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Old 11-07-2010, 09:31 PM   #121 (permalink)
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Yesterday I did a search on my psychic family and got all four of the threads you started , I did one rite now and I cant find them . Sites like Steve Pavlina , and my psychic family welcome stories of the paranormal and psychic ability . These forums are made up of people from many different belief systems . Advice they give will be from that belief system . The forum members there as well as hear are trying to help you . A mod must of thought you doing something wrong and banned you . I do not know if some one can hurt some one else with psychic powers when they have shielded them selfs. If I were you I would use all the psychic self defence methods I could find . Does Mr. G spend 24 hours a day using his psychic powers hurting you ? He does not eat , sleep , make love to his wife , teach others psychic powers ? desert rat
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Dying doesn't have to be suffering. For people who walk in the Light dying is but a peaceful crossing to the other side...

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I hope so. But nobody has come back from the other side, so nobody knows for sure...
What I meant by dying is in a broader sense. Everybody dies , - it's suffering by itself. It's not what we want ( do we?) - so it's suffering. Are we still responsible for that?
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But nobody has come back from the other side, so nobody knows for sure...?
Well, some people have. But few people believe them...

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What I meant by dying is in a broader sense. Everybody dies , - it's suffering by itself. It's not what we want ( do we?) - so it's suffering. Are we still responsible for that?
If you understand what you are here for, if you understand what your life purpose is, then you may be reconcilied with death.

If a dear one dies, it always hurts. But if you understand that everything has its purpose and that this life-time is but a wink of the eye compared to eternity, you may come to terms with it.

Yes, if we believe in only one life-time and then death and nothing more then life may seem very cruel and meaningless.

But if we look at it as a learning experience where we keep coming back to this Earth until we learn what we were supposed to learn, if we trust the Law, the higher Justice, if we learn to live in Love, then life may be beautiful.

That doesn't mean that we won't suffer any more. But we will get over it much faster and it won't be ruining our lives. We will be able to come to terms with life and with everything it brings along. And this is humility. Then we may live and die fulfilled and reconcilied.

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[QUOTE=desertrat;749414]Yesterday I did a search on my psychic family and got all four of the threads you started , I did one rite now and I cant find them . Sites like Steve Pavlina , and my psychic family welcome stories of the paranormal and psychic ability . These forums are made up of people from many different belief systems . Advice they give will be from that belief system . The forum members there as well as hear are trying to help you . A mod must of thought you doing something wrong and banned you . I do not know if some one can hurt some one else with psychic powers when they have shielded them selfs. If I were you I would use all the psychic self defence methods I could find . Does Mr. G spend 24 hours a day using his psychic powers hurting you ? He does not eat , sleep , make love to his wife , teach others psychic powers ? desert rat[/QUOTE/
I don't know how he is doing it, Desert Rat. Maybe a part of it goes autom atically somehow, because he uses a 'coding', and a part of it is his personal activity performed at that very moment using a telepathy method. He told me that his brain is organized in the way that it is always active. According to my experience with him he is always alert: if he is sleeping he still has somehow control over the situation, so that he can wake up to take measures if necessary. He also told me that he never sleeps... Who knows? There are other examples of people who don't sleep... I also don't know how he performs this activity, making telepathy Channel, making me feel pain, and other stuff. If I knew I think I could do smth against him to stop him. Other psychic self defence methods DON'T HELP. I HAVE ALREADY TRIED THEM! When I visualize a screen, a fireball, a mirrow , when I am praying, when I am repeating all these many times, - it's nothing! NOT A SLIGHTEST CHANGE!
I appreciate it so much that people try to help me!!! But I cannot report any good result yet. I AM SORRY. If you have read my reply about 'coding' you can read there that 'coding' cannot be removed sometimes even by a person who has made it. Even if they want it. And Mr.G. doesn't want. He wants me to be under his control. WHAT CAN I DO? How to change his mind? I don't know.
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Well, some people have. But few people believe them...



If you understand what you are here for, if you understand what your life purpose is, then you may be reconcilied with death.

If a dear one dies, it always hurts. But if you understand that everything has its purpose and that this life-time is but a wink of the eye compared to eternity, you may come to terms with it.

Yes, if we believe in only one life-time and then death and nothing more then life may seem very cruel and meaningless.

But if we look at it as a learning experience where we keep coming back to this Earth until we learn what we were supposed to learn, if we trust the Law, the higher Justice, if we learn to live in Love, then life may be beautiful.

That doesn't mean that we won't suffer any more. But we will get over it much faster and it won't be ruining our lives. We will be able to come to terms with life and with everything it brings along. And this is humility. Then we may live and die fulfilled and reconcilied.

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Yes, Merrick, I agree with you. The main thing is to believe. Our attitude depends on our position, it is predetermined by our belief.
Some people are able to have such a strong faith that they don't feel pain.

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Some people are able to have such a strong faith that they don't feel pain.
But it is not only about faith. It is about trying to understand what the situation is supposed to show you.

Please, don't take me wrong, I feel with you. I am just trying to explain that whatever is happening has got some hidden meaning. And I am trying to provoke you to realize that you are not helpless. That, although it may not seem so, your life is still in your own hands, not in some Mr G's or anybody else's.

I can tell you, not from some blind belief, but from my rich experience, that the Darkness gives only a temporary illusion of power to a person. And sooner or later, it may be in this life time or another, it destroys them. Some of them are fortunate enough though, usually through the prayers of others, to wake up before the Darkness devours them completely.

And every single one of them, when exposed in the Light, is utterly powerless and looks pitiful.

If you choose to believe that there is no help, then it is true. If you choose to believe that there is help, then it is true.

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Some of them are fortunate enough though, usually through the prayers of others, to wake up before the Darkness devours them completely.
Merrick speaks clearly the truth.
I am one of those in recovery from just what he expresses so perfectly.
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But it is not only about faith. It is about trying to understand what the situation is supposed to show you.

Please, don't take me wrong, I feel with you. I am just trying to explain that whatever is happening has got some hidden meaning. And I am trying to provoke you to realize that you are not helpless. That, although it may not seem so, your life is still in your own hands, not in some Mr G's or anybody else's.

I can tell you, not from some blind belief, but from my rich experience, that the Darkness gives only a temporary illusion of power to a person. And sooner or later, it may be in this life time or another, it destroys them. Some of them are fortunate enough though, usually through the prayers of others, to wake up before the Darkness devours them completely.

And every single one of them, when exposed in the Light, is utterly powerless and looks pitiful.

If you choose to believe that there is no help, then it is true. If you choose to believe that there is help, then it is true.

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Yes, Merrick, I understand what you mean. But when it comes to unchangeable things, such as death, we have to shift our position a little bit, and start talking about some other things just to make ourselves comfortable, to calm ourselves in view of the death. Because in this case, facing the Death (doesn't matter if it is far or close), we have no choice. So, there is only one truth, and it cannot be altered: there is no help. The question is what to prefer: to remember about the truth or not. This is our only choice.
In my case I prefer not to be split into two truths. If we know about two possible truths we are not a unity in itself even if we really believe only in one of these truths. But still we KNOW about another one. What to do with this knowledge? Just ignore it? Then we deceive ourselves.

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Hi,

Many times I was told here that I look like someone who sees Mr.G. as a not only powerful person but as an attractive one as well. And they asked me if I really want to get rid of him.

Yes, absolutely. I want to get rid of him (but I don't know how. All I tried has not helped.) But I don't see the reason why he should be viewed as a person without any positive traits. I am here to speak about my experience, and it includes not only negative but good, fascinating things which took place on the Channel as well. However the main and the most important thing is his intrusion into my life against my will, his manipulating my subconscious mind, his punishing me with pain for my making his activity open to the public, - and this is what nobody would like to continue, - me too. So, I repeat it again: yes, I want to stop it, to get rid of him, to close the Channel.

People also don't like that the advice given to me have not helped.
Yes, it's true. I am sorry. But what can I do ?
I am very thankful to everybody who tried to help me!
The only advice which seems to be helpful was given to me by the author of some books about self development Andrey Levshinov who has sent me an e-mail saying that I should find a psychic with a very big energy potential. I am looking for one, but haven't found yet. Unfortunately my energy is not big enough to cope with Mr.G. All of us have their limits of energy in this life.

I just can say it again: everybody who took an interest in my story has helped me a lot by taking this interest! I feel that I am not alone. That people here are really caring, wonderful, doing their best to help one in need!!! And it helps to feel much, much better. Thank you, friends.

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I keep coming back to the same intuition here.....
That you need some big strong Siberian Shaman to cut this link forever. To make this channel dead, like switching off a radio. I keep thinking someone from your own home territory trained in Siberian Shamanism, and well able to cope with any energy thrown at him/her....is the help which would do the trick.
Of course, this big, tough "take-no-prisoners" person may be a tiny old lady or some one similar. What matters is they would know the techniques of dealing with an Intrusion forever!...
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Irisha I had a call on phone whence that from abroad in 8 mornings. I so understand it there were you! I ask you to call hardly hardly after an hour on 3... I in 8 mornings still sleep, as telepathists prevent to live to me and do not allow to work normally. I cannot find work, they operate associates. I ask you to communicate with me also on Skype! Login in skype - "a7788981"!
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I have called this guy from Russia today. He has the same problem as me.
I think this is a kind of a bad joke from the part of some person with psychic abilities. I don't think it is Mr.G., though there are many coincidences: voices, thoughts, music, pains, etc. The guy sounds absolutely normal.
Maybe he, me, my friend Sveta, other people involved are the victims of some experiment made by who knows who...
This is either the experiment on people, or making fun by psychics.
Mr. G. once told me: " If I have these abilities why not to use them in the way I want?"
How can we, ordinary people, defend ourselves?
As for me, - OK , it's my fault - I was interested in esoteric, it was my choice to attend the Occult college and meditations.
But Sveta, this guy, - they have never taken an interest in those things...

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Please pardon my bluntness and don't take it personally.

The problem is that even if you do a cord-cutting (etheric cords) or clearing, the energy cords can still attach because the link is strong (so, much energy and attention has been put into this situation). Since you have put so much attention into this, even if you did cut the cords it might be negated because you're too attached to the situation.

So, let's say you got someone to cut the cord and it was cut successfully, but you doubt. You doubt that it has been cut or anything has been done because nothing has worked in the past. You're too attached and you're also kind of playing the victim. Which is perfectly fine, don't worry about it. Many people would behave similarly.

You do need to take responsibility that you have invested time and attention into this situation (yes, I understand that it has been hard). But, if you feel like you need to rebuke or defend your actions you aren't accepting or taking personal accountability. It's defensiveness or playing the victim. You've given so much of your control over to this person, take it back. Ask source (if this helps) to assist you in bringing back all your energy that you have handed over to this person. why is this person any better than you? he's not. its just a point of view.

You could try a visualisation or ritual also, see yourself taking back your energy and be firm. This is my energy, not yours. Thank you very much. Do a grounding exercise to get yourself present. Ask the universe to show you all cords that connect you to people who feed on your energy and do not serve you (that's all this person is doing truly, feeding on your attention and emotional energy). People do this when they think you can give them something they can't get on their own (which is an illusion). See white-light or love going down this cord to the other person, trust that this will feed whatever it is they think they can get from you. Trust that it is what they are wanting. Also, see yourself filling with energy or prana. You might have to do this a few times, so every day for a week or for however long you feel it takes. Sometimes people who are never satisfied with what you give will reconnect. so, try reversing the flow of energy. Instead of visualising white-light going to this person, see your energy coming back to you from this cord. Set the intention of taking back all the energy taken from you (you do have the ability to do this) and once they realise they can't take anything from you they should let go.

You do have the ability within you to cut this cord on your own. You don't need to search for help outside yourself - doubt gets in the way. You're not powerless or weak. If it's easier trust in your own connection to the energy of the universe and ask it for assistance.

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Yes, I tried it many times, BluBlossom!
I started doing it at the very begnning when the Channel had just started, because I knew about those methods of self defence. I visualized a firewall, a mirrow, I tried to sent this cord back , - nothing helped, it only became stronger!!! I was doing this self defence many times per day, maybe during a week. No result! Then I just had to wait what would be going on, what it would bring with itself. Then he started doing it in the way I liked: started talking on various subjects, let me listen to the very beautiful music, gave me much advice about life, predicted what would happen with me during the day, or in a week ,- those predictions always worked!,- etc. And I liked it and enjoyed it during, I think, 2-3 years. Then things became worse.
Right now, when I tried to take my energy back, he, again, made me feel pain, - the more I tried the stronger the pain.
So, this is how I am punished for my curiosity to learn more about psychic, for my having fun on this Channel, for not taking advice never be interested in things like that.
I just don't know what my friend Sveta's fault is, she has never attended any meditations, any occult clubs, was living a life of an ordinary person, was always absolutely normal, - and suddenly, when she was at home, she noticed that she was being watched, - when she was looking at something,she started feeling as if somebody were looking at it 'with her eyes', then this 'somebody' started talking to her, started asking her to do things, etc. - the same scenario as mine. Then after many years of many adventures with this 'somebody' , when she was tired of it too much, (she was also punished with pains), when she got furious about it, and tried to find help from the authorities ( a naive person!), she was told by this 'somebody' to go to my city, to go to the place where I worked, to enter that very room where I was , - to find me! This is how we met.
I don't think she is able to practise these psychic self defence methods - she has never been interested in psychic, she just doesn't see any point in visualizing and doesn't understand how to do it. She has been in the psychiatric hospital - her mother insisted on it. It was a bad decision: nothing helped, absolutely, she was just poisoned with those pills the doctors gave her, and what was the worst - the treatment in those hospitals in Russia is performed beyond any sanitary norms, for ex.: when they were taking a sample of blood, the med.assistant was doing it with a syringe just used with another patient, and her fingers were dirty with blood of that other person. When Sveta saw it and started her protests the special guards were called in, she was fixed, and nobody paid attention to her protests any more. People are not treated like people in those psychic hospitals. She had to live there with really crazy people - 20 in a room, - and they were doing all sort of things there - what crazy people do - so she had to take measures to save her life, she started telling the doctors that she was ok, no voices any more, to be able to flee.

My question is: how can a person like Sveta defend herself against those bad jokes, or experiments, or fun making performed by those ugly psychics who enjoy making harm to the people, just because they like it?

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That must be frustrating. Perhaps the pain is a last-ditch effort on the part of the other person to get you to give up, so maybe you need to just grin and bear it and push through regardless. actually...hold on, will pm you.

edit: just wanted to add something that I thought of, but discussed in pm.

When the connection or interaction first started you would have agreed to work with the person or people involved. That agreement would have formed a contact/oath. In other words you gave permission for the link to form, so you invited it in that way. When you did this you basically gave him your consent to link up with you, though you didn't specify in what way. you didn't know it would lead to a cord. It turned out to be pretty bad, though you didn't intend for it to be this way either. so, don't worry!

Perhaps, because you're so open (and trusting) no 'boundaries' were put into place - you didn't think of it and you didn't know you gave your power away through this action. Which is okay, not the end of the world. It wasn't specified that you'd only link up for one specific reason - no clear rules put into place. Because you said you enjoyed the first few years, this reinforced the bond in ways. And your repulsion later as well.

You can't exactly dissolve it or get rid of it because of the consent given intially. That's why it restablishes and is persistant. So, permission needs to be rescinded. You can do this through surrender to source (simple-method. try to keep things simple, not over-complicated). "Source, please take this contract that was formed wherever it exists, it has served its purpose, thank you very much"... then ask for the space left to be filled with prana or energy, so nothing fills the gap apart from that. Then, try the cord-cutting again for good measure. trust that it works.

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I think some psych wards MAKE people crazy. They were probably just fine when they went in, but more aware than most who put them there, and then became crazy...it's really scary and sad.
I'm sorry for your friend having to experience this de-humanizing treatment. It's absolutely unnacceptable that this sort of thing still goes on in some places.
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I started doing it at the very begnning when the Channel had just started, because I knew about those methods of self defence. I visualized a firewall, a mirrow, I tried to sent this cord back , - nothing helped, it only became stronger!!! I was doing this self defence many times per day, maybe during a week. No result! Then I just had to wait what would be going on, what it would bring with itself. Then he started doing it in the way I liked: started talking on various subjects, let me listen to the very beautiful music, gave me much advice about life, predicted what would happen with me during the day, or in a week ,- those predictions always worked!,- etc. And I liked it and enjoyed it during, I think, 2-3 years. Then things became worse.
Right now, when I tried to take my energy back, he, again, made me feel pain, - the more I tried the stronger the pain.
So, this is how I am punished for my curiosity to learn more about psychic, for my having fun on this Channel, for not taking advice never be interested in things like that.
I just don't know what my friend Sveta's fault is, she has never attended any meditations, any occult clubs, was living a life of an ordinary person, was always absolutely normal, - and suddenly, when she was at home, she noticed that she was being watched, - when she was looking at something,she started feeling as if somebody were looking at it 'with her eyes', then this 'somebody' started talking to her, started asking her to do things, etc. - the same scenario as mine. Then after many years of many adventures with this 'somebody' , when she was tired of it too much, (she was also punished with pains), when she got furious about it, and tried to find help from the authorities ( a naive person!), she was told by this 'somebody' to go to my city, to go to the place where I worked, to enter that very room where I was , - to find me! This is how we met.
I don't think she is able to practise these psychic self defence methods - she has never been interested in psychic, she just doesn't see any point in visualizing and doesn't understand how to do it. She has been in the psychiatric hospital - her mother insisted on it. It was a bad decision: nothing helped, absolutely, she was just poisoned with those pills the doctors gave her, and what was the worst - the treatment in those hospitals in Russia is performed beyond any sanitary norms, for ex.: when they were taking a sample of blood, the med.assistant was doing it with a syringe just used with another patient, and her fingers were dirty with blood of that other person. When Sveta saw it and started her protests the special guards were called in, she was fixed, and nobody paid attention to her protests any more. People are not treated like people in those psychic hospitals. She had to live there with really crazy people - 20 in a room, - and they were doing all sort of things there - what crazy people do - so she had to take measures to save her life, she started telling the doctors that she was ok, no voices any more, to be able to flee.

My question is: how can a person like Sveta defend herself against those bad jokes, or experiments, or fun making performed by those ugly psychics who enjoy making harm to the people, just because they like it?
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Elucidate, I didn't understand what you mean by ' more aware than most who put them there'?
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Elucidate, I didn't understand what you mean by ' more aware than most who put them there'?
I think sometimes people who may exhibit willingness to breakout of conditioned norms or have an inclining towards non-mainstream thinking or even just have a strong personality or are outspoken, especially women, can find themselves being written off by their family and peers and even be put in a ward, when there may not be anything wrong with them.

I don't know if this is the case with your friend of course, and you said she doesn't explore the psychic realms, so it may not be the case, and she may have just had mild depression or something? I'm sure it has happened to quite a few people, from a century ago to the current times we live in, though I would have thought things would have gotten better by now!

Hope this is clearer?
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Old 11-10-2010, 05:17 AM   #140 (permalink)
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I think sometimes people who may exhibit willingness to breakout of conditioned norms or have an inclining towards non-mainstream thinking or even just have a strong personality or are outspoken, especially women, can find themselves being written off by their family and peers and even be put in a ward, when there may not be anything wrong with them.

I don't know if this is the case with your friend of course, and you said she doesn't explore the psychic realms, so it may not be the case, and she may have just had mild depression or something? I'm sure it has happened to quite a few people, from a century ago to the current times we live in, though I would have thought things would have gotten better by now!

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Do you mean this psychiatric hospital by a 'ward'? But Sveta was taken to the hospital because her mother thought that she was crazy after Sveta had told her about 'being watched',about voices and the stuff. So, this was the reason, and not a depression , she didn't have a depression.
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Many times I was told here that I look like someone who sees Mr.G. as a not only powerful person but as an attractive one as well. And they asked me if I really want to get rid of him.

Yes, absolutely. I want to get rid of him (but I don't know how. All I tried has not helped.) But I don't see the reason why he should be viewed as a person without any positive traits. I am here to speak about my experience, and it includes not only negative but good, fascinating things which took place on the Channel as well.
Everybody has got some positive traits. The Nazis, who were murdering people in gas chambers also had their loved ones who admired them. Some of them loved their pets who must have thought what a wonderful owner they had. Hitler was reportedly very charismatic and charming, Also, power is often an irresistible afrodisiakum and many people, especially women, fall down on their knees before a man in a position of power, regardless, what a monster he may be, how he has acquired his power and how he uses it.

But any person who uses his occult knowledge and power to control others is a black magician. And regardless that you laugh at me when I am talking about the higher Justice, Irisha, such a person is invariably bound to be destroyed by what they have been doing.

Another thing, even if a powerful shaman managed to free you, it would probably be only a superficial and seeming freedom, since the roots of the problem would remain untouched. The karma would still remain, waiting to be resolved sometimes in the future. But since you don't believe in karma, from what you have said, it needs not to bother you. But there is a question whether even that is possible when you admire the man. Well, just a few thoughts to ponder...

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Old 11-10-2010, 09:47 AM   #142 (permalink)
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Do you mean this psychiatric hospital by a 'ward'? But Sveta was taken to the hospital because her mother thought that she was crazy after Sveta had told her about 'being watched',about voices and the stuff. So, this was the reason, and not a depression , she didn't have a depression.
Yes...we call them "psych wards" in Australia.

Oh, ok...I must have not read that carefully, I apologize. I wasn't saying she was depressed, I just wasn't sure and gave an example of what might cause her mother to put her in there.

I can see why her mum did what she did then, and probably thought she was doing the right thing for her at the time. I still think that these places can make a person crazy, if they weren't to begin with.
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Old 11-11-2010, 12:16 AM   #143 (permalink)
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You know...when a person has full control, they are usually calm. They start punishing when they feel they are losing control.....
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A good shaman would be able to perceive the source of the bond in the Spirit world, which would be not necessarily in "linear" time, and be able to negotiate with aspects of both peoples' Selves, or even other Beings that surrounded them and influenced them.

But, regarding poor Sveta, did they suspect that she might be schizophrenic? Sometimes the symptoms of psychism are similar to those of schizophrenia. I knew a woman who was a good psychic, and when she began having her experiences, she was not, at first, exactly sure what was going on, though she had an inkling. She actually went to a doctor (psychiatrist) to be tested, and in spite of the "voices" and many symptoms which could have sounded like paranoid schizophrenia, she was found to be sane.
But that wasn't in Russia. It was in Germany. I am saddened and horrified to hear of the dreadful way psychiatric patients were treated in that hospital, Irisha! Even animals elsewhere are not treated with as much disrespect as that.
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A good shaman would be able to perceive the source of the bond in the Spirit world, which would be not necessarily in "linear" time, and be able to negotiate with aspects of both peoples' Selves, or even other Beings that surrounded them and influenced them.
But, regarding poor Sveta, did they suspect that she might be schizophrenic? Sometimes the symptoms of psychism are similar to those of schizophrenia. I knew a woman who was a good psychic, and when she began having her experiences, she was not, at first, exactly sure what was going on, though she had an inkling. She actually went to a doctor (psychiatrist) to be tested, and in spite of the "voices" and many symptoms which could have sounded like paranoid schizophrenia, she was found to be sane.
But that wasn't in Russia. It was in Germany. I am saddened and horrified to hear of the dreadful way psychiatric patients were treated in that hospital, Irisha! Even animals elsewhere are not treated with as much disrespect as that.
I really don't know if Sveta has this diagnosis or not, because I can see that she is an absolutely normal person, and I don't trust their diagnoses very much. Psychiatry in Russia was used to isolate those who were against the the Soviets before perestroika. So, the same doctors who did those dishonest things are still working as doctors in psychiatric hospitals now, the same mentality prevails over there, little has changed. Even if they have started following the new course (especially the young ones) they can hardly be different very much from those who have taught them psychiatry. They just cannot take any person to the hospital against his/her will now. Before perestroika they took there anybody who disliked the life in the Soviet Union, used a very cruel 'treatment', made those people disabled very often!
I can tell you even sadder and more dreadful things. When I gave birth, I didn't have milk, and I was given bottles with milk for my baby when she was brought to me for feeding (They keep mothers and babies separately in Russian hospitals). Accidentally I put the bottle on the chair (because they even don't have tables in the hospitals, - only beds),- and it was prohibitted to do that (too much infection in the hospitals). The nurse saw it , and immediately took the bottle away, didn't allow to feed the baby. I asked her to give me another bottle, but she didn't. Then the baby was taken to their separate room. And next time she was brought to me again, she was having a very husky voice because she was crying the whole night so much from hunger. I was very upset that they hadn't feeded the baby, and I wanted to tell the doctor about that. "Don't do that, - the other women told me, - better try not to make anybody angry here. Otherwise they can hit the baby's head against the wall , - and what can you do then? For the sake of the baby, be reasonable, be careful with the nurses." Do you think I was in a prison hospital or the like? Nothing of the kind! It was a regular hospital in my native city. Women in the hospitals are looking forward when they will be allowed to leave hospitals and have their babies! My daughter suffered from the problem with the belly-button, because it was her fifth day, and the cord (?) got separated, and she was crying of hunger too much that night! At the age of 5 she still had the problem with it . I had the Channel at that time, and Mr.G. fixed the problem on the distance! It was one of the good things he did.
As for the shamans, I also think they could help me. But Russians don't have shamans. The shamans in Siberia were not Russians, they were buryats, or of some other nationalities. There are plenty of other nations in Siberia. I don't think shamans are still practicing there. They could be found there in the 19 th- the beginning of the 20th century. But after the revolution in 1917 the Soviets prohibitted their practices, those who disobeyed were arrested, maybe killed. If there are any they are very, very few.
Russians just have people who can heal with herbs. They are also psychics to some extend. But according to ads of psychics in the newspapers they are mainly Jews, not Russians. Do you know that here, in the USA, there are very few Russians? I have been living here for 5 years, and I know only 2 or 3 Russians. All those people who speak Russian here are not Russians. They are mainly Jews from Russia.
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BluBlossom,
this method really helps me!
The Channel is here, and I will be trying to use the method as many times as it is necessary to get rid of this bond.
But the method helps me to control the pain!!!
When he starts making it I use your method and the pain weakens!
I hope this is not Mr.G.'s game playing.
THANK YOU SO, SO MUCH for your method and for your making things clearer to me!!!
It's like a start for a new life. I could sleep this night for the first time after those 3,5 weeks.
I AM SO GRATEFUL TO YOU.

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I really admire Mr.G.'s abilities. I have never read anywhere in literature about such a combination of psychic powers in one person: telepathy, clairvoyance (he told me many times what would happen to me in the nearest future, in an hour, for ex., or in some distant future - about my life in America, for ex.), healing on the distance (he did it a lot to me, to my daughter, to my relatives, just to the people who were around me, whom he didn't know and had never seen. So, he was doing this healing using telepathy through the Channel), hypnosis (on the distance as well), telekinesis, etc. He is able, for ex., teach on the distance (he taught my daughter to compose music when she was playing the piano. She was 7 or 8, the music sounded like Bach's. Then he stopped doing it, and she also stopped composing. She started writing stories. She has been writing since the age of 8, has piles of thick notebooks with her stories and novels.I asked astrologists if she had it in her chart. They said no. But she is still writing, spends all her time for that.) Once I noticed how he helped me to draw my pictures. Sometimes he helps me to make poems, I can feel it. I've forgotten to tell you that on the Channel he always speaks to me only with rhymes. Always. This is a good argument for those who don't believe me. Can a person be so crazy as to speak rhymes with themselves? He has also a very good sense of humour, a very witty person, I am dying from laughing sometimes. Is it enough?
Yes, he is a manipulator, a black magician. So bad of him.
If you mean that I was probably in love with him,- yes, I certainly was. Maybe that's why it is so hard to get rid of this cord. I will be trying the method BluBlossom has given me. Till the last day of my life.
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Old 11-12-2010, 05:41 AM   #148 (permalink)
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Speaking in rhymes? Sounds like spells to me.

Chanting in rhymes has been the way witches have spoken spells for centuries. it's no different to a prayer, though this sort of prayer sounds like it is not in your best interests at all, and purely for his own sense of power over.

He sounds like a nasty piece of work!
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Omg! I didn't know about that!
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Omg! I didn't know about that!
Yep! It's a way of increasing the power by repeating them over and over, whilst focusing their mind and will on their intention. Rhyming was a way to remember the words for the magician, back when people were not as literate centuries ago.
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