Difference between psychic abilities and creation?

[themaster]

Here's my conundrum I haven't even tried to ask my teacher but..

What is the difference between psychic abilities and creation?

I've had several weird, circumstances that I couldn't exactly tell if it was precognition or creation.. I mean I know I'm maybe making a difference here when there is none to be made..

I'll give you a feel examples of weird things in my reality..

Last night I went to Boston Market and I have coupons I carry around with me to use to save money.. anyway.. I hand over this new coupon that I just got that is $5 of that I have probably used at least twice in the past 4 days..

Right then and there when I hand it over to the lady I read the expiration date and it's the 18th and as she's taking it I pull out my phone to see what date it is and it's like 22nd.. so I know the coupons expired, now..

Anyway.. she goes to ring it up and unlike other coupons I use this one is like a hard one to find in the computer.. so she just says "it's expired" now I know that I've had other boston markets probably take this coupon in the last few days.. so I think super weird.. and I switch coupons..

One other weird thing happened.. I went to go get my plate cause it took her a while to ring it up (like 2-5 minutes over the expired coupon fiasco ) and I wonder since I’m waiting if she's put silverware on my plate cause you know sometimes they forget.. so within 5 seconds of this thought I see her grab silverware and throw it on my tray.. I walk over and now see 2 silverwares on my tray.. and I just laugh inside.. cause it's all very amusing

One other experience I had was my alternator belt went out on my car and before it happened I started thinking about my car and it needing love and validating a experience of replacing it.. and then you know 10 minutes later stuck on the side of the road..

So I say again what is the difference between creation and psychic abilities.. is there a point to making a difference?

I figure since we have psychics in here.. maybe they can help me out.. my teacher is teaching me to be psychic for whatever reason.. so I'm not saying I get messages clear or anything.. I'm just saying that's what's going on

[Anagogy]

Honestly, I don't think one can happen without the other to at least some small degree.

I believe it's possible to certainly read dominant probability vortices, but even in the observation of said vortices there is a slight energizing of the potential of that vortice.

I think it all depends on the quality of the clairvoyance being introduced. A "crude" level of clairvoyance will result in more changes in the current as a result of observing the probability current.

It's the subtlety of the clairvoyance that just reads and doesn't alter. It takes a kind of mental "silence". Kinda like, holding one's breath mentally. That's the only way I can describe it. And still, even then, I think it probably not just "pure observation".

[Mynder]

I believe that in this "holographic virtuality" (what we usually call physical reality), there is an infinity of "realities", where every decision, every agreement, every outcome is already existant.

Yes, this was created by our consciousness(es).

I also believe the difference between creating and sensing/seeing different realities is pretty much nonexistant.

Say, for example, you have a dream. And you dream of a strange land with strange people, and wondrous laws of nature. Where does it come from? Did you just create it by dreaming it, or did you visit a land that was already there?

Is there truly a difference?

Remember, outside of this reality, there is no linear time. If we think a thought, imagine something, it exists. If you look "into the box" from the "outside", it thus is as though it had always existed. There is no linear time to measure a "before". It simply gets added to the "playing field" that we create with our consciousness. And in this way, there is no difference between creating and "visiting".

The same goes for the Law of Attraction. Do we create different life circumstances by attracting them into our lives? Or do we choose a path along an infinity of pre-existing realities? Again...is there really, truly, a difference?

I hope you can make sense of what I write, and that it resonates with you.

[themaster]

Well, you just sound like me

Sorry, doesn't really answer my question..

[Mynder]

Well, would it help you much if I simply stated: there is none?

[themaster]

I can accept that.. see got that in my post

[Mynder]

It all depends on perspective. You might prefer to think of it as creating the reality around you, or just sensing/choosing the path through pre-existing realities.

The only difference is time (i.e. are you at a point in time before or after the events/circumstances/realities are created?). And as I said before...time is not part of the outside reality in the same way as it is here, so separating the two may or may not be pointless. Again, depending only on your point of view.

[Mynder]

Originally Posted by themaster

Well, you just sound like me

Honestly, I did notice that in my thinking. I used to think you were definitely in another reality than most of us...but lately, much of what you say starts making sense to me.

That would be almost frightening if it weren't involved with what I consider personal growth and expanding my own model of reality.

[Dharma]

Originally Posted by themaster

So I say again what is the difference between creation and psychic abilities.. is there a point to making a difference?

I figure since we have psychics in here.. maybe they can help me out.. my teacher is teaching me to be psychic for whatever reason.. so I'm not saying I get messages clear or anything.. I'm just saying that's what's going on

If I can think of it, feel it, sense it, I've already created it. And nothing will fall into my senses "before" I've created it.

See creation as a bunch of spooled films stacked on top of one another. While experiencing what one film is like you can browse the others by a shift in focus (much like direct access for hard drives). If you choose that reality (un/consciously), that reality slides into your experience and the awareness "before" seems like a premonition. But, it's not.

[Darren]

From the Sufi:

Mullah Nasrudin once entered a store and asked the proprietor, "Have you ever seen me before?"

"No," was the prompt answer.

"Then," cried Nasrudin, "how do you know it is me?"

[theuprising]

Originally Posted by Mynder

I believe that in this "holographic virtuality" (what we usually call physical reality), there is an infinity of "realities", where every decision, every agreement, every outcome is already existant.

Yes, this was created by our consciousness(es).

I also believe the difference between creating and sensing/seeing different realities is pretty much nonexistant.

Say, for example, you have a dream. And you dream of a strange land with strange people, and wondrous laws of nature. Where does it come from? Did you just create it by dreaming it, or did you visit a land that was already there?

Is there truly a difference?

Remember, outside of this reality, there is no linear time. If we think a thought, imagine something, it exists. If you look "into the box" from the "outside", it thus is as though it had always existed. There is no linear time to measure a "before". It simply gets added to the "playing field" that we create with our consciousness. And in this way, there is no difference between creating and "visiting".

The same goes for the Law of Attraction. Do we create different life circumstances by attracting them into our lives? Or do we choose a path along an infinity of pre-existing realities? Again...is there really, truly, a difference?

I hope you can make sense of what I write, and that it resonates with you.

Hah this is the conclusion I came up with, trying to figure out why things exist as they are, and decided to take quantum theory and apply it to the universe.

Quantum theory that an electron does not locate in x, y, and z until you send a probe in to see where it is. It exists in a wave of all of its possible locations and is dependent on the probe to exist in ONE location.

Now lets take that to the universe, the universe exists as a wave of all possibilities, of infinity. Period. It only has a location in x, y, z, and time because we are looking at it in a certain way.