Abuse in Telepathy Channel

[Irisha]

Yes, sure, on a practical level it doesn't make difference if we have a free-will, or it's an illusion created by God. We do our everyday things, and don't need any philosophy for that. But if we TALK about Free Will it's a different level. When I say that MG cannot be fully responsible for what he has done and is doing I don't mean a practical level regarding me and my problem. I mean that I feel pity for him. God gave him his awesome abilities, but hasn't given him enough shame for his secret torturing of other people. God created him like this. God hasn't given him enough power to understand and to overcome his inclination for wrong choices. I DON'T DEFEND him on the practical level. But I do feel pity for him on the philosophical level. Here is the problem: how to combine the practical and philosophical levels. How to love MG if he is torturing me.

[Irisha]

[QUOTE=MysteryX;886024]
We are all born with 4 main implants connecting us to the cultural aggregate around us and preventing us from thinking freely: behind the head, behind the neck, behind the shoulders and below the back. He created an additional implant on the lower back of your head on the area controlling your subconscious mind and he knew what he was doing. Visualizing a teal flame can cut implants. /QUOTE]

MysteryX,
What is a teal flame?

[mrthejazz]

Originally Posted by Irisha

Yes, sure, on a practical level it doesn't make difference if we have a free-will, or it's an illusion created by God. We do our everyday things, and don't need any philosophy for that. But if we TALK about Free Will it's a different level. When I say that MG cannot be fully responsible for what he has done and is doing I don't mean a practical level regarding me and my problem. I mean that I feel pity for him. God gave him his awesome abilities, but hasn't given him enough shame for his secret torturing of other people. God created him like this. God hasn't given him enough power to understand and to overcome his inclination for wrong choices. I DON'T DEFEND him on the practical level. But I do feel pity for him on the philosophical level. Here is the problem: how to combine the practical and philosophical levels. How to love MG if he is torturing me.

I would say that your freedom is the priority. Sometimes the most loving action is to remove someone from your life entirely. Sometimes the most loving action is to do something that initially hurts them, not because you want them to experience pain, but because you want them to grow.

Abstractly, if I were in your position, and I had a choice to do something that might hurt Mr. G at first, but would help him grow out of his torturing ways, I would seriously consider an option like that. Think of it like pruning a dead branch to help new branches grow.

If I had an option that would free myself and perhaps hurt him as a side effect, I would definitely consider that option, because it might make him stop and think about what he's doing to people. Whatever path gets you freedom, (and is preferably legal).

[MysteryX]

Originally Posted by Irisha

What is a teal flame?

What is Alchemy | Alchemical Healing

[Irisha]

Thank you very much, MysteryX.

[Irisha]

Originally Posted by mrthejazz

I would say that your freedom is the priority. Sometimes the most loving action is to remove someone from your life entirely. Sometimes the most loving action is to do something that initially hurts them, not because you want them to experience pain, but because you want them to grow.

I am trying to remove him from my life.
When I noticed that that implant from him became weaker first I was very happy about it. Then I felt that I was becoming indifferent about life. It doesn't matter for me now if I am alive or not.
Now I see the world around me as a place where I have to stay untill I have to go to the other side. Yes, I ought to do this and that. Yes, I am responsible for many things, and I must think about people connected with me. Yes, I will do what I should.
But if God takes my life right now, I have nothing against it. I mean I am indifferent about it. I think it's good that I am not afraid of it. But it's not good for people I am connected with. I understand that without me they will have problems.
As for MG he has become much more distant from me, though sometimes he still shows me his presence. Sure, he doesn't like it that I try to escape. But maybe his mood has changed because of some other reasons. Maybe he doesn't feel good. He says: No. I hope he is OK. I also hope he is not playing a game as it has been before. When he stopped the pain, and then started again as if nothing had changed. No, he doesn't make any pain to me now. But his mood has changed, I feel that. He is sad. Or not? No answer.
And I feel absolutely indifferent about anything. About life. It's good to live, I understand that. But I don't feel that. I knew that it would be like this without him. So, I am ready for it. Let it be like this.

[Summerbreeze]

Hi Irisha,

You need to follow your interests and find meaning in your life, in fact people in third world countries are in average happier because they mostly have still a meaning in life, may it be struggling to get something done to survive.

All the best.

~sb

[Irisha]

Thank you, Summerbreeze. Yes, I will. I have meaning in my life. I still have it.

[Irisha]

MysteryX, you have a wonderful web-site, with a very interesting information. Still I don't know what the word 'teal' means. The dictionary gives the translation 'chirok' in Russian, which means some type of a bird. Can it be translated as 'bright-blue', or 'bright-white'?
MysteryX, if it's really YOU who has done it, and MG appears to be much more on some distance now, it's absolutely awesome that you've managed to do that. Nobody was able to. How did you do that? I still cannot believe that it has happened.
Thank you SO, SO MUCH.
I hope it took not too much time?
I hope MG doesn't bother you, he is a nasty thing.
He is doing everything like through some veil now. He is mostly keeping silence. It was like this just for several moments, almost never - before.
Your method happened to be very, very good and powerful.
I was advised by Bluestar to find a shaman, I e-mailed several of them who I've found in the net, but nobody has answered. It was long ago. Now I can see that she was right. It's a shamanic method that helps! When you tried it immediately gave a result! OMG!
I feel I need to live not in New York, but in the forest, and study not all those occult things I was obssessed by, but something from shamanic culture.
Thank you a lot. You have turned my life.

[MysteryX]

It just took me a few minutes. He did come back to me a few days later but I shut the doors tight and didn't leave him any space to get anywhere close. Probably his mood changed after that. Not only did I put a protection wall between me and him, but also between you and him.

Teal is a color. The color is on the page I gave you.

I did some more healing to awaken a sense of desire for life.

[MysteryX]

Implants are an unknown concept in most widespread healing arts. It just takes someone with knowledge about that to identify it and with the proper tool to cut it.

Here's something fun you can do against black magic: visualize a mirror bubble around him that bounces his intentions back

[JSB]

Did you get any sense of him and his energy? Is he as much of a malevolent prick as he comes off in this thread?

Originally Posted by MysteryX

It just took me a few minutes. He did come back to me a few days later but I shut the doors tight and didn't leave him any space to get anywhere close. Probably his mood changed after that. Not only did I put a protection wall between me and him, but also between you and him.

Teal is a color. The color is on the page I gave you.

I did some more healing to awaken a sense of desire for life.

[bluestar]

What I am glad about, Irisha, is that you reached out and called out for help, and didn't give up, and kept trying no matter what some people thought about it, or your psychiatric state.
You knew help was out there I think, so you never quit!
So let's hope (as it seems to be right now) that this time Mr G has got the message! That he cannot violate Universal law the way he has been doing and get away with it for very long -no matter how powerful he thinks he is

[MysteryX]

I haven't read the thread. I was just exasperated to see 13 pages(!) of mental masturbation.

Mr G isn't very different from Irisha, who is the one who went to the occult school in the first place. He's just a hurt soul trying to find himself. Just like Irisha who was trying to find himself by going there.

I did feel him at some point and I was observing what was his intention. He wasn't attacking me or anything, he was just insecure and unsure about what to do. I made him a gift by detaching the implant feeding him: I gave him space to find himself. It's like the day you take the bottle away from a baby: you're making him a gift. It's time for him to grow.

He's simply behaving like a drug addict to who you took away part of his cocaine dose. He's insecure, erratic and sometimes fighting without direction.

He's just a kid who learned how powerful is fire. That is, until it touches water.

Positive energies are much stronger than negative energies.

[veloci]

I sent prayers to you Irisha. Bless your soul.

[Irisha]

Sorry. Again it's just MJ's game, I think.
Last night he made me feel very strong nausea, several times, suddenly, without any reason. It started very quickly, developed very quickly almost into vomiting, then stopped, also suddenly and very quickly. Several times like this. After that I felt absolutely normal, every time. It happened many times before, I wrote about it in the thread. It's one of his favourite tricks.
BUT I really feel him more on the distance now! He is talking to me rarely,and like from a far away place. Now I don't know if this is also his game playing, or the result of MysteryX's activity. At least I can have some rest from his permanent talking (mainly about things which upset me, and made me feel sad).
MysteryX, I am very much grateful to you. Thank you for your additional healing. YOUR method has helped. Where did you study your art? You seem to think about me as of a person who is the same like MG, and as malevolent as him because I went to the occult school. It was a school where we studied astrology, palm reading, meditation, - you could have read about it in the thread. Maybe to read it is boring, - that's OK, - my aim is just to provide information about the dangerous outcomes of dealing with psychics from the SECRET societies, about their illegal and unethical methods (which MG uses in his experiments on me and other people). I repeat it again though I have repeated it many times in the thread: this is my only aim.

[Nimue]

This is awesome, Irisha!!! I'm so happy things are finally getting better It's been so lucky you were around, MysteryX, I didn't know how to help!

I agree with Bluestar, what was important is that you didn't stop all this time. Keep it up!!!
You may actually get to become an activist of the paranormal after it's all over-but you should get freer and psychically healthier for start

Btw I was under the impression you went to a normal school that had some side-classes on the paranormal, as a semi-independent activity. But this sounds like the school of Harry Potter O_o Would you mind describing briefly what kind of school it was? I'm a little curious.

[Irisha]

About Occult College.

It was the first, and it happened to be the only one Occult College which was opened in Ekaterinburg, Russia, after perestroyka. People were not allowed to study or practice any psychic, or paranormal things legally in the Soviet Union. So, when I read in the newspaper in 1991 about this College I was so glad that I had the opportunity to study what I had been interested in long before. I signed up, and the classes started in a few days.

This college was founded by Anna Kiryanova who is a well-known person in E-burg now. She is a psychic reader, has her program on TV, is the author of several books, publishes articles in the journals. At the College she lectured on several subjects, such as palm reading, ESP, Kabbalah. She invited very interesting people to conduct classes in astrology and numerology: Alexander Kazantzev, the Head of the Urals Astrological Society, Alexander Minkin who had Astrology Club on TV. And she also invited Yury Lobanov for meditation classes (I call him the Teacher in the thread).

I don't know why she invited him. She told us that she was strongly against people who practiced meditation, NLP, and the like. She had had a negative experience with some of them before, but I don't know the details. Nevertheless she said that we would have meditation classes, and one day Yury Lobanov entered the room. When I saw him I immediately thought that he would do interesting things and would give us interesting info. Because he looked like a person who really had a Knowledge, had his own Experience about the things he spoke to us. I also felt that Anna didn't like him: she never visited his lessons, never talked to him, and never asked us about our meditation progress. She introduced him to us very briefly, - and left the room.

The time went on, we studied plenty of very interesting things at the College lessons: how to make and interpret horoscopes, different approaches to astrology, Kazantzev's method of the horoscopes analysis which included not only the main stars, but Black and White Moons, Prozerpina, Heron, distant stars, and Sabian Calender points. We studied Numerology, and Numerology Horoscopes, Mundane Horoscopes (don't know the proper word in English), Dynamic Horoscopes, Methods of Precognition like Solar, Lunar methods, Transits, Progressions, the method based on Jupiter Cycle, etc., Palm Reading, Face Reading, Anna also invited hypnotizers, psychic readers, shamanic people , and others. She was a bright and talanted lady, beatiful like an Egyptian Queen, and full of energy and enthusiasm.

As for the Meditation Classes they were very special. At the very first lesson Lobanov told us that we would be taught the Sign Meditation, and he showed us those Signs - intricately interwoven lines which had the titles like 'The Sign of God's Love', 'The Sign of Spirit', etc., and he said that there were several levels of meditation: the 1st,the 2nd, which is deeper, the 3d, much deeper, the level of Spirit, the level of Extra-Spirit, then Extra-Extra-Spirit level, etc. When I started meditating first I felt a ray with a warm healing energy from Lobanov, then I felt a Magnet over my head. I wrote about it in this thread.

Our College lessons didn't last long, - only a year. Then people stopped paying money as it was the hard time in Russia. Those who payed were very few, and it was not enough. But meditation lessons continued. They were free. Lobanov was allowed to rent a hall in the library for free, and we came there once per a week.

It was the time when the Teacher introduced me to Michail Gofman.
I already wrote in the thread what had happened, what questions I had asked him before that, and why and how I had been isolated from the people in the Meditation Club. About Lobanov's status as well.

During my last year in Russia I tried to ask Anna Kiryanova for help. She had become a famous psychic by that time, she also knew many other psychics, and it was her College where I got acquainted with the Teacher. I called her several times, but her secretary didn't want to connect me with her. He said: "I am here to cut any connections of Anna to Lobanov, Gofman, and the like, so that she were able to do what she was doing". He didn't want to listen to me and to my story, just stopped talking by phone. I was dissapointed very much and felt betrayed. She knew something about Lobanov and the company, (some negative information? she said she disliked meditators). But she invited him. Or maybe she was made invite him?

[Nimue]

Originally Posted by Irisha

It was the time when the Teacher introduced me to Michail Gofman.

Waitasec, you just said his name??? I mean, even if it's a fake name, it's a nice change from "MrG who-must-not-be-named".


The experience of being in that school sounds pretty interesting!
As for mrs Anna, it doesn't sound like she was too approving of him joining, and judging by your experiences and the info that she had negative experiences she was probably made to do this. I mean, why was only Lobanov allowed to rent a room for free? Perhaps she didn't want to see you because there was nothing she could tell you or do for you and felt guilty. Maybe she was even trying to keep an eye on him but couldn't prevent your case. Who knows. The background of it all stinks of suspisciousness, if you ask me.

What's important is that now things are so much better for you!

[Irisha]

Originally Posted by Nimue

Waitasec, you just said his name??? I mean, even if it's a fake name, it's a nice change from "MrG who-must-not-be-named".


The experience of being in that school sounds pretty interesting!
As for mrs Anna, it doesn't sound like she was too approving of him joining, and judging by your experiences and the info that she had negative experiences she was probably made to do this. I mean, why was only Lobanov allowed to rent a room for free? Perhaps she didn't want to see you because there was nothing she could tell you or do for you and felt guilty. Maybe she was even trying to keep an eye on him but couldn't prevent your case. Who knows. The background of it all stinks of suspisciousness, if you ask me.

What's important is that now things are so much better for you!

It's his real name, I said it a week, or two weeks ago, after MasterRishi had told me that the site rules didn't prohibit to give names.

Lobanov rented a room by his own initiative, after the College had been closed. I think he used the College to get more people involved in the Meditation Club. He tried to organize this Club several times, as I know, but he failed many times. He made mistakes: told people that he was able to watch them on the distance, (actually it was not him, but Gofman who was helping him), people got scared, and left. (My mother's friend happened to go to his Meditation group, and was one of those who left it). At the time when he conducted meditations in our group he had changed his strategy, never told us about these abilities of secret spying people. I hadn't known about my mother's friend experience at that time yet. But I knew about the ability of meditators to drain energy from the members of their Clubs, and when I started asking questions, Lobanov introduced me to Gofman (to make me get interested in this person,and in the Channel he was able to make to me), in order to control me, to manipulate my will with hypnotic suggestion and the telepathic cord. Thus, he had isolated me from the other people who attended his meditations. He had done it to save his Meditation group which later was joined by the people from the other groups of his, - and this is how the Meditation Club was started.

It was actually Gofman's Club. Gofman needed Lobanov only as the organizer and meditations conductor. The more people - the better. Nobody knew what was going on. People didn't understand why they wanted to go there so much. Gofman can do hypnosis on many people, can make them like zombi. He gives them energy which makes them feel fine - much finer than without the Club. And they rush to the Club as if it had been magnetized. Lobanov is also Gofman's puppet. He has the same telepathy Channel as I, - why do I know about that? Because when I was at the meeting with Gofman and Lobanov (this meeting was called by Gofman 'Kundalini Meditation') he said about Lobanov's status, about the Channel L. had from him. Lobanov was sitting and listening.

As for Mrs. Anna I only have some info that MG told me on the Channel. Now I don't trust this info, he has lied so many times. However, the info is like this: She could also have had the Channel, and she wanted. But he decided to punish her for something, and gave the Channel to me. At that time I wanted it soooo much. Instead of giving her the Channel with this telepathy link he has given her another one, helping her to develop abilities in psychic readings, but he limited them . She can only do psychic readings concerning family relations. When I called her 10 years later her secretary told me exactly these words: Anna does psychic readings only about Love, Marriage and Family relations. But still I hoped that she could help me because she had many contacts with other psychics. When I called I just said that I had studied at the Occult College, attended Lobanov's meditations, and had problems because of that. Her secretary immediately stopped talking to me, even didn't allow me to explain what had happened. When I said 'Gofman' he became furious. As I got it he and Ann hated MG, and tried to do everything to avoid even mentioning his name.

[Irisha]

I want to add something.
I don't know why but Gofman is glad that I've published this info right now.
I don't like it. He is against my sharing information about him. If he likes it, it means he hopes I will have some negative outcome from it.
OK. I will be sharing everything he is doing, predicting, saying, - right at the moment he is doing it (if the computer is available).
Though he is like at some distance, still he goes on with his regular stuff, - but not with the same bright and vivid colours as it has been before.

[Nimue]

I thought I had read all your posts O_o How did I miss the revealing part???

Well, if I were you and really wanted to contact Anna, I would arrange a "reading meeting" with her secretary, maybe under another name, and speak to her there. Of course, I guess that now you may not want to speak her at all. From the sound of it, she may have been the only person who could be actually benefited from the channel, since these things are her life-or so MG wants us to believe. Or maybe he's just statisfied you said to the world how well his beloved Meditation Club worked and that someone relatively well-known strived to get in his channel. I would be happy if I were him. Maybe he's not planning something, just enjoying his "work" being described this way, it makes him sound like an evil overlord with a zombie army .

Btw did you do the teal flame thing?

[Irisha]

Originally Posted by Nimue

Btw did you do the teal flame thing?

Yes, I did. But the visualization is not enough. It's like doing healing to somebody when a person actually doesn't have the abilities to heal. The person can try, can follow all the instructions in the most precise way - but nothing happens. Because doing healing, or doing telepathy, or doing other paranormal things can take effect only if a person produces some special etheric substance. Few people have these emanations, and it's like to be born like this. For ex., if a person is very tall, - nothing will make them short, or vice versa. Try to make a very tall person be a very short one. How would you do that? Or a person is born with Down syndrome, cannot learn arythmetic. How would you teach them higher math? Some are born beautiful like models, some are born, for ex., without hands. When they say that it's possible to develop these paranormal abilities it's the same as promising a person without hands or legs that they will grow.
For me fighting with Gofman using teal flame, or mirrow screen, or praying is the same as fighting radiation with a stick.

[MysteryX]

Anyone has the same potential power within them. You're the one who sets your own limits as to what you believe you can do.

Mr. G may be stronger, but you have a strong advantage of psychically fighting in your own reality. Working within your own boundaries gives you a lot of strength (as opposed to trying to work on someone else's energy)

Maybe Mr. G is happy for you disclosing information about him because the more people precisely think about him, the more they connect to his energy and the it gives him an opportunity to find a good fish?

Everybody who has tried the teal flame so far saw great results. There is no reason it wouldn't work for you, unless you don't allow yourself to do it.

I don't know your financial situation, but working privately with me would help you a LOT.

Here's another way to meet her secretary: dream about being with her around a table. What happens in the dreams are is more real than it appears. If you have enough awareness for telepathy, you can meet with her psychically or with her spirit guides.

[bluestar]

Nausea and also headaches can be caused by the Astral body being drawn ever-so-slightly out of alignment with the physical.
During normal everyday consciousness, the Astral knits tightly to the physical body, it slips slightly out when we sleep, but we don't feel bad then because we don't have a "dual" situation going on.
It's when we are fully conscious and have the Astral drawn slightly out that the sense of balance in the inner ear goes awry. It's a bit like seasickness.
I know from personal experience that this can be done by another person who has the capabilities to draw the Astral out. (or towards them and their magnetism)

Now I can't come up with a perfect answer to stop Mr G doing this, but all I can do is say if there is a method you can "lock in" the Astral body during physical consciousness, and prevent it being drawn out, these symptoms would go away.

[Irisha]

Originally Posted by MysteryX

Anyone has the same potential power within them. You're the one who sets your own limits as to what you believe you can do.

Potential power - yes, I agree. But to make it real is not so easy. Otherwise we all would have been magicians doing all that we want.
I know that you want to help me, and this advice raises my vibrations, and I appreciate it so much! All kinds of the psychotherapy help really make things different.

I have no doubt that the teal flame works. It just doesn't work so well against MG who is like a part of my work with the teal flame, because when I think about the teal flame MG is 'thinking' about it together with me, - this is how his Channel works. I have always had this 'dual' thinking since the Channel was started. Its not always his direct participating in this 'dual' thinking - sometimes it maybe done on the basis of the hypnotic suggestion, but then I have to work with the teal flame being under the hypnotic suggestion, and I have no idea how this hypnotic suggestion programs my subconscious mind, - can the teal flame help in this case?
Yes, I think I will ask for a shamanic help if I earn money. I could afford psychics (which were not able to help) in Russia where I had a well-paid job, but now I am an immigrant with nothing. That's OK, I like it here without money much more than in Russia with money, but now I can only share my story.
As for MG he is strongly against it. When I started posting on this site he was punishing me for that with severe pains during 6 weeks! And nausea and vomiting several times per night (with days-off on Thursdays , and breaks at daytime - so, it was not a desease, right?)
If he is happy about my publishing now - I don't know why. In any case what is good for him may be bad for me. He likes to be playing with me like that.

[Irisha]

Originally Posted by bluestar

Nausea and also headaches can be caused by the Astral body being drawn ever-so-slightly out of alignment with the physical.
During normal everyday consciousness, the Astral knits tightly to the physical body, it slips slightly out when we sleep, but we don't feel bad then because we don't have a "dual" situation going on.
It's when we are fully conscious and have the Astral drawn slightly out that the sense of balance in the inner ear goes awry. It's a bit like seasickness.
I know from personal experience that this can be done by another person who has the capabilities to draw the Astral out. (or towards them and their magnetism)

Now I can't come up with a perfect answer to stop Mr G doing this, but all I can do is say if there is a method you can "lock in" the Astral body during physical consciousness, and prevent it being drawn out, these symptoms would go away.

Oh yes, it's possible!
I don't know HOW he is doing that, but it's possible that he draws out, or somehow shifts the astral body! Sometimes when he was making those awful pains I was feeling my head started moving as if there was an invisible thread attached to it which he was pulling and pushing. It's like to be a real puppet, he, he!..

[Irisha]

Originally Posted by MysteryX

He created an additional implant on the lower back of your head on the area controlling your subconscious mind and he knew what he was doing. .

Yes, that's true.
I started feeling it when the Channel was started, and this implant was so strong that my head began to be bent backward! It looked strange, I remember my mother noticed that, and asked me what had happened. I was almost always with my head bent back as if something was pulling it back. Then I had to make efforts to keep my head straight. It was not only a feeling of some pulling, but it was also a feeling of a magnet over there.

The same feeling, but above my head I had had before, when I started attending Lobanov's meditations.At the very first meditation after L. had explained how to work with the Sign, I closed my eyes, and then, some time later I felt a warm ray from the Teacher! The ray touched my forhead first, then started moving, checking my chakras. I felt so much better immediately! Because I was having a cold on that day, and didn't feel good. The ray had fixed my cold. I felt full of energy, headache stopped, and it was absolutely wonderful to have the feeling I was having. Then the ray had moved above my head, and I felt the Magnet for the first time!..

The feeling of the Magnet above my head was like the feeling of the connection with the God, or the Universe, or some Higher Being. - I didn't know what it was, but it was something I had never experienced before. This Magnet was of the diameter of a big tree, and it was long, and I couldn't see where it ended. It was changing all the time , - in its intensity, its 'colours', (because it had like different colours, but not the regular ones. They were, I think, astral colours, or spiritual colours), there was some kind of movement inside it, and this movement of colours seemed to be accompanied with changing of different sounds which were mute at the same time!.. Did it convey any information with it? I don't know. It was indifferent.

This is how the Magnet was started at the first meditation. Then, every time we had our Meditation class I had this Magnet over my head. What was it? I don't know. I could ask the Teacher, but I had the feeling that I shouldn't. As if with the Magnet I received information not to tell anybody about it. It had been lasting like this, I think, during a month or two.

Then I was given the Magnet without meditation.
I was in the train, going to the countryside. I was reading a book. I remember it was called "The Centre of a Cyclone", (I don't remember who the author is). Suddenly I felt the Magnet started.I stopped reading and was watching it. I thought it might be stopped, but it wasn't. It didn't stop later, when I came home, didn't stop the next day. Since that time I had always had it, even when I woke up at night.
It was the same like at the first meditation. No end. With different colours. Always changing. Singing its mute songs. And always indifferent.

[Irisha]

I didn't know what that Magnet was. I thought it had started due to the Sign Meditations, and as they were about God and Spiritual things, I thought the Magnet was making me connected with God, and the Universe.
Sure, I was very, very happy about having this Magnet.
It was like a treasure I was supposed to take care of. So, I kept silence about it, not to destroy it. (As I had received information that if I told somebody about it, it might disappear). I thought that if I didn't know how to use it at that time, I would certainly learn it later when the time had come.
The time was passing by, but nothing had changed.

Only several times, maybe only three times, I tried to use this treasure to show other people what Sign Meditations were about.
At our lessons we were having Sign Meditations using Dmitry Maxin's book "The Love and The Heart of the Infinity". There were drawings with many Signs which were received by Maxin at his channeling sessions. When reading the book, and meditating using the Signs I could always feel the Signs as if they were like vivid and changing all the time pictures (Maybe it was because I was excited very much due to the Magnet I had).
When I went to Moscow to visit my friends I had studied with before at the University I took the book with me. I told them about the College, Lobanov's meditations, and my meeting with Gofman (by that time I had already got acquainted with him).
I invited them to have a sign meditation together. When we started, I felt the Magnet started working in a very unusual way, it was like a storm as compared to its regular way. I felt it was somehow connected to the two of three girls I was having the meditation with. When we were finished the girls said that it had been really awesome. They looked like people who really had had some new experience in their life. They asked me to send them the book by Dm.Maxin as those Signs were really something that was worth experimenting with because of the effect it provided.

I knew that that result was due to the Magnet which had been connected to them during the meditation.

I am writing about it in this thread because I promised to tell you everything I know about MG, and this text is a part of it. As I don't have much time I am not able to post more today, and have to do it in the way I can.

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Your whole story serves as a good lesson to people wanting to play around with spirituality and energy without understanding it. If you don't know what you're doing, you can get hurt, either by accident or by parasitic people feeding off of you.

Originally Posted by Irisha

I didn't know what that Magnet was. I thought it had started due to the Sign Meditations, and as they were about God and Spiritual things, I thought the Magnet was making me connected with God, and the Universe.
Sure, I was very, very happy about having this Magnet.
It was like a treasure I was supposed to take care of. So, I kept silence about it, not to destroy it. (As I had received information that if I told somebody about it, it might disappear). I thought that if I didn't know how to use it at that time, I would certainly learn it later when the time had come.
The time was passing by, but nothing had changed.

Only several times, maybe only three times, I tried to use this treasure to show other people what Sign Meditations were about.
At our lessons we were having Sign Meditations using Dmitry Maxin's book "The Love and The Heart of the Infinity". There were drawings with many Signs which were received by Maxin at his channeling sessions. When reading the book, and meditating using the Signs I could always feel the Signs as if they were like vivid and changing all the time pictures (Maybe it was because I was excited very much due to the Magnet I had).
When I went to Moscow to visit my friends I had studied with before at the University I took the book with me. I told them about the College, Lobanov's meditations, and my meeting with Gofman (by that time I had already got acquainted with him).
I invited them to have a sign meditation together. When we started, I felt the Magnet started working in a very unusual way, it was like a storm as compared to its regular way. I felt it was somehow connected to the two of three girls I was having the meditation with. When we were finished the girls said that it had been really awesome. They looked like people who really had had some new experience in their life. They asked me to send them the book by Dm.Maxin as those Signs were really something that was worth experimenting with because of the effect it provided.

I knew that that result was due to the Magnet which had been connected to them during the meditation.

I am writing about it in this thread because I promised to tell you everything I know about MG, and this text is a part of it. As I don't have much time I am not able to post more today, and have to do it in the way I can.