Just saw the movie Paranormal Activity...

[Thomas H]

So is there such a thing as a demonic spirit like the one portrayed in the film? If so, why?

[Zas]

I'm leaning toward the concept of "thought forms" lately.

That movie was super fun. I may care deeply about raising my vibration, but I would totally accept bad manifestations in my reality if that were the price to pay for fun horror flicks/stories. (Luckily, it seems to be the opposite since I enjoy them so much, heh.)

[james21v]

it is true and now science is being developed to trace such energy forms, if u believe it then only you can search them... read some books on verification of occult. you will know.

[codenamesmiley]

I haven't seen that movie yet. Is it worth the admission price? Anyone?

I have mixed emotions, because these types of things always get over advertised and hyped up, only to leave me severely disappointed and counting up the money I have wasted on movies just like it. (and the things I could have better spent it on..lol)

Blessings,
Rebecca

[velvet1]

In my views I do believe that demons are real. They're very different kinds of paranormal activities of course. It is believed that demons, are originally the giants (half human / half angel). One of the reasons why they try to posses a body is because they can't incarnate to bodies. If you read the bible it talks about the horrible things they did while living here on earth. They can come to our world by an open portal. Not sure how but they seem to find portals in houses, objects and sometimes people. Ouija boards are one of the examples, it can sometimes create a portal and once it is open it can be hard to closed it.

It kind of sounds scary but in my terms I always know that my guardians/angels are protecting me. So just be aware that you're being protected and call them out.

[Thomas H]

Originally Posted by codenamesmiley

I haven't seen that movie yet. Is it worth the admission price? Anyone?

It was an awesome horror movie. If that's what you're looking for go see it. It resembles the Blair Witch Project in the way it was filmed. I'd put it in my top 10 horror movies all time.

To give you some perspective some of my other favorite horror flicks are, Saw, I know what you Did Last Summer, Nightmare on Elm Street, Blair Witch Project, The Thing (John Carpenter), Texas Chainsaw Massacre...

[Bruce Achterberg]

Originally Posted by Thomas H

So is there such a thing as a demonic spirit like the one portrayed in the film? If so, why?

Hi Thomas,

So, perhaps I'm wrong, but I get the feeling you ask the question because, on some level, you already know the answer.

I believe, at the core of your being, you are powerful and knowing, and from that place of power—of connection and knowing—when you look at something like what you saw in this movie, the reason you—and other people—ask questions like this is because, at the core of who you are, you feel the offness of such concepts... concepts such as there is a source of evil or darkness, or that there is something to be feared… or, to put it another way: concepts such as the idea that wellbeing doesn't abound; the idea that you aren't safe; the idea that things have the power to assert themselves into your experience.

I believe that is the reason why (some; definitely most) people feel negative emotion when they watch movies that depict things like this movie did—because, as you see something that is so far from what you know to be true, you feel the distance—the gap—in the form of your negative emotion, and I believe that emotion is your indicator, giving you your answer, essentially letting you know where you stand in relation to what, at the core of your being, you know to be true. And that is why I say you already know the answer—because if you didn't already feel the resonance of what you know at a deep level, when you look at something like what you saw in that movie, you wouldn't—couldn't—feel what is now coming forth from within, calling you to what you, at least for a moment, have temprorarily diverged from by focusing upon something that represents the opposite of what you know to be true. And I feel that's why people ask questions like this: because, deep down, they feel the departure from what they know, and with good reason, want an explanation of why what they see is occuring in their experience; why they are seeing the absence of what they know to be true.

I could tell you what my guidance tells me—what I feel—about such things, and I could share things I've learned, but I don't feel I need to. And don't get me wrong—I don't think there's anything wrong with asking questions—with exploring the nature of reality and what's in it. What I am saying, though, is that I feel that you have a consistent, reliable form of guidance—something that you can trust—that calls you towards all of the answers you seek, and when you are in alignment with that, you feel the resonance of it in the form of positive, relieving emotion, and when you feel the absence of that, those powerful feelings are your indicator that what you are focusing upon is causing you to hold yourself away from the truth that you know at the core of your being, and those negative feelings are your indicator of that.

So: is there such a thing as a demonic spirit like the one portrayed in the film?

[Thomas H]

Well, on some level I probably know the answer to all questions. If I had to guess I would probably say yes, because of all the reports you hear on tv shows like ghost hunters or something like that. Doesn't seem like it could be in that many peoples experience without having some type of merit.

You are onto something though. The reason I asked is because that is really far outside my reality and I really don't understand. So by asking I was hoping to maybe learn a little bit more about it. Maybe I should've phrased my question differently?

I guess I know a little more about what Erin talks about with spirit guides and spirits that help you but I'm totally unaware of any dealings w/ demonic spirits and spirit distractors, so I'm curious about it.

[ellie]

Originally Posted by Bruce Achterberg

Hi Thomas,

So, perhaps I'm wrong, but I get the feeling you ask the question because, on some level, you already know the answer.

I believe, at the core of your being, you are powerful and knowing, and from that place of power—of connection and knowing—when you look at something like what you saw in this movie, the reason you—and other people—ask questions like this is because, at the core of who you are, you feel the offness of such concepts... concepts such as there is a source of evil or darkness, or that there is something to be feared… or, to put it another way: concepts such as the idea that wellbeing doesn't abound; the idea that you aren't safe; the idea that things have the power to assert themselves into your experience.

I believe that is the reason why (some; definitely most) people feel negative emotion when they watch movies that depict things like this movie did—because, as you see something that is so far from what you know to be true, you feel the distance—the gap—in the form of your negative emotion, and I believe that emotion is your indicator, giving you your answer, essentially letting you know where you stand in relation to what, at the core of your being, you know to be true. And that is why I say you already know the answer—because if you didn't already feel the resonance of what you know at a deep level, when you look at something like what you saw in that movie, you wouldn't—couldn't—feel what is now coming forth from within, calling you to what you, at least for a moment, have temprorarily diverged from by focusing upon something that represents the opposite of what you know to be true. And I feel that's why people ask questions like this: because, deep down, they feel the departure from what they know, and with good reason, want an explanation of why what they see is occuring in their experience; why they are seeing the absence of what they know to be true.

I could tell you what my guidance tells me—what I feel—about such things, and I could share things I've learned, but I don't feel I need to. And don't get me wrong—I don't think there's anything wrong with asking questions—with exploring the nature of reality and what's in it. What I am saying, though, is that I feel that you have a consistent, reliable form of guidance—something that you can trust—that calls you towards all of the answers you seek, and when you are in alignment with that, you feel the resonance of it in the form of positive, relieving emotion, and when you feel the absence of that, those powerful feelings are your indicator that what you are focusing upon is causing you to hold yourself away from the truth that you know at the core of your being, and those negative feelings are your indicator of that.

So: is there such a thing as a demonic spirit like the one portrayed in the film?

That's a really good way of looking at it.

The other way is to be brainwashed by a religion that constantly tells you there are demonic spirits, plus have a mum that would tell me of her demonic experiences

This is why I probably hate horror movies, because I was conditioned to believe that watching horror movies could help bring about demons.

But really at the end of the day, I get no enjoyment out horror movies anyway. I'd rather laugh than be scared

[themaster]

Originally Posted by Thomas H

So is there such a thing as a demonic spirit like the one portrayed in the film? If so, why?

Yes, why.. cause it's in our imaginations..

It's my understanding there's a lot of negative entity's out there that won't come into the light.. now I didn't say that something with hoofs for feet is negative.. I just said there are negative entities out there and they can gravitate toward you and your experience based on what you allow and think about..

Do you remember in the movie.. how the girl said this was the boyfriends fault with the camera and such.. did you notice that it was his fault? (if were assigning blame )

By plugging LOA into that story.. you got what you think about.. yes

But there's one easy thing to remove the fear of anything with 1 simple concept.. it's a simple concept called

The 1 are all, and the all are 1

The idea is the girl and her boyfriends character thought of this demon or whatever you want to call it.. as external to them.. it's not.. we are all the same being so even, when we play games with each other and pretend the other side is ohh so more powerful etc. it's not.. we are all the same being.. and you can run into any negative influence out there and still know that it's you

I saw this movie last night and most of my theater reacted but I did not.. it's hard for me to react because I know the truth of reality where as a lot of you still have doubts and veils

[Thomas H]

Yea I got the LOA perspective that you mentioned. I didn't think about it though from a oneness perspective. So that makes sense to me, like there's non-physical entities out there some negative some positive but that's all part of us. Just like there's some negative human beings and some positive human beings, but we're all part of the same whole.

[Anagogy]

Originally Posted by Thomas H

So is there such a thing as a demonic spirit like the one portrayed in the film? If so, why?

Originally Posted by themaster

Yes, why.. cause it's in our imaginations..

Originally Posted by Thomas H

Yea I got the LOA perspective that you mentioned. I didn't think about it though from a oneness perspective. So that makes sense to me, like there's non-physical entities out there some negative some positive but that's all part of us. Just like there's some negative human beings and some positive human beings, but we're all part of the same whole.

It's true, there are negative entities out there, both physical and nonphysical.

However, as Bruce mentioned, they (and all other forms of negativity) cannot ASSERT themselves into your experience unless you invite them in somehow. Inviting negativity is a matter of giving excessive attention to it to the point of generating intense negative emotions within yourself.

Your emotions will tell you how strongly you are magnetizing an experience to yourself. Intense negative emotion indicates it is occurring fairly rapidly. And so does intense positive emotion -- the only difference being that one involves what you want and one involves that which you DON'T want.

Much in the same way that darkness is not the opposite of light, but rather the ABSENCE of light, evil, or disharmony, is merely the absence of good (or harmony). There is a SOURCE of light, but there is no source of darkness -- it is simply the result of the absence of light. Similarly, there *IS* a source of harmony, but no source of disharmony. There is merely the RESISTANCE to harmony, which many humans have come to designate as "evil".

Some souls RESIST well being to the extreme, and from this place of disconnection, they lash out at other entities, finding destruction to be the only appropriate way to express themselves, because when you pinch yourself off from the source of positivity through your negativity, you do not feel good and you feel very much like hurting others.

Beings lash out from their state of disconnection, but never from their state of connection.

[Thomas H]

Originally Posted by Anagogy

It's true, there are negative entities out there, both physical and nonphysical.

However, as Bruce mentioned, they (and all other forms of negativity) cannot ASSERT themselves into your experience unless you invite them in somehow. Inviting negativity is a matter of giving excessive attention to it to the point of generating intense negative emotions within yourself.

Your emotions will tell you how strongly you are magnetizing an experience to yourself. Intense negative emotion indicates it is occurring fairly rapidly. And so does intense positive emotion -- the only difference being that one involves what you want and one involves that which you DON'T want.

Much in the same way that darkness is not the opposite of light, but rather the ABSENCE of light, evil, or disharmony, is merely the absence of good (or harmony). There is a SOURCE of light, but there is no source of darkness -- it is simply the result of the absence of light. Similarly, there *IS* a source of harmony, but no source of disharmony. There is merely the RESISTANCE to harmony, which many humans have come to designate as "evil".

Some souls RESIST well being to the extreme, and from this place of disconnection, they lash out at other entities, finding destruction to be the only appropriate way to express themselves, because when you pinch yourself off from the source of positivity through your negativity, you do not feel good and you feel very much like hurting others.

Beings lash out from their state of disconnection, but never from their state of connection.

OK I'm really getting it now. You guys are awesome at explaining things to me!! Thanks!

[velvet1]

There is this show called A Haunting on the Discovery channel. It talks about real people that experience evil entities and actors replay the story that they had experienced. Each case is different, but it explains different situation that are not always the same. Sometimes people do create paranormal activities because of stress (there is a name for that, but I don't remember what it's called) and it was actually explained in one of the episodes.

[ElleJaye]

For those that haven't seen the movie, if you've watched the Discovery Channel show A Haunting then you have an idea of the type of movie it is and, most likely, it won't be that scary to you. It's the Blair Witch Project meets A Haunting...

[drifta84]

this movie is **** dont bother seeing it unless you dont believe in spirits.

[themaster]

Originally Posted by drifta84

this movie is **** dont bother seeing it unless you dont believe in spirits.

Yes, it only works under a illusion of understanding.. but it might have been nice to not know and get freaked.. maybe

[joelr]

Originally Posted by themaster

I saw this movie last night and most of my theater reacted but I did not.. it's hard for me to react because I know the truth of reality where as a lot of you still have doubts and veils

I know Predator is fiction but I still felt scared at moments. Suspension of Belief is the whole point of enjoying these kind of movies. Horror movie fans also realize their movies are in the category called "Fiction" but perform a suspension for the sake of fun.

Plus only David Hawkins knows the truth because he knows kung-calibration-fu.