Abuse in Telepathy Channel

[Merrick1]

Originally Posted by Jai

The world is real Merrick but our comprehension of the world is influenced by our perception and bounded rationality. We all see ourselves different to how each of our friends see us and so on. Illusion suggests that it is all a figment of our imagination. It isn't. It is our perception of reality. Nothing is as it seems!

I agree, Jai. What I was trying to say is that it truly requires lots and lots of work to see things as they really are. The Buddha and other great beings gave us the tools and millions have been following them, striving to see the truth. And everyone who has ever tried it knows how difficult it is, even though in essence it is very simple.

So, what I disagree with is this:

Originally Posted by Jai

... - it's not a big deal - you can fix it!

Everything we experience in life is to teach us. To teach us what unconditional Love is. To teach us to live It, to be It. And since we often fail in this learning, we have to repeatedly go through the same lessons again and again, only in different backdrops, in different costumes. And sometimes a test comes for us to prove, whether we have really understood.

Mr "G" is giving Irisha a tremendous opportunity to learn about Love through his actions. We have to encounter evil on our spiritual journey. How could we otherwise understand what Love is? But I don't want to play down her suffering. I know how difficult it is to see the Light when we are in such a difficult situation. But it is the only way to liberation. When we let the Darkness devour us, when we let it take away our trust in goodness and Justice, then we are doomed. The only hope I see for Irisha is that she turns to God with all her heart and surrenders to Him. That she opens her heart to Love and tries to see the Divinity in even the most evil of men. This is not to say that she should love the person but she should love his Divinity. When we do that, our compassion grows and then we can't really hate anybody. Because we realize that we all are on the same boat, so to speak, moving in the same direction, even though we may not be aware of it at this stage as yet. We may see the ignorance of a wicked person and yet we may look on them with understanding. Why, we have been there too. Only we usually don't remember it any more. And who knows? We may fall back there again, for one reason or another. So, who are we to judge? It is all about learning. The only thing we can do is to strive to anchor ourselves firmly in the Light. To radiate Light, to radiate Love. And this comes through awareness and a firm decision. So, this is my advice to Irisha.

Merrick

[Irisha]

I don't know what is it, but I think some of you, guys, is doing something against him. Some psychic influence!! The pain again has been stopped!! I haven't stopped writting about him, but I don't feel the pain!
You know I will never stop saying THANK YOU and GOD BLESS YOU.
Tell me, please, who you are who is doing that. I know it could not have stopped by itself without your help. You haven't met neither me, nor him in real circumstances, - and you have done it!
It's the greatest miracle I've ever experienced. Much greater than all miracles taken together MrG has shown me.
Somebody has pm'ed me with a question in which newspaper I have read it - it's about the thread I guess, that it is like a newspaper. Sorry about that if it is like a dull newspaper. Yes, my aim is to say what I know about MrG, to inform about the danger to be involved in a situation I am in. I can do it only in this way. If it's of no interest, I think you can choose not to read it. Maybe my last posts were without anything new, without any new facts about MrG - first I need to look through my posts again to see what I've already written about to avoid repeating the things. Actually I've just started telling my story because I've just said about Kundalini meditation (as he called it), and about some very few events which followed it. Then there were 18 years of various events he took part in - all on the Channel - and all of these events teach lessons about how stupid it was to believe in him (and I believed!..like an idiot), and now I am trying to analyse how it happened to me, and what methods he has used.

[bluestar]

You know there's this old saying
"A trouble shared is a trouble halved"
This thread is very interesting and lively. Not boring at all. It makes us all think.

[Irisha]

Glad to know about that.
Now about a new nasty thing MrG is doing to me. As he was not able to silence me with pain, he has almost stopped doing it, but he started making me problems in a different way - with my jobs. I have several jobs not to remain without money if I lose one (or more) of them. Now I started having the SAME problems at ALL my jobs (which are not connected, and belong to absolutely different fields). I hope I'll manage to fix them, but I don't like his being so inventive. The thing is that when I come to work people (my bosses) start feeling very bad: nausea, symptoms of poisoning, and a bad mood. Other people are ok. It has repeated several times. I have 6 jobs, and this has happened at all of them during this week. One person said she had never felt so bad before. I immediately remembered HOW BAD he could make me feel - as I have never felt before. I am afraid if it goes on like this they'll start developing a negative attitude towards me subconsciously. Though there is no my fault. Maybe that's just a coincidence, and I hope it really is. But I know how nasty he can be, especially if I notice it, and don't share. If I share he like looses some power, and sometimes bad things don't happen. But if it doesn't help, if things go on being the same, - then what should I do? Should I stop leaving my house? Should I stop writing about him (this is his aim), and let him win? Should I die if other people suffer because of my presence (not because of me, but because of his influence through me)? He is VERY clever. He has found the way to make me have some unresolvable issue.
My only hope is that it's a coincidence, or paranoia, or he won't be able to proceed with it because I have made it public ( it has already happened like this before: I spoke to smbd who knew about my problem about his bad merits - then things didn't go wrong. If I didn't - they happened). I hope there won't be any other negative consequences, and his power decays. A nasty piece of work - this is who he is.

[bluestar]

No Irisha, I do not believe you should shut yourself away!
Are you absolutely sure there isn't another -more mundane cause for all this? Like a stomach virus going around? Or something? Those viruses can be very very nasty!

[Irisha]

I don't know. People think it's a virus, I feel it's him. Why only those people which I depend on with my job feel bad?

[insanezenmistress]

Originally Posted by Irisha

I don't know. People think it's a virus, I feel it's him. Why only those people which I depend on with my job feel bad?

i feel very strongly that i should share alittle with you. You seem like your are going thru something very simular to my story. I had a few bad guru-type and the psychic controlls where alot like yours.

my concentration at the moment is distracted, so i wont go into dramatic details. Suffice it to say that it was hell in my head for a few years. But something changed and thats the part i wanted to share.

*oh my farkin lord you would not BELIEVE the hic ups and distractions i am encountering just to get this message typed. so here i tread quietly.*

go Watch the movie Labyrenth with that incredible hunk David Bowie.

J

[Nimue]

6 jobs??? I'd have bad mood every day if I were you (and would probably faint)! Except if you mean something like 6 clients, instead of 6 totally diffrent jobs...

Anyway, don't give up!!! It's beautiful to see the progress you've done so far, and you have shown you have the ability to fight for yourself and gain ground
Keep it up!!!

[778898]

is it Improbably! A trap, the help offer, and a way to come into contact! CYBORG insane !

[insanezenmistress]

Originally Posted by 778898

is it Improbably! A trap, the help offer, and a way to come into contact! CYBORG insane !

what should i do then?....*nibbles finger nails*....

[Nimue]

Improbably, how did things change? Is the guy still there and distracts you?

[insanezenmistress]

nope because of the realisation that he had no power over me except what i gave him.
it is like how Sarah discovered the same in Labyrenth.

[bluestar]

Originally Posted by Irisha

I don't know. People think it's a virus, I feel it's him. Why only those people which I depend on with my job feel bad?

Irisha....if we look at it with just pure logic, then ok the people you work with are getting sick, those are the people you see, and work with. How do you know that the people who work a block away, or in the next town, or in the next building...aren't getting similar? (well some of them anyway) You see what I mean? If there's a virus going round, you would only know about the people you come into contact with, you wouldn't know about the others who might also be getting sick??

[Nimue]

Yes,that too...
One thing you could do is to counter his negative effect via doing as much positive/pleasant moves towards your co-workers as possible... It's only them feeling bad this time, not you?

[778898]

Originally Posted by insanezenmistress

what should i do then?....*nibbles finger nails*....

Anything to make! Relax and whenever possible - if he with you speaks resist to it, do not do that that he speaks!

[arkimote06]

i suggest emotional freedom therapy by Gary Craig and a series of body cleanses...traveling also will help

[Irisha]

Hi,
yes, I have 6 different jobs, but this is not bad, because every day I have just one of them. The idea is if I loose one job I still keep others. I sell pictures, give lessons of Russian once a week, look for clients for a company, do typing for a person, etc. I feel good. I'll see if something changes next week. I hope everybody will be ok. If it is he who is doing that I hope he won't be able to make things worse. All people felt bad this week, only the Korean I teach Russian to on Saturdays was ok, but in a bad mood, not as he usually is ( his daughter got ill, - and I have a marketing business with her!) .The lady I help about the house said she had never felt like that before: very strong nausea without any reason (it's like it has been with me because of MrG recently! And he was doing it to me for so long! Nothing helps when HE is doing that.)

[Nimue]

I see... they all sound like quite an interesting job choice, after all
But G is still a problem... Maybe you have to find a way to fight his overall behaviour, after all
He is strong, so you need to either become stronger too or to find helpers... Maybe you are able to find help where you couldn't before, now.
Or even work it out as the martial artists do: if only you could find a way to use his own power to his disadvantage...Hmm...

[Moonshine]

Originally Posted by elucidate

Pretty much.

It's really just that we've created such a noisy society that bombards us constantly with information and advertisements, all distracting us from looking within, and where insensitivity and desensitizing is more valued than being sensitive is, which prevents most from experiencing this, or even being open to it. It also requires getting very quiet, which most people don't make enough space or time in their lives to do. Silence is golden, but it's treated like the enemy!

Ahh, so that's why back when humankind didnt have said distractions& bombardments from said noisey soiciety people were commonly telepathic and this was routinely known. The logic is so clear.....

Originally Posted by Irisha

I don't know what is it, but I think some of you, guys, is doing something against him. Some psychic influence!! The pain again has been stopped!! I haven't stopped writting about him, but I don't feel the pain!
You know I will never stop saying THANK YOU and GOD BLESS YOU.
Tell me, please, who you are who is doing that. I know it could not have stopped by itself without your help. You haven't met neither me, nor him in real circumstances, - and you have done it!
It's the greatest miracle I've ever experienced

The 'miracle' worker is you Irisha! This is consistent with MrG's supposed 'telepathic' effects upon you being a delusional creation of your mind. You have found something in the dialogues here that have altered your mind in that respect, such is the power of connecting with other minds via REAL means such as talking.

Finding personally relevant patterns/connections (such as your bosses feeling sick because of your link with MrG) where none REALLY exist is a common feature of paranoia. It involves errors of logic such as confirmation bias and clustering illusion. I am reminded of a woman (with paranoid schizophrenia) who was very disturbed by seeing a man on her regular bus journey wearing a hat and scarf, disturbed because the night before she had seen a film in which a main character had worn a hat and scarf. She felt that these two events were connected, via her, which supported her hypothesis that someone was watching her. Illogical interpretation supporting delusion.

(Just my humble opinion of the truth of the matter, of course.... just disregard if you don't want to know about that)

[ar81]

Originally Posted by Irisha

Those who are psychic themselves sometimes just don't want any competition when I share this information in public. I'd like to tell you everything about how Mr.G. did it with me, what was done and what is going on, - everything about this very extraordinary person who has abilities in telepathy, clairvoynce, hypnosis, psychokinesis. If you like to know about this person and about my experience of communicating with him in real life and on the Channel I can tell you a lot. This is my only method to fight against what he is doing to me violating my privacy by making this telepathy contact - if I start sharing I hope he won't like it and will stop it.

The more energy you use to fight this person, the more energy you give to his mental influence. Don't fight.

The idea of trying to see what you think reveals me that this guy must have a very miserable life, so the only exciting thing is to enter other people's minds. Or perhaps this is a very childish guy in a negative sense.

This guy is trying to play a drama triangle in a telepahic level.
The Drama Triangle: Persecutor, Victim and and Rescuer
Read this article, it will be very useful.

Gain some wisdom, since as you do, either this guy would be discouraged or he will gain wisdom and will be enlightened by you.

[Irisha]

Thank you for the article.
Actually I don't feel that I am a victim because even if I give much energy fighting him I don't think I give more energy to his mental influence. Vice versa! When we were in good relations I felt much more influence, and now, being rebellious against him, I can see that he has become weaker! He doesn't like my behaviour, and it's more difficult for him to go on teaching me, giving advice, - he is dissappointed in me, and doesn't want to help any more so much as before. And I like it - as I just want to get rid of him with all his miracles, advice, help, etc., - because I hate ALL that comes from him! His method is based on giving positive things in order to make a person his 'slave'.
As for punishment he uses a lot now , - it's not what I can be thought of as a victim.
Again, I'll repeat it: ALL I WANT IS TO MAKE PUBLIC HIS (AND OTHERS' WHO DO THE SAME) UNLAWFUL AND UNETHICAL METHODS OF MAKING THEMSELVES ENERGIZED, OF HAVING FUN, IN ORDER TO DEVELOP THEIR PSYCHIC ABILITIES EVEN MORE, IN ORDER TO REACH OTHER AIMS (what are these aims? I even don't want to talk about that), - AND [COLOR="black"]USING[COLOR="black"] PEOPLE FOR THESE AIMS.
Yes, he told me many times that he feels more power when he is in a good mood, when things go as he wants.
If I used the word 'victim' before, it's NOT because I feel like a victim. I can say that he is playing with me like a cat with a mouse, - yes, it's just because I liked it as a figure of speech.
If I express my gratitude to those who support me here by saying to them that they've made a miracle, - I don't think it's worth looking for paranoia or schizophrenia in it either. (Maybe I was too exclamatory? - Well, I felt euphoria because I didn't feel pain).
You can call me with any word you like, - but if I DON'T FEEL that it's about me, - it matters nothing to me. Call me a schizophrenic, a paranoid person , - ok. But I'd better say what I want to say if it helps to destroy him, and his plans about me. Even if people start thinking about me as a paranoic.
But , please, don't remind me, or others, that schizophrenics don't understand that they are schizophrenics, and the stuff like that.
First prove it with doctors that I am schizophrenic, find other symptoms, not only some of my words in the thread.
For me it's paranoia to look for paranoia in a person who writes in the thread, judging them by what they've written - how can you know - maybe I've written everything about the case, maybe just a little bit, almost nothing. (it takes time, btw! to write about everything, to be logical, etc.)
I know MrG. I know how he is able to HEAL people through me (though he has never seen them in the real life). In the SAME WAY, using the same methods he can MAKE HARM. And if making harm to others helps him make harm to me, - he will do it, I have no doubt about that. And I've shared these ideas (though I knew that some people would be looking for paranoia), just because I also have MY methods to fight against him.
I don't think that MrG has a miserable life. Entering other people's minds and being able to influence them, being able to make them his puppets, - isn't that what many people in power (and not only them!) DREAM of, would like to be able to develop to the highest degree in themselves , - and that is what they actually do, - I believe you know about that.
MrG enjoys his life using his abilities. He doesn't need any other power. He doesn't have to be defending himself against enemies, or those who envy that he has his abilities, or those who are afraid of him and would like to get rid of him. Nobody knows. He is clever enough not to say anybody WHAT he can do.

[Moonshine]

>>>You can call me with any word you like, - but if I DON'T FEEL that it's about me, - it matters nothing to me. Call me a schizophrenic, a paranoid person , - ok. But I'd better say what I want to say if it helps to destroy him, and his plans about me. Even if people start thinking about me as a paranoic.

Absolutely right. You should say and talk freely. I am not against you or against that. Mine is just an opinion put into the mix, and one shouldn't be harmed by hearing opinions. They can be disregarded if they do not ring true. My words are not spoken with mal intent, but out of concern. I wrote something in the thread a few weeks ago. Because I found it very strange and a bit disturbing how people were colluding in what (in my OPINION) seemed to me like delusion, delusion that was very disturbing to you, and I felt concerned by that. I would like to see you go to a doctor and talk with a professional who could help you expose the Mr.G in your mind for what it is. But there is undeniably other value in talking here (this forum) too, a spiritual value that comes from people connecting with you and empathizing, helping you gain confidence as well perhaps.

Now, it might be that I am the one who is deluded about all this (telepathy channel manipulting your life) and I should go see a doctor. But the differences are that if this is a delusion of mine it does not impact upon my life badly, does not dominate and cause me to seek support for it, and I am open to other explanations and evidence.

You say I can only make judgements based upon your words here, and again you are absolutely right, that is the drawback of forums, making pictures only from written words, and it is the same for the others who read and contribute to the thread -- they too can only know a picture of you from your written words.

I came back to the thread yesterday and it just struck me once again how consistent the description of your experience is with delusional creation. That you feel better from the dialogues here is to my mind evidence for the power of dialogues to change minds, the power of YOUR mind connecting with other minds via these written words -- that's a very simple, down to earth explanation, and a beautiful one!, and that is the opinion I have shared, that's all.

I don't attach any perjorative stigma to 'paranoid', it is just a description for understanding the situation of a particular confusion. We all are confused, in some way or another, that's normal isn't it?! Same with 'shizohphrenic' (which I used in relation to my recollection not you), I don't attach a perjorative to that, it is just a crude diagnostic label, but one which has uses to clinicians in terms of treatments.

>>>I know how he is able to HEAL people through me
Perhaps it is YOU who are the healer Irisha.
I will say no more unless invited to. I wish you good health and peace.

[778898]

crazy =)))

[Nimue]

Originally Posted by 778898

crazy =)))

Totally!

I do believe you are the miracle worker too, Irisha. You've grown since the thread started and that may have easily been just enough for the change!

Demon has stopped bugging me about my bf-I made it clear that I wouldn't let him have it his own way and/or make me feel miserable. I have to admit that confronting him every so and then can be a good thing, it really "wakes up" my inner strength. (Okay. My guides helped me to win this time. A little. )

[bluestar]

Reputable psychics and Mediums hear voices
People go out of body into the next dimension.....
Some people experience poltergeist phenomena.....
Are they paranoid schizophrenics too....?

All experiences which are somewhat unbelievable when viewed from a mundane/3 dimensional standpoint...are not all experiences which indicate mental or emotional illness.

Although I agree that continual pressures from negative connections, or continual stress situations could cause some symptoms of mental illness, such as depression, confusion, even breakdown

[Mud]

Originally Posted by Nimue

Totally!

I do believe you are the miracle worker too, Irisha. You've grown since the thread started and that may have easily been just enough for the change!

)

I also agree with this. I think she is responsible for the good things and does not give herself credit. I also agree with the person who says until she is willing to give up the good he does the bad will stay.

This next statement is only meant as an observation not a judgment or insult in anyway, but many suggestions ( not all) are immediately rejected and a lot of talk about why there is no way it will possibly work. I truly believe with all my heart, whether you believe it will or believe it won't, you are right. Perhaps if you truly believe nothing will work then the only thing left is radical acceptance.

I did read that you feel the good energy here is helping and I am glad for that. I send my good energy your way too.

[Fred Tracy]

Originally Posted by Silenced140

Theres nothing the good old Jeffery Dahmer method can't fix. I would say it's probably pretty hard to do telepathy with acid in your skull..

LOL. Nice.

[778898]

Irisha Tell to yours G that it Gandon! Give best regards from Russia from Artema. We are tormented by the telepathic car!

[Irisha]

Moonshine,
I'd like to be a miracle worker, or a healer, but I don't have these abilities. I've tried, but never managed to do anything like a healing (miracle as well :-)) Or it was something with just little result, nothing important. When those healings of other people through me made by MrG took place there were VERY special effects! And absolutely different feelings! And those feelings (or sensations) were the same (or of the same type) as those which were from MrG on other occasions! If you had this experience you 'd never take those manifestations of his for something else, for something that was due to your ability to have them for this or that reason. (In your opinion these reasons are limited to the mental disorder). But I have to say it again: if you've never experienced anything like that and are inclined to be sceptical and always sceptical (just because you belong to this type of people), - then nothing will convince you that it's possible to be involved in the events which you don't believe in. OK. If you don't believe it - don't believe! Maybe it'll happen to you some time - then you will believe.(I hope - never. Nothing good . God save you from that. ).

It struck me that you mentioned the 'pejorative stigma' which can be used about a paranoic or a schizophrenic. (Yes, I also used these words only as a diagnosis.) But if you understand that there may be connotations like that, - please, don't tell me about that . I feel vulnerable to it. Believe me, I've heard it many times, most people out of this forum don't believe me, and I came to this forum because here people didn't label me like that. And I appreciate it, and am very thankful to them that they don't give labels, but try to understand even if it's PARAnormal.
Yes, it's really very paranormal and difficult to believe in. I accept it. But it HAS HAPPENED.
The doctors you send me to also know about cases like mine. And say that there can be no help. Send me back to MrG. Only the hypnotist who has done it can cancel it (and sometimes cannot . If it was made to this effect).

I appreciate VERY MUCH the support of everybody who has given it to me.
But I don't know why you again try to tell me what I came here for (in your opinion - for support). But I have written with CAPITAL LETTERS several times already. Once more: MY ONLY AIM TO BE HERE IS TO GIVE INFORMATION. ABOUT UNETHICAL BEHAVIOUR AND UNLAWFUL METHODS OF A PSYCHIC MR.G. WHO IS NOT THE ONLY ONE BEHAVING LIKE THAT. PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN PSYCHIC SHOULD BE AWARE OF THE DANGER TO BE IN A SITUATION SIMILAR TO MINE. (Those who are not interested as well, btw.)

My evidence is MY evidence. What other explanations can I be open to if MrG HIMSELF told me at our meeting in REAL life, (not in the Channel) that he WILL make this Channel to me. He showed me in REAL life that he HAS this ability and other psychic abilities. Then he HAS DONE what he promised.
The only possible additional explanation which I can accept is that there was hypnotic suggestion added. So, not to be permanently on the Channel he has made this suggestion about his permanent presence. But he HIMSELF takes part always when he thinks it's necessary. Of course, he might have a rest (at night, and at day time, when he wants). But I have no doubt about his DIRECT participation on the regular basis.

Love and peace.

[royster]

It is my hope that Mr. g's first name isn't "Kenny".


If it is, we're ALL doomed.