies, but our relations changed . Her story is even more tragic and fearful. He couldn't stop her from her activity in search for people who could understand what he was doing to her, his regular methods didn't help, and he started using even tougher methods. Now she lives in a very small village, in the forest, almost no people, no job, with her mother who thinks that she is crazy, and she even cannot go out - he doesn't allow her, - he makes her sound like a wolf watching the moon (I don't know the word) if she tries to leave the house. Can you imagine that? I know that he is really able to do things like that on the distance. Once he did it with me, - made me laugh without any reason in the store, - and I couldn't stop. He has made Sveta a very, very unhappy person. Recently I called her - the phone is always busy - I think it is disabled for receiving calls from America. That is not all. But I think it's already too much. If you are interested you can read the story in the next posts of mine. I don't have a photo of him. He always tried to avoid. I only had some journals published by the Club with photos of the Teacher and the members. But they are not with me, they are in Russia. Last edited by Irisha; 10-17-2010 at 10:03 AM. | |
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10-17-2010, 09:31 AM
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Thank you, Royster,I appreciate it very much. You give me some new information, I am to think about it. But I don't know how to come in contact with guide spirits, and locate the transmitter... I have no idea about that... This flow of Mr.G.'s words, images he sends, etc., always is without my intention and my will. Or when I am trying to control it, that is, start concentrating on it or start fighting with it, it is never connected with my common thought process, his words or images from him appear from nowhere. Suddenly, he 'sounds' giving comments upon my thoughts, or he appears because he wants to draw my attention towards what he thinks is important at the moment, and he often 'shows' himself through what I am doing - by means of HIS emotions, HIS attitudes towards things, -It 's very difficult to speak about - how he is doing it... He is a very intelligent and smart person . He has a great sense of humour. He can teach me about life, helps in some circumstances. He can help me write poems ... sometimes he plays music... it's not from me, I can 100% differentiate when it's me, myself, and when it 's from him... When I am playing the piano he can produce such beautiful touche (a French word) which I cannot do myself, without him. He does bad and good things to me. | |
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10-17-2010, 02:18 PM
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When each of us shares a part of our secrets openly, those secrets lose their power. This is true in any aspect of life, and it exposes the secret to the honest light of day. But it does more than that: others, permitted to observe, learn from it...in ways we wouldn't expect. The important thing, Irisha, is that by what you've already shared, this incident is in the spiritual~public view, and the ripples from it are reaching the proper energies. As many know, the KGB and CIA have mind-control programs, and while this sounds strongly like such a program, I cannot dismiss the spiritual/metaphysics needed to accomplish such control. The suspicions I mentioned in my earlier post are that the 'intelligence' 'communities' have made progress at influencing the 4th dimention/multi-verses and have already befriended entities there. Those entities have worked hard to convey this information to me, and your story strongly validates it. The instructions i have received are: to be aware of it, but let it run its course, knowing a Higher Power is very much in control, for the greater good of all, but more importantly: to terminate (dismantle) the negative influence at specific events (times). Those unaware of what a Manchurian Candidate is should do a little study: this would explain many of the "kooks" in recent news who have been programmed to conduct shooting sprees in schools and public places. Irisha, thank you for bringing this subject to the table. I have posted the link to your story on Facebook with the intention of bringing a deluge of spiritual focus to this problem. There are some very strong spiritual healers already influencing this, Irisha. Hold fast to your intentions. Last edited by royster; 10-17-2010 at 02:39 PM. |
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10-17-2010, 04:56 PM
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There were stories that started in the cold war days , of people in the U.S.S.R. that could remote influence other people . I thought this was probly like remote viewing that was used by the c.i.a. I dont know if you know what a manchuriran ( not in my dictionary ) candidate is , but now I am wondering about guys like Oswald , and Serhan Serhan . They may have been remotely influnced to kill . I did a startpage search on "raduga " it means rainbow Raduga - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Children dancing group Raduga Proton-K/DM For many years I have been battling with what I thought were my own personal demons , stuff from early child hood , past lives , ect. I sent out a message " Mr G I know what you are doing " something seamed to change . I might be just me . desert rat
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10-17-2010, 06:53 PM
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I think this may of started with Czar Nicolas and Rasputin , survived the fall of the U.S.S.R. . Had had some influnce on world history , and up to now has tried to remain quite secret . Just my random thoughts . desert rat p.s. just found this link Russian Translations Page Last edited by desertrat; 10-17-2010 at 07:10 PM. Reason: incompleet |
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10-17-2010, 08:12 PM
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Dear Desert Rat, I think you are right about those remote controllers who may have taken part in those events. In the book written by Uri Geller I read about a proposal made to him from some people of a high rank who asked him about help in remotely eliminating the current leader of the USSR Andropov who had headed KGB before, and was strongly disliked by the West. The thing is that the circumstances of the Andropov's death are really very weird. He had swum in the lake in a very cold weather in autumn although he was an elderly person, a very sick person (he suffered from a severe desease of kidneys), and he could know that swimming in October in the outside, in the area of Moscow countyside, was fatal to him. It is cold in October over there like in December in NYC. And his health was very poor at that time, he was on a special diet already and was prohibited by the doctors to eat any food cooked with salt. Sure, he had got a cold, then kidneys stopped functionning, and he died (having been General Secretary only half a year). As for the Club "Raduga" (it really means 'Rainbow') I don't think you can find any information about it in the Internet. I think they don't have a site. Not everybody can afford to have their own site in Russia. The Internet resources over there are very poor, because the country is poor, and its big size adds to its poverty, because it is hard to develop communications under severe climate conditions. How does he look like? He is very quick when moving, speeking, and everything. To describe him in the best way I'd rather compare him with smbd familiar. He looks like that actor staring in the musical "My Fair Lady", Mr.Higgins. But that one was young, and he is old. And he is smoking a lot, you are right (but not Cuban cigars, as they don't have Cuban cigars in Russia). It is good that you have sent out that message to Mr.G. because he is affraid of it. He is affraid of any publicity as well. That's why he is SO strongly against my sharing making me feel pain, and the stuff like that. But he could have done it even worse, I think, if it were not for this great help and support that I have received here! THANK YOU VERY MUCH INDEED! I APPRECIATE IT! Just don't know how to express my gratitude to you and to everybody. |
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10-17-2010, 09:01 PM
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Dear Royster, I also hope that making it public will help. That's why he didn't let me do it before. Even communication with friends was prohibited when the Channel started. How did he do it? He controlled my thoughts so much that every unwanted thought of mine was immediately suppressed by him. At the same time he was giving me so much energy and positive emotions that it comletely overlaid or overlapped (?) any attempt, or intention of mine to do things against him , and I gladly accepted all that was coming from him. But I should also say that he doesn't seem to me to be an evil person to such an extent as you see him . What he is doing to me, to Sveta, and to the members of his Club, - he is doing for fun , in order to entertain himself, and sometimes even to give help. But he is sure a person who acts unethical, illegal, the one who interferes with other people's lives, destroys their lives, and makes them suffer. I also have an account in Facebook, and started sharing there, but then I've found this site, also published some posts in "My Psychic Family", but the moderators were strongly against this information,I think they are instructed to shut the doors before those who interfere with the owner of the site, a specialist in ghosts, - so, some of my threads were closed and I was declaired mentally ill. I cannot post there any more, they've banned me. Their comments and methods were ridiculous and unfair. This site is really the one with so many people who are smart, who care, who have great hearts. YOU ARE REALLY A GOOD COMPANY, GUYS! Last edited by Irisha; 10-17-2010 at 09:22 PM. |
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I have heard of the musical " My fair lady " , I am not familiar with any of the actors . I got this image of a large heavy set older man , it was more of a S. Freaud , C. Jung image , setting in a chair with a large cigar . In the last link I posted , I dont know if by psychotronic it is a kind of e.s.p. or a form of electronic mind control . There is info on both on the net . desert rat
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10-17-2010, 09:46 PM
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This is most likely the best forum you can be participating in for such a problem. We've seen many come here so rattled they could barely type, yet they always received respect and the benefit of any doubt. I saw many members give good advice, and i give my own advice when I can. It is now time for you to begin the process of taking responsibilty for your thoughts, actions and new journey. How you do this is up to you, but in doing so, Mr.G will continue to fade, in influence and power. No person is permitted to "toy" with others without some sort of permission, so you need to withdraw any permission you have given him. He has assisted you along this far in your journey, but it is now time for you to walk and grow with others. And you are protected to grow on this forum with the rest of us, all in our own, unique phase of ascension. Many blessings and healings to you, Irisha. I pray the White Light around you, and your inner strength to grow. |
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10-18-2010, 12:17 AM
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Hi Irisha, I sometimes come to this forum and read some of the posts, as time permits. And so I have come across yours as well. My girlfriend Lenka and I are spiritual healers and especially Lenka is very powerful, with truly extraordinary clairvoyant, clairsentient etc. abilities. And because of her deep wisdom and humility I truly believe that I am living with a saint. I therefore asked her to please ask God or the Universe, if you will, whether we would be permitted to offer you help and also, since this is no light matter, whether we are strong enough to carry out such a task without putting ourselves in danger. The reply was neutral; neither yes or no. But what has come up is that we could do what Lenka calls "Meditation with the Light." To explain: There is a swami in Germany, originally from Mauritius. His name is swami Vishwananda. Some of my meditation students (who have actually become our friends over the years) started going to his satsangs in Germany about two years ago and they told us that he was an enlightened person. I'm a bit skeptical about the so-called enlightened people (yet I do believe that they are among us) but what happened: One friend brought a small rose quartz Christian cross which had been in the presence of the swami and gave it to Lenka as a present. And as soon as she took it in her hand, she felt a very powerful surge of energy descending down her crown chakra and at the same time she saw the swami's hand over the cross and heard his words saying to her that she was being attuned, receiving a special gift of a very powerful healing, by means of which she would be able to dissolve the karma - her own and other people's. We had already been doing this in our spiritual psychotherapies but this was going to be something different still. So, Lenka was wondering and a few days later it came. All of a sudden the process started and she knew exactly what to do. Shortly afterwards swami Vishwananda came to her and showed her how he heals through his heart chakra. Lenka described his healing powers as awsome; she could see a very powerful and absolutely stable flow of energy coming out through his heart centre, as opposed to ours still fluctuating, wavering and much weaker energy. She has accepted him as one of her teachers and he often comes to her, teaches her and helps her with the healing. And if he doesn't, we often call him to please come and help us. So, this is what we could offer to you, several sessions of this kind of healing. Lenka says that it would empower you and some new doors would get opened for you which would gradually lead to your liberation from his control over you. We would send you a detailed written report from each session by registered mail. I also asked Lenka to please ask God whether we should recommend another possibility of a very powerful help to you which I only recently learned about from my spiritual teacher when I visited him again after four years, since he lives overseas. The answer was in an affirmative. And this would help not "only" to you but to all Mr G's victims as well. But this is something not to be shared publicly and I will therefore write you a PM if you are interested. Just let me know. I would also like to mention one more thing which I have found is very important: We believe that if a person has a special gift from God that one should use it. So, instead of having a regular job with a steady income, we have opted to spend as much of our time as possible helping people with our abilities, knowledge and experience, none of which came to us lightly; we both had to work for it, and hard. It is something that brings us true fulfillment. Years ago, I left a well-paid job to go this way. But we have to pay our bills as everybody else and we cannot afford to do it for free. Why I'm saying this. Both Lenka's and mine attitude has been that we should first take care of doing our best to help people in distress and the money will come. That the people will simply appreciate what we have done for them. But eventually we found out that this is true only sometimes. Some people are extremely generous, beyond our expectations, but others seem to believe that we can afford to devote tens of hours of our time and expertise to them without receiving at least a small donation or even a compensation for the postage. Fortunately, we have only had very few such unpleasant experiences but still. There are even people who say that people like us live off the misfortune of others. Well, I believe that the kind of work we do is no different from any other kind of work. What about medical doctors, psychologists, psychiatrists, rescue workers, firemen, car mechanics...? Do not all these professions, and many others, exist because someone gets into a trouble? What's the difference? Yet many people believe that one shouldn't pay for spiritual services. Well, who can appreciate how much it has cost me to gain all that knowledge and experience to be able to offer the kind of services I'm offering? Plus all those years of hardships and renunciation few people would be willing to endure. So, this is just something to think about for those who talk about "jumping on a bandwagon" when someone offers their payed help in spiritual matters. Anyway Irisha, if you decide to accept our offer, we can discuss the details via PMs or e-mail. Good luck :-) Merrick |
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Irisha....I have experienced something myself not quite of this nature, but what you described rang many many bells with me, put it that way. I do not want to describe what I experienced not here, not now. Like you, what I would have to say could fill a whole book. And I tried to write it, but haven't managed to do that yet. The task feels beyond me. And since I got "out" of that position (using nothing and no help but my own sheer angry Will, because I could find no-one who could do the job for me) -I have only wanted to concentrate on a simple life, and have up to this point tried to shut it all out, and get on with living. But I totally empathize with your position, in deep deep ways. I wonder...are you familiar with the writer Dion Fortune (Violet Mary Firth)? She wrote a book called "Psychic Self Defense" and other useful books. She wrote before the 2nd world war mostly, so many things she says sound quite dated, but still she has a lot of wisdom, occult strength, and common sense, which are timeless. There may be something in that book, or other of her books which might help you. |
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Hi, Bluestar, I've received so much kindness, encouraging words and sympathy from you and from this community that I only feel much, much gratitude which cannot be expressed with words. It goes beyond any words. Your story about similar experience in your life seems to me very mysterious and intriguing (I am sorry if my choice of words is wrong, I am not a native speaker). I think you should try to write this book. Little by little, a page or just a few lines per a day, but if it is accomplished on a more or less regular basis, you will certainly have written this book, and feel much relief, I am sure. Try to do it, it could be a great fulfillment which lessens the stress from what had happened. I am also currently writing a book about my experience, and I notice that it helps feel better. The information of this kind that is kept inside becomes more and more voluminous every day and needs to be given some outflow. And it can be of interest due to its unusual subject, and it can possibly be useful for those who are learning about various situations that can be encounted in life. I know, it's difficult to perform it and make it up to the end. I myself have written only a few thin notebooks, and I am to think how to make all I want to write about a single whole and organize it under a common idea, then I'll have to recollect all the details, and make the narration sound interesting and vivid. How to describe the things which are so special that there are actually no words for them in the human languages. Because Mr.G. sometimes made me feel so weird and unusual energies which are not so easy to describe even in your native tongue. Thank you for the recommended books very much. I know this author, I haven't read many of her books, but I think i'll try to take this book "Psychic Self Defense" in the library. I wish you the best, and good luck. |
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Irisha, the only advice I can give you for closing down this channel of connection with this individual is to find a way to with-draw your attention from it. I realize this is hard for many people to accept, but nothing can assert itself into your life experience. Awareness of what is, maintains the connection to what is. This is why techniques such as visualizing a shield or things of that nature are oftentimes not effective. Inherent in the visualization of protection from that thing you do not want is the activation of the vibration of it in your experience. I know its hard -- especially when it is constantly in your face at the moment, but if you can find a way to ignore it for a consistent period of time, you can begin the deactivation of that reality in your experience. The above comment goes for any type of "healing" as well -- it's like the difference in vibration between "gratitude" and "appreciation". Gratitude is like looking at a problem you just got away from and saying, "thank god I'm not dealing with THAT anymore." In other-words, the attention to that thing you are glad you got away from is actually the beginning of the RE-activating the vibration of it, whereas appreciation is a more "free" and pure vibration because you are just loving and accepting what is, and that is the focus of your attention. Thoughts -- your focus of attention in this moment -- is the invitation for this thing you do not want. It won't go away immediately, but the more you can ignore it, the more distant it will become over time, till the connection is broken. If I were in your shoes right now, I would try to pretend that any thoughts that came from Mr. G, were not real. Ascribe as little reality to them as you possibly can. Ascribe as little importance to them as you possibly can. Imagine that they are simply aspects of an idle daydream, and if they occur brush them aside as things of no importance. And then focus on something else. In fact, make it into a habit that any time you sense any input whatsoever from Mr. G, to just immediately find something else to think about. If you can succeed in turning this into a second nature habit, it will de-groove the circuit of consciousness that is making this reality of telepathy flow even possible. Thought channels have a kind of momentum, and consciousness always follows the path of least resistance. At the moment, your path of least resistance is the thoughts you have been thinking on a regular basis. This constitutes the current momentum of your thought. These are channels of thought that make it possible for that telepathic communication to occur. You need to make new pathways of thought, and then make those roads of thought your dominant and second nature thoughts. It won't be immediate, but over time this trance Mr. G has created will simply lose coherence as you add more and more thought elements and make this trance of thought flow unstable. One other option is to find a competent and sympathetic hypnotherapist who could close this channel of communication down by working with your subconscious patterns of behavior. Hypnosis can be surprisingly effective with things of this nature. The only trick is finding a hypnotherapist who will be sympathetic to your plight, and not just assume your schizophrenic. Best regards. |
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"Psychic Self Defense" I was also going to reccommend this book. But also, never discount the effectiveness of asking for help from your spirit guides or guardian angels or "god" or Jesus or any white light spirit. "Prayer" if you want to call it that. And be sure to ask "out loud"...for some reason it seems to be more effective that way. |
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Yes, Anagogy, I know, I tried it many times. Then he started doing it stronger and stronger. The more I tried, the more intensive his influence was. I am a stubborn person, always try to win, but what can I do if he , for. ex., starts pushing me (not only talking), or starts hitting me on my arm, or my leg? Or, like right now, he starts "using" my hand as if it were he who is typing. He starts reminding me immediately that he is here when a slightest thought about resistance comes into my head. I can try to deceive myself that he is nothing else like a dream residue or smth like that, but if he uses visual , or audial, or tactile techniques changing their order, and starts not simply talking but shouting into my ears, I 'll be just deceiving myself - not more than that. Or he starts abusing me sexually - doesn't matter where I am and what I am doing at the moment - I feel everything as if it were in a real life. He creates the illusion of his phisical presence, - and what can I do?! - How to escape, where to run? Being in Russia I could afford asking for help from people who have psychic abilities, but nothing helped. Maybe those people were not strong enough? But nothing has changed - absolutely.If I could have noticed at least some very little change for the better I would certainly use this opportunity and kept on going to those people. But the dissapointment was very big. Nothing has changed. He was talking with the same intensity, in the same manner of his, nothing changed when those people were trying to help - even at the very moment when they were taking their effforts and I was taking my efforts. It is great that you have explained me the difference in meaning between the words. I should have checked it myself. Thank you for your kind and detailed advice, for your concern and you wish to help me. You have already helped me to feel better a lot by sending me your message, sharing your kindness and your concern, your sincere interest and your attitude to my problem. I 'll try to follow your advice as much as possibe. Last edited by Irisha; 10-18-2010 at 10:20 PM. |
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