transcendental meditation anyone?

[Laurenaus]

The Transcendental Meditation (TM) Program - Official website. How and where to learn.

anyone heard of transcendental meditation? Spoke to a clairvoyant whose been doing it for 15 years and recommends it. She paid 400 but the fee has gone up to a hefty 1500. Too pricey for me but just wanted to know if anyone's heard of it.

She also added that she doesn't believe in guides because she's never had a personal experience with them. I visit other parts of this forum and feel that views on guides are really split. Why is this?

[desertrat]

I have herd of tm , but I dont rely know much about it . You could buy lots of meditation cd s and yoga clases for $1500 . I would shop around . desert rat

[theuprising]

What the f***, why does this stuff cost money, if they are teaching what they say they are teaching. The freaking church does not charge you to get saved by Jesus..

Well this is from an observer who never participated in any such $1k programs just expressing confusion.

[desertrat]

That tm program would haft to come with a money back garentee for $1500 . That mite be that swamey to John Lennon he used in the 60s . There are links to free and cheep stuff on this forum and other forums . Most major cities have yoga clases at reasonable rates . Churches dont charge , but you feel guilty when they pass the colection plate .

[supertom]

Its actually quite simple, there was a page describing it for free. Its just simple mantra meditation, you receive a name and you repeat that name in mantra meditation, you cant change your name. Thats pretty much it.

[desertrat]

In tm you repete a word like ohm , or ohm ne-mo guro dev ne-mo (from kuldini yoga) ? Supertom you could of made $1500 for that info (lol) I think if you do a startpage.com or google.com serch for transcendel med. you can find that info.

[Harmonium]

according to montalk, this type of meditation can be dangerous, just dropping the link here in case anyone wants a read.

(montalk.net) Research Notes: Faux Spirituality

[rei]

Originally Posted by Laurenaus

She also added that she doesn't believe in guides because she's never had a personal experience with them. I visit other parts of this forum and feel that views on guides are really split. Why is this?

Perhaps it is what she said, about personal experience. I did not really have a conscious belief in spirit guides before I experienced my team myself. (I did not believe they didn't exist but I didn't believe they were there either.)

I am not sure I understand the question here. We each create our reality based on belief and expectation, and some of us don't create room in our reality for the experience because we're not interested in doing so (or for a variety of other reasons).

I think things can seem pretty split in other areas of spirituality also. Some believe in Jesus, some don't. Some believe in the power of curses, some don't.

In my experience we each have a team of spirit guides (have never had a client in my spiritual work who didn't have spirit guides). But others may create a different conscious-level experience if they are using different filters. Just because I experience someone's spirit guides, that doesn't mean their conscious self would also experience them. In my experience even skeptics have spirit guides, but most of them are not as likely to choose filters that will allow for a conscious-level experience of them. It seems mostly a matter of choice.

To complicate this further, some create a personal reality where nothing can exist unless they choose it consciously, based on their belief and expectation. In such a scenario, while I might see that there is still a team of guides on the unconscious level, if that person thinks nothing exists in their reality unless they choose it on the surface then they might say it can't exist on the unconscious level.

There's also variety in what we think spirit guides are. Some think they must always be a certain type of being, some think they must have certain "types" or must have a personality like a human being (even though the ego self identity is part of living in a physical form), some think they are just aspects of yourself and targets of projection. Some expect most spirit guides to have a name they come here with (usually that's not the case, from my understanding, and most of them don't care what we call them).

So there is a lot of variety on this topic, and I think much of it comes down to belief, expectation, and the filters we apply to our reality experience. Just my opinion based on my own subjective experience

[Piercetheveil]

Yes, have experience with TM. It is pricey. I have noticed no difference in TM compared to any other of disciplined strain. I know and have practiced quite a few. Whatever gets people to be aware and present I suppose.

On the spirit guides...Why is it split? Now, you KNOW that is a question that has nothing to do with the subject and more to do with sociology/psychology. Sheez.

ReI deff has a strong opinion on it. You could flip her view and find her polar opposite and they would be convinced people block the ability to see clearly without the need for illusion.

As for me...I have no opinion.

[SheldonCooper]

Originally Posted by Harmonium

according to montalk, this type of meditation can be dangerous, just dropping the link here in case anyone wants a read.

(montalk.net) Research Notes: Faux Spirituality

Hmnn, that says nothing specific to this kind of medication.

[desertrat]

Some hypnosis teq. use repeting a word or words . Why would this be dangerous ? Unles you are using dangerous words . If you repeet the words "my body is healthy , compleet, and functions perfectly " over and over , or "I have relesed all repressed stuff form ever leval of my being " or "I will have intence astral sex tonight " how can that be dangerous ? desert rat

[luckyluciano]

Looks like whenever a belief contrary to that of Stonage wandering herdsmen it's considered dangerous because the herdsmen were wise enough to futurepace against any competing beliefs. Stoneage myths live on.

[desertrat]

I am never done t.m. so I dont know much about it , I dont think its dangerious . I will say it this way . Lets say there 2 gasoline stations next to each other , the same big tanker fills both stations . The station on one side of the street has 87 oct.. for $2.50 a gal. the one on the other side sells it for $4.25 a gal. Many people buy gas for $4.25 a gal. thinking the higher priced gas is better . desert rat

[theuprising]

Originally Posted by SheldonCooper

Hmnn, that says nothing specific to this kind of medication.

it looks like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Remember not to fall for fairy tales, and plenty of new agey stuff is just that. You've overcome the fairytale that Eve was made from Adam's rib through common sense, apply some here too.

[IceWolf]

I did TM. It seemed good at first, but after a while it stopped working and I started getting headaches. I was perhaps more persistent than most people in trying to get help from the teachers in whatever I might be doing wrong. But after a while I noticed the teachers sounded like robots. In response to my problems and questions, they ran through sequences that seemed reassuring at the time but didn't really help when I got home. I quit when it finally dawned on me that the responses were always the same few, repeated word-for-word. I found the scripts on the internet years later, which fitted my memory exactly. Creepy and validating at the same time.

Some people quit, some people keep the basic meditation and stop there, and some people keep coming back for the very pricy intensive workshops (perhaps later becoming teachers). Is TM dangerous? I am a little concerned about the third group anyway.

[kjbill]

There is an affordable alternative to the TM organization and its only $25 to learn. I have been practicing it and I like it. You get the same benefits that TM has to offer.

Natural Stress Relief meditation vs Transcendental Meditation