Aliens

[borisg]

Erin, are aliens evolved human beings visiting us from the future?

[themaster]

Ohh my.. where to start with you

Forget it I give up.. here are the words of my teacher.. I believe he speaks the truth but you'll have to approach with a open mind and see if the material resonates with you..

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[newsbone]

Originally Posted by borisg

Erin, are aliens evolved human beings visiting us from the future?

You have a vividly creative imagination!

[tintin]

why newsie?

you dont like the thought of aliens? the idea rocks your world huh?

[Erin Pavlina]

I know more than I can say and not as much as I hope. Research.

[Happiness]

Can some of them be our guides? I always have a feeling that some of my guides are aliens...could this be possible?

[Erin Pavlina]

You may have guides I would regard as celestial beings. I dont' think aliens would be an appropriate word for them though.

aliens are possibly other organic life forms incarnated into physical bodies. But spirit guides are not physical or on this plane.

[borisg]

I was at a wedding this past weekend and was discussing with some people about how much the world had evolved in the last two hundred years. The concensus was that so much change in the ways humans interact in this physical world is such little time would be bound to change our physical appareance...as has been the case over the last couple of million years..

As we become more spiritual and more cerebral I would think our bodies over time would evolve to support these changes. I would imagine a larger head, smaller body, smaller overall footprint as we take up less physical space for a variety of reasons...

Anyways the conversation took us to the point that we could end up looking like "aliens" one day...the idea of throwing in time travel was a fit because it would explain how NASA or other defense agencies don't see UFOs in space but they have been spotted and filmed closer to earth.

Anyways... I know that you know!! Now you know that I know

[Holistic Star]

In my soul realignment training I've learned that only 75% of people on Earth are 'Earthers' in that they always incarnate on Earth and no-where else.

The other 25% have incarnated on other planets before starting a sequence of incarnating here on Earth. You express the energy of your original planet of incarnation with you into your human life.

(Like say if you grew up in France, but moved to the UK as a young adult, you'd still have a an accent and some French mannerisms and customs that you kept to, even if you adopted your new country as home).




So (to paraphrase an old joke) - ask 3 friends if they are from Earth. If they're not aliens, it means the alien is you!

[coLLege kid07]

If you want a scientific answer to your question. I believes there is an equation that calculates this. Of course all the answers are subjective so it leaves it up to whatever you think. (for the most part that is)

I forget what it was but I used it in my astronomy class. My specific answer came up to 100,000 Earth like planets that are possibly out there. And probably a couple thousand that generated earth like creatures.

[Dharma]

Originally Posted by borisg

Erin, are aliens evolved human beings visiting us from the future?

Nope. We have alien DNA in our bodies though. We are the evolved ones so to speak. While they've mastered time/space and have all sorts of cool technology, they've pretty much painted themselves into an evolutionary corner. They're gong to die out unless the unevolved humans wake from their slumber and be the creators that they are.

A grounded emotional body is one slick piece of technology, though few would think it so.

[Old Soul]

Originally Posted by borisg

Erin, are aliens evolved human beings visiting us from the future?

This may sound "Glib" however it is not meant to , please let me explain

Here is a cute story, this passed winter we were on our way to a family gathering, it was snowing like mad, we stopped to use the bathroom at a Tm Hortons, we get there, and all these machines pulled up in the parking lot, these machines were different than what we use, to get us from one place to the next .. our machines were inclosed theirs were open , i think theirs were better designed for the snow , much safer, maybe even more fun to navigate in too!!
and in comes all these "beings", they had ovally egg shaped heads, or at least their helmets did, some of these helmets looked like they had breathing apparatises attached to them, they were also wearing thick heavy suits

when they came into the store the first thing that popped out of my mouth in jest was " help Aiens"~! thank goodness they had a sense of humor , they took off their oval shapped helmets and laughed with me!!!!

turns out what i thought were aliens, were just Snowmobilers!!


Lets say I lived in a different time, and peeked into the future , like Fred flinstone peeking in on the Jetsons........... i bet Fred would call the jetsons
Aliens, and I would think snow mobilers were Aliens because these people would be strange , foreign to me, after all i dont know the culture the advancment


I do think as humans we are still evolving, if their are Aliens here right now I am sure they feel like strangers in a strange land

Angels ? guides? demons? tis a riddle indeed

[Old Soul]

Originally Posted by Dharma

Nope. We have alien DNA in our bodies though. We are the evolved ones so to speak. While they've mastered time/space and have all sorts of cool technology, they've pretty much painted themselves into an evolutionary corner. They're gong to die out unless the unevolved humans wake from their slumber and be the creators that they are.

A grounded emotional body is one slick piece of technology, though few would think it so.

here is a neat video (DNA) Gnome on twins


NOVA | scienceNOW | Epigenetics | PBS

[Zanriel]

I was listening to an interview with Russel Targ and he believes "aliens" as we know them are most likely people from the future. They travel space and time. Stuart Wilde in his book "Sixth Sense" believes that "Greys" are astral entities - not physical at all, and not really very nice.

Since I've had no personal experience, I'm not sure exactly what to think. I believe either explanation is possible. Either alternative, whether from another time or another space, would require a HUGE amount of energy. Wherever so-called aliens come from, if they're actual physical beings, I believe they do have mastary of space AND time. That's the only way they'd be able to traverse such vast distances without going through hundreds (if not thousands or millions) of generations on the way. If they're future versions of ourselves, then they'd still have to be masters of time, which I believe also requires a mastery of space (and very likely consciousness). If they're purely astral beings, then the most curious thing is the physical evidence such as lights in the sky or some of the photographs. It's all so bizarre.

What that doesn't explain to me is why so many encounters carry themes of fear and domination and why they often come across as so cold, mechanical, and... alien. At least when it comes to the "Greys". That's why I'm also of the opinion that some of them are probably good, but some are probably bad. I'd be perfectly happy if I never encountered one in my life. I'm not really curious enough to find out.

That being said, I did have a vision / lucid dream / OBE of meeting one of my spirit guides, and he/she revealed to me that he/she was not of this Earth. I've also felt other promptings that have led me to suspect that I haven't spent very many lifetimes here on this planet, but I'm more "alien" than "earthling" in my soul's journey.

In the conversation about aliens, you might also get into whole NWO/Illuminati/Reptilian conspiracy crap that's been circulating for so many years. There's even controversy over the Pleadians - which ones are the real ones? Barbara Clow's Pleadians or the other ones people have supposedly contacted? What about the Arcturians? So... who knows? The real question is - how does either alternative apply to real life? What can you take from it either way? That's where the conversation about aliens really makes my head spin. Either it makes all the difference in the world or it makes no difference at all. How many angels CAN you fit on the head of a pin?

[Anagogy]

Originally Posted by Zanriel

I was listening to an interview with Russel Targ and he believes "aliens" as we know them are most likely people from the future. They travel space and time. Stuart Wilde in his book "Sixth Sense" believes that "Greys" are astral entities - not physical at all, and not really very nice.

From what I've learned in my research of the subject, he's probably not too far off. Certainly some "aliens" could be "us in the future" trying to make alterations in the time line for some reason or another. Some are most definitely otherworldly. As I understand it, grey beings are not completely physical as we are familiar with the term. They are between astral and physical, almost what some might call "etheric", a less dense material. They live in hyperspace, and are what we might term "cybergenetic androids" -- biological machines without an "integrated soul". They are like 4-dimensional "probes" for the Reptilian beings, whom are also residents of this more "fine" spatial matter of hyperspace. Through the use of technology they are able shift themselves into our more solid universe, and conduct whatever business they have with our level of density.

Originally Posted by Zanriel

Since I've had no personal experience, I'm not sure exactly what to think. I believe either explanation is possible. Either alternative, whether from another time or another space, would require a HUGE amount of energy.

Perhaps, but then "huge" is relative. Maybe just more efficient use of the energy sources we know of would net us the power we need to traverse ALL manners of space, including the space of time.

Originally Posted by Zanriel

Wherever so-called aliens come from, if they're actual physical beings, I believe they do have mastary of space AND time. That's the only way they'd be able to traverse such vast distances without going through hundreds (if not thousands or millions) of generations on the way. If they're future versions of ourselves, then they'd still have to be masters of time, which I believe also requires a mastery of space (and very likely consciousness). If they're purely astral beings, then the most curious thing is the physical evidence such as lights in the sky or some of the photographs. It's all so bizarre.

Its interesting when you study the concept of the fourth dimension, the seemingly bizarre behavior of UFO's and the phenomena that occurs during so called abductions starts to click into place (disappearing, reappearing, stopping time, going through walls, etc.) and make sense.

Originally Posted by Zanriel

What that doesn't explain to me is why so many encounters carry themes of fear and domination and why they often come across as so cold, mechanical, and... alien. At least when it comes to the "Greys". That's why I'm also of the opinion that some of them are probably good, but some are probably bad. I'd be perfectly happy if I never encountered one in my life. I'm not really curious enough to find out.

The cold and clinical feel of certain abductions is a key indicator one is not involved with beings that have your best interests at heart. Positive extraterrestrials do not make you feel like a scared laboratory animal, and there is no feeling of having been "abducted" but rather "contacted".

Originally Posted by Zanriel

That being said, I did have a vision / lucid dream / OBE of meeting one of my spirit guides, and he/she revealed to me that he/she was not of this Earth. I've also felt other promptings that have led me to suspect that I haven't spent very many lifetimes here on this planet, but I'm more "alien" than "earthling" in my soul's journey.

There has been a heavy influx of predominately ET souls on this planet in the last 30 years do the need to lighten this planetary sphere, for the radical acceleration in spirituality this planet will soon undergo. Think of it as giving the earth a new blood transfusion to combat the miasma of darkness that was engulfing the planet.

Originally Posted by Zanriel

In the conversation about aliens, you might also get into whole NWO/Illuminati/Reptilian conspiracy crap that's been circulating for so many years. There's even controversy over the Pleadians - which ones are the real ones? Barbara Clow's Pleadians or the other ones people have supposedly contacted? What about the Arcturians? So... who knows? The real question is - how does either alternative apply to real life? What can you take from it either way? That's where the conversation about aliens really makes my head spin. Either it makes all the difference in the world or it makes no difference at all. How many angels CAN you fit on the head of a pin?

That depends on the size of the pin.....

Just kidding.

Alot of information out there seems crazy, and perhaps much of it is. All we can really do is soak in the information and look in our heart to see if we feel any truth in it. Some things cannot be known with the head, but only with the heart. Over the course of my life, I've been shocked at the heretofore "implausible" things that over the course of my evolution, then became plausible. At this point, I discount nothing, and just quietly absorb everything people throw forward, and watch for whatever glue comes out of the woodwork to fit the pieces together.

Discernment is very important to effective spiritual growth.

[newsbone]

Originally Posted by tintin

why newsie?

you dont like the thought of aliens? the idea rocks your world huh?

Nope Tinnie! Just makes it more interesting for it seems we are not alone thus God is still working his experiments! Intriguing is it not?

[jnms]

Everything anyone needs to know about Aliens right here:

Discerning Alien Disinformation: Part 1 - Alien Agenda

[tintin]

aw newsie do i see you warming up to the ETs??

[spirit4711]

Originally Posted by Dharma

Nope. We have alien DNA in our bodies though.
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Care to elaborate on this? What specifically is the alien DNA in our bodies? How do you know it is alien?

[Old Soul]

Originally Posted by spirit4711

Care to elaborate on this? What specifically is the alien DNA in our bodies? How do you know it is alien?

yes i would like to know that too, as I have read this theory online and did not quite understand it


here is a so called pic of an (dead) alien ( warning graphic)

File:Alienautopsy-3-2008-2.gif - The Black Vault Encyclopedia Project

[newsbone]

Originally Posted by tintin

aw newsie do i see you warming up to the ETs??

Yep! But not in the manner that makes them superior to me nor independent from God for he works in mysterious ways!

[Zanriel]

The Alien Autopsy was revealed to be a hoax. Then again, maybe they just say it was a hoax to try to throw people off. Hmm...

[Old Soul]

Originally Posted by jnms

Everything anyone needs to know about Aliens right here:

Discerning Alien Disinformation: Part 1 - Alien Agenda

INDIGO CHILDREN - CRYSTALLINE CHILDREN, channeled, reawaken, shamin

INDIGO CHILDREN - CRYSTALLINE CHILDREN

Subj: Crystalline Children ~Channeled from the Ascended Masters ~
Date: 6/4/2002
~ From: Keth Luke ~
Subject: Crystalline Children
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002

"Awakening-Healing News" Letter of Light,
"Light Family News" Spiritual Energy Healing Spiritual Astrology Healing Certified Spiritual Healing
Crystalline Children
Channeling from the Ascended Masters June 4th, 2002
Anshallah, antui nahadre entu ansham. Therefore, we come to you with great illumination of Light.

It is that on this occasion we wish to speak to you of the children. It is that for many years of your earth time, your children have
been arriving with the gifts as it was in the
beginning. These children inherently carry that which is the crystalline energies. Not only are these energetics crystalline in nature,
they are also carrying the harmonics of the pyramids, those which are tetrahedronal in form. These pyramids carrying an entirety
of the spectrum of light. The Sacred Spiral. This meaning a fullness of the spectrum of light and frequencies. A complete set of
energies. Perfection in existence.

This combination of light energies is perfection Universal. These children are able to function as pure energy within their
consciousness. These little Beings are coming with the abilities to see past the illusions. The abilities to travel within their
consciousnesses throughout the dimensional realms. They are able to see past the illusions that are created within your third
dimensional realities.

It is that these children are able to communicate telepathically, and are speaking to others in other dimensions as a normal event in
the course of their play. It is that these children understand that which you do not. That reality is not limited to that which is what you
see, hear, feel, taste and smell, but a much greater reality that is beyond your physical manifestations.

[Hyperchiller]

If you consider how big the universe is, there are bound to be other galaxies that should have lifeforms that can accept souls.

I'm pretty sure from my research, Sirius, Arcturus, Pleiades, Vega, and other places hold the capacity for incarnation experiences.

Earth is a great place to be though. There's a lot of growth here

There are also negative aliens but there's no point in going there.