Weird meditation experiences

[Dolazy]

Some time ago I wrote a blog entry about certain experiences I have during meditation. I wonder if any of you can comment on what they are and if they have anything to do with spiritual things.

I would appreciate your thoughts and insights on this. Please do share if you have experienced similar things...

Upon the request of Jill, this is the essential text of the post:

I just had a special meditation. I lay on my bed and tried observe my body as something separate from me. That is, I tried to observe my body as if my body is a physical tool for operating in this world, but not who I am. This kind of observing is described in the book “The power of Now” by Eckhart Tolle. I started to feel numbness like Esther Hicks describes in the introduction of the book “Ask and it is Given”. It was as if the synchronisation of my spirit and my body started to “shift”.

The muscles at my throat started to tighten very intensely and my mouth opened very wide. It tried to pull more and more open. This lasted a while. I started to feel like I was going to choke. Suddenly the muscles relaxed.

The muscles of my neck tightened very hard now. My face started to tremble very intensely. The trembling evolved into shuddering. After half a minute of this it stopped abruptly.

A gentle wave of relaxation went over my entire body. Now I felt like I was floating in space. I didn’t feel my weight.

My eyes were opening a little bit, to the point where can’t say whether they are opened or closed, but really in between. My eyelids trembled a bit to hold this very precise position, but it felt very relaxing.

Now it’s getting weird. I felt that like my hands wanted to move, but not by themselves: it was as if somebody OTHER THAN ME was trying to move my hands! It felt like someone had entered my body. I felt the intention of someone trying to move my hands. I tried to allow this, but I felt like this was a real struggle for him. I felt my whole arms become tenser. Eventually my hands very slowly and with great difficulty rose a little bit, perhaps one or two centimetres.

Francis

[RandomJohn]

Sweet, another INTP!

I have observed myself saying something in the heat of argument, and thinking, "It's not me that's saying this. It's something else speaking through me." Not exactly the same as what you described, but probably cut from the same cloth.

[Dolazy]

Originally Posted by RandomJohn

Sweet, another INTP!

Howdy mate!

Originally Posted by RandomJohn

I have observed myself saying something in the heat of argument, and thinking, "It's not me that's saying this. It's something else speaking through me." Not exactly the same as what you described, but probably cut from the same cloth.

I haven't experienced such a thing yet. Maybe it feels similar I don't know..

[AndyMartin]

That's interesting stuff, Dolazy.

Someone once advised me that, "Wondering if something real is the first step to understanding it and accepting that it could be." One of the hardest thing about unusual experiences like this is trying to interepret them, because we tend to interpret them according to our physical experience, but the same rules don't hold. You are dealing with sensations and manifestations of energy both physical and non-physical, and and it can be confusing.

Alot of what you describe sounds to me like the disassociation of the awareness from the physical. This can lead to astral projection and other profound states once you understand it better. Now, in my book it is entirely possible to encounter non-physical entities in these states, but there are other energies as well. My inclination is that most of what we experience in those states -- until we learn to direct them -- is the result of our intentions. Now, our hopes as well as our fears can manifest intention, so you have to be careful getting into this stuff cause there's stuff out there you probably don't want to attract.

My advice would be to practice empty mind meditation before going into altered awareness. It's like unloading any extra baggage you might be carrying with you. It's less likely that your hidden "can of snake" is going to spring open at the wrong moment.

Plus, it will make it easier to get a "clean" account down on paper before your mind starts making a confused mess of it.

Good luck!

--Andy

[Dolazy]

Thanks for your insightful reply Andy.

Actually most of my meditations start as concentration or empty mind meditations, but they sometimes evolve into this kind of thing. I'm not sure if I should allow this or hold it back. I feel like I should be allowing it as long as it feels good.

However, the shuddering is kinda nasty, but this happens on muscles that are tense. So it seems like a sort of natural progressive relaxation.

Thanks again for your reply, I feel my insight has increased a little again.

[royster]

This is from 2006. It is interesting to view this from the chakra-receptor point of view.