Dream, coincidence?

[JMonkey]

The other night I had a pretty terrible dream that my ex-girlfriend (Gemma) was being raped. I was witnessing it in a sort of floating position, I imagined myself as a ghost. When I found out about what had happened I became intensely angry and hunted the man down to kill him. I put a gun to his head and fired twice but nothing happened, I then tried to beat him with the gun but felt like my arm was being held back. Later in the dream I broke his neck my hands and even though his head was facing the other way he was still talking like nothing had happened. When I woke up I remembered the dream extremely vividly, which is pretty rare for me.

Later that evening I was eating my dinner and decided to watch an episode of 'Waking the Dead' on BBC iPlayer. I hadn't watched this particular drama before but was recommended to watch it by a friend. In the episode I chose to watch the storyline was about a girl named Gemma who was raped by two men, one who used violence on her.

A few things have happened to me like this in the past. One day I dreamt my friend kicked another friend's wall down then a week later someone drove into the wall (it wasn't as if this happens all the time, first time the wall had been damaged since it was built 18 years ago)

I don't know if I should read anything into these kind of dreams? Or shall I dismiss them as just pure coincidence?

[Betrade]

I would write them down and follow what happens; then make a determination as to whether they're precognitive or not.

[themaster]

Precognitive.. you know that word just sounds well stupid

No such thing as precognitive.. we create in the NOW if we allow events in our dreams to be created in our reality that's our choice.. planning is done in the dream stages that is no doubt.. that's where deja vu comes from..

What you should do now?

Your asking.. I would let go of some morality based judgments if I were you.. did you feel revenge in the murder of the guy who raped my girlfriend thing?

Because in all honestly.. I would hope you would behave better in said situation

I think the dream is more about you taking a look at yourself.. that's my guess, who you are and how you behave.. ultimately it's your dream however.. and I bow to your own wisdom about yourself

[Betrade]

Originally Posted by themaster

Precognitive.. you know that word just sounds well stupid

No such thing as precognitive.. we create in the NOW if we allow events in our dreams to be created in our reality that's our choice.. planning is done in the dream stages that is no doubt.. that's where deja vu comes from..

I don't know about that. You can call it what you want, but I have known people who regularly dream of the iminent deaths of people close to them; as well as other things.

I don't know who this works or what the process is; but when we're awake and dwelling in linear time (or at least time that appears linear) those dreams can be seen as precognitive or as premonitions. Whether they are or they aren't I cannot really say because i just don't have enough concrete information to safely assume one way or another; but I do know that this does happen; and I'm not talking about basic; garden variety deja vu.

[themaster]

I don't doubt your truth Betrade and do agree with you.. I just say that since everything is created now.. whether I was brushing my teeth yesterday or christ was just born.. I claim it's all the same moment (according to my teacher )

so the idea precognitive is just a descriptive label for "creating a experience to happen in the later linear time framework and knowing about it"

[Betrade]

Originally Posted by themaster

I don't doubt your truth Betrade and do agree with you.. I just say that since everything is created now.. whether I was brushing my teeth yesterday or christ was just born.. I claim it's all the same moment (according to my teacher )

so the idea precognitive is just a descriptive label for "creating a experience to happen in the later linear time framework and knowing about it"

I know what you mean. It's the "eternal now" thing. I agree with that myself, but either way, we still travel through time in a linear way, so I can see both views and I don't believe that they contradict one another.

I part ways with you one one point though. The idea of us "creating" everything, in the sense that if my neighbor wakes up today and decides to steal my car, I don't believe that I "created " that situation. I believe that my neighbor did through free will.

The whole free will thing is a discussion that could go one forever and the questions would never really be answered, but I do believe in it; and I also believe that the future is NOT cast in stone, even if we're in an eternal"now". I definitely believe that we can choose to change the future at any moment. We all do it anyway; whether we're aware of that fact or not.

Time is an amazing and difficult thing to try and comprehend with our finite minds. Then again, so are many other things, like gravity, light, etc. Hell, existence itself is amazing. I find it miraculous that we even exist to begin with; and that we truly are time travelers. we mover "through" time at every moment, yet we only exist in the "now". It's mind boggling when you really think about it.

As far as "seeing" the future in dreams is concerned, it seems to me that when we're dreaming, the laws pf physics; including time; go right out the window; so almost anything seems possible; including those rare glimpses into the 'future", or into another "now", whenever that may actually happen in "time".

[Mynder]

Even themaster's teachers speak of "co-creation". So there may be those entities who create a whole universe all for themselves, but I think the more normal (and fun) experience is where many of us create TOGETHER.

So yes, I also think we're "projecting into the same playground" for the sheer fun of "playing together".

As for the original topic...I've had my share of "militant" and "violent" dreams. I think on some level, they also serve to fortify yourself, to "claim your space", to know and feel that your dreams are yours. they deal with our fears, and they allow us to live things we couldn't or wouldn't do in the "waking world" and vent emotions that need venting.

[themaster]

Originally Posted by Betrade

I part ways with you one one point though. The idea of us "creating" everything, in the sense that if my neighbor wakes up today and decides to steal my car, I don't believe that I "created " that situation. I believe that my neighbor did through free will.

I agree with you almost entirely accept these 2 things..

1. If you understand LOA like I understand it.. you can't have someone steal your car.. or walk into your house and stab you at night.. or bump into you on the street.. everything is by law of attraction.. every hour, every day, every second.. The idea to understand is the idea "I create everywhere"

This is a serious limitation you place on yourself.. to know you don't have full control over your reality when you do.. (this is a belief/idea that many of the reflections/people in reality have) there is however the idea that you cannot actively push against any experience or you will bring that experience to you.. you have to validate all experiences and in doing so.. choose the ones you want

Originally Posted by Betrade

Time is an amazing and difficult thing to try and comprehend with our finite minds.

That is a statement of limitation.. I do not agree.. try and change that too.. "Time is a amazing thing to try and understand with our unlimited minds"

As long as you say you can't understand it.. you never will.. law of attraction is always working

[Mynder]

...which brings us back to the question of what happens when two entities attract opposite effects, for a stupid example let's say two guys attracting the very same woman.