Abuse in Telepathy Channel

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by Moonshine

Irisha, you are delusional and hallucinating. This thread is both uplifting for the care and desire people have to see you get better, and on the other hand very troubling that there is collusion regarding what is clearly a disturbing mental illness. Go and see a doctor Irisha.

If any of you really do have evidence of telepathy or a 'telepathy channel', why not go and demonstrate your abilities to James Randi who will be happy to make you a millionaire. What are you waiting for? The offer has been open for over 40years....

Experiences like this cannot be proven. People who have these experiences just have to learn to live with people like you who think they are delusional and mentally ill. I'm sure Irisha expected some people to give that token response

No one here (including you) knows what the truth is here, in regards to this persons situation. All we can do is hear him out, or not.

I saw your post Irisha, on "psychic family", another forum...and your story was the same. May I ask, why did you get banned from there?

[nicbrahms]

I think Irisha has goen awol.

I accept Irisha's experience here, and if it is what she wants then cool.

However, if she does want some help to change the experience now then thats what she's seeking here and I hope the advice helps.

Somehow I get the feeling that there is more to this than we are being told.

I think Irisha knows this man is not doing anything to her and I also get the feeling there was or is a personal aspect to the story, in that she had feelings for him or something.

Peace out and good luck kid, love as always.

[royster]

I've always respected nicbrahms' input. Her's is an essential elliment to be pondered (DARN! I wish I had "spell check"!). And sometimes, we need someone who has the courage to say the harsher possibilities.

In conjunction with nic's:

An important thing I've learned about some spirits: if they're frightened, they will make themselves scary; that's how they feel they're protecting themselves. Thus, the loving intentions toward them are a huge help to calm ALL the energy realms. Intuitives and Sensitives will know, from experience, if these spirits are innocently causing disruption or taking advantage of kindness.

from the "creepy vibes" thread

[desertrat]

I think there is more to Irisha story than she/he has posted . Elucidate can you post a link to that other forum . Royster , I bought a dictionary ($2.00 at discount store ) desert rat

[nicbrahms]

Originally Posted by royster

I've always respected nicbrahms' input. Her's is an essential elliment to be pondered (DARN! I wish I had "spell check"!). And sometimes, we need someone who has the courage to say the harsher possibilities.

In conjunction with nic's:


from the "creepy vibes" thread

The feeling is mutual, and thank you.

I love your sense of humour, some of your posts crack me up.

Peace and love to all.

[Midniteshowers]

Irsha~ if you are reading this, please reply, there is people here that care about you, and want to see you safe. Regardless of what is going on. I believe that anything is possible, and nobody but you knows what you are going threw.

[elucidate]

Anything is possible, and there are a great many things we do not understand about the mind's potential...that the so-called "ëxperts", are none the wiser about.

I have my doubts that there is someone out there who has the kind of power that Mr G has, according to you Irisha, so it's possible you have given him more credit than he is worth? But, then again, what do I know...?

[desertrat]

Irisha I wonder if any of these people are you IRISHA on Myspace Music - Free Streaming MP3s, Pictures & Music Downloads Irisha, 110248, Poltava, Ukraine, Ukraine women, Age: 25, Pedagogic, reading, photo exhibitions, cooking, Graduate School, Educator, , Christian Amazing Girl Irisha from Shakhtersk, Ukraine, 35 y.o. Here is what the name means Russian girls name Irina Iryna Ira Iren Irochka Irisha Irishka Irinka Irinushka desert rat

[desertrat]

I think Irisha has gone a.w.o.l. thats rely too bad , I think we could of helped her if she would do what was required to resolve her problems . Irisha if you are reading this text do deep breathing , if you feel pain stay with the pain keep breathing untill the pain is gone . We all have repressed crap that needs to be let go of . I can post more if asked . desert rat

[bluestar]

desertrat....you know what? You are a real sweetie.

Irisha, if you come back and read any of this, there may be those who are unsure about what you are experiencing. But I know one thing. There is so much affection for you here. People really do seem to care, and that's such a blessing when you are suffering.

[Irisha]

My dearest friends! You are so sweet! Thank you so much for everything.
I was not on line during the whole week, the reason is the same.
Desert Rat, all other Irishas are not me, I have this nickname only on this site and on the site My Psychic Family where I was banned. I have already given my opinion about the reasons and about that site.
I understand that many people don't believe me, and see me as a mentally ill person. I cannot prove the fact of this telepathy abuse. Mr.G. is not going to confirm that he did and does it. My only aim here, in the Internet, is to inform people about my experiene. I don't want this to happen to anybody else.
As for the advice to visit a doctor, - yes, I have talked to a specialist in psychiatry recently. Those pains he is doing made me look for anybody who could help. (Though I know that doctors cannot help me). She said what I expected: that she cannot help, and that I should do something like talking to Mr.G. and asking him to stop it! But this is what I have been doing for 18 years already!

Thank you,guys, so, so much! I always feel your support!

[Irisha]

Anagogy:
"Irisha, I have a question.

How often would you say these attacks occur through the channel?

For example, how much of any given week is devoted to an attack on you from Mr. G?

Or how much of each day is devoted to attacking you?"




Anagogy, these attacks happen very often. Usually he starts at about 5 pm. I start feeling pain which is not very strong at first. It becomes awful at night. As if he were pulling up my stomac, intestine. The pain is almost permanent. It may get worse, may get less. It may be combined with nausea. During the first week when he started this torture I was vomiting 5-6 times per day. Now it's almost always only pain. Everything finishes at about 8-9 am. (I think, because he prefers doing it when it is day time in Russia. ) When I feel too bad he gives me a break. For example, on Thursday I felt absolutely nothing. No pain. I could sleep at night, and eat as usual. On Fryday it started again, but not so strong, - I hope he is tired. But last week he resumed it. This week is the third.

[Irisha]

Originally Posted by nicbrahms

I am sorry that you feel like this Irisha. However, I second Anagogy's post that you only invite into your reality that which is in your vibration. Nobody or nothing can do anything to you unless you are allowing it via vibration.

I think you should seek help with what you imagine this man is doing to you, I think there are definitely some mental issues here and you need to see someone about that. Could be depression etc.

I think you got to stop playing a victim to this thing you imagine is happening to you, cause if you don't want it, stop it.

I'm sorry I am not being more sympathetic but I don't really believe anyone is psychically attacking you and has been for 18 years.

I think however, depression and what you believe is happening is causing your pain and helplessness, only you can take control and stop this.

Only my opinion so feel free to ignore it, but the minute I read this thread it felt completely wrong, as in you are misleading yourself.

Also the way you talk about this man its as though you had a crush on him or felt something for him, did you?

Yes, I did, at the beginning.
I'd have to write a thick book to describe everything that has taken place during these 18 years.
Actually it was both: attacking (because he didn't ask a permission from me to start this channel. He only informed me at Kundalini meditation that it would take place in the nearest future. ), - and at the same time, first, at the beginning, there were not so many negative things, and I was very curious about it, and I liked it , - because this person who has these awesome abilities, was showing me what he could do, he has chosen me, etc.,etc.

You say: "Nobody..can do anything...unless you are allowing it". Do I want to feel this awful pain, for example? No natural reason for this pain. When I am having a pain because of some natural reason - it's absolutely different. When it's he who is doing smth, you can feel it, and it cannot be mixed with anything else but him. I understand that it's hard to get it. You need to be in my shoes to be able to get it.

I tried to explain what is the feeling of the Channel, how it feels like, in some of the previous replies: the feeling is always combined with a feeling of a 'magnet' inside me, and which, I think, Mr.G. uses to make this Channel. Nobody has commented upon it. Does anybody know anything about it?

[Irisha]

Originally Posted by bluestar

I have had -in the past, for many years- and still on the odd occasion have...a very strong deep and thorough telepathic link with someone, in which not only certain thoughts but also every nuance of emotion can be felt -both ways.
I have quite enough firm evidence of this too. It is evidence enough for me (though no-one else would see it) as I am very critical in my approach and need quite concrete evidence in order to give credence to a thing, whatever it may be. That's just the way I'm built.
But I very much doubt if Mr James Randi would see it that way -do you? He would not experience the same things I do because he wouldn't be able to see, sense, or anything else, our private telepathic contact. Much as I so need a million dollars!

Also, though I have no evidence whatsoever of Irisha's psychological condition, I am not necessarily willing to jump to the conclusion that all the phenomena she has experienced are as a result of mental illness. My guess is that the "channel" started out as real enough, and in most part, maybe still is real enough. But that there may be certain elements which have been misinterpreted over time, perhaps. If there is a lot of oppression, and the contact seems to be taking over life, it can make you feel many things are happening connected to the telepathic link, which may be quite random and unconnected.
For example...Mr G may well not be responsible for mistakes on the keyboard, or the vagaries of the Internet (which are often maddening!)

But when living under a shadow of this kind, one's whole life can tend to be coloured by those negative and oppressive things. The skill is in sorting out which things he really is connected to, and which things he is not -or all this can descend into delusion. And then what next? No-one will believe Irisha.

The only thing I am struggling with is why? Why would Mr G wish to control (and ultimately destroy) the will of not only Irisha, but another woman in Russia who was connected with him? For the kick of it? Because he's a control freak? Because he likes to manipulate women at a distance and gets a hit off it?? Because he has some sexual or otherwise -connection with them, and has a really twisted sexuality? Many sexual creeps can even live quite 'normal' lives on the surface, perhaps married with kids, etc...and their dark fantasies are reserved for their shadow selves. Some live out those fantasies in internet porn, visits with prostitutes, or other things. Maybe this telepathic channel is Mr G's 'kick'?? And he's using a special psychic gift he has to fulfil his dark fantasies?

Bluestar, you can really get it so perfectly well!
And you are absolutely right about this 'kick'. I think there are many more women who are his victims. I have already told you about Sveta. I know one more lady (she also attended private meditations) who told me WHAT Mr.G. is doing on the Channel with women. Her name is Raisa. But at that time I hadn't had a Channel yet, and I didn't make right conclusions. Just didn't understand what she was talking about, HOW it could be... that such nice people like Mr.G. and the Teacher were involved in that kind of things... I admired them at that time...

[desertrat]

Here is a link to that site , its a .co.uk site making it a bit hard to find Your Psychic Family - Search Results Irisha I would ask that you seriously consider the words of ilcjr on the other forum , you may have traped a very pain full memory , blocked out all memory of the event , and this is the true source of your problems. I think you mis understod some of what the others were saying on that other forum . Some people do have psychic abilites . You can put the idea of sex into some one else mind , I got one lady to have sex with me , another was truned off by it . A famous quote goes " it takes two to tango " . You can close your mind to Mr. Gofman forget him and get on with your life . desert rat

[Midniteshowers]

Irsha~ You said that you went to a medical professional and the advice they gave you was to go find this man and ask him to stop? Hmmm... I'm sorry, but I am finding this a bit hard to believe. No medical doctor with a PhD in Psychiatric medicine is going to disclose this case and simply shrug it off as if there was nothing they can do to help you. You came to this site looking for help, and there is a lot of good suggestions from other members on here that a person who was sincere in finding some relief from this problem would be willing to do. But you have to actually be willing to try the advice or all the replies in the world are useless. If you want this to stop, then only you can make this stop. There is nothing we can do to help you. If this is actually happening, I am wondering if you really want to put an end to it? I believe going and seeking help from a qualified Psychiatrist would really benefit you, if anything, it would help you with the trauma that this 'event' has put you threw all these years. Good luck and God bless.

[desertrat]

There is a phrase it goes you can take a horse to water , but it is up to the horse to drink the water . The horse could stand there and die of thirst . If some one does not want help there is very little any one else can do . Mr G. may be this amazing wounderfull man with supper mind powers , but all you need do is close your mind to him . desert rat

[Irisha]

Originally Posted by Midniteshowers

Irsha~ You said that you went to a medical professional and the advice they gave you was to go find this man and ask him to stop? Hmmm... I'm sorry, but I am finding this a bit hard to believe. No medical doctor with a PhD in Psychiatric medicine is going to disclose this case and simply shrug it off as if there was nothing they can do to help you. You came to this site looking for help, and there is a lot of good suggestions from other members on here that a person who was sincere in finding some relief from this problem would be willing to do. But you have to actually be willing to try the advice or all the replies in the world are useless. If you want this to stop, then only you can make this stop. There is nothing we can do to help you. If this is actually happening, I am wondering if you really want to put an end to it? I believe going and seeking help from a qualified Psychiatrist would really benefit you, if anything, it would help you with the trauma that this 'event' has put you threw all these years. Good luck and God bless.

Yes, I asked for help from the lady I know, she is from Russia, has a degree in medicine in neurology, worked as a neurologist in Russia, here she took some studies to work in the field of psychiatry, and she works now as a psychiatrist in some hospital in Queens (NY). I asked for advice from her, and she told me what I had already said. And I fully agree with her. You know why? Because she is from Russia, she knows what kind of problems people have sometimes there, and her mother told me that she had come across something like that before. You know, in Russia people have sometimes the so-called 'coding' against taking alcohol (I don't know the word in English). They are 'coded' not to take alcohol because if they do they'll die. And they really die if they violate this rule. Nobody can help, even those who have 'coded' them sometimes cannot help. That's why this 'coding' was prohibited. But some people still practice it. I think Larisa sees my problem like some 'coding' , that the method used by Mr.G. was similar to it , or the same. That's why she has given me this advice. I know that Mr. G. is a psychic , and he also uses telepathy, and this Channel is not simply 'coding' , because there are too many events on the Channel which cannot be just a 'coding', they are too complicated to be just that.
I fully agree with Larisa that only Mr.G. himself can stop it, but he doesn't want.

[Irisha]

Originally Posted by desertrat

Here is a link to that site , its a .co.uk site making it a bit hard to find Your Psychic Family - Search Results Irisha I would ask that you seriously consider the words of ilcjr on the other forum , you may have traped a very pain full memory , blocked out all memory of the event , and this is the true source of your problems. I think you mis understod some of what the others were saying on that other forum . Some people do have psychic abilites . You can put the idea of sex into some one else mind , I got one lady to have sex with me , another was truned off by it . A famous quote goes " it takes two to tango " . You can close your mind to Mr. Gofman forget him and get on with your life . desert rat

DesertRat, why do you think those moderators from Your Psychic Family are qualified enough, and they wanted to help me? They were doing their job to push away from the site those who have some true stories about psychic events! Read their replies carefully. They are just repeating the same words, and have no wish to see the problem from a different point of view, or to consider any different opinion. They are sometimes discussing smth that doesn't deal with the subject of the thread, so that the visitors just lost interest and stopped reading the thread. But any discussion on the subject was prohibited, and they even ERASED some replies which were in support and which critisized their method! Read other threads on this site, - are they interesting? Do you like them? Do you like the pictures in My Psychic Art? The site is made for one person who wants to make ads for himself, wants to collect information for his TV show, mainly about ghosts, and other psychics are to be ignored, pushed away from the site, - why to advertize others ? Let them have their own sites for that!
Some of the moderators even don't know what is Kundalini, - and they are qualified for the site about Psychic!

[Merrick1]

Originally Posted by Irisha

I fully agree with Larisa that only Mr.G. himself can stop it, but he doesn't want.

You see Irisha, I don't go along with the attitude of those "happy - clappy" people who walk around saying that nothing can harm you unless you yourself allow it etc. They are just waiting for their turn to learn something about humility.

But if you believe that some Mr G is more powerful than God then... What can I say?

Merrick

[778898]

Irisha why you do not answer me by mail?

[Irisha]

Originally Posted by desertrat

A famous quote goes " it takes two to tango " . desert rat

Not always.
It is Mr.G. who has made this connection. Not me. I don't have these psychic abilities. He makes this connection using all 5 senses (and even the 6th sense if he wants it to be activated with me. I cannot activate it myself but he can do it). So, when he 'touches' me , - I feel it. I don't want it, but I feel it. What can I do not to feel it? I cannot pretend that I don't feel. If I am repeating: "I don't feel it, I don't feel it", - do you think it makes sense?Do you think I really stop feeling it?

[Irisha]

Originally Posted by 778898

Irisha why you do not answer me by mail?

I will call you soon.

[Irisha]

Originally Posted by Merrick1

You see Irisha, I don't go along with the attitude of those "happy - clappy" people who walk around saying that nothing can harm you unless you yourself allow it etc. They are just waiting for their turn to learn something about humility.

But if you believe that some Mr G is more powerful than God then... What can I say?

Merrick

No, Merrick, I don't believe that he is more powerful than God... Why?
My firm believe is that only God is responsible for everything that happens in the Universe. So, what has happened to me is because of the God's will. If God wants Mr.G. to stop it, he will stop it. I can ask God about help. But does that mean that I shall receive that help? No. Otherwize people who don't want to die, wont't die. But they die, though they prey, and ask God about help.

[Merrick1]

Originally Posted by Irisha

I fully agree with Larisa that only Mr.G. himself can stop it, but he doesn't want.

Well, this is why...

Merrick

[Merrick1]

Did you receive my PM?

[Irisha]

Originally Posted by Merrick1

Did you receive my PM?

Yes, Merrick, thank you very much!

[Merrick1]

Originally Posted by Irisha

My firm believe is that only God is responsible for everything that happens in the Universe. So, what has happened to me is because of the God's will. If God wants Mr.G. to stop it, he will stop it. I can ask God about help. But does that mean that I shall receive that help? No. Otherwize people who don't want to die, wont't die. But they die, though they prey, and ask God about help.

God doesn't want us to suffer. God is not responsible for what happens to us. We are. It is not His will that you suffer.

God has set up the Law. And the Law is the Universal Love. And when we violate the Law, we have to learn from that mistake. That is the only reason we suffer. To learn. But God doesn't seek to punish us. As soon as we come to understand, He may end our suffering. We call it God's Mercy.

In any case, we do not suffer because it is God's will. We suffer of ourselves. Our suffering is of our own making. All that is needed is to wake up.

Merrick

[Irisha]

Originally Posted by Merrick1

God doesn't want us to suffer. God is not responsible for what happens to us. We are. It is not His will that you suffer.

God has set up the Law. And the Law is the Universal Love. And when we violate the Law, we have to learn from that mistake. That is the only reason we suffer. To learn. But God doesn't seek to punish us. As soon as we come to understand, He may end our suffering. We call it God's Mercy.

In any case, we do not suffer because it is God's will. We suffer of ourselves. Our suffering is of our own making. All that is needed is to wake up.

Merrick

Is dying a suffering? Are we responsible for that as well?

[Merrick1]

Dying doesn't have to be suffering. For people who walk in the Light dying is but a peaceful crossing to the other side...

Merrick :-)