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Here's one that's BOUND to work: next time you feel his presence, repeat this in your mind: Hello. Your telepathic message IS important to us. PLEASE: stay on the line; an operator will take your message in the order it was received. [20 seconds of elevator music]Hello. Your telepathic message IS important to us. PLEASE: stay on the line; an operator will take your message in the order it was received. [20 seconds of elevator music]Hello. Your telepathic message IS important to us. PLEASE: stay on the line; an operator will take your message in the order it was received. [20 seconds of elevator music] |
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Those psychics you knew in Russia who were trying to help were failing because they were trying to break/dissolve a strong bond almost like a kind of marriage in a sense... also you were trying consciously to dissolve it....but the bond has been forged on a deeper level than the conscious Will. Energy is being constantly re-inforced from both sides in this bond. Both from Mr G's side, and from your side. How can anything external break that unless it has a way to get at the very roots of this in the subconscious level? It's a bit like an electric circuit that has set up its own "flow-and-return" energetic pattern. Something has to short it out. (or even EARTH IT?) I obviously don't know the half of what you have had to endure, but have you considered facing this man in an ordinary everyday way, telling him straight out that you will not put up with any more psychic manipulation, that you are not a fool, and that he had better get himself out of your space astral/mental/etheric and otherwise, if he values his immortal Soul, his destiny, and his own mental health in the future... for what he is doing is abominable? And telling him you refuse to be intimidated, you will not co-operate any more, and that you are aware he is a psychic vampire feeding his twisted logic and desires by preying on attractive women whom he assumes to be 'victims'?? And that you have moved on, and aren't playing those games any more. That would certainly "Earth" the whole thing (you will no doubt get cool denial, maybe even feigned concern for you, and he will probably put your mental health in question as well, leaving you with the soul-destroying experience of believing him).... But if you prepare properly for this encounter and stay very very strong and centered you can get through it. Especially if you have meaningful emotional support with you at the time. Preferably someone you love. If you feel you could do that, and that it would benefit you, it would certainly be worth a terrific long journey to Siberia and back to achieve it. You might even find closure... Last edited by bluestar; 10-18-2010 at 11:26 PM. |
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Yes, I tried to "earth" it. When I was in Russia, during my last year of living there, I started taking measures : I called him by phone, visited him, and told him almost the same and almost with the same words as you advise me in your message. I had done it on the Channel before. But I didn't visit him, didn't talk to him in person for so many years because he informed me on the Channel that he had left Russia. And at the very beginning, when the Channel had just started, I was prohibited to go to the Club meetings, that's why I didn't see him in person. But when it was my last year in Russia I told one of my colleagues about him because I needed to borrow money (one of his favourite jokes - for having fun? - was to 'steal' money from me - not for himself - he didn't materialize money in his pocket - but he enjoyed it when he organized it and I lost it. He even informed me beforehand that he would do it. How he did it? I tried to be very careful, but could do nothing against it. I told you he can hypnotize on the Channel, and it happenned like this. When I was outside, or in a store, or in the canteen, I suddenly felt like a green fog and saw it around me for a moment - then I remembered nothing - he like switched off my consciousness for a few seconds, - and I could do nothing against it! Those were the moments when I was taking out money, or my purse. He made me put it on the counter or table, - and leave. Then I realized that I had done smth wrong, rushed back - but it was too late! No money, no purse. People quickly took it.). So, I told my colleague about him (because she said that she was interested and believed in paranormal), and it happenned that her husband had worked with him before in one and the same Institute. She quickly dialed some numbers, and we found out that he hadn't left Russia, that he was still living in E-burg, and she even learned his phone number and address. Do you know what he told me when I called him? After all those visits on Wednesdays for special meditations, after that Kundalini Meditation when he said about my past, my future, about the Channel, and the stuff, - he said that he didn't know who I was and that he knew nothing about the kind of things I was talking about!!! I visited him where he lived - he didn't open me the door. I was staying near his door for six hours, I told him I wouldn't leave till he talked to me. At last at 11.30 p.m. he opened the door and went out with a big , taller than he, woman who happened to be his wife, and repeated again (looking into my eyes) that he had never seen me before, that he saw me for the first time, and that he would call the police. I said OK. Call the police. However he didn't. I asked him: "So, you have never seen me. What about those meetings on Wednesdays, every week, during several months?" He said: "It never happenned". "What about the Channel, and everything you were doing to me on the Channel during all these years?" "I don't know what you are talking about". "What about the Club?" "It's just the Club for practicing meditation". No way, no device to proove this telepathy, this Channel. Last edited by Irisha; 10-19-2010 at 01:49 AM. | |
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OK got that. It figures actually that he would do and say that. A lot of it is also familiar to me. So -it didn't work. That was "Earthing" it all right. But what you got for that was feeling no doubt like you had been turned to mush, that you perhaps even started doubting your own basic instincts, very upset, and not much further along. Because when all that was over.....there he was back again doing exactly the same stuff...? So you start thinking when it all starts happening again.....is this deeply meant to be? Or is this deeply taking the piss? I have a feeling a really, really good Shaman could help you perhaps. Someone very strong -who isn't afraid of these levels, who can really handle them. I get a feeling a strong Shaman from your own country is what you need. I can sense the energy but of course I can't know who that would be. Is there anyone you know from Ekaterinburg who would know about where to go to find someone like that? Have you had a word with Erin? I know she's not a Shaman, but she sounds very much like she's got her act together. |
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Everything started again when I left his house. At the moment I was talking to him I was so excited, like in a trans, I still felt his presence on the Channel (did I? actually I don't know), but he was keeping silence. After I left he was talking again, nothing changed. I also think that somebody very strong, stronger than he probably could help.But where to find them? Mr.G. is very, very strong. I have never heard, never seen published any information about anything that sounds similar to what has happened to me, or about a person who has so many various psychic powers - all in one person - like him. My Teacher who invited me for meditation and got me acquainted with Mr.G. was also his puppet. Mr.G. said about it at Kundalini Meditation. He repeated it several times. He said that Y.E. was having a Channel, that I was a very bright disciple and took that Channel from him (his words), that when we met again Y.E. would be without the Channel, and I wouldn't see him as a special person because of that. As I understand, Y.E. was also used by Mr. G. Y.E. conducted meditations in the Club as if he were the main person, it was he who organized this Club, but it was done with the help of Mr.G., and this help was given through the Channel. Do you mean Erin Pavlina? | |
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ALL good responses, insightful and experienced. What a great lesson for us all. One factor that might be useful to ponder is the focus on "impacted energies". This event has compacted thought within your psyche, and it's a lot like spiritual constipation. In many cases, deep, hard laughter dislodges a certain amount of the impacted energies. So Irisha (and others!) DO try to occassionally lighten up and have a gut-quaking laugh. It's good in MANY areas of the soul. Cruise around "Fun And Recreation" and get involved in some silliness...take breaks from the serious, and remember that playing with your friends here is just as important as serious discussion. LAUGH: Provide a caption LEARN: Impacted Energies-discussion LIVE: Make an unfounded claim about the poster above you LET GO: JUMP STARTS Last edited by royster; 10-19-2010 at 12:12 PM. |
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But definitely, yes, if you acknowledge that your true nature is pure Consciousness, untainted and untaintable, then nothing and nobody can have any power over you. But it is easy to say. If it were also easy to truly understand and live, this world would be a loving place, free of hatred and violence, full of harmony. You live in New York. I'm sure there must be some great vipassana teachers there. Go and do a longer silent meditation retreat with some of them. There is an excellent vipassana teacher in Canada. His name is U Vansa and he is also completing his doctorate in psychology. He travels, every year he comes to my country as well and I have translated for him twice. I am sure he would be able to teach you a lot. Maybe he also runs retreats in New York. But there certainly must be more quality teachers in such a big city. I don't think this alone would resolve such a serious problem, though. Merrick Last edited by Merrick1; 10-19-2010 at 02:09 PM. | |
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There is one thing you might try , get in to a meditative state , do the circulation of white light , its part of a ritual from the golden dawn . Repeat the words over and over " I have erased all links to Mr. G. " . In the circulation of white light you draw down white light from a point in space through each chakra with an in breath , 3 times to each chakra then out the feet and move the light around your body . Here are the chakras chakras When I find the ritual I will post it . desert rat
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Here are links for the ritual , there are variations , I dont use the Latin word , I do the ritual laying down . Middle Pillar Ritual (including circulation of body light) - The Fool Speaks: Magick, Mayhem, Goetia, and the Occult Forums Circulating the Light The Middle Pillar Exercise desert rat
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Thank you very much, guys! So much help, so much kind attitude and care I received from you! Royster, you made me laugh many times! THIS IS THE COMMUNITY OF REALLY LOVING AND GIVING HELP PEOPLE! I'LL NEVER FORGET HOW YOU TRIED TO DO YOUR BEST TO HELP ME, MY FRIENDS! It was especcially important after these two very hard nights and days. He was punishing me for what I have done , for making public the information about him. He usually punishes me with pain , now he added vomiting (many times, without any natural reason). He started it a week ago, now it became a nightmare. I couldn't go to work on Monday, am not able to go today. I called him by phone many times asking to stop it. He said he was recording to open a case against me because I was bothering him! This idea about finding other gurus is good but it is hard to perform, and it is not for me. First of all I cannot leave the house now because of feeling so badly. I cannot afford start vomiting in the bus or on the street. I just want to lie and wait till it has passed by. But I'll never stop telling the world ALL I know about him. |
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I'd just tell him to F**K OFF! and chuck things at him...but that's my inimitable style (not as Love and Light as I probably should be No seriously now.... You could try the website: shamanism.org This will connect you with practising Shamans if you require this form of intervention -in New York, so it wouldn't have to necessarily be "Distance Work" This may be what is known as an Intrusion You would need a Shamanic Practitioner who can work with Intrusions. |
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I practice the white meditation , you lay down , visualize a beam of white coming from a point in deep space . You bring it to the chakra at the top of your head , you visualize a point of white on the top of your head . You draw down the lite while taking a deep breath . You do this 3 times for each chakra and go to the next one . Then you wrap the white light around your body . I think the golden dawn book is still in print and most of this will be in there. If you are sick you can direct energy to that part . You can form a pitchure in your mind of your stomach filled with white light . This works for me most of the time .If I were you I would stop calling Mr. G. it will make him what he is doing is not working and maby he will stop . desert rat
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The spiritual realms are now quite aware of mr. G.'s actions. I don't suggest letting up, but I think sufficient energy is well underway. I would feel better if rei participated: I have confident respect for her insights. From bluestar: Quote:
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I had the same thought. If anyone can help this person in these matters, it's Rei (not that you all aren't doing a fabulous job as well of course.) Quote:
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The thing is he is affraid of my calls. That's why I was calling. After a call he stops for some time. But then he starts again. He is sitting there, waiting for my calls, so that nobody else in his house could answer. Because they don't know what a monster he is. His wife knows nothing. She just cooks for him breakfast, lunch and dinner. I don't know about his first wife - maybe she knew about his psychic abilities. But she died (was killed by a lightning! - in the countryhouse) about two years after he started the Channel with me. This new wife didn't believe me when I told her that he was a psychic reader. She even didn't know much about the Club, and its role in his life. Some psychic people in Russia are not like the ones here, in the US. They don't organize it like a service for those who need psychic help. They do it in a different way, like Mr.G. in his Club. They hide their abilities. If they are very strong. They declaire to be free of any psychic activity, - it's just meditation and lectures about the God in the Club, - that's it, they say. Why? I think they absorb energy doing it secretly. Maybe that's why they are so strong? First they give a lot of positive energy for those newcomers. They start attending the Club meetings, love it more and more, they cannot help coming again and again. They need this energy which is given to them like a drug. At this point they start being tested concerning their total agreement with the ideas of the Teacher,- and if they are not qualified they do not receive this positive energy any more, and start feeling the same the drug dependent person feels without a doze. And this energy dependance of the involved people is a delicious meal for Mr.G. and the like. I learned about that at the Conference devoted to the problems of parapsychology, and when I started asking questions to the Teacher, - I was isolated from the Club members by means of his invitation for some special meditations. I have already told you about weekly meetings with the Teacher, & Mr.G. Then the Channel started, and I experienced absolutely new stage in my life having telepathy contact with such a strong psychic leader, and was absolutely happy about that. I've completely forgotten about the Conference, about my questions which were left without answer, and didn't remember about them, because he suppressed my thoughts about everything which was not good for him and his activity. I think he started doing it immediately because I hadn't remembered about my questions since the time when I first met him. I could start asking questions at the meetings, people could notice the signs of the strategy used . Is it honest to use people in this way and conceal the truth about influence, hypnosis and energy manipulating? Those newcomers in the Club know nothing about what he can do with them later. They know nothing about the real leader, and how strong he is. I even think now that the strongest have to keep away from publicity, they hide themselves to have their secret methods to enlarge their energy, - that's why it is so hard to find smbd who is as strong as Mr.G. I came to the Club meetings many years after the Channel had started, when I had no illusions about that monster, but the Teacher didn't allow me to participate , and asked me to leave (I was not qualified, he said.) When I tried to talk to the people after the meditation, - all were new, nobody wanted to listen to me, they felt euphoria after the meeting, and were absolute fanatics of the Teacher. Now Mr.G. is affraid that I can talk to his wife instead of him, is waiting near the phone, he is nervous, and by this I can take a little breath between his attacks. Last edited by Irisha; 10-20-2010 at 01:08 AM. |
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Just want to add smth after having read your replies: I appreciate your help, my friends, very, very much! Your concern, your interest, your advice is the best help for me! Don't think that he destroyed me completely. I love to laugh. I am always OK, always, inspite of his attacks. I just want to inform people about what he can do. That's why I write about everything he is doing with me now, about his secret method, and will write all that I know about him. Last edited by Irisha; 10-20-2010 at 12:14 AM. |
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I also hope so. I don't know if I am right about his method of accumulating psychic powers. May be he was born so strong.But I do know that they practice secret energy manipulating in Mr.G.'s Club and in other Clubs. I hope making their secrets public will destroy their dishonest activity, and reduce their power, if it is used for manipulating and vampirizm. |
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This is not the most organized or succinct post ever from me (probably need to get in the habit of short and sweet with as much as I'm doing these days royster, elucidate, Andrew - thank you Irisha, I sense that bluestar really understands what you describe here. You may want to pay special attention to her ideas. bluestar, I hope I got your gender correct. I think Anagogy raises some very valid points as well. It would probably help to reassert your personal will and your ideal experience of your reality by shifting your focus. That isn't the same thing as denial. It is acknowledging the experience and consciously choosing to harmonize/align with what you would prefer. That might mean, instead of a thought battle, you simply go for a walk and get some fresh air, then decide to skip, or pick a flower. Less thinking more doing. Especially if you feel like a thought battle would happen otherwise in that moment. Start to stretch beyond the patterns you've been using for this, get spontaneous and unpredictable and that could help also. And you may want to double check where you stand on this stuff as well, like if your distaste is mixed with fascination or interest or a neutral/positive related to any aspect of the experience. You could also work with Rose Rosetree for cord-cutting. Anna Conlan offers it too. Helps if you have worked up to strong belief in the possibility of cutting a major cord associated with him. Thought is powerful, yours included, even all things considered. I noticed when you were responding to this idea from Anagogy, the content of your response on the things he makes you do... you could start to shift that way of viewing it (even if, as I can see, you have evidence of the way you're used to this happening) so that you are imagining that anything you previously attributed to him is something that is now coming from your higher self, a projected but harmless aspect of yourself, or even the sentience of your pet poodle. Instead of assigning it to him, assign it to something that you feel stronger than in comparison. It may feel false at first but as you continue this you can retrain your mind and your energy patterns would also shift. Feeling like someone or something else is in control of us is usually a scary thing even if it ends up a kind of 'new normal.' So it may help, first off, to let any feelings related to that come to the surface - to own them - as it's easier to raise our vibe when we're letting that stuff come up. Same goes for any desperation you have felt about resolving this, or fear that you must simply deal with it the rest of your life. Accept and love the feelings and yourself for accepting them. If you feel like crying, cry and that would be a helpful thing to do. Then continue to give yourself opportunities to feel good and to feel in control. Manufacture those opportunities and continue to do so even if half the time it is obvious you're manufacturing them. Add this to framing these experiences in some way that means they are still under YOUR control. Even if that means being random and unpredictable in the things you do to show yourself you are in charge of yourself and even if these start out as little moments of being in charge of you, make a point to notice how often you are controlling your body/experience. You might also do a ritual to return your individual self energy to you, and release his to him. The wording isn't terribly important and it could be very simply done. You could add something about "on all levels and all times" to cover your previous interactions. Realize that you really can shift this experience if, as you read this idea, you felt like it is impossible to achieve the goal. You definitely would want to change thoughts like that. I might also suggest taking a break from spiritual pursuits (sorry haven't read every post but in case you are still focusing on spiritual[ism] or energy you might want to shift to a very earthy way of living your life. Lots of strenuous (for you, but also safe) exercise, heavy foods, any activity that feels very grounded. And shift so your thoughts and pursuits are also focused on very earthy activities and topics. Think living like a skeptic or atheist who is also physically active. That could also alter your energy body in support of your goal. You could also try working with the ritual outlined by Diane Stein with the Lords of Karma. It involves a very particular phrasing that covers all the lifetimes, and levels, past and present. I don't really offer this as a service because I don't like the idea of intervening in karmic issues. But if you would like to explore this, you could learn how to do the process for yourself through this text. I like it because it involves reflecting on what we are possibly trying to learn from an experience and it is a pretty broadly phrased ritual so it's set up to take care of, say, little agreements made 'long ago' or little agreements somehow made between aspects in the in-between phases. Things like that. Aside from that I would really suggest focusing on your joy, your lightness, your physicality. And also reframe these moments where you previously understood or viewed it as his influence. Pick something that seems harmless, innocuous, completely in your control, and assign that meaning from this point forward. I would also suggest some selfishness. Yes, really. That will help you train yourself to shift to an inward focus by default... and that will shift the patterns in your energy associated with external influence. Meditation is one way (I suggest approaching even meditation in a very physically-active-atheist kind of way), but really just focus on putting yourself first, asserting your preferences and boundaries - even in moments that are completely unrelated to this situation. Verbalizing your boundaries will help also, possibly more so, even in unrelated settings. Combining this with the above suggestion to do very earthy things and turn it into a habit will enhance the benefits of both. You might also try the Astral Dynamics forum, or try Robert Bruce's book on psychic self-defense. It might be that you have some old trauma images stored, that you could work with and become more slippery, energetically. Definitely if you know of any past traumatic experiences, it would probably benefit you to do some conscious work on them whether through the methods in Bruce's book or art therapy (self-directed or otherwise) or journaling or work with a professional counselor for those things. Note I'm not speaking of quick fixes here, but rather small adjustments to your way of being that will, over time, make your energy much harder to influence because it would alter your whole vibration. Hypnosis to adjust the subconscious patterns would intensify the work and possibly quicken it. I am available for email-based coaching if you would want more specific support with any of these suggestions, though I'll say the ultimate force of change would still be you. I offer intuitive tools and resources and support for folks who are ready/choosing to shift things for themselves, and I offer energetic snapshots of situations or decisions, but if you want a more hands-on intervention type of support where you are not as active in the process, you might prefer something like what Merrick1 offered you, or you might want to hire a shaman who specializes in intrusions. You may also want to look into hiring a Spirit Releasement Practitioner/Therapist, though of course check out the various offers and pick one that you feel good about. This particular method relies largely on hypnosis, and though it's generally for disembodied energy you may come across some who have experience with the dynamics you described. Anyway, that's briefly what I would suggest in your situation. I'd also suggest doing things that lift you up emotionally, even better if they are also heavy on earth energy. Rigorous exercise that leads to that jolt of feelgood chemicals is one example of what you could do for this. Spend about thirty minutes a day with your bare feet on the grass too, if you can - and use this time to reflect on very earthy/grounded topics, or clear your mind as you do it, or use the time to consciously energize the kind of experience you would prefer in your life. That's about all I have on the topic. royster, thank you for bringing it to my attention. I've had so very much going on with my services and other things that I've not had much time to keep checking around here - so thanks so much for letting me know about this thread! Irisha, feel free to let me know if you have any questions about what i said here, through a reply or a private message or you can get in touch through my site. I hope this sorts out for you, at any rate. Last edited by rei; 10-20-2010 at 02:50 AM. |
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Many blessings, rei: we certainly have lots of respect for you here, and your post above shows why. Thank YOU for checking in. Irisha is to be thanked for bringing up this very valuable topic. It has certainly helped me understand where people can leave themselves spiritually vulnerable, and some of the severe consiquences of intrusion. I pray for a positive resolve in this event, confident those prayers have been heard. |
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Im only half way through your story and im going to dinner with a friend. but before i go i wanted to say im sending love to you, and good intentions for a positive result SOON. this man should not abuse his gift. The world needs to grow, not serve as puppets to the selfish powerful few. you're in my thoughts. -wasm |
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The one thing I do know is..... it is impossible to play one radio station on a radio, at the same time another radio station on a different wavelength is playing on the same radio. What I mean is this: He is operating on a certain wavelength with you. He has "rapport" with you and so his tune is being accepted by your receiver. So you end up playing his tune. That wavelength is your "vibration" -and the energy pattern you transmit and receive on (and is the same as it was probably before you first met Mr G....during your time with the "Group-work"....and since you left to come to New York) But you may not always have been using this particular wavelength. It may be something you have acquired since knowing him. My belief is that this "Wavelength" inside you can be altered. Wavelengths like this are reinforced by habitual thought and emotion patterns and responses. You might think it's just you but I know it can be changed. You can start sending and receiving on a different wavelength, playing a new radio station -if you like to see it that way. So the other one won't get any reception. So I feel that if you started giving 100% passion -100% energy into something quite unrelated -and felt that thing right in your bones, and lived it and breathed it every day.....and never, ever, for one single minute gave even one thought (and certainly no emotion) to Mr G, because you considered him quite beneath you and your new interests....your wavelength would change! What?? I don't know. The new thing would have to be all-consuming. Really important to you. Really strong. In my experience, things are definitely inclined to wither when they are given absolutely no attention, and I mean subconsciously as well. |
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