Nature spirits

[oasis]

Hi all, I'm quite interested in the idea of nature spirits: that is gnomes, faeries, elves and that type, the kind featured in fairy tales and books such as LOTR. It's quite hard to find a good source of info on the web, so what's is everyone's thoughts on such creatures? Do they exist and where? Were they perhaps visible to our ancestors, before we lost the "sight"?

I personally go along with the theory that they exist, just in a slightly different frequency dimension and thus most of us can't tune into to that frequency to observe them.

[rickrock]

Atm... My system of beliefs is very much tainted so its like an open house in there. After being psychic, run ins with entities, beings and such I see no reason why the heck not? Plus theyre so cool! So either they exist on another plane/ universe/ etc. or we just used quantum physics to create them with shear mind will and power or even that we are just blind to them, to me they are real.

[kitai]

Hi, I have a really firm belief that they are real and i also thought about them vibrating on a different level making them invisible to those without sight, weird we should think the same way.

There's a park near where i live and i swear some days i can almost see them, there are certian areas that feel magical and i can visulise them in my mind's eye, but they don't really look mich like the depictions i saw as a child.

For example, to me fairies aren't really mini humans with wings like tinkerbell, it's hard for me to explain but they are more insectal with physical traits that seem human, which i think is really weird since one of my spirit guides looks like the normal image of a fairy as depicted in a story and i can even see how her wings fold. But they also aren't all good by our definition as they have very different outlooks they are as wild as nature in both menicingness and kindness.

Most of the fantastical creatures i meet through meditation let me study them though we talk little as i can't seem to hear what they say to me, i have come across a pegasis several times when i couldn't 'float' high enough in a guided meditation, i kind of got stuck on a place we had been taken to and the recording was doing the whole imagine yourself difting and floating higer than you've ever been but i was completely stuck and he helped me by taking me up, until that point i had no idea how a pegisis was even possible given the weight for wings, i always hoped they were real but couldn't see how it worked until then (then again the bumblebee is said to be aerodynamically impossible too). I was trying some elemental work and met a water spirit too which i thought was incredible.

Foe a long time though i have thought that conditioning makes us forget how to truely see and be, i'm sure you have all see cheesey king fu movies with the wire work, i'm sure that was possible using energy until we started to believe it wasn't because of gravity. Science overcame belief, gave way to doubt and we lost so much.

[Tanemon]

There's a community in Scotland that was co-founded by a very small group of spiritually oriented people. All accounts relate that nature devas (angels) and nature spirits were part of the original perceptions - and guides or partners - of some of the founders.

The community is called Findhorn. It is sometimes referred to as "the Findhorn Garden". It's not too far from Inverness.

I visited there for three days in 2006.

The original group became famous in the mid 1960s because their vegetable and flower gardens were full of fantastically vibrant plants. For instance, cabbages reached up to 42 pounds in weight (whereas an average cabbage weighs maybe 4-8 pounds). Flowers were especially vivid. This was even though the basic soil at that spot was sand (the poorest quality basic soil.) The news of all this gradually spread, and more and more people began to be attracted. Books, magazine articles, and other media coverage soon followed. Sometimes if you find old spiritual-type magazines from 35 years ago, you then realize how incredibly famous the place was!

When I was there almost four years ago, there were 110 people living there. It's quite a place in numerous ways.

[Beyond Answers]

I have personally come in contact with several entities that were described to me as being a different species of soul energy. I'm not so much a visual person, but the fairies are small and twitchy or flighty. They like shiny things and gardens. I have come in contact with muses, which are also a different species of soul energy. They are amazingly beautiful and very large and flowing. That's it so far as for personal experience, but after what I've seen and experienced, there's no limit in my mind to what exists on the Other Side.

[rickrock]

Originally Posted by kitai

I was trying some elemental work and met a water spirit too which i thought was incredible.

Please tell me what you did, where you found this information, anything. I've tried but the closest I could find was Hermetics, which wasnt the type of element I was really looking for.

[elucidate]

Hi Oasis,

If you are interested in communing with the realm of faeries and other invisible beings, there is a whole process involved. The first step you have already taken, which is to remain open to the idea and it sounds like your sense of curiosity is alive as well, which is VERY helpful.

If you can take other steps that will open you even further, I feel confident that you will begin to recieve guidance in no time...and just know that these beings WANT to communicate with those humans who are willing to meet them half way.

I think it is also necessary to be very aware that the faeries are at war with humans currently, due to our mindless destruction of the planet...which is THEIR home as well as ours! You need to be aware that as long as you go into this with a pure heart and willingness to help care for the planet...they will see you as an ally and not an enemy! Otherwise, they will not consider you for a friend. YOu cannot fool them...they know what's in your heart, more than you do.

Watching clouds is a great way to start opening yourself up to your own inner tuition, and you can also start to pay attention to your heart area...as faeries can be reached when spoken to from the heart.

I have had communications with these awesome beings for quite a few years now...though, I admit, that the last few years I have been nurturing relations with the angelic realm...but they are VERY real...and maybe not what we think they look like. What we have imagined their form to be is something that I believe humans created to make it easier for us to fathom them. If we were to see their real forms I think we'd all be quite surprised. I personally have never seen them, though I have felt their presence and communicated with them many times.

Spend time in nature if you wish to communicate clearly with them, as this is where they are in their element, though you can still speak to them wherever you may be...they don't tend to like polluted areas that much though, so cities and busy streets may not be so full of them

Good luck on this journey...I'm sure it will hold for you many adventures and interesting insights.

Originally Posted by oasis

Hi all, I'm quite interested in the idea of nature spirits: that is gnomes, faeries, elves and that type, the kind featured in fairy tales and books such as LOTR. It's quite hard to find a good source of info on the web, so what's is everyone's thoughts on such creatures? Do they exist and where? Were they perhaps visible to our ancestors, before we lost the "sight"?

I personally go along with the theory that they exist, just in a slightly different frequency dimension and thus most of us can't tune into to that frequency to observe them.

[codenamesmiley]

I have Faeries in my yard. I never had luck with any plants...even fake ones, til I moved here. My neighbor that lived two doors down when Imoved in here, was a 5th generation celtic witch and she taught me about faeries. She had a faerie circle in her yard where they would dance and literally stomped a ring into the ground. I was so intrigued by them.

Well, she had to move and the yard grew desolate and the community riding mower came around and kept whacking down their little habitat, so I went over there one day to spare some Queen Anne's lace and out of the blue I felt a need to invite the faeries to come have safe haven in my yard. The very next spring, I had so many beautiful flowers showing up out of nowhere. I am sure the birds planted most of the seeds..but I give them about a tablespoon of crown royal every solstice, in a little seashell tucked into the hallow of the roots of the cottonwood tree out back, and thank them for trusting me and assisting me.

If you want to meet faeries...approach with utmost gratitude and in with perfect love and perfect trust.

If a faerie or gnome, witnesses you be mean spirited toward any plant or animal, they will wreak havoc on you. It is best to apologize and offer a gift, once you realize what it is, that is happening. They are not to be feared. They are Earth beings, but they are not Evil unless you disrespect Earth and her creatures. Don't spank a dog or a child in front of one, either. They are enraged with abuse of innocence!

If they feel that you resonate with their spirits, you will see them. Like Elucidate said, They cannot be fooled.

Blessings and Love to you,
Rebecca

[kitai]

Originally Posted by rickrock

Please tell me what you did, where you found this information, anything. I've tried but the closest I could find was Hermetics, which wasnt the type of element I was really looking for.

It wasn't anything too complicated, i work a lot on instinct but this is what i did
I was meditating at home in front of my desk as normal and for ages i have been visulising the same place which is my special place a clearing in the woods surrounded by bluebells with a waterfall running into a pool and down a small stream and a tree groeing near the water's edge, i decided to try and meet with a nature spirit. i visulised myself entering the waterfall, i was feeling rather crappy and was told waterfalls were good for cleansing as well so i stood in the waterfall, i thought about how water helped the other elements and how each were dependant on the other and i wondered what it would be like to be water so i created what it would be like to be flowing down the stream as water it felt really playful and i ended up going underground and into what i can only describe as an underground cave, as i stepped out she stepped out behind me. Water spirits are awesome, because water can take any shape so too could her form.

I have done a similar thing with earth wind and fire to create the whole circle and understanding of how they are all dependent on each other, although i never met the spirits, although when i visulised being the wind i was playing with someone an we were chasing eachother and playing between the trees (yes it sounds childish coming from a 28 year old but hey)

I don't know how i came up with the idea to try visulising myself as these elements but that seems to be how i got there, i have always had a very close relationship with water, i am an excellent swimmer i love the sea, lakes ponds rain i feel a close affinity to it and other people have said i have one too without me having said anything

One thing i made very clear though when i started the mediation is i didn't want them to 'work for me' that would be insultive i asked that i could work for them and receive their guidence.

I did a quick search for you the following may be good reading:

Coven of Cythrawl
Elementals Nature Spirits Elemental Spirits What are Elemental Wicca pagan Elementals Spirits Wiccan Mustika Pearls Bezoar Stones Animal Totems Shamans Shamanism Mysticism Totem Shamanic Shamanism Talismans Occult Powers Magick Powers Magickal Energi
Real Magick Article - Working with the elements by Anja Heij
Working with Faeries | How to See and Work with the Fairy Realm

Not sure if this is the kind of thing you are looking for
If you have a particular element in mind meditate and visulise yourself as that element, i found fire quite hard, anyway in my meditation i first saw the element then i saw how it connected to the other elements example
Water needs air because without movement it would stagnate and also it needs i to travel
water needs earth to move and gather
water needs fire (or heat) to travel

fire needs air to burn
fire needes earth to create substance to burn
fire needs water to have depth (and water needs fire (or heat) to travel)

i found this page for you to better explain what i mean about their relance on eachother

Raven's Tarot Site

once i put together a full picture for the element i was focusing on i then imagined myself as it, it takes time but at some point you feel you are not alone, with water it happened for me straight away with wind it took several attempts but you dont feel so alone then after time you may meet them and ask if you could have the honour of working with or for them whichever feels more appropriate to you.

Like i said, i did mine on instinct, perhaps other ppl do it other ways?

[codenamesmiley]

Kitai..I love your happy place. Thank you for taking us there.

I have always seen elementals as double edged swords for one another.

Example...Water physically dowses fire..but the emotional energy of water also sustains a flame .

The same fire that can destroy earth..also gives Earth the renewal in it's ashes.

And so forth. air fuels fire..yet fires smoke can poison air. A slight breeze can stoke a flame..and a hard one can blow it out.

Earth absorbs water to nourish seeds sown...as it can also flood and drown out and smother life.

I like your take on it. I am going to try to view this elemental thing through your facets for a while, and see what opportunity arises in my own relationship with Earth and the elements.

Thank you.
Love to you,
Rebecca

[elucidate]

Beautiful.

Originally Posted by kitai

It wasn't anything too complicated, i work a lot on instinct but this is what i did
I was meditating at home in front of my desk as normal and for ages i have been visulising the same place which is my special place a clearing in the woods surrounded by bluebells with a waterfall running into a pool and down a small stream and a tree groeing near the water's edge, i decided to try and meet with a nature spirit. i visulised myself entering the waterfall, i was feeling rather crappy and was told waterfalls were good for cleansing as well so i stood in the waterfall, i thought about how water helped the other elements and how each were dependant on the other and i wondered what it would be like to be water so i created what it would be like to be flowing down the stream as water it felt really playful and i ended up going underground and into what i can only describe as an underground cave, as i stepped out she stepped out behind me. Water spirits are awesome, because water can take any shape so too could her form.

I have done a similar thing with earth wind and fire to create the whole circle and understanding of how they are all dependent on each other, although i never met the spirits, although when i visulised being the wind i was playing with someone an we were chasing eachother and playing between the trees (yes it sounds childish coming from a 28 year old but hey)

I don't know how i came up with the idea to try visulising myself as these elements but that seems to be how i got there, i have always had a very close relationship with water, i am an excellent swimmer i love the sea, lakes ponds rain i feel a close affinity to it and other people have said i have one too without me having said anything

One thing i made very clear though when i started the mediation is i didn't want them to 'work for me' that would be insultive i asked that i could work for them and receive their guidence.

I did a quick search for you the following may be good reading:

Coven of Cythrawl
Elementals Nature Spirits Elemental Spirits What are Elemental Wicca pagan Elementals Spirits Wiccan Mustika Pearls Bezoar Stones Animal Totems Shamans Shamanism Mysticism Totem Shamanic Shamanism Talismans Occult Powers Magick Powers Magickal Energi
Real Magick Article - Working with the elements by Anja Heij
Working with Faeries | How to See and Work with the Fairy Realm

Not sure if this is the kind of thing you are looking for
If you have a particular element in mind meditate and visulise yourself as that element, i found fire quite hard, anyway in my meditation i first saw the element then i saw how it connected to the other elements example
Water needs air because without movement it would stagnate and also it needs i to travel
water needs earth to move and gather
water needs fire (or heat) to travel

fire needs air to burn
fire needes earth to create substance to burn
fire needs water to have depth (and water needs fire (or heat) to travel)

i found this page for you to better explain what i mean about their relance on eachother

Raven's Tarot Site

once i put together a full picture for the element i was focusing on i then imagined myself as it, it takes time but at some point you feel you are not alone, with water it happened for me straight away with wind it took several attempts but you dont feel so alone then after time you may meet them and ask if you could have the honour of working with or for them whichever feels more appropriate to you.

Like i said, i did mine on instinct, perhaps other ppl do it other ways?

[desertrat]

I think these critters are what are known as astral elementals , in a part of the astral plane just out side of normal human perception . desert rat

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by desertrat

I think these critters are what are known as astral elementals , in a part of the astral plane just out side of normal human perception . desert rat

Yes indeed.

[codenamesmiley]

Originally Posted by desertrat

I think these critters are what are known as astral elementals , in a part of the astral plane just out side of normal human perception . desert rat

Well there you have confirmed for me..I am ABnormal. I like it.

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by codenamesmiley

Well there you have confirmed for me..I am ABnormal. I like it.

Join the club...we're freaks together...Awww, that's beautiful man

[oasis]

Cheers for all the responses, and the information entailed.
It would be good to see some kind of entity from the astral/etheric planes, emphasising the colourful, multi dimensional reality of this universe...

Reminds me though, need to work on astral projection/lucid dreaming lol

[kitai]

Originally Posted by codenamesmiley

I like your take on it. I am going to try to view this elemental thing through your facets for a while, and see what opportunity arises in my own relationship with Earth and the elements.

You will have to let me know how you get on, i see the double edged side too and how they each in their circle create a weakness i found learin how they all needed eachother was interesting

Love to you too

Dee x

[codenamesmiley]

Originally Posted by elucidate

Join the club...we're freaks together...Awww, that's beautiful man

Poetic!! At the very least.

[codenamesmiley]

Originally Posted by kitai

You will have to let me know how you get on, i see the double edged side too and how they each in their circle create a weakness i found learin how they all needed eachother was interesting

Love to you too

Dee x

Everything in the Universe, is about balance.

[desertrat]

When I stated normal human perception I meant it required an altered state of consciousness to see astral elements . Unless they want to be scene by us and lower there vibes . desert rat

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by desertrat

When I stated normal human perception I meant it required an altered state of consciousness to see astral elements . Unless they want to be scene by us and lower there vibes . desert rat

I'm wondering why you are able to spell a word like 'see' but then you spell the word 'seen' as 'scene'?

Surely you know that they are two totally different words with different meanings alltogether?

Do you just like to occasionally mis-spell words, for the hell of it? I'm really curious...

[codenamesmiley]

I love misspelled words

If you read them as they spell out...you will find divine undertones.

[rickrock]

Originally Posted by elucidate

I'm wondering why you are able to spell a word like 'see' but then you spell the word 'seen' as 'scene'?

Surely you know that they are two totally different words with different meanings alltogether?

Do you just like to occasionally mis-spell words, for the hell of it? I'm really curious...

Haha, I also noticed that! He is very intelligent. When I used to text a lot I would spell words as homophones and sometimes the words were longer. It was just easier for me. It also bothered people a lot. I found that part funny

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by rickrock

Haha, I also noticed that! He is very intelligent. When I used to text a lot I would spell words as homophones and sometimes the words were longer. It was just easier for me. It also bothered people a lot. I found that part funny

Yes...I have a feeling he finds it quite amusing as well

people do have the strangest fetishes...like mis-spelt words!

There was one guy here, who used to use the letter 'z' in place of 's' whenever it was called for...so 'scene' would become 'zene' etc.

[rickrock]

Originally Posted by elucidate

Yes...I have a feeling he finds it quite amusing as well

people do have the strangest fetishes...like mis-spelt words!

LMAO! Wow, never thought of that. What ever floats his desert boat I guess (is there ever a bad time for the cool guy smiley?!)
PS: Like the new photo!

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by rickrock

PS: Like the new photo!

Thankyou kindly

[codenamesmiley]

LOL I at one point also told Desert to use spell check. This was before I woke up and realized that refusal to conform is a gift..not an impediment.

[elucidate]

Is it refusal to conform? He's said a few times that he's just a really bad speller...is that just a lie? Does he like to lie to us?

I can appreciate non-conformity...I also appreciate words and reading them clearly.

[desertrat]

I use a dictionary so people can understand my text. There are words that sound the same but are spelled differmt . "synonyms " conforming has little to do with it , some times I take my best guess at the spelling of a word . desert rat

[Nimue]

Nature spirits, yes. How can whole forests full of life have no spirit of any kind? But fairies, gnomes e.t.c. in their literature-istic form no, I don't think so. That's why they are called "spirits" and not e.g. "tiny humen with a biological body and wings" after all.