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Hi, I'm new to this so if I go on a bit, I apologise. I'm 24 and despite having lost my baby boy 6 weeks ago, I feel positive. Over the last 3 and a half years, I have had 4 miscarriages. When I got pregnant last October I really felt that life was good. This pregnancy was different to the other ones. I felt a strong spiritual connection to the life I was nurturing. I decided not to work during this pregnancy, as this was one of the common factors I felt was hindering the previous pregnancies from making it the through to the end. I followed all the syncronicities that appeared in my life and became very centred. Books that were just sitting on the shelves in odd ways caught my attention, people whom I had never spoken to became close friends and pennies started turning up everywhere. I had a lot of support and my partner and I were actually doing things without planning too much. As I was saying, I had a very strong connection with the baby and I felt a home birth was right for both of us. All my antenatal appointments with the doctors, sonographers and midwives showed he was a healthy and safe candidate for home birth and I delved deep into ancient history to find out why I was so comfortable with having him without medical intervention. I kept a journal and made sure I was the best host I could be. Being sensible I was prepared to go to hospital, just in case, but I knew we'd be ok. Kael (as we started to call him in March) was very much his own person and I could feel his strength throughout. He made me aware of a few things about myself and the 4 previous pregnancies. The spirits knew i would be a good mom and they would have all learnt from me, but I wasn't physically or spiritually strong enough to maintain the connection. They were ok with that and went back to the ether to wait for me. I gave birth to Kael on July 15th at 22.44. He had the cord wrapped around his neck twice, the midwife removed it and i delivered him. They put him straight into my arms and I saw him for the first time. I didn't notice but he was blue and not breathing, because of this he had to be resucitated and was taken off me. He was rushed to hospital in an ambulance. I was then taken in by a separate ambulance and met up with my partner there. Kael was in neonatal intensive care. The second time i got to see him he was in an incubator with tubes all over him. I was just so happy to see him, i couldn't stop crying. (happy tears) The next four days we had with him we're magical. Although we were told the oxygen starvation caused by the cord could severely affect him, I knew he was a fighter. When the doctors said they had to take him off the ventilator there was an air of 'this is it, be prepared to say goodbye'. We were prepared and from the moment he started to breathe on his own, i knew he was going to prove them wrong. What I wasn't prepared for was the following 27 hours. He would breathe fine for between half an hour to an hour and then would stop for a few minutes, turn blue at the extremities and we'd say goodbye. Then he would just take a big breathe, followed by another and regulate his breathing again. My partner and i said goodbye to him so many times. Every time it happened we thought 'this time he's going to go'. Eventually after several hours of this, we asked if we could try and feed him, take him out etc. He got some of my milk, he went out in a pram and we were allowed to take him up to our room(at the hospital). He spent the night with us, feeding every two hours and making the cutest noises. The morning after, I had made tea while he was sleeping on my arm, i realised he was quiet. The patterned had changed and I knew this was it. I woke up my partner and we lay in bed together watching him. We called the nurses and they came and stood around the bed. I put Kael on my chest, skin to skin, and let him go. It was hard but I knew he had done all he needed to do. The results of his birth (and death); My father has accepted my partner and actually acknowledes his presence. My partner reconnected with his Dad, whom he hadn't seen or spoken to in years, and I've made connections with many people from my past who I haven't thought about in years. There are a lot of positives to be had from this, and despite the occasional tearful breakdown, I feel quite positive about my life. Energy2Energy With Love. I have a few questions though. I read somewhere that newborns spirits don't connect straight away - how does this affect Kael? I know I felt his spirit throughout the pregnancy and the four days he lived. I feel as though he came to teach me something, but not being able to see it from any perpective but my own, I can't figure out what. Any thoughts? I was recently meditating at home, when i felt the need to open my eyes. Once i had adjusted to the light, i looked across the room (almost as though my head was moved to that focus point) and i 'saw' him crawl across the floor towards me, then went. I know he wasn't there and what I saw wasn't a 'visual' but it was real. Any thoughts? I don't belong to a religion but i do believe in reincarnation. I'd like to think he's in the ether with my nan (she had 10 kids and knows how to handle strong spirits!) but i have a suspicion he's still with me. Like I have two spirits in my one body. Any thoughts? Thanks for reading. I hope I didn't go on too much. Love is All |
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Dearest MaGrimm - What a bitter sweet experience. First, I am proud of your thoughts on all of this. It is not easy, but you have handled with grace and, what sounds to me, as a strong spirtual bond. I had six miscarriages - and each time I 'knew' something wasn't right with the development. I accepted their passage and knew that all was okay. There are many theories on this - ranging from that those blessed souls provided you experiences that your soul plan wished for in this life - to - lessons on appreciating the joy and wonderment that Kael's brief life afforded you and your partner - to - Kael's soul plan was fulfilled in that (what seems to us) brief life. I do feel that Kael will pop in occassionally to see how you and your partner are doing - but he won't stay. Some believe that our young loved ones grow up on the other side and await to rejoin with us when it is our time to cross over; or that they will reincarnate when circumstances work out to allow them to be re-born (circumstances as per their own soul plan). Thank you for sharing. |
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You might like to read Brian Weiss' book "Many lives, many masters". His wife also lost a baby and meaning came through an extraordinary case he had, as feudian psychoanalist. I saw Weiss in an interview. He gave this a lot of thought because he was a reputable professional, and publishing his book could damage it. instead it became a best seller. As far as I know, when people die young, their spirits were highly evolved spirits (think of angels) who already learned everything here, so their mission is not to learn, but to teach something about the meaning of life. So you gave birth to an angel. Last edited by ar81; 09-10-2009 at 06:11 PM. |
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I have to admire your strength about this, it's truly remarkable how accepting you are of it. I really like ar81's ending "you gave birth to an angel" very nice. I'm not sure about spirits, but everything happens for some reason, and taking the approach to learn from everything and growing is a great way to take on life. |
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From what you just wrote here, I can tell you've learned so much. It's possible, Kael came here to teach you about attachment and letting go. You seem to have such a deep, wise understanding about that in how deeply you feel his connection and love, yet when the time came you knew you had to let go. I wonder if this resonates for you and if you notice this playing out in other aspects of your life. A lot of people can learn from the insights that you gleaned from the life and passing of your son. I would totally encourage you to trust your mind and heart with regards to feeling a connection with Kael right away. It is possible to be in tune with that. And I'm sure if you feel him with you that he is with you and that you saw him. I've definitely 'seen' things like that. Trust your experiences. And again, thank you for sharing this and I wish you all the best.
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I agree with lamusa.. it seems that in your past (illusion of past) you have various problems with these children being born.. I would think if you wish to have another child that next time you allow the idea that if this baby is another miscarriage or something else.. that you are A-okay with that.. You see pushing against that.. just creates it And I too will say congratulations to you on not doing the "normal" world game of being a victim or being depressed ect. congratulations to you on being yourself and not getting attached to things that don't matter.. On to your questions I read somewhere that newborns spirits don't connect straight away - how does this affect Kael? If I remember my teachers word's correctly.. a baby is not attached to until the birthing process my teacher actually has a specific idea/name for this energy but I cannot remember it at this time.. The only thing I remember about this is that my teacher stated that after birth while the consciousness is attached to at that point (in the womb not so much) we may still dis-attach at points during the growth process meaning.. may be more in non-physical then here.. and then were back.. this can easily explain why babies look distant sometimes as old people do when there leaving.. To understand it specifically babies etc. are a-okay with the idea of just being here a few days or not even making it out of the womb.. they happily come forth for said experience.. I feel as though he came to teach me something, but not being able to see it from any perspective but my own, I can't figure out what. Any thoughts? All experiences teach in a way.. they are just experiences though.. my guess he was helping you teach what I talked about above.. you need to get let go and allow.. that is your secret way to getting through this birth manifestation process that you have created as a repetitious circle.. but bare in mind only you can know.. it's your life I was recently meditating at home, when i felt the need to open my eyes. Once i had adjusted to the light, i looked across the room (almost as though my head was moved to that focus point) and i 'saw' him crawl across the floor towards me, then went. I know he wasn't there and what I saw wasn't a 'visual' but it was real. Any thoughts? My teacher states.. that we are visited consistently from people that die or we care about.. they show up to give a energy boost so to speak or in some cases die to give us one.. I don't belong to a religion but i do believe in reincarnation. I'd like to think he's in the ether with my nan (she had 10 kids and knows how to handle strong spirits!) but i have a suspicion he's still with me. Like I have two spirits in my one body. Any thoughts? If you think about him.. then yes, he knows your thinking about him.. you can connect internally.. of course re-incarnation is real.. but here's the real secret.. time is a illusion.. your son is still alive in another universe.. in another one he's graduating from high school.. in this very moment your giving birth to him.. time is a illusion I state again.. everything is right NOW |
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Well done on a great post. Thank you so much for sharing your story. The most important Love on this planet is that between Mother and Child. Yet this Love is also about loss. The mother has to accept loss/death/transformation of her baby over and over again. From sucking baby to toddling toddler to waving them off to school, saying goodbye to their prepubescent children and finally saying goodbye completely as they set out of the home. You are the ultimate Mother. You have the ability and Grace to accept the losses for the beauty they ultimately bestow. You are truly amazing to have learned this process throughout so much heartbreak. It is my belief that when the baby is in the womb he/she does not have a permanent spirit. The spirit comes and goes, occasionally occupying its new human form and playing around but mostly back in the spirit world awaiting its journey. Upon entering the birth canal the spirit begins a much more permanent stay in its human form. Psychics have noticed that in the delivery room spirits are present and often the new infant spirit is still playing with its spirit mother once the baby is first born. Once the baby is out of the birth canal an aura begins to develop around the baby starting from the crown. The spirit is not permanent in the baby until around 4-6 months of age which co-incides with the fontanelles fusing in the babies head. It is believed that before this age the baby still has much contact with the spirit world and many choose to go back there and not carry out this human journey for whatever reason. You will forever more have a son in the spirit world. He has connected with you, shown his presence and you can connect with him at anytime you want or need. Enjoy his presence. You are blessed.xx |
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I can relate to this story very much, and thanks for posting about it. My ex wife and I lost a baby girl back in 95', and before that, I never realized the impact that even a short life can have. The fact that that child lived; and died; wound up changing a very bitter old woman (my ex's grandmother) into a completely different person. It was amazing. She even asked us to bury her over her husbands grave; so we did. There were a few other things that happened but that was the most obvious. It was like a miracle. The change in this woman was profound. I guess it just touched a place in her heart that she may have forgotten even existed. That was a great lesson on the value of ALL human life; however seemingly insignificant it may appear; despite the intense emotional pain that accompanied the experience. One word of advice I would offer to anyone who may know someone who has lost a baby; even if it was a miscarriage. Please don't say things like "You're young and you can still have another child". I know those who say that are very well meaning and I never got mad at anyone about it; but I really grew tired of hearing it. It's better to just say something like, "I'm really sorry for your loss", or something along those lines. It's really more hurtful than many realize (including myself before I went through it; so I'm just as guilty as anyone else on that matter). It tends to devalue the life that was lost (although not intentionally) as though babies are just something we can make at any time we choose, but that's not always the case; not by a long shot. Last edited by Betrade; 09-14-2009 at 12:24 PM. |
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It has been wonderful to know that you have read about my situation and felt strong enough to write a response. I'm very grateful for all the comments and i will take some time to reflect on them individually. Energy2Energy With Love MaGrimm xxx |
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He asked a simple question and then it hit me. I can't control anything and by trying to I'm actually causing problems for myself. My partner and I are very close and I often forget that we're two separate individuals. I expected him to be in all my lives as if he was part of my 'I am'. By doing that I was creating subtle tension in myself. Now I realise I have to be able to let go of him as well as letting go of me. I am no longer subconciously afraid of us 'leaving' each other. 'Leaving' is dying not Death, Death is the point 'I am' becomes 'All' Thanks for helping me [the master], your post had a purpose and it was fulfilled. I am P.s Many Lives, Many Masters is a great book, thanks for the recommendation. | |
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im very sorry for your loss. and we all see that you are a very evolved soul already.dont doubt in any second that your baby´s spirit is with you whenever you need it. only you can know what was his message to you.it is great that it already made you closer to your parents,of your partner´s too. brian weiss´s books were the ones that made me look further...i always believed in reincarnation.makes so much sense...but MASTER Is right...time is an illusion,we can live many lifes at the same !time! and can go back and forth in those lifes....you will encounter each other again. if you want or it helps you i can give you an email of someone who does readings (free) ,astrologically. i found that several of my family members are part of my soul family. throughout lifes we are all together in different conections...your baby´s spirit might very well be one of your soul family. blessed be. |
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Your very welcome MaGrimm I can't exactly follow all of what you said (even as smart as I am It sounds very much like you had a spiritual awakening.. and that is great! |
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I can't say that I know how you feel, but my ex wife and I lost a baby girl back in 95', and I may know a bit how you may feel, and I can say that I know what I felt and what I feel now, all these years later. Our baby was just born too soon. My take was this; once I processed the whole experience; she wasn't made for this world and went straight to the place that she was meant to be, but not after having an impact while she passed through this world. I also believe that she's in a place where where she's always watching us, her siblings, and even praying for us; as well as hanging around us if we ask her. I still talk to her from time to time and I could tell you of a couple of really cool events where another family member prayed for her help and received it. It's a wonderful thing; an honor and a privelege to have friends in high places; especially family and especially your child. I've been hanging onto that for years and it really helps me to understand the bigger picture. She taught me a great deal and your child will teach you even though he's not here physically now. It was a sad story, but it had a happy ending as well. About a year later, another baby was on the way and the doctors believed that my wife wouldn't be able to carry another child full term. They were right, but because of losing one child, with that knowledge we were able to save the next one. He's 13 now and awesome; and it's like his big sister gave up her own life to save his. How awesome is that?The gratitude I feel toward that child is incredible and to think that she actually laid down her life for her own brother; in a way, is awesome. Maybe she knew the bigger picture when no one else could see it?? I like to think so. They (I) gave my wife steroid injections throughout the pregnancy (betamethasone) and that helped develop the lungs so if the he came early, he could BREATHE and have a far better chance of making it. He did. We had a whopping 4 pound baby boy who lost a pound before bouncing back from the brink, was in the NICU for weeks, came home and is one of the most awesome people I have ever known. So, I truly believe that these things happen for a higher purpose; even when we don't see it through our sadness, or until much later. Also, my dughter's short little life had an amzing impact on many people; much to my surprise; including a very bitter and lonely old woman (a relative) who was left widowed and lonely for many years, but was touched by the whole experience and was radically changed. She even had us bury her over her husband (shared plot) who she loved dearly and missed horribly; and that meant more than I could even realize at the time. The effect that this little baby had on that one individual woman alone gave this child's life an amazing purpose and meaning. I can't help but believe that this WAS her purpose (among a few others); and she achieved it in a very, very short time frame. So, I can only say that I'm VERY sorry for your loss, and that your attitude is great. I also know that some people will say hurtful, but well intended things such as, 'You're still young and you can have another child". I know that you know what I mean. Don't take it personally; they know not what they do. It took me a little while to get that; and also through that; I also learned that many times; I know not what I do either; and that I sometimes need forgiveness, understanding, etc. That's another lesson that that short life showed me. I probably needed to learn that and I received that knowledge. I mean, I knew it logically, but then I KNEW it and understood it completely. I believe your boy knows all about you RIGHT NOW; more than even you may know about yourself; and loves you as much; and probably even more as he would have had he not passed. I honestly believe that and I suspect that you do too. I have no doubt that you'll always love him, and even though he's,gone from this world, you're still his Mom and he's still your son. Nothing can EVER change that; so in that sense, you're blessed. I think you'll see his purpose at some point too; even if it takes a while and you'll understand and actually have joy as a result of being able to participate in, and be a crucial part of that higher purpose. Take Care Now. I hope my take on this situation helped just a bit. Last edited by Betrade; 11-15-2009 at 07:16 PM. | |
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It's 4 months to the day since Kael passed on and I have had many new experiences since then. This particular site has helped me a great deal and I have been directed towards a number of different things, that have allowed me the opportunity to grow even more. I would like to thank all that have read my posts and especially those that replied to them. I had a natal chart reading that revealed some really interesting things about Kael and myself. It has inspired me to revisit my interest in astrology. I have nothing but admiration for everyone that contributes to this site. Take care. Energy2Energy with Love Magrimm |
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A few nights ago I had a vivid dream that I can't shake off. I'm sure there's something in it that i should be aware of but I can't figure it out, any thoughts would be a help. I was on stage just before a live show of the 'X factor' (British singing competition, that I don't watch). In front of me were the judges. I asked one of them if I could stick around in the audience and watch. Two of the judges were ok with it - Simon Cowell was indifferent to my presence! - and I took a seat to the right of the judges podium. Whilst sat there I told the female judge (Cheryl Cole) about the passing of my son and explained that I was a Stage Manager before I decided to become a Mother. She expressed sympathy and asked Simon Cowell if there were any jobs available. He said he'd see what he could do. The show went live, but I didn't watch. I was looking down at a baby in my arms. This baby had enormous emerald eyes - they were the only thing I could look at. Someone came up behind me and I looked around to see a man dressed in black asking me to move to the back of the auditorium. As I looked down again at the baby in my arms, his face had been cut away and was replaced with machinery. The babies skull was there, but no face and no eyes, just cogs and electrical circuitry. I got up and walked to the back of the auditorium with the man, and once I got there I woke up. It was really unusual. When I woke up, i was sure the baby was my son, but Kael had blue eyes and due to the brain damage he only opened his eyes a few times, for a very short period of time and they never fully opened. Now the image of the eyes and the machinery are ecthed into my memory and i can't think what they mean. To anyone who understands dreams, please let me know what you think. Thanks, with Love Magrimm |
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I can't translate dreams well If I had to guess it sounds like the "EGO" created fear out of your dreams.. try and remember too that no matter how much outside advice you can get Last edited by themaster; 11-29-2009 at 08:46 AM. |
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With other of my four children, the bond was less or more, depending on the child, but with this one, she was definitely present from the start. I actually felt it when she was conceived, I felt her presence (I can't explain that, either). You say you felt his presence throughout your pregnancy, and I believe you did. I'd say he was there, and what other people say about babies is their business. You know what was going on with you and your son. Quote:
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