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| Advantages: it should work even if you dont belive in it (yes, that`s right) the effect is immediate The cure: Say outloud, or in your head the words: "I rebuke thee in the name of Jesus Christ" Did I mention it will work even if you dont belive it ? It is a cure against: sleep paralysys, alien abduction, astral vampires, etc. The reason it works even if you dont belive is because it is not you who is doing the work. Not in this case. Important: The name is "Jesus Christ", not Yahushua, not Yashushua, not Yahuashua, and not any other derivations or interpretations |
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There is nothing wrong with using the name "Jesus" but it certainly isn't the original form of the name; it's the translation we happen to use in English.. | |
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That`s not the point. The point is that when there is trouble we should have something we are sure it works. When some dude wakes up paralysed and some weird interdimensional creature posing as an alien is messing with him, and then he says "I rebuke thee in the name of Jesus Christ", the creature will go away and he will be ok. Maybe even have a kodak moment as the thing goes spining back to where it came from. The reason I warned about wrong names is because I saw a video from some guy who does exorcisms, and helps people who are into channeling, but they dont know what they are getting into and they channel some bad spirit. He said that the bad spirits are very cunning, even posing as lightworkers or angels, and then give bad advice to people and then those people put that advice on their website, tell it to their friends, etc. He uses a test to see if a spirit is bad or not. The test is to ask that spirit to say that "Jesus christ came in the flesh". The bad spirits can not say this. But then, the spirits being cunning and evil and stuff, they try to trick him and the person doing the channeling by using some made up name, that sounds very similar but has no power. They are saying "look, I can say it, see, I am a lightworker", but when he insists on the proper name, they cant say it, because That Name has power OVER THEM. "Jesus Christ" works just fine, the exorcist guy uses it with great success (hi five to Borat). There is no need to use the original hebrew or greek name or whatever unless you want to or whatever. Cheers | |
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the youtuble vid is gone here is another one: (downloadable mp3 audio podcast episode on the subject + video is at the bottom) Nowhere To Run - How to Stop Sleep Paralysis go straight to video: How to stop sleep paralysis |
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Neo1234, NOT EVERYTHING is demons, ya know. What about the psychic that has spirits contact them to assist them in completing unfinished business from their incarnation, heal relationships they had no time to fix before death, or to just help them cross over...are you saying that they should deny their spiritual gifts (1 chorinthians12) and rebuke them all and treat everything as if it were a demon? Do you insist that a child spirit is always a demon lying or misrepresenting itself? You maybe should consider starting a thread titled "ONLY I HAVE ANSWERS, COME AND GET IN THE BOX WITH ME". I am happy to see that your method worked for you with your individual problem, but it is very narrow minded to assume that your experience is the answer to EVERYONE'S problem. It simply is NOT. For someone with authentic spiritual gifts, using God's white light protection with filtering can protect them from the snares of evil, while they continue to fulfill their calling with their gifts. Some people, are better off to embrace these gifts and to ask God, Jesus or their deity for guidance in using them to fulfill their calling. Not everything is so black and white. There are so many shades of gray in the paranormal realm, that many of us who ARE gifted have no choice but to remain outside the box and keep an open mind. I am in no way, insisting that anyone turn God away, because he did give spiritual gifts to certain people for reasons greater than ourselves. Sometimes, we need to know fear, to empathize with others experiences. If we rebuke everything we fear or do not understand, we cut off our own ability and willingness to learn...the reason why we incarnated in the first place. Blessings to you, Rebecca |
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I just say what alot of people report. Namely that night-time Demon atacks, night time alien abductions, and sleep paralisys all have very similar symptoms, and that for whatever reason, the ONLY thing that the people who are having the experience themselves say works is calling for Jesus. I didnt say this is the only thing that works. They say it. If you hear some of their stories you will see that they are pretty scary and freaky experiences and that they would do ANITHYNG to make it stop. If they would have found something else that worked to stop theese bad things I am sure they would have said so. Quote:
I can claim that I am Xorbos, the king of the pleiades, that doesnt automaticaly make me so. It apears we have two conflicting theorys about the same phenomenon. My oh my, how will we ever know what is the truth? How about we go by evidence ? If your "white light" spirit guide runs for cover when you call for Jesus Christ son of God, then there is something fishy there no ? If it doesnt then it doesnt. But you would be foolish not to test such things. I showed you my evidence now show me yours. Quote:
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They do this in order to trick the person to let them get closer, then the victim gets paralised and cant speak, and its more dificult to get read of them. Also because some people actually get tricked into beliving its a benign or inocent thing, they dont even try to get read of it, even thoo they feel how it is draining the energy out of them. They say "Oooh, it my spirit guyde trying to contact me, by paralising me and draining all my energy" (LOL) Quote:
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It is sad that even thoo the solutiuon has been found many people dont know about it and are still suffering. And how do you know it is not the solution if you havent tryed it ? In the thread where you talk about the little boy suffering from sleep paralisys, you admit you didnt tell him about this solution, you didnt even tell him to try. Even thoo this solution has been found to work consistently and it doesnt require you to be a church going cristian or whatever. Quote:
The woman in the next video did all the things you are talking about, "white light protection", she even named her "spirit guide" Jesus and it seemed to be working fine, right untill she got interestd in the real Jesus of Nazareth. Then all of a sudden her white light guides turned on her and showed their true nature as dark cold beings. skip over the boring stuff straight to 6:20 YouTube - 9-11 The New Age Movement Quote:
2 timnothy 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound judjement. As in dont rush head first into the first supernatural stuff that comes along. Make sure its safe first. And sice it is supernatural, it only makes sense that if its not safe, then you will be in a whole supernatural load of truble. So test first. If calling for Jesus Christ son of God makes the spirit run for cover, that cant be good can it ? Especially if you yourself are an atheist. That means it cant posibly be you who are scaring the spirit away. Last edited by neo1234; 04-23-2009 at 02:06 AM. | ||||||||||
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I never mentioned white-light protection to you. Your answers were good ones tho. I guess alot of people, aren't as advanced in their learnings, nor know how to determine the difference. It just seemed to me like you weren't allowing for the "determining the difference" thing before rebuking. I know the difference. I suppose many do not. Your answers at least help me to determine that you understand how and why your method works. I will still dissect it medically and scientifically because "Heal the problem, not the symptoms" is my motto, and the experiences to me are symptoms to things larger than ourselves..be it God vs Evil, Brain deformities, tumors, etc. You did say that they were all the same thing, in another thread that I started, that you took over. You did say that demons, and aliens and stuff were all the same thing. Thanks for taking the time for the educated response. Blessings, Rebecca |
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it does work!...i have done it may times, strictly on instinct that what i was experiencing was bad and what i knew would take care of it....( i also recently posted about a negative "touch" experience.) as i said...it must be nice to only experience benevolent interactions. i guess i am very black and white about good and evil...it is a matter of personal belief and experiences. i don't understand what all the fuss is about how you say it...but i do appreciate the informative volley! |
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I've been exploring alternate realities and encountering spirits and entities for years now. I've encountered good and bad. I can vouch for the fact that whenever trying to get rid of bad spirits, using the name of Jesus really does work. I don't know if it's the only thing that works. These things usually happen to me when I'm dreaming, or in the state between dreaming and waking. Here's one story in particular that I think applies: One night I woke up and I could feel a vibrating energy all over my body. This is called the "vibration stage" that precedes astral projection. As I drifted into a dream, I found myself transported to the upper floor of some house. There was a spirit there - someone in his upper teens or low 20's had committed suicide there by hanging himself off the top of the stairs. Then the spirit started to come after me. I don't know if "attack" is the right word for it, because there wasn't anger or hostility behind it, but more like a "poor me, feel sorry for me, feel my pain" kind of thing. I could feel a tightness around my neck. He kept lunging at me. Finally I decided I'd had enough, and that there wasn't anything I could do to help him, so I said "In the name of Jesus Christ, I command you to leave now." Then I saw two angels come in holding a bar between them, and they used it to sweep the spirit away. I also sensed Jesus kind of in the distance, watching. I thought Great, this is a good opportunity to have a little chat, so I told Jesus that I was his servant, and that I would do anything he asked of me. He said "You don't have to call on me. If you could only see how powerful you are on your own." I think that's the one thing a lot of people are missing. The whole point of his message was that EVERYONE can do what he did, and more. We all have it within ourselves - the same thing he found. It's not about relying on some external source. Although that works, that's only the first step. The next step is finding the same thing within yourself. As Jesus said "The kingdom of Heaven is within you." Eventually we will move beyond calling on Jesus' name to deal with negative spirits - we will use our own power. |
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i believe what you are saying to a certain extent. you appear to be much more evolved in this area than i, so again can only go by personal experience and belief at this point. i believe any power we have ultimately comes from Jesus through us at any given moment it is needed. besides i do not think He minds us depending on Him once in a while. |
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Neo1234, You should read some of Judge's posts about the EGO. My concern is that your tone is over-declaritive to the point that, while you may be making a valuable point, you distract reader's from that point by "hammering it home." I was interested that you said, "even if you don't believe, it will work." AT that point, I actually considered the idea. But you quickly destroyed that possibility when you showed that YOU believe (apparently fully) in the teachings of the Bible. To you the Bible is an original source of spiritual truth, reconciliation, motivation, salvation, or whatever you want to call it. JSB gave you some interesting knowledge about the origins (epistemology) of "Jesus," which by doing so alluded to, but didn't discuss, the wide range of spiritual MYTHS, which eventually gave rise to the MYTH known as Christianity. It's perfectly okay to believe in God, Jesus, the bible--what you implied by saying that only the word "JESUS" can work implies the extremist, and unfortunately stereotypical view by many Christians that THEIR answer is the only answer. So you didn't say you had all the answers, but it sure did seem that way before your later posts. I tell you my interpretation of this thread and this matter because I think you may have something valuable to offer people, but you might consider revising your approach so you don't deter a wider audience--an audience which might have a thing or two to share with you as well. We should work toward a way to thrive on our differing perspectives instead of using them to create isolation or an idealistic (opinion) of a moral stance we hold. This is the function of a "forum." |
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Historical events that are not empirically or factually known, especially when they involve supernatural elements or communication with God/gods or supernatural beings are technically considered myths. We have no scientific proof that any of the miracles or communications with God that are recorded in the Bible actually happened. It's hard enough to prove current-day miracles scientifically. Therefore, it's fair to categorize many the stories of the Bible as myths, even though to many people, they're actual historical accounts. What Philemon probably meant by what he said is that Christianity is based on a myth. Personally, I believe most of what the Bible says actually happened, although I'm not convinced that the explanations or interpretations are all correct, neither by the original authors nor the translators. Even the books themselves that were chosen for inclusion by the Catholic Church around AD 400 have been altered, and don't include many other texts that circulated among early Christians at the time. I think a lot of the events that were attributed to God, especially in the Old Testament, were actually perpetrated by the people themselves or blown out of proportion. Some of what the Bible says, I believe, was not meant to be taken literally - especially Revelations. I'm of the view that Revelations describes a personal journey of faith rather than fortelling global events. I do believe in the story of Jesus - virgin birth, miracles, crucifixion, resurrection. But I also acknowledge that that story is not unique to Jesus, but there are other historical figures who have parallel stories. The one thing I take from Christianity, that I think is one of the most important elements, comes from Jesus's last speech at the Last Supper. He talked about sending a Spirit of Truth, a comforter, who everyone could access, and by that, we would all be able to do everything Jesus was able to do, and more. This is what many people (myself included) consider the Higher Self. Through that mechanism, everyone is able to access and perceive truth directly without having to rely on intellectual understanding of a book written in a dead language that continues to be manipulated and abused by people in attempts to secure power and keep people enslaved by fear. |
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i greatly appreciate everything you had to say, especially your explanation for what philemon meant. ( i was not really sure...because of the great concern about EGO...) i am very new to this kind of forum, fascinated with it and grateful for the opportunity to listen and share. i am naive and not as informed or experienced as others in these areas. i have become a bit apprehensive, because what i have observed in a short period of time is a bit of ego, but more so, what sometimes appears as over-sensitivity about how some posters articulate/back up their statements or beliefs. back to Christianity and myths and Jesus...and again, this is a personal feeling...but i just don't think real Christianity portrays any of those things that turn people off. i am not for fire and brimstone...but if not a fear in life...maybe just at least some accountability for one's actions. not having that, or any faith or belief in a higher power, i believe, causes some people to do some really rotten things. bottom line...i try to keep it simple...Jesus wasn't all that sophisticated or complicated. thanks! |
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Zanriel, Thanks for extending the ideas about what a myth is. I also appreciate your interpretation (belief) and knowledge of the bible and its origins. I wish more believers could consider your more open interpretation (that's my Ego getting in the way--nobody's perfect.) Anyone, And let me mention that I love Jesus, but i think of Jesus as an idea instead of a person. I suppose that is what a myth is to me--ideas represented through characters, actions, emotion, conflict, resolution, and so on. Jesus is a great idea to me. And I haven't written off the possibility that he actually existed--it just doesn't seem important (to me) whether or not the events of the Bible truly occurred. No matter what, like all "history" that precedes film documentation, it now must live and be told/read as a story (myth). Overall, I am philosophically opposed to "fact" and "absolutes," and historically, big problems arise when people use myth to imply facts and absolutes. It limits thinking. Coming to a conclusive fact or absolute truth about anything "SPIRIT" is a way of haulting the pursuit towards SPIRIT (God, Truth, Mother, Source, Jesus or whatever word you want to give it) To me, the idea exists free of the words we attach to it, so any name/distinction has an air of "myth" surrounding it. Each word carries with it a number of associations that mean something different to every person. Claiming one word as the only word that embodies the idea is a form of segregation. It disturbs me because I think a lot of people think alike when it comes to "Spirit," but we get so caught up in the words we use that we lose track of the idea. The idea should drive us, and ideas are never certain/complete. The moment you think you know, that's when you don't know. And of course, if Jesus works for you, keep letting him work. Just don't forget all of the other prophets and sons (suns). Last edited by Philemon; 05-07-2009 at 04:11 PM. |
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thank you for further explaining and i can understand more where you are coming from and how this works for you, and probably for many others. some of us, i believe, can be open to the life concepts you propose and evolve because of it. but there are some of us who do believe in some "facts" and it may only just be in the area of Jesus. i can believe in the "ideas" about Jesus, but i also already believe He did exist and if you have that kind of faith in that area, then that is at least the one thing you "know." but I would never try to force this on anyone else, any more that i would like anyone force me to think otherwise...but the exchange and sharing of what works for each of us is always enriching. thanks, i won't! Last edited by aggie; 05-07-2009 at 04:27 PM. |
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I know Jesus had to have existed because of the massive impact he made on the whole world. There's no doubt in my mind that there was a real person in history named Jesus (or whatever the original was). I can't think of any other individual who's had as much impact on human society as that one man. That tells me that not only did he actually exist, but he must have pulled off some pretty amazing things to have made such a strong impression on so many people.
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I know this will look like an ultra obvious troll given the context and how I just registered, however, I felt like dropping this post: I was plagued by sleep paralysis since 2005, and it was and is a horrible experience, I couldn't go to sleep and it affected my performance, etc. I was a grown up man being afraid to go to sleep... Last year, I was reading about the benefits of Masturbation when you grow out of the prejudices, one of the benefits is that it helps sleep. As a matter of fact, it is the most natural 'medicine' for sleep... So, I gave it a try, I had to make masturbation a nightly habit, it didn't stop the sleep paralisys 100%, but it changed its frequency from daily to once in three months... After that though, I learned about meditation and started doing white light at bed, for other intentions, I think that should work as well. However, as demonized/shameful as it could be for some, I am really convinced masturbation is a very effective way against sleep disorders. |
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Maybe it's more about letting go of guilt and shame and just feeling free to be yourself and live life. I know that helps a lot. In fact, in my experience, the number one biggest defense against any type of negativity (whether you want to call it demonic or not) is releasing guilt, resentment, and regret. Forgive yourself, forgive others, and drop the chatter in your head that tells you you're bad, you're wrong, etc. Eject it like a bad tape and replace it with thoughts, feelings, and actions that make you feel good about yourself. The practice you mention, when done with self-love and good intentions, is a powerful way to do just that.
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i totally agree...my episodes of sleep paralysis come sporadically...sometimes a one night incident, sometimes several consecutive nights and are frightening....and i can say that almost everytime it is when i consider myself to be spiritually vulnerable (and feeling that negative entities try to take advantage at that time). usually it all goes back to circumstances or people that have temporarily threatened my mental and spiritual well-being. and whatever it is that helps one overcome that from Jesus to letting go...and regaining strength for and in one's self...that is indeed the key.
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If we are allowed not to be scientific, I got another theory: Sleep Paralysis comes from an active and incorrectly controlled paranormal perception / "psychicness" . When you go to sleep and got predisposition for those things without knowing, you might reach some elevated state in sleep and some of the dudes that love energy will stick . Masturbation is a very earthly thing it "grounds" you into the material world before going to sleep, thus reducing your connection to the spiritual side. -- On a less paranormal view of things, I also noticed that if you change your sleep position, it helps. | |
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Just figured I'd mention that sleep paralysis is there for a purpose. From a non paranormal perspective, it's there to protect ourselves from injuring ourselves. The opposite of sleep paralysis would be sleep walking and that has caused many disasters in the past. You only experience the paralysis part when the mind has woken up before the body, in which case shouting out something like that could have a shock affect on your body essentially willing yourself to get up. Dark figures in the corner of the eyes may just be tricks playing on your mind, which is understandable since paralysis usually induces fear within an individual. If this has all been mentioned before, err please disregard this post. |
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from a non paranormal perspective that makes some sense...the thing is how do you know for sure that it is merely a physical non paranormal protection against sleepwalking. every experience i have had has been frightening...and i don't have any desire to get up and walk around...i want whatever i feel is holding me down to go away!...i also had an experience of "hands" sliding underneath my body trying to slide me off of my bed...when i was able to shake this sensation off...i actually looked to see if my husband was still asleep beside me (thought it could've been him)....that was how intense and definite the sensation was...
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