Pregognative dreams: Control???

[lantevigi]

So its been quite a while since i last pot#sted a thread, but anyways ill get sta#raight to the point...

I think, more to the point i know i can "dream the future" however there is no control over these dreams and sometimes its hard to depict when there going to happen, i.e. there's no pattern in them, i can have a dream weeks in advance of it actually happening and other times it can be the day after the dream, i see by looking at earlier threads that there are other "precog dreamers" who are also having the same sort of troubles and wandered if anyone would consider givi9ng me council??? as i think if i learned to manipulate the dreams perhaps i could put my abilities to some use!

thanks....

L

[celestialife]

Hey I would definitely recommend perusing Erin's site as she has many blog entries and podcasts related to lucid dreaming. That should be a good start for you. Check it out here!

[dream]

Thank you for posting this thread! There is someone out there I can relate to. "I feel sane!" If you know what I mean. Your posted question is way better than I could have explained it. I did not even know it was called Pregognative dreaming. Please don't be a stranger to the forum. If you can or want to, could you share one of your Pregog dreams. Hate to put you on the spot but I am so happy to find someone who has a similar gift.

[themaster]

I don't mean to burst anyone's bubble

But I believe were all equal and all capable of the same things Some of us may have started with easier paths *cough*cough* but we are all capable of the same thing..

As I understand it "the shift" has already happened and that energy is just being integrated into our lives faster and faster.. more and more so the idea is all these things will turn on..

When you use the word "manipulation" that is a "EGO" word for the "EGO" seeks to manipulate where as the more natural "true you" is very more heart centered, more inward focused.. much more natural and ease..

I suggest to you "manipulation" is not required trust in yourself is the best thing you can do.. if you want to manipulate the system as it were.. then use LOA positive process to selectively bring into your existence what you think about.. preferably.. what excites you makes you joyful and happy

[dream]

Ok, we all may be capable of the same thing, but where does the strength lie. Many of us are empathetic but for some it is a strength. Some people can pick up on entities. That is a strength. Some people have premonitions while awake. This is a strength. Some people have telepathy and can have out of body experiences and lucid dreams. We should know where our strengths lie as well as know what we are weak in. Mine is with none of these mentioned. My strength is precognitive dreaming. If someone has two abilities that's impressive to me. I'm just trying to understand my one. So collectively we are pretty powerful. I would love to hear of you're abilities as well (themaster). I suspect out of the many, there is one stronger than all the rest.

[dream]

Hi, I was reading over your comment again (the master) and missed the part about manipulation. Are you referring to control over your dreams as "manipulation" ? If so I never saw it that way. I like the ending of what you said but I'm a little slow, are these "shifts" to take place in 2012 and What is LOA. Also I still want to know what you gifts are, which all these questions seems to stray away from the original thread. Sorry about that..

[Orca]

Hi Lanti

I get dreams like that. I think sometimes the anxiety comes from feeling like i have to "do" something, once I get the info. I used to get very anxious and wish I didn't get these dreams. For example, if I have a precog dream that something serious will happen to someone, and I supposed to rush out and do anything, like warn the person? What if I only know the outcome but don't have the clarity of the specific date or the details? Then what? Do I scare people unnecessarily and unhelpfully? What if I'm wrong, or they think I'm loony, or I'm being intrusive? etc etc.

I've given up trying to control or stop the dreams. It doesn't work. Maybe it will work for you. For me, it's about knowing what I know and being ok with it, without feeling like I have to DO something. Because a lot of times I'm not supposed to do anything.

My dreams seem to involve people in my secondary circle, rather than primary. So that helps. I think it'd be harder if it were, say, my immediate family.

What has helped me, when I get stuff, is to just offer a heartfelt prayer. That way I feel like I did "do" something, without having to rush off and intervene or notify the world. It's enough, I think. It's just like smelling something coming from upwind. You won't always be able to change it.

Anyway, that's my .02 I'm open to learning more from others on this topic.

Sincerely,

Orca

[dream]

This helps a great deal. I never heard someone say to do nothing. I always thought there is a reason. It should be enough to accept what I know and be confident in that. That takes strength. I have noticed trying to control it doesn't work. I always thought gifts are meant to be used. So again I have a struggle. I love the peace you have about you position on this. I have to do some self searching about it. As you can see this has been the story of my life. just let go vs.. try to control it. I usually let go out of anxiety frustration not because I freely chose to.

[themaster]

Originally Posted by dream

Hi, I was reading over your comment again (the master) and missed the part about manipulation. Are you referring to control over your dreams as "manipulation" ? If so I never saw it that way

Even though I didn't quote it this is what I'm referring too.. when I say manipulation..

Originally Posted by lantevigi

however there is no control over these dreams

Originally Posted by lantevigi

as i think if i learned to manipulate the dreams perhaps i could put my abilities to some use!

Originally Posted by dream

I like the ending of what you said but I'm a little slow, are these "shifts" to take place in 2012 and What is LOA. Also I still want to know what you gifts are, which all these questions seems to stray away from the original thread. Sorry about that..

Okay.. let's clear up a few facts.. okay

The shift is already happening.. you can indentify this by a feeling.. seeing changes in your reality and people.. your already in the shift if your "awake" and being on this forum.. usually means your "awake" in some way

All it is.. is new energy.. we've all agreed to step into.. It's going to be a new way of being.. a new way of living.. and a new way of looking at the world without fear goggles It's a return to who and what we are.. in less limited fashion It's a bit more like dreams where we can "do no wrong"

Okay.. here's what I have to say to you dream and also to the original poster or OP lantevigi

1. Each of us is in our own reality

2. There is a idea that a lot of people romanticize or philosophize etc. which is talked about here.. especially in "new age" circles.. the idea is you have precognition in your dreams.. and you can save somebody..

But here's the bottom line truth

- You are in your own reality.. when something you dream comes true.. it's cause you created it

- Death is not a bad thing.. you don't need to save anybody or everybody.. all death is choice.. regardless of what *others* in society tell you

[themaster]

I would suggest exactly what Orca said If you dream something and you think it's bad.. that person you like is going to be killed whatever.. I wouldn't take any ACTION toward it.. if you want them to live.. just say.. "I prefer they live" that's all you have to do to make adjustments to the reality your living in.. you can't speak for other people but you can vibrate to a new reality where they choose to stay

Why I pointed out the word manipulation.. was because that's the exact idea the OP was talking about.. or in others words they may have also been talking about creating through dreams (don't bother.. just use LOA.. it's simpler! )

My suggestion to you dream and anyone else wanting to get into these plays of morality is to not bother Watch a movie on it instead.. or that tv show

These are just a hold up from "the shift" and likely these ideas won't serve you in a positive way.. especially if you get caught up in morality games.. why bother to get into morality games of a psychic/precognition nature?? why not just become a Detective it's the same game?? just different subject.

My suggestion to you is to live for fun, excitement and joy.. you won't find that much excitement in precognition and helping people.. (mostly) it's not that fun of a game

Does that clear it up dream?

Any questions?