Really bad dreams of beings.

[Painter]

Hi everyone. I have a 2 dreams experiences I have never discussed with anyone before. I would like to get some ideas about them if anyone has any clues. I have studied dream interpretation and I've also studied the occult in my past and know about other occult theories for this. I know all about lucid nightmares too. I've heard it all before. However I find it so hard to believe these two dreams were "just dreams." Yet, that doesn't mean I'm not open to listening because believe me, I really wish I didn't believe they were real.

Dream 1 happened when I was around 28 years old.
I'm in bed and I start to float. Not my astral body, my physical body. I feel a lot of pressure on my thrid eye and feel hands on my ankles and wrists. Also on my back as if someone was holding me above the bed. I did the struggling thing to talk and see and couldn't. Then after some struggle I was able to open my eyes. In the dark but by the light of the street light outside, I saw 3 to 5 beings rush out the bedroom door. They were mubbling something about me waking up and then fled. I awoke on top of the covers.

Dream 2 happened when I was around 38 years old.
I was spending the week at my cousins. I was sleeping in her sons room. I told her I slept with a small lamp on because I often had to visit the bathroom in the middle of the night and ask her not to turn it off. I also left the door opened. Once again a street light was casting a little light on the room. I was asleep and woke to feel someone very large sitting on the side of the bed next to my leg. I couldn't move but could see it was tall and had a strange smell. It was all black and I do not remember seeing eyes.
I saw its shadow move its hands up around my neck. It began to strangle me. I fought to move. I remember thinking, this is not a lucid dream, this is real. I decided to fight. I did fight it off and made a loud sound as I jumped from the bed and grabbed a tennis racket hanging on the wall. I saw this thing back up into the darkness of a corner. Then I yelled at and it came back towards me. By this time I had woke up the dog in the house and he was barking in the other room and woke my cousin up. She and her husband came rushing through the door which was closed. Remember I left the door open and light on. When they turnned on the light it was gone. I had two finger bruises on my neck for days.

[Cuddles444]

Hi there,
sounds like you frighted yourself. Floating is not that uncommon.
E.g. St Francis of Assisi used to float when he meditated and prayed. His cohorts would have to hold him down. When we have unusual experiences the mind fills in the gaps. If we are fearful it will produce something like what you experienced. There may have been an outside disturbance which set the dog off and it pulled you out of a nightmare at the sametime. The astral doesn't touch on the physical in that way and the bruises on your neck would have been self inflicted, probably while you were dreaming.
Hope this helps.

[theuprising]

Originally Posted by Cuddles444

Hi there,
sounds like you frighted yourself. Floating is not that uncommon.
E.g. St Francis of Assisi used to float when he meditated and prayed. His cohorts would have to hold him down. When we have unusual experiences the mind fills in the gaps. If we are fearful it will produce something like what you experienced. There may have been an outside disturbance which set the dog off and it pulled you out of a nightmare at the sametime. The astral doesn't touch on the physical in that way and the bruises on your neck would have been self inflicted, probably while you were dreaming.
Hope this helps.

Not sure about this certain case, but astral beings CAN cause physcial injury

[Painter]

The astral doesn't touch on the physical in that way and the bruises on your neck would have been self inflicted, probably while you were dreaming.
Yes. That is what I believed then about touch and astral beings. I wasn't really that bothered as much by dream number 1. But dream number 2 was another story. Of course I could have injured myself. I was swinging a racket and screaming at one point. I was living through a stressful time of life at that moment and felt powerless in most things. I had played the victim in many cases and had been so passive that I had built up anger.

A few months before, I had begun alot of work to build my confidence and learned slowly how not to be the victim. I remember thinking during that time that I had to be super strong. In turn I think its possible that this could have caused the dream/experience.

Even though there is a part of me that will always view it as real, I cannot say that I did not cause it myself. Perhaps some part of my psyche was resisting the changes my growth toward self-reliance was bringing. Or one more theory is it was actually welcoming it and the dream was just symbolic of death or the "victim" in me dying.

I do know that dream was the starting point for new path. I grew and felt better about myself after that. Positivity began to cover more of my life and the negatives began to wane. I have come to believe that although the experience was very very real to me, it was my own creation all the same.

[Painter]

When we have unusual experiences the mind fills in the gaps.

That would explain feeling hands on my ankles, wrist and back. I feel that I'm floating so my logial mind tells me something must be holding me up. Then the fear of that fact may have created the feeling of hands. Which in turn had to be attached to some kind of body.

I've have read that in extreme cases the mind can even cause bruises. Although I'm not saying thats what happened. The bruises did look like finger marks but that doesn't prove I was visited in the night by some dark being.
These are the only dreams I have ever had like this. Most of my dreams are forgetable. A few are about people I don't know. Thats it.

[Painter]

You are attracting these beings because of having a fear of darkness and having a fear of being possessed or restricted by beings in the lower astral world.

MI Beloved,
I'm sorry, I should have pointed out that these dreams were years ago.
The 2nd one happened 11 years ago. I have researched, consulted others and racked my brain looking for an answer. So while life is nothing like it was then, I am still so curious about it.

I liked your post because I do know of what you speak. And at that time I was cleansing myself of some bad emotions and even some people in my life. I was shifting into a lighter place, so to speak out of need. Once I began to grow and learn more about positivity and how to both bring it into my life and use it to protect myself, my whole life changed. I have never really feared that this would happen again.

[MiBeloved]

So if it happens again what will you do? How different would be your response?

It can happen again despite your distance from it now.

So if you develop a meditation process, you would prepare yourself to deal with the situation.

Bad things rarely happen in the good part of town, but on occasion they do.

[Painter]

Thanks so much for your help.
I do some light meditation. But I am not well trained. I seem to be able to use other things in my life that help though. Walks in the forest. Communication with animals and the earth etc. But you have moved me to pursue it on a bigger scale. I do have a question for you. I recently ordered both a yoga meditation C.D. by someone I can't remember at the moment and a Ti Chi set by David Caridine. I also have The Celestine Vision meditations on C.D.

Do you think one of those would be a good start?
I have learned shielding since this experience, and can also guard my aura to a certain degree. I know about attachments too. But I also know I need a lot more work and experience. I spent many years in witchcraft practice and while I learned a lot and was quite good at it, my energy began to shift about 5 years ago. All of a sudden I no longer wanted to pursue it. Although looking back I feel as if my ego lead me there out of frustration with life and wanting to find a way to have power. I'm more mature now and realize those were not good reasons. My energy is no longer compatible with it. I felt strongly that I was meant for other things.

Just in the last few years I have begun to walk in another direction. Please allow me to point out that I'm being critical to anyone who is pagan or a witch. For many it is their life path. I'm only saying that at that point it was my path and now its not. Most pagans would say if that's they way I feel then I was on the wrong path to start with. I did learn a lot about energy work, healing and astral studies then, so I believe I was meant to be where I was then. But my course, my path and my mind and body are different know.

You also ask me what I would do if it did happen again. I really feel that I would not be in the dark as I was before. I believe I would know what was happening and fight it as I did before but with much less fear. Ya know, once something is exposed, be it a being or something deep within my mind, one tends to be less fearful. But remember, I didn't just lay there at take it with the second dream. I got up and fought. In my heart I can't say for sure what this was, but I will say it was a changing moment.

[MiBeloved]

You are attracting these beings because of having a fear of darkness and having a fear of being possessed or restricted by beings in the lower astral world.
You can take care of all this if you take up a regiment of meditation.

One important thing is to realise that the astral world is quite similar to this world, in the sense that if you go to a bad part of town in the middle of the night, it is likely that you will be mugged. If you go to a better part of town, it is likely that no one will interfere with you.

But the other take on this is that the muggers and other criminal elements in the physical and in the astral world, are also living beings like anybody else and for that reason there is really no cause to fear any of them.

Question is what do they want from you?

If someone mugs you for money, then he needs cash.

If someone does it just for the sake of cruelty, then he need psychological help. So when you begin to see things in that way, the whole ball game changes.

Take up meditation practice and you will get over the hump.

[Painter]

Sorry to keep posting but I forgot to answer this question that you ask.

Question is what do they want from you?
Funny you should ask that because that was my first question upon awaking. The first dream, when I felt 3 to 5 beings there, did feel as if they were "up to something", so to speak. Yet I felt the did not suceed at their goal because of the way they ran out.
The second dream was more sinister and scary. This thing wanted me dead.

[MiBeloved]

Why would it want you to be dead?

Usually that would be only if the being was taking revenge for something you did or something someone related to you did to it or to a relation of it.

But it could be that the being wanted energy, positive energy, a higher vibration of energy for healing itself or for elevating itself from a lower astral existence.

[Painter]

I see. So it could be the being wanted my energy so to speak. And as far as me doing something to someone, I am not innocent by far, but I was working toward light and positivity at that moment. Which was the opposite of what had begun to show in the people I was around. I don't want to blame them because that's just giving them power over me. I would like to think it was my fear of what they were getting into and how I knew I could not go there. As far as power, it is not something I seek now. I have learned and seen how it can corrupt when used for self. That was only in the beginning of my journey and it was not the correct reason for my actions and decisions at the time.

Although, I get the sense that you are sensing something deep within me that may still want power to some degree. Which has made me start to re-think my motives at this point. What I am really seeking at this point is a complete cleansing of the negatives I have picked up on my journey. Because I know they hold me back from my purpose. I'm a newbie with looking at things from this view. I have learned a lot but so glad you are pointing me towards learning it from another direction.

[MiBeloved]

Try meditation to reach your previous existences.

That will give some deep insight into why you took this body and what you should be doing and it will also cause you to backtrack into your subconscious, so that you may get some connection with the spiritual progress you made before.

[Painter]

I will take that step on your advice. I thank you for your time and energy toward my problem. I'm hoping that soon I will be coming into this board with many positive things to tell of.

[nicbrahms]

Spooky dreams, they reminded me of something I had that is similar.

When I was quite young, possibly around 8. I was sleeping with my dad and I remember coming awake and I could hear shuffling in the room. I observed 5 dwarf like entities coming toward the bed from the door. They were eerie and odd looking. They clambered over my dad who was fast asleep and proceeded to surround me. At the time I was alarmed but in a state of stunned detachment. Oddly, they began showing me number plates, or something that looked like number plates. Either way the plates had writing on them and they were asking me what they said not verbally but telepathically.

I answered, very scared by this stage, I then couldn't contain my fear and could no longer answer and they became menacing and closed in on me, I screamed at the top of my voice and tried to crawl into my dad's back, he awoke and picked me up and ran downstairs with me cause I wouldn't stop screaming.

I remember returning to the bedroom and observing that my slippers which were usually under the cot in the room had moved to the side of the bed, I hadn't put them there.

Funny thing is now that in my signs from the universe, I observe number plates habitually, I can't help it. I also have an idetic memory for number plates and can remember if I have seen one before however briefly or fleetingly.

How weird is that, the more I think about it, I know I was not dreaming.

Also another dream/nightmare I had was involving my mothers cupboard in her room, it was yellow and built into the corner of the bedroom. I used to dream it would open and a procession of something would come marching toward me. They would come forever closer and they were menacing, and no matter what I could never fathom what they were. And a weird sensation passed over my body, I have recently been experiencing that sensation since my spiritual growth. I have, I think, nailed it to my reptilian mind asserting itself in some way. It is too hard to describe, however, no matter what I do I can not figure out or even see what this procession of beings is, I sometimes think I get close but it always alludes me last minute.

Now these dreams used to spook the crap out of me, but now I delve and try to figure out what they are. I now think the entities with the number plates were a precursor of a habit I developed now, in my number plate memory.

Very odd, any thoughts anyone?

[MiBeloved]

Both dreams are really astral experiences with being from adjacent astral worlds. The main problem with this kind of experience is that if you do not understand that it is astral and if you do not know that such encounters are normal in the lower astral existence, your mind will form its own conclusions which might be erroneous.

Then that will cause a sort of freak out, fear or misunderstanding and it might cause your astral projection experiences to go into the subconscious phase of your mind, which means that you will not be conscious as in lucid dreaming and astral projection.

In the second dream those things in the procession which you could not figure out were gnomes. They usually act like that but with no intention to harm anyone. There used to be many human beings in UK and in Europe who were related to these gnomes and who has dwarflike bodies. After medical science advanced, doctors to steps to wipe out these gnome people but they still exist in the astral world in an adjacent dimension. They hang around organic gardens, kitchens where organic food is cooked and cupboards which are made of old wood.

In the first experience those beings were also there except that you misunderstood their actions. Usually they want children to play with them in the astral world when children are sleeping but if you don’t want to play with them then they might do something annoying like running over your Dad. Sometimes they stay in a room where an old man sleeps and snores or where an old lady stays.

Then they greet these souls when their bodies finally leave the physical side for good.

These gnomes are not harmful to human beings and they do not have enough supernatural power to overpower a human being or even a human child but if you misunderstand them, your mind will freak out anyway.

I would suggest for you also a meditation regiment. To get some idea about it you can check out my recent book. See the Web address below.

There is another thing though, which is that you should check out Findhorn Community, Findhorn fairies on the Web. That is a spiritual community in Scotland. They specialize in contacting these types of beings
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Here is the address to my recent book:

https://sites.google.com/site/michae...tion-pictorial