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Old 11-04-2009, 02:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've noticed lately, that I've had many DREAMS where I sleep paralysis out of my body, and go around in my room. I'm 100 % sure these have been dreams, cause of the lack of details, misplaced or ignored items and the fact that I'm always affecting things physically (like moving things, turning on my pc). Guess these dreams are because I want to have an astral projection!

So far I've done experiments while I know that I'm in the "real" sleep paralysis (not dreams). For instance, I've moved my arms around in paralysis, and noticed they didn't move at all when I open my eyes, and I did the same thing with turning my entire body around. But things can be so confusing in this weird state. Not scary, but... illogical. Recently, in sleep paralysis, I waited for the frequency to go super high (sound in head), then I noticed I could move my arm, probably my astral arm. I thought of the lamp behind me, and I found the wire and flipped the switch up. Shouldn't this be... undoable?! Well, my eyes were closed, but I could still easily see that no lights were on. I clicked the switch several times back and forth, and nothing happened. When I opened my eyes, my arm was REALLY under my blanket, and it was as if nothing had happened. If this was just a dream too, I find it super hard to differ between dream and reality, but I'm very sure it wasn't a dream, cause I've had many other conscious paralysises where I've noticed the same things when I move my body.

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Or had any similar?
How do I know for sure what's really going on?
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Old 11-04-2009, 08:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
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For instance, I've moved my arms around in paralysis, and noticed they didn't move at all when I open my eyes, and I did the same thing with turning my entire body around. .................................................. ...........................................Recentl y, in sleep paralysis, I waited for the frequency to go super high (sound in head), then I noticed I could move my arm, probably my astral arm. I thought of the lamp behind me, and I found the wire and flipped the switch up. Shouldn't this be... undoable?! Well, my eyes were closed, but I could still easily see that no lights were on. I clicked the switch several times back and forth, and nothing happened. When I opened my eyes, my arm was REALLY under my blanket, and it was as if nothing had happened. If this was just a dream too, I find it super hard to differ between dream and reality, but I'm very sure it wasn't a dream, cause I've had many other conscious paralysises where I've noticed the same things when I move my body.


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There are two bodies involved in a sleep paralysis. One is the physical body which we know very well. The other is the astral body which we are not as familiar with.

When the astral body is not properly synchronized into the physical body, there occurs what is called sleep paralysis which really is the astral body’s inability to motivate all or part of the physical system, such that when you try to raise the physical body it does not move and seems to be resisting your desire. If during that state you experience a movement and if the physical body does not mimic that movement, it means that the astral system executed that action but it was unable to motivate the physical one.

When you experience this, you have to tell yourself mentally that the astral body is performing but the physical one is not responding because it is not connected to your willpower. If all or part of the physical system is disconnected from your will power, your mind will interpret that as a sleep paralysis.

One other way to look at this is to understand that when the physical body dies, the astral system is permanently disconnected from it and your will power will no longer motivate the physical body. People on this side of existence will say that you are dead, and you on the astral side of existence, will feel deprived of your body unless you are very advanced and understood this before the time of your body’s death.

When you hit the switch the lights did not come on because that switch was an astral counterpart of the physical switch and also your mind was not energizing the bulb on the astral side. In some of these experiences a person would hit a switch and the light would come on but only because that person’s mind energized the astral light bulb. In the astral world circumstances may fully or partially mimic physical situations.
When it is partial only there are paradoxes and confusing operations which will baffle you if you cannot realize that you are on the astral side and that it works in that the astral world works in a different way.
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Ah, I see! Thanks a lot for the explanation. So it was there because I expected it to be there, or... thought of it, in a way. If I hadn't thought of the switch and just moved my hand, forgetting that it was there, it might have gone through the entire switch as it appears in the physical world, if I'm getting it right
I think my next big step should be to seperate completely, which I haven't experienced yet, or to get vision. I never get to see anything with my eyes closed.
This night I had a nice sleep paralysis 4 o clock, and I felt as if I was pushed a bit, not all at once. Then I was turned around on the long-side, so my head was at where my feet would be, in a way (I didn't do it myself. I normally don't do any of those movements myself). I stayed for longer than usual, and I tried to imagine the roof (the teleport method) which didn't have any effect. I also thought I could just try to say "Hello?" with my mind, but I didn't notice any response or anything. Thinking of the guides here.
Do you, or anyone have any concrete tips on how I could further achieve results? (Third eye vision, more separation)
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If possible try to shift your attention away from trying to make it all happen, and go into a mood of observing how it happens.
Astral projection is happening to everyone, as the astral body has to separate from the physical body on a daily basis in sleep, the real objective with that natural system is one of observation.
It is okay to want to make it happen, but my point is that it is happening already and you are not observing it. If you switch your mood and look at it in that way you might develop the skill of how to separate faster.
Take time to observe the process of losing consciousness just before you fall asleep as well as how consciousness is gained just before awaking.

The excitement about success in this might be working against you, so decrease the excitement and the mind will become more sensitive and aid you in your efforts.
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Ok, thanks a lot, I'll give this some time and see how it goes
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