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Old 10-16-2009, 11:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Can lower astral entities and energies give you nightmares? Nightmares that are programmed so well that they hit you exactly where you're vulnerable?

I just had one, and it's too personal to share the details of it. But when I woke up I said "get thee hence negative entities" and all this negative energy left my system. Which suggests to me that my nightmare probably isn't real and isn't guidance from higher beings, but the manipulative scheme of some lower astral entities.

Anybody know whether nightmares can be controlled by these lower astrals? Do teachers or higher beings ever teach through nightmares? Any information is appreciated.
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Yes you're spot on.

It is very easy to go to the negative astrals by mistake when you are dreaming. It can either give you horrible nightmares, or mean that you just don't remember your dreams because they were too traumatic.

You can ask your astral guide before you go to sleep to make sure that you only have experiences in the positive astrals when you dream. If you find that doesn't work you might have a portalway open to the negative astrals which an soul realignment practitioner would be able to close for you, or you could probably ask for the portalway to be closed by asking your guides to close it for you.

I don't know if we are taught anything through going to the negative astrals. I know some souls go there in an effort to help other souls that might have got stuck there.

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Can lower astral entities and energies give you nightmares? Nightmares that are programmed so well that they hit you exactly where you're vulnerable?

Anybody know whether nightmares can be controlled by these lower astrals? Do teachers or higher beings ever teach through nightmares? Any information is appreciated.
First let me say that anyone (physical person) or any entity/entities (lower astrals, negitive spirits, demonic like entities, demons, or even your guides, subconscious or higher self) could be behind your nightmare. I'm just going to use the term "somebody" instead of 'anyone or any entity/entities' for simplicities sake.

When you wrote "programmed so well that they hit you exactly where you're vulnerable" that grabbed my attention and got my mind reeling. That statement denotes that your nightmare was carefully planned/crafted by either somebody who is very familiar with you or by somebody that has studied you to some extent and has learned what your fears are.

Sometimes our guides, higher self or even our subconscious can produce nightmares to teach us something. I had the same basic nightmare for many years. I just could not figure out why I was having it. To make a long story short I finally figured out what the nightmare was trying to tell me and it went away. I think my nightmare was generated by my subconscious. Something I was aware of on a subconscous level and needed to be aware of on a conscious level.

A physical person could have sent you a nightmare either to harm you or to teach you. I did this once to somebody when I learned that this person was going to try and bring forth a demon as part of an occult self initiation. I sent this person a nightmare to show him what could happen if he did bring forth this demon. Later I found out I was successful, he had the nightmare, and changed his mind.

Treat this nightmare as you would any other dream that you want to find the meaning of. Although the nightmare may have realistic elements look at them as symbols of somethng else. Look at the action. What's going on in the simpliest terms. If your nightmare had more than one scene how many characters were in each scene including yourself. Only three people per scene a lot of times means they represent yourself, higher self and lower self (conscious, superconscious, subconscious). Look at your dream caefully.

Sometimes we are sent a nightmare to get a point accross when nothing else has worked, as a last resort. Not one so bad you can't remember it when you wake up, but just bad enough so you do remember it and pay attention to it.

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A physical person could have sent you a nightmare either to harm you or to teach you. I did this once to somebody when I learned that this person was going to try and bring forth a demon as part of an occult self initiation. I sent this person a nightmare to show him what could happen if he did bring forth this demon. Later I found out I was successful, he had the nightmare, and changed his mind.
Now that is something.
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Hi Ethereal,

All of these response are true in my experience. One thing that was not answered for you was whether teachers or higher beings would use this for teaching. It has been my experience that higher/positive beings would not use this as a method of teaching. But perhaps there are exceptions? Like maybe you haven't been able to learn something any other way. I have to believe that my guides and teachers are more creative than that!

If you have negative entities giving you nightmares or other negative experiences a lot, then you could have a portal nearby, or some other way for them to have easy access to you. Some clearing work may be necessary. And there are many methods for psychic protection.

Also, my hubby is one of those souls who travels to negative astrals for "rescue missions". This is beneficial for those souls, but last time he came back with a really bad negative entity attachment that possessed him for a thankfully short time. It was a really freaky and bad experience for all of us.

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Also, my hubby is one of those souls who travels to negative astrals for "rescue missions". This is beneficial for those souls, but last time he came back with a really bad negative entity attachment that possessed him for a thankfully short time. It was a really freaky and bad experience for all of us.
Hi Keena,

Could you tell about this possession experience as in what is was like for him to be possessed, what symptoms did he exhibit and what not? Also how did you fix it? I'm very curious.

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Yes you're spot on.

It is very easy to go to the negative astrals by mistake when you are dreaming. It can either give you horrible nightmares, or mean that you just don't remember your dreams because they were too traumatic.

You can ask your astral guide before you go to sleep to make sure that you only have experiences in the positive astrals when you dream. If you find that doesn't work you might have a portalway open to the negative astrals which an soul realignment practitioner would be able to close for you, or you could probably ask for the portalway to be closed by asking your guides to close it for you.

I don't know if we are taught anything through going to the negative astrals. I know some souls go there in an effort to help other souls that might have got stuck there.

Hope that helps.
astral guide? astral guide??? Now that's something new to learn about! What is it? I just had my first lucid dream last week so I need to make sure i don't get into any sticky situations too!
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Woah, this is an interesting thread! I had never thought of nightmares as anything but "thoughts" from the subconscious. What do you all think about lucid nightmares (lucid dreams that take a turn for the nasty) - I really want to understand this phenomenon better.

My recent lucid nightmare: Lucid Nightmares: When Lucid Dreams Become Nightmares

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I've had experiences with lower astrals (as you call them) giving me nightmares. It was so bad that I avoided going to bed until I was absolutely exhausted, wake in fright less than an hour later and then hardly sleep the rest of the night. Was getting less than 2 hours sleep a night. The crunch came when I found myself being told in a dream that I had to die and being so stressed that I agreed to it. I woke to feeling that some sort of energy was moving up my legs towards my body, I just knew when it got to my heart I would die. I sat up, drew my legs to my body and out of the energy, saying over and over "I won't die, you can't make me die". In my head I heard a strange voice tell me "You said you would". I firmly told it to leave me alone and called my guardian forward, he had been pushed down by the entity and my depression at the time. It was the first time I saw him clearly as he came toward me with a huge smile on his face. I was able to sleep for the rest of the night, he was able to hold it back but to clear it properly I needed to do a space cleansing. The night after I did that I woke and felt something at the head of the bed between my husband and me. At first I thought "oh no' but then realised it was my guardian. I thanked him for protecting me and asked him to move as his energy was keeping me awake. He kindly moved and I was able to have the best sleep in weeks. It's been a couple of years and never have had anything of the like again
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Could you tell about this possession experience as in what is was like for him to be possessed, what symptoms did he exhibit and what not? Also how did you fix it? I'm very curious.

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Honestly it was scary! He did a complete Jeckyl/Hyde. Normally he's pretty easy going and good humoured. I sensed a shift in his energy in the late afternoon but chalked it up to a stressful day at work, and it got progressively weirder and more unstable. Then a small incident happened which "flipped the switch" - he turned quite violent - coming after me and our daughter - hands-on. Throwing stuff, flipping furniture, breaking glass, screaming. And honestly - he's not the "domestic violence" type of guy - even though the description sounds like it.

When things were safer and he locked himself in the bedroom I checked in with my guides who told me it was a negative entity possession - something that "attached" while on an (unconscious) rescue mission in the negative astrals. (He doesn't consciously choose to go there.)

I asked my guides to get appropriate light-beings - angels and those known as members of the Third Order who can remove and bind negative entitites. I am also a Soul Realignment practitioner so I did a full-on Akashic record clearing for him.

The next morning my husband was so scared. He said he felt like he was a prisoner in his own body - that he could see what was happening and was screaming to stop but he couldn't be heard and couldn't affect the being that had invaded him. He felt helpless and scared of what might happen.

After that I asked my astral guide to get his astral guide to prevent him from entering the negative astrals. Given free will this may or may not work - so I made him an amulet for protection for astral travel (PM me for the recipe if you like). So far so good.

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Honestly it was scary! He did a complete Jeckyl/Hyde. Normally he's pretty easy going and good humoured. I sensed a shift in his energy in the late afternoon but chalked it up to a stressful day at work, and it got progressively weirder and more unstable. Then a small incident happened which "flipped the switch" - he turned quite violent - coming after me and our daughter - hands-on. Throwing stuff, flipping furniture, breaking glass, screaming. And honestly - he's not the "domestic violence" type of guy - even though the description sounds like it.

When things were safer and he locked himself in the bedroom I checked in with my guides who told me it was a negative entity possession - something that "attached" while on an (unconscious) rescue mission in the negative astrals. (He doesn't consciously choose to go there.)

I asked my guides to get appropriate light-beings - angels and those known as members of the Third Order who can remove and bind negative entitites. I am also a Soul Realignment practitioner so I did a full-on Akashic record clearing for him.

The next morning my husband was so scared. He said he felt like he was a prisoner in his own body - that he could see what was happening and was screaming to stop but he couldn't be heard and couldn't affect the being that had invaded him. He felt helpless and scared of what might happen.

After that I asked my astral guide to get his astral guide to prevent him from entering the negative astrals. Given free will this may or may not work - so I made him an amulet for protection for astral travel (PM me for the recipe if you like). So far so good.

Blessings,
Keena
Wow, thank you for sharing that. Extremely interesting.

How do you personally communicate with your guides? Do you see them in a fully conscious state or do you go into meditation or some other altered state? Do they communicate to you in "intent" or do they provide words to you?

Thanks for the answers.
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Hi all! I'm new here. Ditto all the questions from above.

I discovered that if I'm really sad when I go to bed I always went in dreams to a certain astral land I guess it was, I always went to the same horrid place in dreams every time I was sad when I went to bed. So I take care to never go to bed sad and that takes care of it.
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