Discussion of guides and information

[erego]

I'm actually not asking for help, for once, and just want to have a free flow support discussion.

Spoken with my guides. Roped myself a guide that assists in my contacting other spiritual guides and other entities; a conduit guide, I believe. I asked for it just yesterday I think. Mediumship is not my life path, and I'm spending too much time on it, so my guide said :P

Anyway, I was told last night that there was a female ghost in my room who meant to harm me, but they got rid of it. I was surprised. Asked why and they said it's 'cause I'm new to this and regardless of how I protect myself, they will still come. IS THIS TRUE?! :O I'm not freaked out, just...wow, didn't know that.

Otherwise, also learned that when I do guide meeting, it's better for me to return to the place I started from (ie where you started the meditation imagining) because if I just go back to my physical body, a bit of my soul will remain in the guide-meeting-place. This came from my animal totem that I met from John Edward's meditation guide.

What is an animal totem? Are they guides? What are the differences?

What are your experiences and surprising information that you've gotten?

Any tips and techniques for better receiving of information? For me I actually 'see' and hear better when I'm seated, but with my arms supporting myself and legs out, rather than the classic lotus pose or lying down.

[Erin Pavlina]

When you are a medium, spirits on the other side see a light above your head or around you and know that if they try real hard, you might hear them or pass along a message for them. Comes with the job. When I first started I would be having a conversation with a sales person in a storea nd suddenly start getting messages from their grandmother. It was really weird. After passing along a few messages I discovered that not everyone wants me in their "stuff" or wants to hear the messages, so I stopped doing that unless I was asked or unless my own guides said it would be okay to pass along the message.

Today my conduit guide prevents people from making unwanted contact with me. So now when I'm at a party or out with friends or something, I'm not carrying around a cadre of spirits around me. I'm just me. Ask your posse, your crew, to allow in only what you want, and when you want.

Yes, animal totems are great. Those can change as you move through life. Get the animal guide book by Stephen Farmer for more info.

[JanT]

Hi erego -
It has been my experience that as our light grows brighter (we become more spiritually aware) - others will be drawn to our light - and yes, that can mean negative entities as well as positive.

Shielding self and home (removing negativity and bubbling in white light) is one way to gain some control over the negative entites approaching. (free podcast on my blog to help walk you through the process). And yes, our guides can help with that as well.

it's better for me to return to the place I started from (ie where you started the meditation imagining) because if I just go back to my physical body, a bit of my soul will remain in the guide-meeting-place.

I have never heard of this before. I do know that trauma can result in partial soul loss - but never have I experienced what you described. (I know, no help there!)

Animal totems are animal guides. I believe that we each come in to this lifetime with at least one life guide and one life totem. "Specialist" guides and totems move in and out of our lives as needed.

Animal guides bring messages, support, and guidance (just like our other guides). One way that I like accessing the totem info is using Ted Andrews "Animal-Speak" book. He has animals; goes into the animal's habits and provides possible message information for each animal.

There is also meditation - talking to the animal guide to get the message.

As for tips for hearing better - I found that the more I practiced, and the more I trusted myself (had faith that I was hearing better and correctly) - it all worked out. I think it's trial and error for each individual. Seems to me that you have begun that process:

For me I actually 'see' and hear better when I'm seated, but with my arms supporting myself and legs out

During daytime, I do better seated on the couch (crossed legged) or at the table. At nighttime, I will work before I go to sleep - laying in bed.

As for what surprising information have I gotten - not sure what you think is surprising.

Mediumship is not my life path, and I'm spending too much time on it, so my guide said :P

I ran into this myself. Anytime I would focus on refining a single ability - my guides would tell me I was spending too much time on it. Very frustrating! I finally 'complained' to them that I felt I was a 'jack of all trades, but master of none'. My guides weren't impressed with my compaint.

Turns out they were preparing me to be able to switch between multiple abilities - as the needs dictated - to help others. That led to begin teaching twenty years ago. So, even though I (as in the ego-I) felt I needed to perfect each ability, my guides and higher self really knew what I needed to be doing. Ha! Go figure. Oh, and turns out, even though I was guided to quit trying to perfect outlaying abilities, they really do work when they are needed. (Is that egg on my face?)

[codenamesmiley]

Hi Jan,

That is not egg on your face. That is merely meaning that it is now time in your life to get over trust issues. What better way to do so, than to stop just depending on your own self and trusting that your guides and Angels will handle things for you, even when you are not consciously obsessing over the outcome.
How wonderful for you!

Blessings,
Rebecca

[erego]

I have never heard of this before. I do know that trauma can result in partial soul loss - but never have I experienced what you described. (I know, no help there!)

I don't think it is a loss of soul; I think it was a sense of, a bit of soul lingering in the place, more of like a string between you and that. I'll ask them again. I might be wrong with receiving information

In contrast to you being a jack of all trades, JanT, up to recently I've been one myself and my lesson this life is to decide, very related to focus deeply on one thing. Amusing.

Thanks guys. Will check out those books. Animal totem is a big puzzle to me.

P.S: Erin, which title is it?

[Erin Pavlina]

I think it's just called Animal Guides. Stephen Farmer.

[Mato Kinze]

Originally Posted by erego

I don't think it is a loss of soul; I think it was a sense of, a bit of soul lingering in the place, more of like a string between you and that.

erego,
I follow a Native American spiritual tradition and interacting with Animal Allies (totems) and Journeying are both a large part of that tradition.

"Animal Speak" is a fine primer for totemic study, but nothing beats a live teacher - someone who can help guide you through the Nagual, teach you about Journeying and help you open up to your Guides and other allies.

For my part, I have a very strong "Life Totem" or "Power Animal" that has been with me since I was born and remains my constant companion, teacher and protector. During Journeys, I also interact with many other Allies in their animal forms. I've been given messages from Spider, Trout, Fox, Snake, Racoon, and so many others that it's impossible to list.

As for the issue of "lingering" that is absolutely a potential risk and that lingering can lead to Soul Loss. Sometimes, when we are connected in a strong spiritual way, whether through Journeying or Meditation or whatever means you use to connect, we do so in a very fundamental way that our spirit recognizes. If we are not concious of this, it can be very tempting to stay too long in that realm. If we do not conciously bring ourselves back or have someone help call us back in an appropriate manner, we can lose a small bit our spirit in the translation.

That's the bad news. The good news is that that portion of spirit is pretty easily regained. Much easier to regain a "lingering" spirit than one which was lost due to physical or emotional trauma. Those bits tend to want to stay hidden and can be obstinate to bring back.

[erego]

Thanks for the title Erin.

Mato Kinze,

Since you follow the Native American tradition, perhaps you could help me understand it better. I don't understand how animal totems, which I assume is something entirely Native American, can be applied to everyone; ie, I'm not Native American (NA), I don't believe what NAs believe, so why or how can I have animal totems? Unless...animal totems are with everyone, just NA could see these things (first) and incorporated into their beliefs. Would appreciate your thoughts on this

Otherwise, had a most interesting experience yesterday morning. Was asleep and in my dream heard a loud, clear voice (am clairaudient) say, "We're bored...[etc]" and the scene changed to me on a street, seated in front of cafe. I unplugged my earphones to make sure the voice wasn't from the ipod. The voice continued, with the gist of, We're bored, get out of here, get out of here or else we'll scare ya. Me, being dense, didn't realise it wasn't my guides so I ignored it. It continued by describing the various spirits it saw on the streets, with "their smiles slashed" etc, and I ignored it. By this time I finally got that oh, they're not my guides! so just to make sure, I did the white light protection (in my dream, wasn't lucid) and said, "I disallow any negative entities--" at which point they backed off. Ahh.

Asked my guides about it in meditation. Was chastised by my animal totem not to interact with them (I mistook the entity for my animal guide, until it said, "[your guide name] will kill you" and was 'saved' by the real one). Guides told me even though I do the white light protection and it keeps out most of them, but when their vibes are impersonating/similar to my guides, I mistake them and I bring them in. I need to know my guides, in the sense of recognising their energies, before I call them (by their names). Also, the ex-protocol was that I let in whatever comes (!!) and now we have something else in place about who communicates with me etc.

Ahh! Another experience. Sharing it as well for the purpose if it might help someone who's developing.

[Mato Kinze]

Originally Posted by erego

Thanks for the title Erin.

Mato Kinze,

Since you follow the Native American tradition, perhaps you could help me understand it better. I don't understand how animal totems, which I assume is something entirely Native American, can be applied to everyone; ie, I'm not Native American (NA), I don't believe what NAs believe, so why or how can I have animal totems? Unless...animal totems are with everyone, just NA could see these things (first) and incorporated into their beliefs. Would appreciate your thoughts on this

Animal Totems are not confined to Native Americans. Indigineous peoples all over the world share a similar understanding and experience of Spirit in their personal lives and recognize the energies they experience as related in aspect to the animals they see in their world. But Spirit is Spirit, no matter how we recognize it. As Shakespere said, "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet."

The energies I encounter in my Journeys have occurred to me as "animals" because that's how I understand their Medicine. The exact same energy may occur to you as an amorphous white light, or disembodied voice.

Also, not believing in something doesn't make it cease to exist. You just as easily could say you don't believe in the color blue. Trust me... the color blue doesn't care one whit whether you believe in it or not.

[MichaelP]

Originally Posted by erego

Otherwise, also learned that when I do guide meeting, it's better for me to return to the place I started from (ie where you started the meditation imagining) because if I just go back to my physical body, a bit of my soul will remain in the guide-meeting-place. This came from my animal totem that I met from John Edward's meditation guide.

I'm not familiar with this particular cause of the loss of soul facets, but if valid I can tell you that it's nothing to take lightly. Lose enough and you'll be in a bad situation. They can be restored, but if they aren't for some reason you'll not enjoy the result.

[Anna Conlan]

I don't think it is a loss of soul; I think it was a sense of, a bit of soul lingering in the place, more of like a string between you and that. I'll ask them again. I might be wrong with receiving information

Hi Erego,

I don't think you could lose any part of yourself by 'lingering' in the spirit realm, but you'll certainly be less present to the here and now if you do that. When I'm finished reading the Akashic Record or talking to someone's Spirit Guides, I consciously intend to leave all of that energy behind. (I used to do a visualization to leave it behind but now I just intend it.)

Might be a good idea to do that too if you're talking to your Guides often.

[Quest4Spirit]

Hi All,

This is my first time here in this wonderful forum. Though I have been reading for the wonderful Steve Pavlina for over two and half years, and though I have enjoyed reading many posts before in this wonderful intriguing place, and though I have had my intuition nagging me a thousand of times before to register here, though all of these happened, two days ago I couldn't cope up with my intuition nagging and decided to register this morning. So Hi all. I love you all.

However, I would like to show my deep gratitude and admiration to a single person here whom I always felt in sync with her and her messages. I always feel that there is something that is connecting me to her. This single person whom I admire most and love most is Mato Kinze. I love you Mato. We never spoke before, or may be we spoke on some other plane. Yet I love you. I love you. I love you.

Hi all once again, and I am indebted to the Spirit to be a memeber in such a formidable forum that host such formidable free souls..

Blessings to you all..

[Albalida]

I've always been an animal lover, so the idea of totems or other animal soul guides have been very appealing, but... in Source-spirituality, why does the form matter?

Couldn't a guide or angel-- even one's higher self-- appear as an animal?
Couldn't a "totem" be an inanimate object, that resonates with the same meaning? What if the animal totem is... a human being? Is that possible?

[Brown Eyed Mystic]

Today my conduit guide prevents people from making unwanted contact with me. So now when I'm at a party or out with friends or something, I'm not carrying around a cadre of spirits around me. I'm just me. Ask your posse, your crew, to allow in only what you want, and when you want.

Wow reminds me of that movie..."Ghost Town" where the guy was not so privileged I loved watching it

[Erin Pavlina]

Great movie. Enjoyed it. Love Ricky Gervais.

[seramadis]

Hi! I'm new here!

Does anyone here, or has anyone here ever known of anyone who, have a friend like an invisible or imaginary friend that follows them around everywhere and is always (well almost always) with them? Is that what a spirit guide could be like, or if it really is just an imaginary friend? Or maybe you're just crazy hehe?

[rei]

i don't think you're crazy - you wouldn't know you were crazy if you were crazy.
what you describe sounds like it could be a spiritual guide, yes. or a guardian energy, like a guardian angel.

does this friend try to communicate with you or is it just always/almost always around?

welcome to the forum!

[seramadis]

Hi Rei! Thank you!

This *imaginary* person has always been there since I was very little. I used to think it was a fairy when I was little.

Oh and we are always chatting! Or chattering hehe!

[rei]

you're welcome if you enjoy how it feels to interact with that energy, and if you know others don't see it, i think it is a guide and you are not crazy.

does the energy seem to have answers about your purpose or even something like whether to take route A or route B? have you acted on something it has said and it turned out to be the best way to go about it?

or is it more like, uh, only small talk?

[seramadis]

Hi again! Huy I have no idea what we talk about! Everything. Like whether I would like to eat apple pie or custard to the meaning of life and the universe and anything else interesting to talk about.

Although an interesting thing since I realized that there are lots of guides out there and I don't seem to always hear them very well my friend seems to act as an intermediary when I don't hear the others and will tell me, they say this and that. This and that (from the other ones out there) always seem to be very good advice.

[themaster]

Funny.. a power animals thread is revived and I just posted mine in a thread within the last 48 hours?

What a *coincidence* (btw, for the record I don't make a habit of posting on all my sync's on this forum.. this is just a interesting one )

[rei]

hmm... interesting.

does your friend seem to have your best interest in mind? does this friend seem to ever get upset with you, like when you asked to hear from other guides? have you asked 3x whether this friend is fully aligned with christ consciousness? (universal law - asking 3x requires a true answer)?

i dunno, i get a weird vibe about your situation but i don't know what that would be about.

[seramadis]

This friend is like an older sister to me. It's a friend and we can talk about anything. I don't know if she ever gets angry at me, can't remember that happening though. Maybe it's just my mind? I mean like maybe I'm just talking to myself?

[rei]

well you could get an answer if you do that thing where you ask 3x whether it is an energy fully aligned with christ consciousness that has your highest good in mind.

a lot of people when they first start connecting consciously with their guides will wonder if it's all in their heads. so i don't know. i think what you're describing could be genuine, and even if something about it feels off to me, that may be more about how you're choosing to describe it than anything else.

i talk to my guides about 'trivial' things as well. only they would not say that because they don't think anything that matters enough to me to speak with them about is trivial.

does your mood state change when you connect with this friend? and are the conversations in actual words or thoughts? what i mean by your mood state changing, is do you feel different when you compare how it feels to communicate with the friend to how it feels when you haven't been talking to this friend. do you tend to feel better or worse - NOT just the general lift we feel when we know we are cared for enough for a conversation, i mean before the conversation starts when you first notice your friend is visiting you, before any words are thought or spoken, how does it feel for the friend to be around?

if you think i'm pushing you can ignore my questions. i'm not really trying to be pushy. just to understand.

[seramadis]

Oh thank you so much for your questions Rei! You're not being pushy at all!

Of course this person is really good for me! I have no doubt about that. Anyways she has always been there and I really could never live without having her with me.

Can I PM you? Maybe Erin Pavlina would understand about these things too, but she is very busy.

[rei]

i don't quite understand why you want to use the private message option. this thread is for discussing spiritual guides and that's what we are doing, and the thread is actually pretty old so i think, since we're on topic and it's a few months old, no one cares if we simply discuss this here. if there is some reason you aren't comfortable discussing it openly you can send a PM but i don't really think that is necessary.

i also think you're scared of losing your friend. you're obviously resisting the 3x question idea because you're afraid of what will happen if this friend really doesn't have your best interest in mind. that's understandable. but if this friend distracts you from your path or even just takes time away from meaningful real-world interactions, your loyalty may not be needed for you (meaning your loyalty might better be toward yourself). but i totally understand if this is what you've always known why you would hesitate.

were you being literal when you said you couldn't live without her? or were you saying you don't want to even bear thinking about how lonely you might feel?

does your friend ever want to talk when really, you were in the middle of enjoying yourself?

maybe i am totally off, but again with the weird vibe for what you're describing. the way my own guides work, they want me to remember that i am the co-creator of my experience. to keep in mind how much power i really have. so any time i start relying on them too much, they get quiet so i can remember how i am totally capable of figuring stuff out without running it by them. they have my best interest in mind, and apparently i've asked them to get quiet if i start to depend on them too much. so the first day they get quiet i'm a little sad, miss the way it feels when they connect, miss how easy it is to get answers to my questions. but then i remember that i'm supposed to honor my personal power and find answers within me, not always by asking someone or something what to do. so within a day or two i get over the initial loneliness because i realize it really is for my highest good.

[seramadis]

Hi! Well I wanted to PM you so I could explain where my friend came from, because to understand where she came from you must understand my childhood, which I never speak about to anyone.

I already asked her the 3x question like you said, it was the first thing I did as soon as I read it and my friend just laughed and said I already knew where she came from and to ask inside my heart if I felt she was evil or if I felt like she was from G-d. Of course you can imagine the answer.

As to what you explain about the way it seems to work with your own guides, that describes exactly how it is with me, and that is exactly the sort of loneliness or sadness I mean.

I'm going to post this post now and then I will tell you on this forum where my friend came from, but in a new post because it's getting late for me and I don't know if I will have time to finish it. So at least I can send off this post here before I must run. Have a great day!

[rei]

oh ok, sensitive childhood stuff... that's fine to talk about in a private message if you are reluctant for a bunch of people to see. this place is anonymous but i understand we aren't always comfortable with a bunch of people knowing things even if it is anonymous. and i'm guessing there's some type of trauma involved, so if you want to keep that private that's fine and i'm sorry i was being difficult about it.

i'll watch for the next thing from you, whether it's here in this thread or in a PM.

the thing about the sadness and loneliness is it is temporary. when i remember that they are acting for my highest good, if it's after a very long period of connecting many times a day then it may take a minute for me to create my own joy, but that's a big part of it too. not relying on anything but internal resources for joy. i mean, socializing or a fun game or something sure that's great too if it gives a little something extra, but the idea is when they get quiet (because i asked them to) they help me remember i have good coping skills. and they will always come in if i need to hear something, like if i would possibly be in danger or something. that doesn't change. they still connect for important things. but it's about a want vs. a need. if i really need them, they are there, but if i just want them because i'm depending on them too much, they know i've asked them to back off a little when that happens. i don't know if i am explaining this very well.

if you had a childhood that was hard, i hope you have developed or are working on a support system that also includes some physical level things like friends or a trusted mentor, things like that. just makes it easier when we have a difficult day, and might take away some of that pressure i still sense you have related to your friend. almost like yes, she is a good friend to you, but part of it is you feel like you *need* her. not just nice to have around. and if you developed some more physical-level ways to feel supported, maybe that need would not be as strong... and i may totally misunderstand that.

i hope you have a nice evening and a good night's rest.

[seramadis]

Hi I'm back again but only for a short while. Thanks for wishing me a good night's sleep, although here in Europe it's early morning and time to rush off and do the usual daytime routine!

Well to give an example of what I might talk about with my friend, I was just taking the kids to school and they were giving out coupons for discounts to see a circus. I talk with my friend all the time but I don't usually think about what I talk about, so I don't remember what we talk about.

Anyways so I told my friend I wasn't going to see the circus. She asked me why I wasn't going to see the circus, and then she launched into a long discourse about the Law of Attraction and manifestations and how the universe is expanding and how supply meets demand rather than having to restrict our demands to the supply and etc. etc. Because she knew I was going to tell her that we weren't going to the circus because I didn't have money to go to the circus.

So she asked me if I WANTED to go to the circus. I said no. She said if the real reason I didn't want to go to the circus was because I REALLY didn't want to go to see the circus, or if it was because I was scared of not having enough money to go to the circus, or that if I was scared that if I went to the circus then I wouldn't have money to pay the bills etc. (You see she always tries to make me think and to think about things I think wrong, so I can correct them I guess. So I can be aware that I am thinking wrong and not just go around on automatic pilot I guess.)

She said if I imagined that I was a real successful professional person and had loads of money, then would I then want to take the kids to see the circus.

So I said she had explained the Law of Attraction and the law of supply and demand etc. etc. already loads of times, but that I still didn't understand it and I couldn't see the point in it and I couldn't see any of it showing up in my life. You know my usual pessimistic charade. I said everything she told me I could read it in a book. So she didn't say anything.

Then I told her not to TELL it to me, not to explain it, I said SHOW me. So she said well if you want the right answer you must ask the right question. (Duh! Well I could ask her doesn't she already know the right question without me asking it etc., but I know how spirits always reply to that one, so...........)

Then she explained that the way this (manifestation) works, is, the motor of manifestation is your FEELINGS, your desire, how strongly you desire something and how excited you feel about getting it. When you FEEL desire very intensely about something and you are very excited about getting it, that is what starts the process of manifestation into action. So she said if I really WANTED to go to the circus, did I really really desire to go to the circus, if it made me feel excited thinking about going to see the circus.

I said no I actually felt the idea of going to the circus quite boring. We'd already been to see the circus a few months ago and even though we enjoyed it and had a great time it also wasn't the highlight of my life, and my kids also hadn't been mad about it either. And I could imagine so many more interesting things to be spending our time doing rather than going to the circus again.

So my friend said THAT is why I wouldn't manifest the money into my life to be able to take my kids to the circus. Not because I consider myself poor or have an image of myself as being poor etc.

I'm sorry long post, but that is a typical conversation between my friend and me.

P.S. Oh she says I don't need to convince anyone about who she is or what she is like, she doesn't give a hoot what other people think of her lol! (Wish there were more kinds of smileys!)

[seramadis]

Okay so I guess maybe she makes me question myself, study myself, try to get to know myself and see what makes me tick, look at myself from the outside rather than just mosey along on automatic.

I would've just thought we weren't going to the circus because we were too poor to go to the circus lol!