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Old 12-19-2009, 02:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello again everyone. This time I am certain I am being subject to some form of 'psychic spying'. Upon waking, I am hearing clear conversation amongst several people in reference to myself or activities. I am also concerned about their paying attention to my activities.

This is obviously a significant concern. Please advise if you are able..
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Perhaps you are either having hallucinations of some sort or you can hear things from "the other side"... This may not be as bad as you think it is, I'd try to get anwers if I were you, it is maybe your guides trying to contact you or discussing about you. It could actually be a lot of things, it doesn't mean someone is playing tricks on you or that it's bad !

You could maybe try to focus, ask questions and see if you get answers
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Hi modernthing, thank you for responding. I've considered psychological causes as these are the typical explanations for such matters. However, after more experiences and a lot of objective reflection I am very confident there is much more occurring here than simple hallucinations. If I were to detail the full extent of my experiences leading up to this point.. but I'd rather not - for privacy reasons.

I should mention this has come as quite a shock to me - as although I am open minded, I am also skeptical of these matters being they are not technically 'known'.

In any instance, I am very confident that these are people. And unfortunately I have not found many experiences I can relate to here at the forums, but this is the only place I can even imagine finding insight.

In addition to the statements directed at me, I am also experiencing tiny flashes of light - and I don't have any vision issues. These occur throughout the day. I feel they could be related.

I know there is much to be said for 'psychic research' on the fringes of human knowledge, but of course there is absolutely nothing mainstream. I would love to have a professional I could turn to, but so far as I know none exist. There simply is nothing in mainstream mind science regarding these matters, and conventional professionals will only declare a personal health problem.

Therefore, I'm open to any help I can receive here..

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Hello again everyone. This time I am certain I am being subject to some form of 'psychic spying'. Upon waking, I am hearing clear conversation amongst several people in reference to myself or activities. I am also concerned about their paying attention to my activities.

This is obviously a significant concern. Please advise if you are able..
Perhaps they are spiritual guides. What exactly do you hear? Is it positive or negative?
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As a person who has psychic gifts, as well as a person who is a survivor of a rather large AVM and aneurysm in my brain...I emplore you to consider a head ct, to eliminate the physical before assuming it is paranormal.

You could also be experiencing clairaudience. Either hearing spirit, ghosts, guides, angels, hearing spouse's dreams or thoughts, or it could be the brief moment from deep sleep to waking...that I refer to as "twilight" sleep. (I'm sure someone with a better vocabulary can call it something better. lol) You are at the stage of sleep where you are becoming consciously awake, but the sounds of the dream you were having is sort of smeared over ....like turning off the old overhead projector and turning on the lights, but merely turning down the soundtrack for a second before switching it off.

Yes, there are many things it could be. I hope your new journey is full of pleasant surprises.

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Hi codenamesmiley, your responses are helpful and appreciated.

I have experienced remnants of dreams during the 'twilight' stage before, and also what appeared to be statements directed at me.

I have also had CT & other medical reviews to no avail.

This problem is growing substantially for me, quickly, and seems serious. It appears to get worse as I attempt to investigate it.. occurring mainly at night whilst I try to sleep. It is essentially hatred being directed at me. I attempt to observe passively as best I can.

As I mentioned in the other thread, there appears to be a physical aspect to this. Small flashes/slashes in my vision field. I feel as though I am being physically attacked, and it occurs regularly.

In any instance, I can definitely see it is not possible for me to block this now, so somehow I must adjust.

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In any instance, I can definitely see it is not possible for me to block this now, so somehow I must adjust.
That's correct, just stay courageous.
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Hi anon09 -
Hearing 'people' discuss you is not uncommon; it is usually (barring any psychological issues) you hearing the 'other side', or hearing on an astral level.

It can be amusing to some; other can be distressed by it - depending on the circumstances and beings. Just like 'mean' people and 'nice' people here on Earth, so you have the same on astral and/or the other side.

One method I recommend is shielding (with white light) to keep 'negatives' at bay - and there are numerous methods out there (you can try mine - free podcast - shielding ) and can do this as often as you feel is needed.

You can also call on your guides, the Powers-That-Be to protect you.
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Old 12-21-2009, 04:57 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Sometimes right before sleep I'll get that too. I'll hear voices, like I'm tuning in to a radio station, only not. More like I'm getting a slice of someones life. If I focus on it, it's gone. Sometimes it has nothing to do with me. Sometimes it is directed at me from someone I know, I've also gotten some malevelant attention from I don't know what.

I don't have answers for you, but I have theories.

1-You could be catching someone's thoughts. I consider thoughts to be a form of energy, that can be sent to someone just by thinking about them. Mostly we fill our minds with thoughts, we are rarely mentally quiet, so these thought forms will hover around us until we are receptive to them, say as we are drifting to sleep, during sleep or as we wake up. So you could just be catching other peoples thoughts.


2- I've heard that there are other dimensions that we aren't consciously aware of but that we give off vibrations that can put us in tune with them. If you experience fear or hate. You draw that to you. If you experience love or joy, you will draw that to yourself. If there really are entities out there (ghosts I guess), they would be drawn to the energy that you're sending. If that's the case, I say that you should jettison all hatred and fear so that you don't bring that energy to yourself.

My advice, and this works for me, is to encase yourself in a protective bubble before going to sleep. Just 'know' that it is there and that you are safe. Let your last thought before sleep to be of something or someone you love.

Also next time you see the flashes of light send it love or just think thoughts of love. Seriously it will raise your vibration.

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Old 12-21-2009, 01:42 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Now it seems in addition to simple directed statements, there are also physical effects upon my body.

Does anyone have experience which implies some form of physical attack is possible? Or should I just chalk this up to anxiety or a nervous system reaction of some kind?
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what exactly did you get physically ??

Perhaps there's a bit of both, but as far as I know spirits can't harm you directly...
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I now believe the problem I might be facing is due in part to overwhelming negative energy. Is there any way to counter this?
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Old 12-23-2009, 03:26 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Where do you believe this negative energy is coming from?
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In short, YES.

The long answer is more complicated. First, you have to realize, on a visceral level, that you are not a helpless victim.

Next, consider where you feel this energy originates, and what kinds of shielding and protection might work for you.

Nobody can give you the perfect answer, because you'll have to find your own solution, but it helps to see how others deal with things like this (there are methods and techniques that work for most people once they adapt them to their own way of thinking and feeling).

The more information you give, the better the impression we can form from what you write, and the better (on average) any help and advice will be.
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Where do you believe this negative energy is coming from?
I now have more information regarding this issue.

I believe this is coming from multiple people, possibly a group.

I am concerned that there is no way to block this due to the 'quantity' of energy, and that it is causing permanent damage.

I also believe there is a 'subliminal' component here which is affecting more than myself.

I am certain the intent is malicious, & I need more assistance.

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I am assuming you know what you're talking about, and offer ideas to deal with that.

I suggest two defense techniques while you try and find help by some experienced shaman/healer/psychic:

1. Mirror Shield: envision yourself surrounded by a globe that is translucent from the inside out, but on the outside is polished to a mirror sheen. This globe will let through positive energies but reflect anything negative back towards its origin, threefold.

2. Decoys: Envision yourself creating dozens, or even hundreds of "holograms" of yourself, and envision the "enemy's eye" following those holograms instead of you. This is to divert their attention away from you.

Maybe even buy a circular carpet, say about 2 meters in diameter, and put up five candles around you, then sit in the center of it. Envision a protective bubble around the edge of this carpet, additionally strengthened by the candles (if you believe color makes a difference, use white ones).

I also suggest asking Erin, Anna Conlan or any of the other psychics on here for help in identifying the source of this energy and ways to end its influence.
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If all the things you have talked about are true; then you need outside help. Consult a reputable psychic.

What I do know is that even in the face of a consistent psychic attack, which I believe in very rare cases might occur, you still have very much power to control the situation.

This article by Erin has some good tips: How To Raise Your Vibration When You Feel Fear
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Thank you for the suggestions.

As an update, I am still receiving 'statements' throughout the night, as I occasionally awaken. Of course I also still receive them in the morning after I wake for the day, but before I actually leave my bed.

Because of the persistence of this problem and several other strange events, I am beginning to think there could also be an electronic component to this. I am discussing this on another forum.

In the mean time, there seems to be no way to block this whatsoever. As ridiculous as it sounds, it's like these people are able to 'enter my head' at will through telepathy.

Of course I would think that if even 1 in a million people had such a developed ability it would become known science quickly.

In any instance this seems like an issue I'll be dealing with for some time, along with the stress & loss of privacy that it brings, as it's now been occurring almost daily for over six months.

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on a similar note, can you receive "thoughts" from somebody who's also in the room with you ? for instance, this morning, I was in bed with my partner, and I woke up a brief instant before falling back to sleep and at one point, it was like I heard some sort of thought. I do not know if it was just me making it up or if it was real, advice any one ?
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Honestly I always imagined this would come in the form of 'synchronizing' with someone - that is, close physical proximity & eye to eye contact. Something that is somewhat inherent in the human brain.

However what I'm experiencing is definitely not that. It's possible these are people who knew me in the past, and if so some of them I have never communicated with at what could be considered close range (within 10 feet?)

And it would make sense that such an ability could transcend distance. Obviously if such a thing were occurring, it would be more complex than our brains simply broadcasting radiative energy in the traditional sense. It would more likely involve quantum physics, thus transcending our usual thoughts about distance.

As such, attempting to 'move away' would be impossible. I do like the idea about nervous system energy state or 'vibrations', but this has occurred to me regardless my state of relaxation. The only thing left for me to imagine is that perhaps the earth's natural radiated energy (I forget the name of this should anyone happen to know?) would act as a natural shield were I amongst nature. Maybe I should move to the middle of a forest..

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Try saying this, out loud, three times, with feeling:

Reclaiming Energy Field Affirmation

According to the universal law of creation
My body and my energy field were given to me and only to me,
<Your Full Name>
To hold only all that is me, all of my energy, all of my power
And all that benefits me.
My body and my energy field inherently are not designed
To hold anything that is not me or does not benefit me.
Anything that is not me, or may be harmful to me,
Is automatically rejected by my energy field.
I have ultimate control over what my energy field holds.
In my body and my field I <Your full name> RULE.

Helps getting rid of entanglements, intrusions ... that kind of thing.
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Something else I've noticed that I should mention - this never occurs in the context of other people. Should I be experiencing it during a waking period and suddenly go somewhere around people, it stops entirely.
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Can you be a little more specific here?

Based on what you information you have shared, could it be that your inner voice is trying to tell you that you are doing something that is not tru to yourself? Maybe your conscience?
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Anon,

I am getting a sense, that you are gifted ourself in receiving things in spirit.

To continue to feel as if you are being attacked is much like saying.."This radio station keeps attacking me with it's broadcast". Well If I were feeling attacked by a radio station..I would change the channel.

I think you should consider that, you are possibly picking up these things without meaning to. Perhaps you need to learn how to turn off or change the channel on your internal radio receiver?

Are you keeping a journal to write about these experiences...the moment you awaken? If you aren't, I suggest you do so. Then, I recommend you read around the forums for tricks and tips to protecting your energy field...and learn how to turn this off...(or at least quiet it). Perhaps if you are researching from the frame of mind, that is open to the fact that you may be awakening some spiritual gifts...perhaps the fear will drop off altogether and you will actually enjoy the process. It is rare, that many people will gather and send psychic attack to one individual...and I understand this is mostly how "vampires" work..have you been playing with vampires? (or pissing off anyone in the vampire community?) and from what I understand..even they aren't all about negative energy..and rarely gather to attack anyone. They usually take energy from donors...and feel it is wrong to steel energy or negatively attack others. they really are alot more peaceful than one would assume...hearing the name vampire.

Learn about white light protection, shielding/filtering. It will serve you well. Once you stop seeing this from a "victim" standpoint and realize that you..yourself, can create a power that is much more damaging if you do not try to understand it...things should fall into place and some of that fear may drop away and allow you to get some authentic rest.

I really think you are experiencing "awakening", and not the victim of psychic attack. Of course, I could be wrong. But, then again..you could be too. Please consider it.

If you think you are under attack from energy vamp type people..your shield will be useless if you dont implement..extra security. they are like T-Rex testing the fence. it is best to segment that globe of mirror, that was explained by mynder...and make it like a disco ball..and make it multi layered..and then keep it moving..one strip of mirror at a time...like an ever changing ever twisting rubiks cube(and if you can make one layer all lines that are like waves..and the next layer in say zigzagz in opposite direction)...so that the layers are never lined up the same twice...this will keep them working to find a way in..and if and when they do...it changes almost just as fast as they can try a second time. If you are under attakc of a sort..this shielding method..should help. If it don't...it is time to regroup and try to consider..that you are pulling this energy in..and not necessarily being attacked by it. I hope this helps. If not..PM me..and I can try to find a link or explain it more detailed..so that it does make sense.

Blessings,
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Ignore the voices. Doesn't matter their origin, do not listen to them and use your brain when you want to.

This is the answer to many problems. May the Force be with you.
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At this point I want to state that it seems the people responsible for this are being 'enabled' - that is a party is providing them with needed resources to accomplish their activities.

I say this because of their persistence and tenacity in a case that would otherwise have very little return on their efforts. I therefore think that it is safe to assume that after many months of what amounts essentially to a 'smear' campaign these people are working for a larger, negative purpose.

In this event, I also can't imagine that I am the only one undergoing these circumstances.

I would like to 'ignore the voices', but there have been multiple instances of receiving a communication and observing as a simulation of my own voice responded to it.

This would have obvious consequences if any of this stuff even exists. At this point, however, I have a strong leniency towards this being the abuse of technology rather than well developed psychic abilities that have somehow escaped scientific scrutiny.

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After that last post, I feel oddly reminded of wolf_girl's thread. Anybody else find these two instances similar?
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Ignore it unless you yourself start the 'communication'. It's simple, you feel your control is being interuptted and you are hooked because you think you are getting something from it so you keep it going by staying open to it. Close off to it completely. Write down everything they tell you. Sit in a room and attempt to ilicit one of these 'intrusions' with a tape recorder and/or a video camera placed around you. Or stay with voices in your head that no one else can hear. Or possibly have a friend who is a psychic connect with you on a spiritual level and use some sort of 'homing technique' to find where it is coming from. Options, options, options.
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After that last post, I feel oddly reminded of wolf_girl's thread. Anybody else find these two instances similar?
I thought the same thing! Go figure...
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Thank you for your responses everyone. I am having difficulty ignoring this, and at this point I think I am going to pursue other possibilities.
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