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03-15-2009, 06:25 AM
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It might be more accurate to say present life, as everything is happening right NOW.. but yep.. odds are your oversoul may have a incarnation or more right now.. by my understanding we have about a average of 30 or so running incarnations on this planet/reality per oversoul
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03-15-2009, 06:40 PM
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03-15-2009, 06:51 PM
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Well, im fairly certain the higher self/oversoul normally functions on the 6th dimensional plane, which contains all the possible timelines and realities for this particular universe and does indeed have multiple incarnations - there are some practices in mayan shamanism that help one to "bridge" these parallel selves. So yes, it is totally possible. In fact, some of us only visit earth on occasion ("Its a nice place to visit, but i wouldnt want to live there"). If you want some religious backing, the Bhagavatum (describing Vishnu's creation of the universe, i believe) talks specifically of incarnation across time and space. These things become muddied when we think in a linear fashion, but you are simultaneously all of your future, past, and parallel selves - including non human incarnations - in every moment. Theres a neat video floating around on the internet that gives a quantum physicists view of the different dimensions: YouTube - Imagining the Tenth Dimension (annotated) Everyone is an alien from this perspective, although i think that some souls (all of this from a linear, 3rd/4th dimensional perspective) have had to learn earth lessons for much longer than others, and perhaps more otherworldly people have only been here a few times, if at all, leading the differently experienced souls to have more or less earthy vibrations. There are some interesting books that describe how many extraterrestrial souls who have never/rarely been here have started incarnating to witness and help with some of the paradigm shifts happening on earth. Anyways, some of the first past life memories i had were non human (one of them was being a Satyr, and another was being a pleiadian space-time traveler). I simply thought i was overly imaginative, but within a couple months i had 3 different people i know who read tarot professionally (i used to get readings alot when i was a teenager, primarily to learn about how its done first hand ) who do not know each other read these same exact lives, verbatim. I figure when different people seperated throughout time and space who do not know each other - and are not "lead" - say the same things, there is some truth to it. I also have some past life memories that CANNOT be "englished" or communicated with language as it is on earth. There arent words for some of the incredible things and experiences that exist around the universe Hope that answers your question. If you want sourced answers (quotes, etc) i can provide them later. |
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03-15-2009, 10:21 PM
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03-16-2009, 02:55 AM
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Yah, holy shtz A new age pro.. and from my city no less.. aren't we attracting well today  First time I've ever seen a conversation about oversouls.. first time I've ever mentioned the concept here  BTW, welcome fellow denverite, while I don't need quotes.. I'd love to here your sources for this information.. always looking to learn.. Last edited by themaster; 03-16-2009 at 03:03 AM. |
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03-16-2009, 07:19 AM
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Two good sources for information about the souls migration throughout time and space are the Bhagavatam and a favorite book of mine (brought into my awareness by a totally wild synchronicity) called "Bringers of the Dawn" by Barbara Marciniak. Heres a section of the Bhagavatam that very clearly describes extra terrestrial life and how each planet is a place for a souls karma to be fulfilled. Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 5 Chapter 26 The Bhagavatam is atleast 4000 years old. Jeffayan: Well, the memories i have are kind of, odd. I can imagine there are literally an infinite number of reality programs to incarnate into, varying from earth-like to completely indescribable. The easiest alien i can (kinda) put into words was as a sort of pilot for a ship. But the ship existed outside time and space...i remember being this really tall, thin, blue/tan colored being with sort of muted human like features. I havent looked at this stuff for a while, but other beings would board the ship by walking through this door - just a door - hovering by itself. And once everyone was aboard the ship the pilots would then step into the door, and it would would disappear - you would have no idea anything happened if you came upon it a few seconds later, it would just be empty space. Everything inside had a very smooth, glasslike surfaces with almost a slick quality...i get the impression that it was actually not a physical ship, but that it was a semi physical manifestation of the pilots collective intention, translated from a higher dimensional plane. We controlled it with a physical interface, but its hard to describe - the whole memory of controlling it feels like it was an extension of our collective selves. I believe it was something that beings who had cultivated/honed the ability to create used to transport beings who were either not at that stage of evolution, or who had focused on other paths. A funny side note is that in leading a friend of mine through his past lives, we mutually decided he had been a massive, asexual, photosynthetic squid/cthulhu esque being in a galaxy far, far away ( ). what i was seeing just seemed too crazy, so i asked him what he perceived before i described my own insights and he managed to describe (without any leading on my part) the exact physical characteristics of the images i saw from that particular life of his. That helped solidify for me that it was part of his stream of incarnations.Themaster: Woohoo! Fellow Denverite! Thanks for the welcome. How do you like this city? Im not sold on it, probably wont be in the end - but im a gypsy. There are a ton of spiritual resources here which is neat, but i have noticed a certain flakiness in the natives and those who stay to long; maybe it comes from grounding oneself to a small city pretending to be a big one?  Any recommendations for meeting like minded folks here in town? I know most of the cast from the major metaphysical shops and cafes, but none of them could be called friends. |
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03-16-2009, 05:14 PM
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Zuvuya, This sounds really incredible, I'm really glad you shared this! So if beings from across the universe know how to travel about it so easily, when are they going to come visit Earth and share what they know with us? Have they already? I think Erin knows the answer to this. I have so many questions, how could I go about exploring material of this nature? |
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03-16-2009, 06:14 PM
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How do you explore these things? Go do it! Sit, down, meditate, and imagine your awareness floating away, leaving your body (always have psychic protection, and maybe the name of a good arch angel around in case it gets muddy, heheh). In mayan beliefs, each star in a system was operated by a living consciousness (albeit one in a higher dimension) and it received waves of information from the center of the universe via its own galactic core, which it then broadcasted to each planet.. One thing that works is to enter into the core of the sun of our system psychically, vibrate with the energy a bit, then move to the core of the galaxy and tune your vibration to that, then finally the center of the universe. When will they show up? When life on earth is a vibrational match - maybe it already is a vibrational match for certain beings? It doesnt mean we have to be at the same level of evolution, but we need to be vibrating on a wavelength that is similar to theirs. It goes back to the concept of the LOA. Many souls who have more "off-world" energy came here specifically to awaken to their nature and then use that as a means to help humanity shift into the very vibration that will allow it to become part of galactic consciousness. So they're already here in a sense. But thats just one level of the reality illusion, its still all drama. Alien stuff is very, very interesting and fun - but its also a huge distraction. Dont discount it, but i wouldnt recommend letting it hook your attention too much. Although, beings from sirius, arcturus, and the pleiades can be very useful to work with. Also, anything that is capable of travelling to earth would be extradimensional. So most alien's are also extra-dimensional being's, and if you study hinduism, christianity, or most other religions, they clearly state that devas/angels live in higher planes of existence, and as such are extradimensional. I would say the three can be distinct, but sometimes it does get blurry. The biggest thing with all of this is that we tend to project our own minds onto our psychic perceptions - a lot of what has lead me to believe strongly in the above is having shared the experiences with friends, having been told such things in dreams only to read them later in a book, etc. Thats why people who are psychic sometime use "cold reading", i think it helps them get back on track with what they are doing. Check out the book "Inner Paths to Outer Space". I have only glanced over it, but it was a christmas present from last year and is about what we are discussing. But thats just one level of the reality illusion, its still all drama. Alien stuff is very, very interesting and fun - but its also a huge distraction. Dont discount it, but i wouldnt recommend letting it hook your attention too much. Although, beings from Sirius, Arcturus, and the Pleiades's can be very useful to work with. Last edited by Zuvuya42; 03-16-2009 at 06:17 PM. |
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03-17-2009, 03:18 AM
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But for example according to bashar crop circles aren't really all ufo contact.. they are in fact us contacting ourselves (global consciousness)However to be honest ufo contact borress me.. so I'm not like ontop of it.. the people that ask bashar about it.. get 100's of alien names and hybrids visiting etc. Zuvuya42 Denver doesn't have sophisticated new age groups that I know off.. those places are in cali I think maybe sedona.. maybe.. but then again as I noted we don't really talk about advanced stuff all that much here.. and you can see we have highly separated forums that are about essentially in my view all the same "subject" As for denver can't say.. lot of backward people here yes.. (including some of my family ) but we managed to get them to vote "democrat" that's a forward direction (somewhat).. Your welcome to have a meetup with me.. when I'm back in town.. as for smart nerdy types.. there's a group that does a sci-fi book meetup at a barnes & noble on meetup.com (last I checked) you could give that a shake.. As for new age groups while I have tried a few.. I can't offer any I really recommend.. but my sampling was back in 2006 so maybe things change.. I'm sure you'll be moving on.. if you have not been to sedona or cali.. those are some exciting places of energy (kinda) Denver's greatest attribute I think is mild winters.. and voted most likely to survive a worldwide tsunami | |
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03-23-2009, 05:40 PM
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Also, during a dream, I traveled with my girlfriend at the time, to the Dragon realm and revisited friends of that past life. | |
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03-24-2009, 05:24 PM
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really interesting.... man, reading this stuff was like when I found out about The law of attraction... it's very complex and almost scares me. I think I have a phobia of space... Maybe... In lucid dreams I have not wanted to fly into space, though I haven't had very long lucid dreams yet
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03-25-2009, 03:46 AM
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03-25-2009, 03:55 AM
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If you want a GREAT read on the subject, pick up Michael Newton's "Journey of souls". It's documented case histories by hundreds of people in deep trance, over a period of several years...all telling exactly the same thing about the dealings of what goes on between lives. When you read that book, you'll understand that even just to be incarnated in 2 physical bodies simultaneously takes a tremendously experienced and evolved soul. | |
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03-25-2009, 11:51 PM
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I get my facts from "channeled" material.. you get your facts it sounds like from one the many people on this planet.. caught in the illusion.. (did you even read any of this thread??.. 30 lifetimes going on this planet.. + who knows how many dozens of more going on at various places all over.. I don't think you understand the idea of a over soul.. and are caught in limited thinking about the idea of re-incarnation.. this is a limited reality after all.. lots of people get caught in ideas of limited thinking SEE ABOVE) Here are the facts (maybe it will help you understand) - Welcome to the illusion.. part of the big illusion is the illusion of time.. everything is happening right now.. every past life, every alternative life.. every parallel reality.. yesterday, today for you.. birth, death.. it's all right now.. (can you imagine it’s all happening right now? Good.. cause as far as I know that’s the truth..) - My facts come from the channeled entity.. Bashar.. who stated that 200 million oversouls are working on the planet at this moment and or this reality.. so you do the math.. it's about 30 people per this reality based on the 6 billion or so estimate number of humans here at this time.. (in fact I digress that it is impossible to not get caught into ideas of LIMITED thinking.. cause after all this is a limited reality.. so I mean that we all have including myself limited thinking..) Last edited by themaster; 03-26-2009 at 02:24 AM. |
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03-26-2009, 02:52 PM
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If you buy into the Ra material, most souls here originally incarnated on Mars until their wars made Mars uninhabitable, thus the thirst for war here on Earth.
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03-26-2009, 11:25 PM
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Ra is interesting to read.. though you'll note he also talks about oversouls.. The Law of One Search Results for “oversoul†Timelines do not change the facts.. all incarnations are happening NOW.. not then, when or whenever.. this includes the Mars incarnations you’re talking about.. be they here or in another reality.. Last edited by themaster; 03-26-2009 at 11:30 PM. |
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04-01-2009, 07:34 AM
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Ahhh! Finally some interesting discussion on the SP forums. With the 30 souls at the same time thing. I don't know where you got that number from either but it seems quite accurate. Then again if we are talking about non-linear time, we are all our past, present and future lives all at once. I had a reading with Anna Conlan and apparently my 'first' incarnation was from another star system. I also don't recommend getting too involved in this alien stuff. You're here on Earth to grow, not reminisce your past lives |
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