Spirit contact? Or guide?

[JMan]

Relatively new to this site, but have had several 'interesting' experiences - weather control, animal command, visions, accepted possession - thought I'd describe them all in one thread at first, but I think I'll approach them one by one and would like some feedback. No one in my current circles seem to be capable of relating.

OK, first one (though not the first to happen), this one really got me. I've seen posts where people describe laying 'half awake, half asleep' in bed, fully aware of what is going on in their surroundings, but unable to move, speak, anything, although they really want to. This has happened to me a few times. Sometimes it feels like there is something 'inside' my mattress, rolling up and down my back and legs - but I can't move.

A few years ago, I was living in an apartment and my roommate was highly spiritual, but trying to escape from a dark past. I was trying to help. He was highly intelligent, had developed a remarkable psycological development theory and 3-d map explaining all levels of development - never seen anything like it.

Anyway, we both had been studying the Bible more and more, and I had been experiencing visions of animals, lions, gazelles, etc doing things in open fields. This is kind of a side note.

So, back to the bed - I was laying there in my room one morning coming out of a good night's sleep, and that 'can't move' feeling overwhelmed me as my senses heightened. I felt a presence. I said, 'who are you'. 'Zadok' was the reply. I wasn't afraid, more amazed. Then I asked, 'should I tell (my roomate)?' 'Zadok' replied, 'No, he will come to you.' then the spirit left.

I immediately woke up, kind of dazed by what had happened, and went to the shower. While I was taking my shower, my roomate (who normally sleeps for another 3 hours or so) came into the bathroom. 'What's up?' I said. He said, 'um...did...did something happen to you this morning?' I said, 'like what?' He said, 'Uh...did someone talk to you?' 'Yeah, they said you would come to me about it.'

Anyway, this event sort of solidified for me the existence of 'the other side'. My roomate eventually almost snapped, as his anger grew over the next 3 years and we parted ways after several trying events. This was 10 years ago.

Any discussion would be sort of theraputic for me. Thanks

[JMan]

anyone? Is this the wrong forum?

[JMan]

anyone able to explain this?

[Erin Pavlina]

That was spirit contact. Could have been a spirit hanging around your roommate. When your roommate came to you and you had that conversation what happened after that?

[JMan]

We discussed it right away, not totally sure what it was. The name, Zadok, we soon found out, was of a priest of King David's, and later Solomon's. This dovetailed neatly with our direction at the time (we were building a business), but didn't quite line up with our beliefs.

The next 3 years was a journey of spirituality and I had no grounding or outside source to base experiences off of. It was all new and I was taking his lead - he was the most charasmatic and intelligent person I had ever met and I was fascinated with his knowlege and ability to 'peg' a person to the core with their insecurities in a matter of minutes.

Coincedental IM things would happen quite frequently with us, including monetary offers to fund our work from the most unlikely sources. Parking spaces all the time - directions - My roomate would claim to 'talk with God' in his sleep, and things got a bit cult-ish. Looking back its clear to see the manipulation, and when we finally parted ways, he was convinced we had been plagued by demons working against us, but there had been so much manipulation I was unsure if that is what he actually thought or if it was an excuse for his behavior. Either way, it left me confused.

I've never been able to talk about this fully with anyone who could relate.

[JMan]

Thanks for the reply Erin.

[Erin Pavlina]

It's possible the energies he was drawing to you were not of the highest vibration if you know what I mean. What are your experiences like without him in your life?

[JMan]

Successful mostly, monitarily, relationship-wise etc. There were a couple of years of transition where the world seemed off and I had no definition, or answers. Things seemed a little 'boring' in comparision as well but that may be that I chose to make it so with my intentions. Having fully believed that I was on the 'right' path at the time with so many new and spiritually stimulating things happening, it was almost like stepping into a vacuum afterwords. I felt I had no purpose, and that has been an underriding feeling since then - what is my purpose. Redefining my religious beliefs has been a rewarding path however and my faith is strong. One things for sure, I don't feel like I'm walking on eggshells any longer.

During that time, many spiritual 'powers' manifested, and since then many prayers/intentions have been answered. The only place I feel trapped is in my career, as I want to transition into my calling. I felt I was more in line with that back then, and not so much now.

[Billy]

I have had a similar experience with animal guides.In my true dream which is what I call them because they are more vivid than ordinary dreams. I was in a stable and there was a horse in front of me. As I was patting the horse I realised there was something unusual about the animal in that its eyes possesed too much awareness, I said to it you are not a horse and straight away it vanished and to my left was a woman of about 20 years of age crouched in the corner. I asked her "how do you shape shift". All she said was you must go down the hole and strike the dragon between the eyes. Later I understood that she had ignored my question and was addressing my current need to face my fears. I also understand now that shamanic dreams each have a test to prove our own awareness. If I hadn't the awareness inside my dreams to spot the unusual flaws that giveaway the pressence of meaning then it would have continued on as any other dream. Let the sleepers sleep and let those who are awakening wake.

[CFPurpose]

Hi JMan. (I'm pressed for time so sorry if I repeat knowledge that has already been spoken on this thread.)

You should be excited! ... And excited for many different reasons might I add.

1st off you mentioned;

Originally Posted by JMan

I had been experiencing visions of animals, lions, gazelles, etc doing things in open fields. This is kind of a side note.

Were these visions while awake or were they dream states? Sounds like "Dream time" to me if you were in a sleep state. Google the word "Dream time" up. Quite interesting info. The animals? Those are your Totem animals. Totem animals are very real and assist us with many things in our life. Have you noticed much of the same animals? Remember, you can have multiple totem animals with you so there is no limit however certain ones may be more connected with you than others. As they serves more purpose in your life, the more they will make themselves known. This is a BIG step in your spiritual/metaphysical ascent!

The Lion is the symbol of the sun and of gold. Medieval alchemists associated Lion with sulfur. A Lion totem presents a lesson in dealing with groups and your role within those groups. It is a totem for avoiding confrontations and for stealth. Take the easy way to meet your goals; do not confront them head on. A Lion totem tells you to trust your feminine energies – creativity, intuition and imagination. But don’t be afraid to roar if threatened.

"beloved of the Lady,
Reveal to me the ancient methods of magic.
Walk beside me as I grow in strength and courage.
Show me when to keep ties strong and when to break them.
Help me to understand the times for work and the times for rest, my mighty Lion"


Gazelles remind us to be alert and aware. Gazelles, as the intended dinner of the big cats, are vulnerable, and maintain a high alertness to what goes on in their surroundings. They teach us that with awareness and skill, we can be comfortable in our own vulnerability. * Gazelles also represent your inner soal.


Once you learn to work with these animals, things will start making a lot of since. I really must learn to work with mine more. My son has gone to "dream time". He has some great totem animals that have offered him some MAJOR assistance. It has been beautiful. They have always come to him when he is in need of comfort.


Main reason I gave this information to you was to point out that for you to see your totem animals is a very large message from them asking you to take note of what they are bringing forth. You are quite enlightened and lucky at that!


Here's a quick link to a list of animals of course you can find much more in depth description whilst searching. I simply must go find the page i did my research on for my son. Once I find it, I'll post it to you.

Power Animals


As far as "Zadok" goes. There was definently a strong link between your partner and you for "Zadok" to make a connection however since you both were spiritually connecting at the same time; your combined energy was more than likely very very strong. Because of this, it was only natural that "Zadok" could work through the two of you. To bad it wasn't pursued before you and your partner split. I wouldn't be discouraged though. Ask "Zadok" to return if he or she has full and good intentions and would benefit you solely. It may not be an immediate response but if you spend time on it and it was meant for you to receive more, you will get it.

"Zadok" very well may have been the character chosen to move you into your next stage of enlightenment. You did say that this event solidified the existence of 'the other side' for you, correct? It's wrather funny how the "other side" works sometimes and sometimes they do it in the most interesting ways!


GOOD LUCK TO YA.

[CFPurpose]

Got through the thread today. Interesting to see that you were able to identify "Zodak". Absolutely amazing and wonderful. As you feel a little seperated now, it will come back to you and do not forget that you can always try to reach Zodak and his assistance again. Wonderful story you have there.

Also, as I drove down the road yesterday to go pick up my children, I thought to myself how my mentioning of Totem animals may confuse you a bit or make you leary as I would assume you consider yourself to be a follower of "Jesus Christ?" I would assume this by your mention of the bible. Just to let you know, I too am a follower of Jesus and Totem Animals are only another part of his lovely creation.


Billy, I wanted to address what you said here as well;

Originally Posted by Billy

I have had a similar experience with animal guides.In my true dream which is what I call them because they are more vivid than ordinary dreams.I was in a stable and there was a horse in front of me. As I was patting the horse I realised there was something unusual about the animal in that its eyes possesed too much awareness, I said to it you are not a horse and straight away it vanished and to my left was a woman of about 20 years of age crouched in the corner. I asked her "how do you shape shift". All she said was you must go down the hole and strike the dragon between the eyes. Later I understood that she had ignored my question and was addressing my current need to face my fears. I also understand now that shamanic dreams each have a test to prove our own awareness. If I hadn't the awareness inside my dreams to spot the unusual flaws that giveaway the pressence of meaning then it would have continued on as any other dream. Let the sleepers sleep and let those who are awakening wake.

You may know this but I'll add it not only in case you don't but for others who may benefit from the information. It is believed that when you dream of a horse, it is your inner soal or your dearest and closest spirit guide coming to communicate with you. A strong message is always linked with a horse dream. IF the horse talks, you are to pay very close attention to the words spoken.

-- What amazing control you have Billy over your ability to not only lucid dream but communicate with the entities coming to your aid within your dream. For your mind to seperate the horse from her true identity speaks very loudly of you and your abilities.

[Billy]

Originally Posted by CFPurpose

Got through the thread today. Interesting to see that you were able to identify "Zodak". Absolutely amazing and wonderful. As you feel a little seperated now, it will come back to you and do not forget that you can always try to reach Zodak and his assistance again. Wonderful story you have there.

Also, as I drove down the road yesterday to go pick up my children, I thought to myself how my mentioning of Totem animals may confuse you a bit or make you leary as I would assume you consider yourself to be a follower of "Jesus Christ?" I would assume this by your mention of the bible. Just to let you know, I too am a follower of Jesus and Totem Animals are only another part of his lovely creation.


Billy, I wanted to address what you said here as well;




You may know this but I'll add it not only in case you don't but for others who may benefit from the information. It is believed that when you dream of a horse, it is your inner soal or your dearest and closest spirit guide coming to communicate with you. A strong message is always linked with a horse dream. IF the horse talks, you are to pay very close attention to the words spoken.

-- What amazing control you have Billy over your ability to not only lucid dream but communicate with the entities coming to your aid within your dream. For your mind to seperate the horse from her true identity speaks very loudly of you and your abilities.

Thanks CF I didn't actually know that but to tell you the truth it doesnt surprise me that the horse holds special indications for the individual. Information is available to everybody no matter what race color or creed you belong to.We are all connected to each other and the universe at large at all times. Good luck in your adventures into self awareness.

[CFPurpose]

Originally Posted by Billy

Good luck in your adventures into self awareness.

Good luck on yours as well Billy.

[JMan]

Originally Posted by CFPurpose

Hi JMan. (I'm pressed for time so sorry if I repeat knowledge that has already been spoken on this thread.)

You should be excited! ... And excited for many different reasons might I add.

1st off you mentioned;



Were these visions while awake or were they dream states? Sounds like "Dream time" to me if you were in a sleep state. Google the word "Dream time" up. Quite interesting info. The animals? Those are your Totem animals. Totem animals are very real and assist us with many things in our life. Have you noticed much of the same animals? Remember, you can have multiple totem animals with you so there is no limit however certain ones may be more connected with you than others. As they serves more purpose in your life, the more they will make themselves known. This is a BIG step in your spiritual/metaphysical ascent!

The Lion is the symbol of the sun and of gold. Medieval alchemists associated Lion with sulfur. A Lion totem presents a lesson in dealing with groups and your role within those groups. It is a totem for avoiding confrontations and for stealth. Take the easy way to meet your goals; do not confront them head on. A Lion totem tells you to trust your feminine energies – creativity, intuition and imagination. But don’t be afraid to roar if threatened.

"beloved of the Lady,
Reveal to me the ancient methods of magic.
Walk beside me as I grow in strength and courage.
Show me when to keep ties strong and when to break them.
Help me to understand the times for work and the times for rest, my mighty Lion"


Gazelles remind us to be alert and aware. Gazelles, as the intended dinner of the big cats, are vulnerable, and maintain a high alertness to what goes on in their surroundings. They teach us that with awareness and skill, we can be comfortable in our own vulnerability. * Gazelles also represent your inner soal.


Once you learn to work with these animals, things will start making a lot of since. I really must learn to work with mine more. My son has gone to "dream time". He has some great totem animals that have offered him some MAJOR assistance. It has been beautiful. They have always come to him when he is in need of comfort.


Main reason I gave this information to you was to point out that for you to see your totem animals is a very large message from them asking you to take note of what they are bringing forth. You are quite enlightened and lucky at that!


Here's a quick link to a list of animals of course you can find much more in depth description whilst searching. I simply must go find the page i did my research on for my son. Once I find it, I'll post it to you.

Power Animals


As far as "Zadok" goes. There was definently a strong link between your partner and you for "Zadok" to make a connection however since you both were spiritually connecting at the same time; your combined energy was more than likely very very strong. Because of this, it was only natural that "Zadok" could work through the two of you. To bad it wasn't pursued before you and your partner split. I wouldn't be discouraged though. Ask "Zadok" to return if he or she has full and good intentions and would benefit you solely. It may not be an immediate response but if you spend time on it and it was meant for you to receive more, you will get it.

"Zadok" very well may have been the character chosen to move you into your next stage of enlightenment. You did say that this event solidified the existence of 'the other side' for you, correct? It's wrather funny how the "other side" works sometimes and sometimes they do it in the most interesting ways!


GOOD LUCK TO YA.

CFP - thank you so much for your response. I suppose I could have done some research on my own to find some of this information, but I like the personal touch of someone with experience.

The 'Dream Time' with the animal visions was done while awake. I can snap into a dream in an instant and get a vision. My energy has to be just right, but I could get there in a minute or so. I've had so many varying experiences, this site is a real blessing to bounce these around. Sometimes I'd see lions and gazelles together, the lions watching over the gazelles, protecting them as they graze - i definitely got this sense, they were not threatening, but protective of the gazelles. What about this - sometimes I can look at a person and get a flash of an animal's head sort of overlaying theirs - would that be their totem? Goats sometimes come up then. And Gazelles. Have not seen any lions that way.

Another animal experience I had - this is not a dream: one day I was walking home from a nearby park and there was an old delapetated shack of a house with a 100'foot long driveway and a large black dog chained to a stake in the carport area. The dog was mean. I sensed it - to me it seemed posessed. As I walked past, the dog REALLY barked at me, I mean REALLY, snarling and salivating - I felt like it would definitely attack if it had a chance. I was in an 'energy' state as I walked and calmly looked over to the dog and whispered 'Silence'. The dog look like it got punched in the muzzle, jumped up in the air and twirled around.....and fell silent. This was really neat. I knew it was not necessarily 'me' making this happen, more like me channeling energy and focusing it. I have not since had an experience like that, but I guess I haven't tried - I've been less experimental in the last few years. I know it's there, but haven't dived in.

Thanks again for your insights! I'd love to talk about more things. Thank you too Billy for your experience. This helps me and I think I'll try some more things out.

[CFPurpose]

Hiya JMan. Oooh, so much to comment on.

Originally Posted by JMan

The 'Dream Time' with the animal visions was done while awake. I can snap into a dream in an instant and get a vision. My energy has to be just right, but I could get there in a minute or so.

I have always been in awe of this ability. I can only receive visions through meditation and I'm still no expert. The ones I have received have always been quite significant though, I'll tell ya that! Dreams are another thing all together. lol

Originally Posted by JMan

Sometimes I'd see lions and gazelles together, the lions watching over the gazelles, protecting them as they graze - i definitely got this sense, they were not threatening, but protective of the gazelles. .

This is why I linked your vision so closely to dream time. In "dream time" there is not the natural predator vs. prey theme. All of the animals seem to be in complete peace with one another. This is because they exist in a different spirit realm where there is no need to prey after one another. This is my perception anyway. They work hand in hand to assist the person they were blessed to take care of. Each time my son has visited "dream time" has been during meditation. (He is only 7 but has known how to meditate without ever being shown. I was shocked the first time I started a med. tape and he laid back, crossed his arms and suddenly was in his own little world. He did not fall asleep but came out of it to tell me of where he had journeyed!) Each time he has described a beautiful garden with extremely bright colors. There is a pond and beautiful animals lying around it. They communicate to him without speaking (telepathically) and he said he felt completely safe there. He has been asking me to purchase small replicas of his totem animals which I plan on doing shortly. I assume I'll also purchase a shelf to go above his bed where they can sit above him as an extra added since of safety.

Originally Posted by JMan

What about this - sometimes I can look at a person and get a flash of an animal's head sort of overlaying theirs - would that be their totem? Goats sometimes come up then. And Gazelles. Have not seen any lions that way..

Now this phenomenon interests me to no end. I've been trying to find someone else who has even a close experience to what my mother has experienced throughout her life and have yet to encounter someone. Your rendition is a bit different from hers though but borders closely. My mother has seen individuals whose faces morph into that of something like an animal (she can't distinct which one) or a lizard. She described it to me like you did, "somewhat overlaying theirs." I truly wonder what that is?! Wish I knew. I'm just floored someone else has came forward with something similar. I will definitely relay this to her. At least she'll know she's not alone... now if we only knew the reason for it or what it meant.


As far as your dog story goes; I very much enjoyed reading it. You have the gift of communicating with animals. Everyone does, just some of us are more in-tune with it. I have this too. I on the other hand have never tried calming a hysterical dog with that ability... oh no, I just ran the other way!! lol. Did you know that this ability can be used with all animals, reptiles, birds, ect? I have 2 beloved Ball Pythons. I've had them since they were babies. 1 is about 3 1/2ft long, the other is smaller, about 2' longer. Anyway, sorry, proud mommy, I always boast over them.. As I was saying My youngest son and I talk to them all the time telepathically. We can call them and they pop their heads up in our direction. The smallest snake received his name while I was asking him telepathically what his name was. I heard "Alex" clear as day and that is what is has always been from that day forward. My youngest son tells me he has "snake medicine" and anyone else who gets amused with his relationship with them. lol. He is only 3. I assume he grabbed the term from me when I was joking around one day. The communication is great. Snakes are highly sensitive animals anyway so I've found communication with them to be the most rewarding.