Little Freak Out Over Xmas Dinner

[Michelle]

While sitting happily and peacefully over this year's Christmas fondue with my husband, I had an experience I'd like to share and hopefully get some feedback on.

In one instant I felt my physical body go weak, then a surge of energy rush through my body which I could feel flow from the tip of my toes to the top of my head, then I turned hot and red, my heart raced for a few seconds and then I was fine. The whole thing lasted maybe one minute or 90 seconds. Even though I was able to surrender myself and allow that moment, it totally freaked me out.

I had been meditating somewhat intensively for two days (perhaps about 12 hours total) with angels and crystals and working on opening myself further, so it wouldn't surprise me if some release took place. Since then, I have been feeling very well. It just freaks me out to be sitting peacefully over dinner and then suddenly to have this rush of energy wash through me.

[codenamesmiley]

Ok,

I am going to be rational here, and assume that there could be a physical reason for this phenomena. If you smoke cigarettes, or take birth control, (or both) I would listen to me.

You could have had a "warning stroke" or some other ischemic happening. Please do not assume that because you have been feeling well, that this cannot happen to you. What is the health history genetically? Parents, grandparents..does stroke run in your family? Blood clots? Veinous malformations or diseases. Be vigilant about physical health concerns first.

Please see your doctor to eliminate some possible health issue that could be much worse when it hits you again, before assuming it is connected to paranormal phenomena.

I have never personally had a "release" like you describe. I am not sure if others have, but I am sure we will eventually see it here, if that is the case.

I wish you well, and hope it isn't something serious.

Blessings,
Rebecca

[Michelle]

Thank you for your thoughts, Rebecca. While I do not smoke or take birth control pills, I have had a few "energetic incidents" which do indeed sometimes make me question my physical health and/or sanity. I rarely go to the doctor, but perhaps this would be the right occasion. I will meditate on my physical health, and see what comes up.

[codenamesmiley]

Michelle,

I don't particularly like doctors either..but they saved my life. I ad an AVM and aneurysm in my brain. It was neck pain that I could no longer endure, that got me in for the original testing that "incidentally" showed these baddies that my life was in danger. (I went in prepared to get neck surgery..not life-saving brain surgery, out of the deal)


Blessings,
Rebecca

[Maxwell Jennings]

Before you check with your doctor, take notes on which foods and other consumables you were having at the time and even prior to that episode. Even if it's stuff you've ingested previously in your life, you could have a more age-pronounced allergic reaction to something you normally don't eat/drink. I have more allergies now than when I was younger, but never the symptoms you described.

I try to pass on things that contain MSG, and I've noticed that eating something as simple as spiced corn chips will make me extremely tired within minutes and even give me a headache. Most processed foods contain MSG -- including broth, stuffing, and anything labeled with "other spices". MSG whacks out neurotransmitters in the brain.

A few other things to consider would include what Rebecca mentioned. If you felt it on one side only or on one side more than the other, then a mini stroke could be the culprit. Check for other sensations since that event such as numbness in your arms or legs. Strokes usually cause paralysis in that side of the body controlled by the injured brain hemisphere, but a mini stroke can happen with mild symptoms. Any dizzy spells since? The best emergency treatment for a stroke is to take an aspirin and seek immediate medical attention.

The descriptions described could also be the symptoms of a pinched nerve somewhere along your spine, most likely starting up high to affect everything downward. If you do yoga or other types of stretching often, then a pinched nerve is less likely to be the cause. Even if you don't normally do stretching, doing so now can help align your spine. A chiropractic adjustment will do that too.

If unexplainable and it was purely paranormal, then hopefully it is something very positive and congratulations would be in order!

From an EIT perspective, I would ask questions about what you were thinking or talking about right before your experience to see if anything might have triggered a clearable scenario.

[Plays With Life]

Originally Posted by Michelle

While sitting happily and peacefully over this year's Christmas fondue with my husband, I had an experience I'd like to share and hopefully get some feedback on.

In one instant I felt my physical body go weak, then a surge of energy rush through my body which I could feel flow from the tip of my toes to the top of my head, then I turned hot and red, my heart raced for a few seconds and then I was fine. The whole thing lasted maybe one minute or 90 seconds. Even though I was able to surrender myself and allow that moment, it totally freaked me out.

I had been meditating somewhat intensively for two days (perhaps about 12 hours total) with angels and crystals and working on opening myself further, so it wouldn't surprise me if some release took place. Since then, I have been feeling very well. It just freaks me out to be sitting peacefully over dinner and then suddenly to have this rush of energy wash through me.

I've had what I think was a very similar experience. Down to the 60-90 seconds bit. It was this really intense "flowing" sensation, hot, as though there was some energy just rushing through my entire body at high speed. It happened when I was just sitting in the waiting room of a veterinarian, and I just let it happen, then it was over. I didn't know what to make of it. It was also during a time when I was doing things that were pushing me to open energetically. I wondered whether it was an experience of "stretching my energy capacity".

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by Michelle

I had been meditating somewhat intensively for two days (perhaps about 12 hours total)

That IS quite intense and it would not be surprising to me at all if your episode was somehow linked to your meditation sessions.

[themaster]

According to what I'm reading.. "energy" is being sent on a massive scale for change.. aka. what we call "the shift" sometimes.. could have been that.. or your energy work.. doesn't matter..

I would be bothered by it.. I'd expect more of it

And I certainly wouldn't bother with ideas of physical health or bad chemicals.. if you understand like I do.. that we create our own reality.. you should realize that our bodies can transmute and repair any disease we allow..

Anything else is just buying more into the fear systems of our planet.. I'm not saying don't see a doctor.. I'm just saying at your level you probably ought to be able to avoid doctors etc. and instead get guidance from within about healing..

[Michelle]

Thank you all for your replies. Honestly, I don't think that assuming the worst is the best approach in life. At most, I ate too many cookies during Christmas and my body reacted to them. Perhaps I should clarify as well - I wasn't dizzy and the feelings were not limited to one side of my body. My husband and I eat natural foods, however, over the past days we were guests and it is possible/probable that we were served something less than natural. These little energetic incidents often happen over food around dinner time, whether I am actually eating it or not.

I've realized a couple things. My ego wants me to believe there is something wrong with my body, because my ego is in serious danger at the moment. It wants me to think I am dying, because it actually is dying. There is no reason I would attract physical illness into my life at the moment. To attract physical illness would mean there is some lesson I have neglected a lesson to the point where it manifests into something large or that my higher self decided to give me an illness because I am bored and need a challenge. Neither are the case at the moment.

Much more, I have been courageously confronting and releasing large amounts of fear during meditation. I've been feeling and seeing myself unblocking, shedding a cocoon and ready for more love in my life.

I think the flow was indeed the unblocking of some energy. Over the past couple days I have had two large emotional releases (lots of crying, old sadness and pain) which could have been set off by the energetic release within the body. In a way it makes sense - If you make great strides during meditation you have to give the physical and emotional bodies a chance to catch up.

And truthfully, I did get some guidance (which I ignored out of laziness!!!) to go running this past week. Perhaps if I had given my physical body the chance to release this excess energy through sports, there would have been no great release at the dinner table. I don't know.

Incidentally, I woke up last night around 2 am and felt my head all hot again and the energy flowing freely and rapidly through my body. It was scary at the first moment, but I surrendered to it and fell back asleep. Afterwards, I had a very positive and healthy dream.

Plays With Life - Did you experience any after effects to that incident? Did you experience it only once or many times? How is your health (if I may be so nosy...)?

[Merrick1]

Michelle:

"I think the flow was indeed the unblocking of some energy."

As a meditation teacher and also translator on foreign teachers' meditation retreats, my experience is that such sensations are a common experience of people who meditate intensely. Canadian Buddhist monk U Vansa calls them "rupture".

Merrick

[Michelle]

Originally Posted by Merrick1

Michelle:

"I think the flow was indeed the unblocking of some energy."

As a meditation teacher and also translator on foreign teachers' meditation retreats, my experience is that such sensations are a common experience of people who meditate intensely. Canadian Buddhist monk U Vansa calls them "rupture".

Merrick

Interesting. Is there anywhere you can point me where to read more about this? I googled Bhante U Vansa and found very little ...

[carenkh]

Have you looked into kundalini? That's what it sounds like to me - kundalini awakening.

I've had something similar happen before; once it was followed by increased ease and flow in my life, I was in a happier place than I ever had been. I used to suffer from fairly severe depression, since that episode, I have not been depressed at all. A little down at times, but never depressed like I had been. That's been several years ago.

Another time it was followed by realizing and getting blindsided by very painful childhood memories, that I had successfully blocked up 'til then. That was a hard period of several months, where I was basically the walking wounded, very vulnerable.

Each time I believe it was physical realignment to energetic changes. Blockages were unblocked, things were flowing and clearing.

The first time it happened was preceded by a huge black snake finding and killing a bird in my eaves. The snake just coiled around and killed a mama bird, then dropped her to the ground and ate her eggs. I tried to get it to stop, I was out there on a chair with a broom! And after it happened, I sobbed and sobbed and sobbed. Oh, and a day or two before THAT happened, I had been book shopping, and a copy of Caroline Myss' Anatomy of the Spirit had fallen off a shelf and hit me in my head! Of course I bought it! So, while I was crying about the bird, I came to know that the snake was symbolic, and had to do with the book I had just gotten.

Sometimes it takes a lot to get my attention!

[Michelle]

Originally Posted by carenkh

Have you looked into kundalini? That's what it sounds like to me - kundalini awakening.

Thank you for your thoughts, Caren. Yes, I think you are right about that. I've tended to stay away from that term (labels, you know), but in essence, Kundalini is probably what it is.

I've had something similar happen before; once it was followed by increased ease and flow in my life, I was in a happier place than I ever had been. I used to suffer from fairly severe depression, since that episode, I have not been depressed at all. A little down at times, but never depressed like I had been. That's been several years ago.

Yes. Your experience sounds similar to mine. I also used to be very depressed, but let that go quite a while ago. I assume that destructive energy was simply released at some point.

The first time a profound energetic incident happened I went to the hospital in the middle of the night, was given a sleeping pill, and sent home. I woke a few hours later and the process simply picked up where it left off. Since then I've learned to more or less let the process run its course when it comes.

Over the past years I've learned to notice the subtle flow of energy through my body every day. Some releases are quiet and barely noticeable, others extremely powerful and almost violent in nature. The most powerful are very cleansing, positive and freeing in the end, but very scary at their most intense moments. This particular shift is full of fear for me, but I suppose I will be that much lighter of fear in the end.

It does seem that after a certain period of energetic work (in my case through meditation), there is a climax or birthing process one goes through in order to reach the next "level", so to speak.

Lately, I feel as though destiny is knocking at my door and there is almost nothing to be done about it. I can either go willingly or kicking and screaming. ARGHHHHHHH.

The first time it happened was preceded by a huge black snake finding and killing a bird in my eaves. The snake just coiled around and killed a mama bird, then dropped her to the ground and ate her eggs. I tried to get it to stop, I was out there on a chair with a broom! And after it happened, I sobbed and sobbed and sobbed. Oh, and a day or two before THAT happened, I had been book shopping, and a copy of Caroline Myss' Anatomy of the Spirit had fallen off a shelf and hit me in my head! Of course I bought it! So, while I was crying about the bird, I came to know that the snake was symbolic, and had to do with the book I had just gotten.

That is very interesting. Maybe I will check out that book. Just a few weeks ago a bird actually flew into my living room window (I live on the ground floor!) and lay bloody on my balcony for hours before finally hopping to a nearby tree. It upset me for a good day, and in the end I realized the bird was delivering a message and was an angel in disguise.

[codenamesmiley]

I have to agree with TheMaster, about healing ourselves. When I went in for the neck pain and they found the brain stuff, I was told it would be about two years for the radiosurgery to take effect...before I would be allowed to take the anesthesia for surgery. I was angry. I opted to begin meditation over the neck..and bonus..had pictures of it..so I knew exactly what I was aiming for.

When I finally got the "all clear" from the neurosurgeons about the brain thing...my neck was healed. I couldn't even get physical therapy..it was healed that good....so(while I still deal with mild arthritis pain...which is easy to rid ,the neck is straight and the disk tissue is actually full and aligned...where it is supposed to be.)

TheMaster is pretty dead on with the statement that we all have the power to heal any sickness. In hindsight, I wonder if I would have been able to heal myself, had I not had pictures of the neck to know exactly what changes I wanted made in there.

I have always been a firm believer of "The spirit controls the body, not the other way around." I am happy to see that I am not the only one that feels this way.

I still recommend doctors to others, because not everyone has the will or confidence or level of disgust it takes to drive them to heal themselves. I had to..because the doctors in my case...were just putting me off.

Kudos to anyone who can detect a problem and heal themselves. I still think that anyone capable of this, should still use doctors to get the physical pictures and proof that they can do this for themselves.

I have pictures. MRI's from 2006 and 2008 that show how much of a difference healing meditation can make. I think that having that physical confirmation of it, makes it easier to actually accept that YES, we CAN heal ourselves.

(But, if I had just focused on the neck..and not seen any doctor...and found this forum first...I would still have a timebomb ticking in my head..waiting to drop me like a fly in a raid storm...) so, see a doctor if there is any doubt.

Blessings,
Rebecca

[Plays With Life]

Originally Posted by Michelle

Plays With Life - Did you experience any after effects to that incident? Did you experience it only once or many times? How is your health (if I may be so nosy...)?

How dare you ask me about my health

Of course. The only after effect I remember was feeling sort of "lighter" than before, for a few days afterwards. I didn't have any health problems before or after the experience. It was several years ago, now. It only happened the one time. I mean, I guess I was experiencing little spurts here and there during that time. But this one was just off the scale. I was hoping the vet wouldn't come out and call me in during the experience, because I wasn't sure I would really be able to respond. Then it passed, and I felt great.

[Plays With Life]

Originally Posted by carenkh

Oh, and a day or two before THAT happened, I had been book shopping, and a copy of Caroline Myss' Anatomy of the Spirit had fallen off a shelf and hit me in my head! Of course I bought it!

carenkh - LOL. I bet Caroline would enjoy hearing that story

That's a great book.

[Plays With Life]

Originally Posted by Michelle

While sitting happily and peacefully over this year's Christmas fondue with my husband, I had an experience I'd like to share and hopefully get some feedback on.

I also wanted to add that the circumstances sound similar to mine, when this happened. I was just sitting, feeling pretty darn happy and peaceful. I wasn't thinking about anything in particular. The environment was just very relaxed, quiet and pleasant. There wasn't any event that I noticed, that might have triggered something. It was sort of just out of the blue.

[Dharma]

Originally Posted by Michelle

It just freaks me out to be sitting peacefully over dinner and then suddenly to have this rush of energy wash through me.

I've had that happen. Yeah it's beyond the mind and beyond the cause and effect we normally experience. Probably something moving on another dimension.

"Nothing to see here folks, we'll be done in a second, keep eating, everything's ok"

[Merrick1]

Michelle:

"Interesting. Is there anywhere you can point me where to read more about this? I googled Bhante U Vansa and found very little ..."

Michelle, I haven't come accross any written reference to this. Bhante U Vansa has been coming to my country every July for about two weeks for the past several years. And this year I translated for him. When he first mentioned the word "rupture", I didn't know how to translate it. I had had that experience in meditation too but I didn't know that it was what he was talking about. And he only mentioned it among other sensations. Only when I was translating individual interviews of the meditators with him and some of them mentioned having had this eperience during meditation, I understood the meaning of the word, in this context.

None of the buddhist monks or lay teachers, I' ve met, attached any great value to this kind of experience. It's all but sensations.

carenkh:

"Have you looked into kundalini? That's what it sounds like to me - kundalini awakening."


Of course, I also thought of kundalini, but from the buddhist point of view, kundalini is just a concept with no value. If you experience anything that may be called "raising of kundalini", this would also be included under the label "rupture". Similarly as feeling, cold, pain, stiffness,... whatever.

Merrick

[carenkh]

Originally Posted by Merrick1

None of the buddhist monks or lay teachers, I' ve met, attached any great value to this kind of experience. It's all but sensations.

carenkh:

"Have you looked into kundalini? That's what it sounds like to me - kundalini awakening."


Of course, I also thought of kundalini, but from the buddhist point of view, kundalini is just a concept with no value.

You know, I appreciate the buddhist point of view - and I used to believe I was wrong for attaching value to THINGS or SENSATIONS or FEELINGS. Then I realized - Screw that! I'm alive!! Fully alive. And I am not a Buddhist monk, mendicant, or ascetic.

I *love* funky sensations that come up when I meditate - or otherwise! I think they're very, very cool. I don't sit to get those sensations, but I appreciate them. And you know what else I love? Trader Joe's dark-chocolate-covered peppermint Joe Joes. I would make a very bad Buddhist monk. But I make a great me!

Bring on the bright lights and rushing energy!! Woo-hoo!!!

[Michelle]

Originally Posted by carenkh

You know, I appreciate the buddhist point of view - and I used to believe I was wrong for attaching value to THINGS or SENSATIONS or FEELINGS. Then I realized - Screw that! I'm alive!! Fully alive. And I am not a Buddhist monk, mendicant, or ascetic.

I *love* funky sensations that come up when I meditate - or otherwise! I think they're very, very cool. I don't sit to get those sensations, but I appreciate them. And you know what else I love? Trader Joe's dark-chocolate-covered peppermint Joe Joes. I would make a very bad Buddhist monk. But I make a great me!

Bring on the bright lights and rushing energy!! Woo-hoo!!!

Have you read "The F**k It Way" by John C. Parkin? Sounds like you'd love that book. I feel the same, by the way. I love physical reality and enjoying every sensual bit of it.

I am feeling better today, and starting to actually feel confident again. My third eye feels like it is expanding in a powerful way (as opposed to a soft and fuzzy way) and there is lots of energy and pressure behind it.

[Lil Chris]

Originally Posted by dharma

"nothing to see here folks, we'll be done in a second, keep eating, everything's ok"

lol...

[Michelle]

Originally Posted by Dharma

I've had that happen. Yeah it's beyond the mind and beyond the cause and effect we normally experience. Probably something moving on another dimension.

"Nothing to see here folks, we'll be done in a second, keep eating, everything's ok"

lol!

Do you mean something moving in me on another dimension, or something moving in general on another dimension? Am not sure why that would cause my energy to flow suddenly so strongly.

[sups]

hey Michelle,
hope you are doing well......maybe it was all that alcohol in the fondue...lol!
no, seriously I would type on Kundalini.

[Eddy Arroyo]

The grinch tried to take over your body and ruin christmas? lol jk . my opinion would be that a spiritual barrier/block was opened because of your meditation the day before and because the "spirit of christmas" was present

[Dharma]

Originally Posted by Michelle

lol!

Do you mean something moving in me on another dimension, or something moving in general on another dimension? Am not sure why that would cause my energy to flow suddenly so strongly.

The first one. Maybe label it: Your movement in another dimension as felt in the physical one.

The mind likes to panic when something happens and it can't figure out. One of my teachers tells me to say this to myself in these kinds of situations: "Everything's fine. I'm just moving. And if I need to move differently I'll let myself know."

[Michelle]

Originally Posted by sups

hey Michelle,
hope you are doing well......maybe it was all that alcohol in the fondue...lol!
no, seriously I would type on Kundalini.

LOL, actually we were eating a chinoise and I hadn't even taken one bite yet! Although I did have one sip of wine before the "incident" ...

If we had been eating cheese, I may not have even started this thread since it almost kills me every time. My friends and I call it "fondoom"