Abuse in Telepathy Channel

[778898]

...... sorry i speak bad english...
I From Russia, and i abuse Russia and USA TELEPATHY people and music ...

Hello people..... please IRISHA talk to my ICQ510690 , email : 778898@mail.ru
and read this site - ???? w.o.w ! ???????? ? ?? ?????????. - this is my blog and my thinks about telepathy and ufo and my life......


Telepathy ****ing idiots,stupid buster creep freak and say about my thinks other people.. women, master on work and etc...... telepathy just my life - BAD LIFE !

my family speak me - you crazy. I Crazy ? or telepathy man CRAZY ? poeple don`t talk about telepathy , but i think what this is poeple WAR telephety

[desertrat]

778898 most of that site is in Russian so I do not understand it . The English goes like this " I f*** your wife , mom, sister . I kill all your family you stupid buster . " Who is this intended for ? Is this intended for people like Mr G. ? G.? The pic with the dog is funny , and I guess its Mr G. doing the naughty thing . desert rat

[778898]

Originally Posted by desertrat

778898 most of that site is in Russian so I do not understand it . The English goes like this " I f*** your wife , mom, sister . I kill all your family you stupid buster . " Who is this intended for ? Is this intended for people like Mr G. ? G.? The pic with the dog is funny , and I guess its Mr G. doing the naughty thing . desert rat

Curses are intended for all who visit my head and influences my life without my consent and furthermore for those who does to me by badly means of telepathy


I use now the translator.... What drawing with a dog was pleasant to you? This http://y ademon.net/?p=70 this post about that that I in a telepathic matrix! Or this drawing with a dog http://y ademon.net/?p=114?

[778898]

I want to talk with Irisha! I am am tormented too by telepathists about 5-6 years! At me neodynes the telepathist, I am assured that them a little. They do not speak that they want from me. All Has begun it for a long time with acoustical and visual illusion. And then has smoothly passed in conversation. Irisha communicate with me let's discuss it. Also we will reduce your and my telepathist, can they will find common language and will lag behind us.

[desertrat]

The translators make it hard to understand . You can send Irisha a p.m. ( personal message ) through this forum , or have him/her send one to you . The forum rules require that only English be used on the main board , but I would think Russian is ok for a p.m. . Any problems could reported to a moderator. desert rat

[Irisha]

Hello, friends,
I am sorry, I couldn't answer your replies, couldn't even think about opening the computer, - felt soo badly... During , I think, 12 or 13 days, - day and night he has been making me feel this awful pain, nausea, starting at about 5 p.m., then the whole night, till 8 a.m., - he finishes at about 8 a.m., - and I start sleeping... Couldn't go to work, just from time to time. But I have to... So, I started going to work, just for a few hours per week... These 2 days it was better. I think he is also tired.
Now I am going to answer Rei's message, then I'll come back.

[Merrick1]

Hi Irisha,

I bought a very beautiful book on healing this summer by Edmund Harold. It is called Crystal Healing and there is a chapter in that book where he talks about his own experiences with psychic attacks. The chapter is called Psychic Self Defence. I thought it might inspire you.

Merrick

[royster]

It's a relief to see you on-line again, Irisha.

[desertrat]

If you have not already done so 778898 was looking for a pm from you . I think Russian is ok for a pm . I assume you both speak the same Russian. desert rat

[Irisha]

Thank you very much, Merrick. It is interesting to learn about psychic attacks. I think this self defence works when the connection hasn't been created yet. It helps prevent it.As for my link to Mr.G. it's hard to break it by means of the methods given in the books. I think, impossible. To be able to do that it's nesessary to know how he has made that Channel and maybe to use more energy to destroy it than he had used to create it. I was told that nobody can help, that I should ask Mr.G. himself. But I have been asking for 18 years already... When it started I liked it first, but still I didn't want it...

A nice cat, Royster...Is it your cat?.. Love cats...

Thank you, Desert Rat, very much for giving directions to that guy, I have e-mailed him.

[Irisha]

Now I'll tell you what preceded the Channel, and what kind of feeling I have while having this Channel.

At the very first class in meditation when we saw our teacher for the first time, we were given a Sign for meditation (some intertwined lines on a sheet of paper), and were instructed how to do it: start looking at the Sign on 3 levels, every next level being finer than the previous one.
When I started doing that I felt something very wierd - I felt like a magnet above my head! It was of the same nature as the magnet we feel between our hands (Can you feel it between your palms? You can put your hands closer, farther, and you will notice how it changes, how it can be stretched, you will feel its curves). I don't know about the other people in class, if they felt it above the head or not. Meditation and those occult studies presuppose individual experience, and the effect can be altered if you share. When the meditation was over the Magnet above my head disappeared.
Next time I felt it again. So, it happened many times when I was in class, and one day I felt it in the train, reading a book! The Magnet was above my head, going high, I didn't know how far, it was different every moment, changing in color and intensity. Since that time I had been feeling it always.
I didn't know what it was. I asked the Teacher when we were alone. He said that he knew about my Magnet, and that he could see a ' golden' plate close to the area of the third eye as well.
The reason why I am dwelling upon it for so long is the following:
When the Channel started, the Magnet moved inside! It's inside me now, I even feel it when breathing, it's like the same tense substance as it was above the head, and this is the same magnetic feeling of it which, I think, is used by Mr.G. to create this indissoluble connection. That is why I cannot break this bond. And nothing helps. The Magnet is inside. How did Mr.G. make it , move it inside? Do other people who can make Channels use the same method? HOW is it done? What is the mechanic of creating these connections? WHAT is this Magnet?
The Teacher hadn't given me any explanations . He'd just taken my attention away instead.

[Anagogy]

Irisha, I have a question.

How often would you say these attacks occur through the channel?

For example, how much of any given week is devoted to an attack on you from Mr. G?

Or how much of each day is devoted to attacking you?

[royster]

the "Thank You" thread

[Silenced140]

Originally Posted by Irisha

What kind of method is it? I know nothing about it.

Sorry that was a sick joke on my part. Jeffery Dahmer killed people an drilled holes in their skulls so he could pump their brain with acid. One of the world's most infamous serial killers.

[nicbrahms]

I am sorry that you feel like this Irisha. However, I second Anagogy's post that you only invite into your reality that which is in your vibration. Nobody or nothing can do anything to you unless you are allowing it via vibration.

I think you should seek help with what you imagine this man is doing to you, I think there are definitely some mental issues here and you need to see someone about that. Could be depression etc.

I think you got to stop playing a victim to this thing you imagine is happening to you, cause if you don't want it, stop it.

I'm sorry I am not being more sympathetic but I don't really believe anyone is psychically attacking you and has been for 18 years.

I think however, depression and what you believe is happening is causing your pain and helplessness, only you can take control and stop this.

Only my opinion so feel free to ignore it, but the minute I read this thread it felt completely wrong, as in you are misleading yourself.

Also the way you talk about this man its as though you had a crush on him or felt something for him, did you?

[elucidate]

There would have to be an emotional bond, I would think, for this sort of wickedness, I agree Nic.

Thought the same myself when I first read the OP as well, but I didn't say anything because I don't know what is really happening here to be honest? It obviously feels really real to this person, and that's the main thing.

We do attract our experiences though, for better or for worse. Being open to such a thing in the first place is probably something this person may want to look at?

Originally Posted by nicbrahms

I am sorry that you feel like this Irisha. However, I second Anagogy's post that you only invite into your reality that which is in your vibration. Nobody or nothing can do anything to you unless you are allowing it via vibration.

I think you should seek help with what you imagine this man is doing to you, I think there are definitely some mental issues here and you need to see someone about that. Could be depression etc.

I think you got to stop playing a victim to this thing you imagine is happening to you, cause if you don't want it, stop it.

I'm sorry I am not being more sympathetic but I don't really believe anyone is psychically attacking you and has been for 18 years.

I think however, depression and what you believe is happening is causing your pain and helplessness, only you can take control and stop this.

Only my opinion so feel free to ignore it, but the minute I read this thread it felt completely wrong, as in you are misleading yourself.

Also the way you talk about this man its as though you had a crush on him or felt something for him, did you?

[desertrat]

Let me third the opinions of elucidate , and nic. Irisha you might want to see a doctor and have them check you, just to make sure . It is possible that this is depression and not psy. mind control . Many people get depression , and with proper treatment lead normal lives . If Mr. G. is messing with your head it might make you depressed any way. desert rat

[Moonshine]

Irisha, you are delusional and hallucinating. This thread is both uplifting for the care and desire people have to see you get better, and on the other hand very troubling that there is collusion regarding what is clearly a disturbing mental illness. Go and see a doctor Irisha.

If any of you really do have evidence of telepathy or a 'telepathy channel', why not go and demonstrate your abilities to James Randi who will be happy to make you a millionaire. What are you waiting for? The offer has been open for over 40years....

[Merrick1]

Originally Posted by Moonshine

Irisha, you are delusional and hallucinating.....

Originally Posted by Moonshine

[This thread is both uplifting for the care and desire people have to see you get better, and on the other hand very troubling that there is collusion regarding what is clearly a disturbing mental illness. Go and see a doctor Irisha.

It is really uplifting to tell somebody in distress that they are delusional, hallucinating and mentally ill .

Originally Posted by Moonshine

If any of you really do have evidence of telepathy or a 'telepathy channel', why not go and demonstrate your abilities to James Randi who will be happy to make you a millionaire. What are you waiting for? The offer has been open for over 40years....

Well, firstly, everybody knows that Randi is a conceited freak who sets such conditions for his tests that no one can fulfill. And secondly, truly spiritual people usually do not have any desire to make a public show of their psychic abilities because they see them for what they are. They know what is truly important in life. Such people also know that those abilities have been given to them to help others, to make this world a better place and not to make clowns of themselves in a Randi circus. They also know that, if not used with humility and for the right purpose, their abilities could be taken away from them.

As for the depression as nickbrams is suggesting, who wouldn't be depressed in such a situation?

My suggestion Irisha is that you take the whole situation as a challenge. I know it's difficult. But you seem to have resigned and cannot see any light any more. And this is a sure way to hell. If you believe in Goodness, if you believe in Justice, how can you succumb to a dark force? Well, most of us do sometimes, but we have to get up again and turn back to the Light. Pray. Ask the Lord, ask Jesus Christ to help you. I even offered to tell you about another very powerful force of Light which has helped me a lot in my own life but you didn't even ask what it was. And my girlfriend says that it wouldn't help you anyway because you lack the trust. But if you really want to get out of all this, you need to trust. You need to have faith in God, you need to have faith in the Light. Nothing can ever harm a being who is full of Light! But you also need to come to understand the life lesson this has to teach you. And my feeling is that you still need to understand that not the occult, not some manipulation of energy but unconditional Love that flows through a pure heart is that which is really important in life.

I feel with you and don't think that you are mad. I remember a time in my own life when something in my unconscious became activated through some practices, strange, disturbing things became suddenly happening and I felt insecure and fearful, with no one to turn to. People were turning their backs on me, someone even told me that I might be depressed, as you yourself have been told here, a seer even told me that she could see literally crowds of black magicians queing to destroy me... It was truly uplifting But I was praying and actively continued to seek a spiritual help, until I found it. It took several years before I could say that it was all over but in retrospect I'm thankful for the experience. I have learned a lot from it about myself and about other people as well and it has greatly empowered me. And for several years now I have been helping people who are undergoing something similar, helping them to understand what is happening to them and why. Helping them to deal with it and to resolve it.

So, please get up, turn to God and ask Him to help you and to lead you to people who will be able to assist you with understanding and resolving your situation. And once you overcome the challenge, and I trust you will, you may then look back and laugh .

Merrick

[nicbrahms]

When I say depression I mean the myriad of symptoms that can accompany severe and long term depression, including some that Irisha describes.

I understand the channel, but I understand people will take your energy or pull from your aura, however, I have never heard of anyone controlling your hands, body, moods, thoughts etc that sounds like possession.

I think you gotta take your power back and stop scapegoating this bloke for everything that has happened in your life, seek help, forget him and move on.

I know it sounds cold but I genuinely think you are in a place where you have made your experience one of where you are putting your entire life in the hands of this man, or so you think, therefore absolving you of any responsibility.

Forget him, move on and make your life what you want. The power is in you and once again no one can do anything to you that you don't want doing.

I say this cause you are on here seeking advice after 18 years of this crap, I presume you wanna change your experience now.

Of course your experience and how you play it is entirely up to you and if this is your bag then thats cool.

Peace my friend and there is much love here for you, I will send you lots of green energy to you.

[royster]

Merrick1 is a real friend.
I was upset to see Irisha get Moonshine's comment, but then I also realise often the non-answers contain answers. And all avenues need to be examined. In addition, sometimes that which seems to make no sense is exactly the thing to do. (Example: car skidding on ice? Turn in the direction of the skid). I'm confident that each and every post on this thread contains part of the answer.

In recovering from alcoholism, we are instructed to admit we are powerless over alcohol; not any easy task, but it isn't a request that we whip ourselves daily, jump off of cliffs, or stand on street corners shouting - it merely suggests we ADMIT powerlessness. (WHAT! Steer in the DIRECTION of the skid!?) While Personal Development people will shrink back from this, the fact is...it works. Countless centuries of alcoholism running uncured, and suddenly in the past 70 years, millions are recovering from this disease...which incidently, controlled MY mind for 30 years.

Admitting powerlessness is just the first step, there are 11 others (which actually have nothing to do directly with alcohol) in which we find ways to disassemble our thought patterns...patterns influenced and directed over many years. I've written a few in-depth essays about this and similar topics. The most important step is to contact our Higher Power...the God of YOUR understanding...and trust It will assist you.

Mr. G is NOT your higher power; if he were, you'd be ascending now. Instead, you are near paralysis. Even IF Mr. G is of your mind's own creating, he's still got an edge over you. This "surrender" (admitting powerlessness) is not a slave-chain to be put around your neck; it is realising you've exhausted all of your own means, and NEED the God of your understanding. Those of us who know realize it is only by such surrender we are set free.

Regardless of any comments that may discourage you, Irisha, you still have many friends out here, and we're staying by you, Hell or high water. In my darkest hours, this was done for me. It was amazing how others believed in me when I didn't even believe in myself. I pass this along unconditionally.

[desertrat]

Irisha we here at this forum want to help you , we are not inside your head , so all we have to go by is what you have provided in your text . Mr G. may be doing something , but why would he continue for 18 years ? You may have some form of depression and need a doctors care . You may be possessed by a demon , a priest can do an exercism . desert rat

[desertrat]

Irisha you can do a smudging , it clears out a lot of nasty astral stuff . I posted some links on another post Creepy vibes in my room at night sage you can get at most new age book stores . desert rat

[Moonshine]

I think at this point a proper investigation into what Irisha's been going through by a medical professional would benefit Irisha.

The 'telepathic channel' that is being described is not an accepted human capability. It is imagination. Fiction. No-one can mind-read in this way attributed to Mr.G., or predict what you will do in the future or do things to you or perform psychokinesis with regards you, all through the air via a distance of many many miles. It is not humanly possible. There is no CREDIBLE, reliable evidence for that. Just make believe.

If this didn't concern an individual in distress, then I would say you are all welcome to your delusions. But Irisha clearly is disturbed herself and needs some proper assistance from a medical professional. I am not mocking any of you, we all haave delusions about the world in some way or another, & I see the good intent here (it's a pity you don't see mine), and the acceptance & firendship.... but at this point I think she really needs something in addition to that - to be persuaded to go and have a proper medical examination. Thats my view and I've put it down, that's all. You may well be right about telepathy, but scientific investigation points to that being very unlikely, and that is my belief.

True friendship is saying what you think is the best thing to do, even if it is not the popular thing to say or the most comfortable thing to be heard. Best wishes all.

[elucidate]

Giving your oppinion about this persons mental state is also just conjecture! You have no reliable qualifications other than YOUR belief in science as being all there is. I don't think this person asked for your oppinion or your advice...he/she asked for someone to listen and not write him off as crazy...which is exactly what you have done! In truth, you know about as much of what is going on for this person as we do...which is not very much!

Originally Posted by Moonshine

I think at this point a proper investigation into what Irisha's been going through by a medical professional would benefit Irisha.

The 'telepathic channel' that is being described is not an accepted human capability. It is imagination. Fiction. No-one can mind-read in this way attributed to Mr.G., or predict what you will do in the future or do things to you or perform psychokinesis with regards you, all through the air via a distance of many many miles. It is not humanly possible. There is no CREDIBLE, reliable evidence for that. Just make believe.

If this didn't concern an individual in distress, then I would say you are all welcome to your delusions. But Irisha clearly is disturbed herself and needs some proper assistance from a medical professional. I am not mocking any of you, we all haave delusions about the world in some way or another, & I see the good intent here (it's a pity you don't see mine), and the acceptance & firendship.... but at this point I think she really needs something in addition to that - to be persuaded to go and have a proper medical examination. Thats my view and I've put it down, that's all. You may well be right about telepathy, but scientific investigation points to that being very unlikely, and that is my belief.

True friendship is saying what you think is the best thing to do, even if it is not the popular thing to say or the most comfortable thing to be heard. Best wishes all.

[bluestar]

I have had -in the past, for many years- and still on the odd occasion have...a very strong deep and thorough telepathic link with someone, in which not only certain thoughts but also every nuance of emotion can be felt -both ways.
I have quite enough firm evidence of this too. It is evidence enough for me (though no-one else would see it) as I am very critical in my approach and need quite concrete evidence in order to give credence to a thing, whatever it may be. That's just the way I'm built.
But I very much doubt if Mr James Randi would see it that way -do you? He would not experience the same things I do because he wouldn't be able to see, sense, or anything else, our private telepathic contact. Much as I so need a million dollars!

Also, though I have no evidence whatsoever of Irisha's psychological condition, I am not necessarily willing to jump to the conclusion that all the phenomena she has experienced are as a result of mental illness. My guess is that the "channel" started out as real enough, and in most part, maybe still is real enough. But that there may be certain elements which have been misinterpreted over time, perhaps. If there is a lot of oppression, and the contact seems to be taking over life, it can make you feel many things are happening connected to the telepathic link, which may be quite random and unconnected.
For example...Mr G may well not be responsible for mistakes on the keyboard, or the vagaries of the Internet (which are often maddening!)

But when living under a shadow of this kind, one's whole life can tend to be coloured by those negative and oppressive things. The skill is in sorting out which things he really is connected to, and which things he is not -or all this can descend into delusion. And then what next? No-one will believe Irisha.

The only thing I am struggling with is why? Why would Mr G wish to control (and ultimately destroy) the will of not only Irisha, but another woman in Russia who was connected with him? For the kick of it? Because he's a control freak? Because he likes to manipulate women at a distance and gets a hit off it?? Because he has some sexual or otherwise -connection with them, and has a really twisted sexuality? Many sexual creeps can even live quite 'normal' lives on the surface, perhaps married with kids, etc...and their dark fantasies are reserved for their shadow selves. Some live out those fantasies in internet porn, visits with prostitutes, or other things. Maybe this telepathic channel is Mr G's 'kick'?? And he's using a special psychic gift he has to fulfil his dark fantasies?

[bluestar]

He ought to go see a psychic S&M prostitute, and leave Irisha alone

[elucidate]

I'm similar to you in this respect Bluestar. I think it's all too easy to just write someone off as crazy these days for things like this, which seem like the symptoms of delusion to outsiders. The thought that someone would end up in the loony ward because no one would believe them, just because these things haven't been proven by the scientific community, scares me.

We leave so much in the hands of ëxperts" when there is a vast number of things that they do not know about, and have only just started giving credence to the intuitive faculties of the brain, being a credible tool to use when conducting experiments. The wiser scientists know this, and use their intuition more these days.

There are a great many things we do not know about, and may not even be capable of fathoming properly with our finite minds, so I think dismissing anything that seems like delusion is a big mistake and can be very dangerous.

Originally Posted by bluestar

I have had -in the past, for many years- and still on the odd occasion have...a very strong deep and thorough telepathic link with someone, in which not only certain thoughts but also every nuance of emotion can be felt -both ways.
I have quite enough firm evidence of this too. It is evidence enough for me (though no-one else would see it) as I am very critical in my approach and need quite concrete evidence in order to give credence to a thing, whatever it may be. That's just the way I'm built.
But I very much doubt if Mr James Randi would see it that way -do you? He would not experience the same things I do because he wouldn't be able to see, sense, or anything else, our private telepathic contact. Much as I so need a million dollars!

Also, though I have no evidence whatsoever of Irisha's psychological condition, I am not necessarily willing to jump to the conclusion that all the phenomena she has experienced are as a result of mental illness. My guess is that the "channel" started out as real enough, and in most part, maybe still is real enough. But that there may be certain elements which have been misinterpreted over time, perhaps. If there is a lot of oppression, and the contact seems to be taking over life, it can make you feel many things are happening connected to the telepathic link, which may be quite random and unconnected.
For example...Mr G may well not be responsible for mistakes on the keyboard, or the vagaries of the Internet (which are often maddening!)

But when living under a shadow of this kind, one's whole life can tend to be coloured by those negative and oppressive things. The skill is in sorting out which things he really is connected to, and which things he is not -or all this can descend into delusion. And then what next? No-one will believe Irisha.

The only thing I am struggling with is why? Why would Mr G wish to control (and ultimately destroy) the will of not only Irisha, but another woman in Russia who was connected with him? For the kick of it? Because he's a control freak? Because he likes to manipulate women at a distance and gets a hit off it?? Because he has some sexual or otherwise -connection with them, and has a really twisted sexuality? Many sexual creeps can even live quite 'normal' lives on the surface, perhaps married with kids, etc...and their dark fantasies are reserved for their shadow selves. Some live out those fantasies in internet porn, visits with prostitutes, or other things. Maybe this telepathic channel is Mr G's 'kick'?? And he's using a special psychic gift he has to fulfil his dark fantasies?

[desertrat]

Playing with some ones mind and getting them to have sex with you is possible , I did it once . With Irisha and Mr G. on opesite sides of the earth I dont see the point . Irisha no one here is saying you are crazy , but for your sake if would be a good idea to get to a doctor and have them check you . If the doctor says your fine them there is no harm done . desert rat

[Mynder]

I must admit to not having read each and every message here, but some points came to the back of my mind, and were reinforced or clarified by what some of the others said:

1. You are not a victim, or rather, you do not have to continue to be one. On the flip side of this coin, the fact that you are suffering from this connection implies that on some deep level you still consider this telepathic link something good, something fascinating. Maybe something that makes you "special", and you may, on a subconscious level still be afraid to be "just normal, grey, colorless, like everybody else" again. Your mind will rebel against this explanation, but let it simmer for a while.

2. As I said, you are not a victim if you don't want to, and he does NOT have absolute control over you. Otherwise....why would he need to punish you? Why does it exhaust him when he keeps punishing him? Why does he punish you worse and worse the more you go against his will? Because he can't control you. He cannot really force you to do stuff you don't want to do, when you really put your will behind it. The mere fact that he finds it necessary to punish you is proof that his power over you is very limited.

Each and every time he punishes you is a sign that you have triumphed over him...even if it is just a tiny bit every time. Feel your own power and independence! Know that you are anything but a helpless victim. You can fight, and you can even fight BACK.

There are several ways to deal with energies like this. One way is smothering it with love and light. The other is sending back what is sent to you. Threefold. "Return to sender" is a lovely song by Elvis Presley. Next time he hurts you, visualize a mirror reflecting it back at him through the channel. Because that is the nature of channels: they work both ways. You may not be spared the pain, because especially in the beginning his energies will still get through to you out of "habit" (you are so used to allowing his energies in that you won't be able to just shrug them off from one moment to the other), but once he gets the hint that he can be on the receiving end of it as well, he may pull out and leave you alone. If phone calls scare him, just think what this will do to him.

I realize this attitude may not be popular with everyone on here. But there are beings and people out in the world who do not recognize anything but strength and power as a deterrent when you can't, for some reason or other, vibrate on a high enough level to not get affected/afflicted by them in the first place.

You must be very angry. I can imagine anger being one of the strongest emotions you carry around with you right now. Normally, the soundest advice would be to ground yourself, accept this anger, and then release it. In this case, I suggest accepting it, and condensing it, compressing it into a tight red globe, and send it back through the link when he tries to make you do something you don't want to, or hurts you.

3. If you know other "victims" of his mind control, get in touch. Meet, if possible, and exchange ideas and thoughts. Work in unison. Concentrate on the same formulas and thoughts to send him. Realize your collective power to control how much he is allowed to control you. Share that his punishment is a sign of his failure to control you. There is strength in numbers.

You already ARE more powerful than he is. His power is based on your fear and your fascination with the psychic energies he seems to so effortlessly wield. Once this fear stops, this awe, once you realize that he is just human, and is afraid of many things himself, once you take him down from the huge pedestal that he stands on in your thoughts right now, he will be...just a man. A man who maintains an illusion of power through intimidation and fear.

Conquer your fear, and you win your freedom.