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andersoncromar · 06-30-2010, 11:58 AM

Hello folks,

This is my first post.

First of all, I'd like some advide and maybe someone to explain to me whats happening here!

I know I have sleep paralysis, Ive had it for many years now and average once a week. Ive had expeiences of being thrown up to the ceiling and spun round, floating out of my bed, flying, being pushed down into my bed, being raped and beings in my room trying to hurt me. I pretty much know how to control these experiences and am learning to live with them.

Every night before I go to sleep I hear lots of voices in my head trying to get my attention, like about 10 or more people talking to me at once but if I try concentrating on what one person is saying they all go away. Any ideas what this is about?

Any advice is greatly appreciated!

Shona

desertrat · 06-30-2010, 06:56 PM

welcome to the forum . When you say floated out of bed and spun around I assume it is your astral body . Your place mite be possed by demons or ghosts. You mite try srounding your self with white lite , do a smudging , or get some one to exercize the demons away. Smudging is done with burning sage, find a new age book store near to you and ask them. Sage smells like pot save some in case any one thinks you are smoking pot. Read other posts and blogs here you never know what you mite find. Others on the forum may have other ideas , go with what works for you. desert rat

MissV · 07-01-2010, 02:41 AM

Shona,
after reading you post, it sounds to me like where you are living has some sort of unwanted energy around it. or the energy has attached itself to you during some point of your life. (i like to say energy over demon because its less scary that way.. but thats what im meaning). And Im only lead to beleive that its a demon type of energy because you mentioned rape. Demons like to attack the most vonerable things for a person. So, its natural why this is happening at night before your going to bed because your in a vonerable state.
I dont know anything about getting rid of a demon or bad energy, but clensing yourself or your inviorment should help. Demons are created out of a negative insident, or energy, just something horrifying. So getting rid of them is dangerous, and very scary. Be careful in what you do when you are trying to get rid of it. it could increase or get worst.. just be very very careful.

sorry... i know this is all a little scatter brained. but thats all i know.

tarajc · 07-01-2010, 02:50 AM

I don't personally believe in demons at all. Are you sure you're not having lucid dreams? The fact that you say you can control these experiences makes me wonder.

Mato Kinze · 07-01-2010, 05:31 AM

You can look at this in two ways:
1. "Scientific/Rational": What you are experiencing is a natural and common phenomenon called "Hypnogogic Halucinations." These are exactly what you described; visual, auditory and tactile halucinations experienced on the cusp of sleep both in falling asleep and in waking. Someone with pronounced Sleep Paralysis is much more likely to experience these halucinations than others who experience a more normal sleep/wake cycle.

2. "Spiritual/energetic": In your semi-conscious state you are more open to receiving and experiencing non-material energies. Your energy body is much more loosely attached to your Tonal body and is therefore more engaged by and affected by these forces.

If you prefer the former route, a good Neurologist and a sleep study would provide adequate information to help provide effective medication to normalize your sleep/wake cycle. This would eliminate the sleep paralysis and either greatly reduce or eliminate altogether the halucinations.

If you prefer the latter, then I would recommend seeking out a spiritual advisor. It needs to be one that you resonate with though. Simply picking up a book at a New Age store is a beginning, but it will not solve your dilemma. For a Spiritual solution to be effective, it MUST come from the Heart and that can only come with true Belief and unshakable Faith. Simply waving some smoldering Sage around won't do a damn thing unless you understand the Sacred nature of the Ally and accept it's Medicine, and THAT only comes with learning.

Peace and blessings to you, Andersoncromar.

Weena · 07-01-2010, 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tarajc

I don't personally believe in demons at all. Are you sure you're not having lucid dreams? The fact that you say you can control these experiences makes me wonder.

I don't believe in demons either, however i had a freaky experience once (thank God only ONCE) with some entities/whatever it was trying to pull "me" outside of my body, so I do believe what she is explaining.

Shona, ask for protection... pray for a start (to whomever you believe in), and definitely seek advice with someone experienced in that field. I will send a prayer for your peace.

kitai · 07-02-2010, 02:18 PM

you could try to purify your room by visulising a waerfall washing over it and you.
Before you go to bed as for the protection of your guides and angels that work only with the love and light and if you start feeling anything you dont want to be there tell it to step back and leave you alone.
I have recently started attending spirituality sessions and these are a few things we were told when dealing with negative engeries or things that scare us, you can also ask that if they are trying to show you something important to do so in a different way as it is scaring you.

tarajc · 07-05-2010, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weena

I don't believe in demons either, however i had a freaky experience once (thank God only ONCE) with some entities/whatever it was trying to pull "me" outside of my body, so I do believe what she is explaining.

Shona, ask for protection... pray for a start (to whomever you believe in), and definitely seek advice with someone experienced in that field. I will send a prayer for your peace.

Weena, I believe her. I've had my share of experiences too. It's her being able to somewhat control the experiences that I'm curious about.

Shona, I do agree with Weena though on this: Ask for protection and pray. Know that it will come. Hang in there and let us know if things are getting better.

dream · 07-06-2010, 04:25 AM

Is there any possibility you can leave where you are living. This is not natural and it is not something you want to take on if you have no experience. It will get worse if you do not do something now. Sometime we think we can live with the situation we are in but why should you. Praying for protection is an excellent idea.

Sarinae · 07-07-2010, 06:21 AM

Eeeuuuurgh. Not good. Right now, the most you can do is start calling on higher powers, and when you're getting ready to go to sleep, think or even say aloud:

"Get out. You are not welcome here."

It is your space, your home, your room, your body and nothing has the right to take that away from you. So, fight it if you feel you can, and even if not, insist it leave. It might be "under control" but especially with the rape, that's not good enough, and by claiming you're "controlling it" it feels like it's really controlling you by convincing you you can't just make it leave.

As for the voices...I'm not sure. That could just be the voices of the other worlds around you, or it could even be the voices of what is causing you trouble, or even your guardians. The way you should deal with the voices varies depending on what they are.

06-30-2010, 11:58 AM	#1 (permalink)
andersoncromar Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1	New to this and help please!! Hello folks, This is my first post. First of all, I'd like some advide and maybe someone to explain to me whats happening here! I know I have sleep paralysis, Ive had it for many years now and average once a week. Ive had expeiences of being thrown up to the ceiling and spun round, floating out of my bed, flying, being pushed down into my bed, being raped and beings in my room trying to hurt me. I pretty much know how to control these experiences and am learning to live with them. Every night before I go to sleep I hear lots of voices in my head trying to get my attention, like about 10 or more people talking to me at once but if I try concentrating on what one person is saying they all go away. Any ideas what this is about? Any advice is greatly appreciated! Shona

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06-30-2010, 06:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
desertrat Family Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,881	welcome to the forum . When you say floated out of bed and spun around I assume it is your astral body . Your place mite be possed by demons or ghosts. You mite try srounding your self with white lite , do a smudging , or get some one to exercize the demons away. Smudging is done with burning sage, find a new age book store near to you and ask them. Sage smells like pot save some in case any one thinks you are smoking pot. Read other posts and blogs here you never know what you mite find. Others on the forum may have other ideas , go with what works for you. desert rat

07-01-2010, 02:41 AM	#3 (permalink)
MissV Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 19	Shona, after reading you post, it sounds to me like where you are living has some sort of unwanted energy around it. or the energy has attached itself to you during some point of your life. (i like to say energy over demon because its less scary that way.. but thats what im meaning). And Im only lead to beleive that its a demon type of energy because you mentioned rape. Demons like to attack the most vonerable things for a person. So, its natural why this is happening at night before your going to bed because your in a vonerable state. I dont know anything about getting rid of a demon or bad energy, but clensing yourself or your inviorment should help. Demons are created out of a negative insident, or energy, just something horrifying. So getting rid of them is dangerous, and very scary. Be careful in what you do when you are trying to get rid of it. it could increase or get worst.. just be very very careful. sorry... i know this is all a little scatter brained. but thats all i know.

07-01-2010, 02:50 AM	#4 (permalink)
tarajc Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 276	I don't personally believe in demons at all. Are you sure you're not having lucid dreams? The fact that you say you can control these experiences makes me wonder.

07-01-2010, 05:31 AM	#5 (permalink)
Mato Kinze Family Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 1,100	You can look at this in two ways: 1. "Scientific/Rational": What you are experiencing is a natural and common phenomenon called "Hypnogogic Halucinations." These are exactly what you described; visual, auditory and tactile halucinations experienced on the cusp of sleep both in falling asleep and in waking. Someone with pronounced Sleep Paralysis is much more likely to experience these halucinations than others who experience a more normal sleep/wake cycle. 2. "Spiritual/energetic": In your semi-conscious state you are more open to receiving and experiencing non-material energies. Your energy body is much more loosely attached to your Tonal body and is therefore more engaged by and affected by these forces. If you prefer the former route, a good Neurologist and a sleep study would provide adequate information to help provide effective medication to normalize your sleep/wake cycle. This would eliminate the sleep paralysis and either greatly reduce or eliminate altogether the halucinations. If you prefer the latter, then I would recommend seeking out a spiritual advisor. It needs to be one that you resonate with though. Simply picking up a book at a New Age store is a beginning, but it will not solve your dilemma. For a Spiritual solution to be effective, it MUST come from the Heart and that can only come with true Belief and unshakable Faith. Simply waving some smoldering Sage around won't do a damn thing unless you understand the Sacred nature of the Ally and accept it's Medicine, and THAT only comes with learning. Peace and blessings to you, Andersoncromar.

07-02-2010, 02:18 PM	#7 (permalink)
kitai Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Staffordshire, UK Posts: 63	you could try to purify your room by visulising a waerfall washing over it and you. Before you go to bed as for the protection of your guides and angels that work only with the love and light and if you start feeling anything you dont want to be there tell it to step back and leave you alone. I have recently started attending spirituality sessions and these are a few things we were told when dealing with negative engeries or things that scare us, you can also ask that if they are trying to show you something important to do so in a different way as it is scaring you.

07-06-2010, 04:25 AM	#9 (permalink)
dream Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA Posts: 614	Is there any possibility you can leave where you are living. This is not natural and it is not something you want to take on if you have no experience. It will get worse if you do not do something now. Sometime we think we can live with the situation we are in but why should you. Praying for protection is an excellent idea.

07-07-2010, 06:21 AM	#10 (permalink)
Sarinae Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: United States Posts: 30	Eeeuuuurgh. Not good. Right now, the most you can do is start calling on higher powers, and when you're getting ready to go to sleep, think or even say aloud: "Get out. You are not welcome here." It is your space, your home, your room, your body and nothing has the right to take that away from you. So, fight it if you feel you can, and even if not, insist it leave. It might be "under control" but especially with the rape, that's not good enough, and by claiming you're "controlling it" it feels like it's really controlling you by convincing you you can't just make it leave. As for the voices...I'm not sure. That could just be the voices of the other worlds around you, or it could even be the voices of what is causing you trouble, or even your guardians. The way you should deal with the voices varies depending on what they are.

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