The Unconscious Mind + The "Monster Within"

[Rebecca800]

I've been researching theories of the unconscious mind for a new article on my website.

I uncovered a fascinating (+ slightly terrifying) theory about the primitive brain and the development of the unconscious to protect our civilized brain from violent urges.

Obviously this kind of abstract theory is hard to prove but it makes a lot of sense to me... I wonder what other people think about this. Are we all struggling to keep the lid on our pre-historic caveman brains?

Here's the article which elaborates on this theory a little better: The Unconscious Mind: Theories of The Dream World

I'd love to be able to cover this topic in more depth in future. Please share your ideas and experiences...

[Old Soul]

very cool web page!!

I had a vision not to long ago, and in these types , it is always like I am watching through a telescope, so i am seeing the image through a perfectly round circle ,
and in this vision I saw an arm reach down and put a piece of paper on the footstool , one side of the paper was empty the other side said "The peaceful warrior" then the arm dropped 2 pennies on it .....

recently I was reading a book my daughter picked me up for Christmas , and on page 5
there was this poem with a picture of 2 pennies on the top
poem:

What if you slept?
And what if in your sleep, you dreamed?
And what if in your dream, you went to heaven
and there plucked a strange and beautiful flower?
And what if, when you woke, you had the flower in your hand?
Ah! what then? -Samuel Taylor Coleridge



here is a dream

in this dream my step son who is adult , and I were sitting in a dark room , the only light shining was from he and I, like a glow from off of us , although adults were child in heart and mind

he says want to see what I made , I say sure!!!! he then hands me a perfect little miniature
3 in long the first section was a sphinx, the middle was a pyramid , the 3d was an Eagle the eagle had its wings outstretched, each crafted piece was 1 inch in size


just as he hands it to me , the pyramid filters through my fingers , like shiny grains of sand... we were both in awe!! like wow how cool

then i wake up... Here is one interpretation of this dream from off another forum

I'm not sure if you're familiar with Neoplatonism, but like so many other "beliefs" it is based on the principle of "three". There is "the one" (plato called this "the good") which is the source of all life; this transcends into the intellect (which I sometimes refer to as the "we" or nous) which for me is the same as Jung's "collective unconsciousness". This then transcends into a material form, referred typically as a "soul". So I see your eagle, pyramid, and sphinx as "the one, the intellect and the soul".

This concept is also depicted by the solar disk of Akhanatan as a sun with rays that form into human hands.

So behind the "material form" of a sphinx, there is the "intellect". A pyramid is a prism that takes one source of light and turns it into many colors, sort of like the "rays of the sun". And behind that is the "source of life", which you depicted as an eagle. Maybe to represent "freedom to live". The pyramid turning to sand I feel also represents time, but each grain of sand represents a "lifetime" all forming an unconsciousness that's as vast as "grains of sand".

So when your step son says "look what I've made" , it could mean the same thing as "look what you've made" or look what we've made. Neoplatonism is considered to be "monist" in nature. In monism, the "creator" and "created" are one. We transcend the source of life, and are not seperate.

even though , it was cautioned as your blog says the answer really must come from me .. thought it would fun to post this response .., as without history of the dreamer or people in the dream it is only symbols and very subjective much more than if i were to find meaning in the dream

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by Rebecca800

I uncovered a fascinating (+ slightly terrifying) theory about the primitive brain and the development of the unconscious to protect our civilized brain from violent urges.

Obviously this kind of abstract theory is hard to prove but it makes a lot of sense to me... I wonder what other people think about this. Are we all struggling to keep the lid on our pre-historic caveman brains?

I think the subconscious developed or evolved because it's more efficient to let most things run automatically. We humans evolved into having an aware function part of our mind that isn't involved with automatic processing. What gets stored in our subconscious is what we do over and over, then they become patterns that easily fire off.

I see keeping the lid on subconscious desires as a product of how much repression one may be in the habit of doing. Not that our animal brain would be unruly without our awareness. I would think, given a chance, the animal part of our brains would be much more natural at living life that our analytical mind's over thinking everything.

I think we evolved by being in harmony with nature and the animal brain wasn't a huge monster at all. It changed to find a balance instead of being in chaos and violence - those brains that did more chaos and violence didn't survive, as in natural selection. So then the brains that did survive found more harmony with nature and less violence and that allowed the aware functions to evolve. These humans were not always under threat or causing threat, so there was space for the aware functions to grow. In other words, we would have never been able to become aware, if the animal brain was still totally consumed by violence and chaos.

[Inspirations]

Rebecca,

If you would like to experience your own subconscious and true self minds, I'd be happy to show you how...

Then you will see that they are nothing like, nor as complicated or mysterious as people think...

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by Inspirations

Rebecca,

If you would like to experience your own subconscious and true self minds, I'd be happy to show you how...

Then you will see that they are nothing like, nor as complicated or mysterious as people think...

how do you show people how to experience their own subconscious and true self minds?

[Inspirations]

wolfgang,

The technique is quite easy, which people learn and then direct themselves through, or for those who do not know the technique, I lead them through (takes about an hour in a private chatroom).

Then they can resolve any emotion, painful memory, wound, dysfunctional belief etc. that is stored in the subconscious.

[aphorist]

I don't think the 'unconcious mind' is the 'subconcious mind,' we really need to define these terms to move on. Yesterday, I'm pretty sure I broke into my 'unconcious mind' which I'd even prefer to say it's my 'concious mind' and that this 'normal mind' is 'unconcious.'

In any case, in this state, I saw the universe as this expanse of energy. I saw society as a HUGE control on this energy, something in conflict with the universe. I saw all right and wrong disappear. I felt totally in control, but at the same time I knew if I told people about the ideas and emotions I felt, they'd say I'm clinically insane. That's when I started to see danger in society. That the lack of understanding is what locks people up and ties them down.

I don't think the 'unconcious mind', as the OP suggests, has violent urges. I think it's the normal mind, the ego, which has violent urges and it's when you're locked into this system of 'reality' that you feel like things can harm you if you don't harm them.

[Andy4]

Some interesting posts and stories here.Good replies.

Instict is in all living things.I believe that dreaming is our subconcious mind's way of firstly communicating with us and secondly training us to deal with difficult situations in waking life.That's why they are often scary.

I want to learn more about dreams,one of my now sadly departed relatives appears regularly to me.About once or twice a week,not recurring.It's mainly comforting but seems sometimes warning then I get worried because the warning is not specific,just a feeling.

Regards,Andy.

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