Can guides read your mind?
 

I've recently started getting readings from a variety of sources, and astounded by what I'm learning. What has surprised me, however, is that guides, spirits, etc. can't seem to discern internal intention.

For example, I have been advised to detach myself from outcomes that, though outwardly I may appear committed, internally I had already realized the need to move on. If my feelings on the outcome were clear to guides or spirits, I wouldn't expect such advice.

Likewise, asking general questions such as "Why am I frustrated" while thinking about a specific event will generate different (and often startling) answers regarding unrelated issues.

I find this extremely surprising and was wondering what others could share on the topic of thought and spirit.

Good question!

My guess would be that while Guides can help and assist you in the right ways, even they are limited compared to the Divine Spirit (i call God) I think only that Spirit can read minds, but spirit guides can only tell what your thinking by your aura, or by spiritual intuition. They still are given gifts and strengths we humans in these bodies don't have--but even they need to derive energy from a Higher Source. .

Then also, I'm sure there are entities that pose as guides too- so you have to have discernment in who is genuine I'd guess.

i just asked my guide and they said they can but only when we intend them to do so, such as when we are in direct telepathic communication with them. they wont go around reading your mind during the day or when your thoughts are private, as they do not interfere with your free will.

i do think they know you though, from reading your energy more than your thoughts per se, as thoughts are energy too, and they probably just read the whole blurb of emotions+thought+whatever else and know you that way.

Skydust has that right.

Guides are capable of reading your mind, though that's not exactly how they view it. If you want direct help and information from your guides, you're best off communicating with them directly (or through a psychic if you can't do it on your own yet). Also, if they see you are in trouble, they will try to help you, but they are limited in what they can do and how quickly they can do it. Remember, they're not fairy godmothers and can't just wave their magic wand to get you out of a jam.

As a whole nothing is separated. It is the degree of how sensitive one is, to be able to pick up that which is around an individual.

That which does not manifest physically does not mean it does not exist. When one thinks, any idea that is thought of exist,which creates intention, need not wait to be expressed physically to consider something from an individual exist.

As above, so below. When you can see an individual, the individual can also see you; it is just whether the individual is sensitive enough to pick up your intention. When you test someone, the same applies, your intention alone is already tested on you; and so forth.

Right firstly? 'I've recently started getting readings from a variety of sources...' What kind of sources is that you speak of, what kind of sources have you open yourself to?

When your intentions are playing with them, get ready for the same treatment.

Second, when you ask them for help, know that there are many levels of wisdom among them, it is like interacting with different people. Then also be aware of the other possibilities that exist which as an ordinary human are not able to comprehend. What human can comprehend, they call it logic and reasoning which limits the boundless creativity they possess if the individual keep insisting that what the individual believe in is the only way or ways.

Three, you can either do as they say, or listen to your own counsel which is much recommendable.

Four, you have to do your part. It takes two hands to make a clap.

Five, good luck, don't worry all will be well.

Thanks everyone. This is really interesting, and leads to something else I've been wondering about..

Skydust points out that guides know individuals; I assume this is somewhat like how a spouse knows a partner or a parent knows a child? Is this then how guides are able to make predictions about one's future: By knowing how a person behaves, looking at their path from "on high", and seeing where one is likely to go? Or is this kind of precognition something else entirely?

i suppose it could be a bit like that, except that its completely free from judgment. they just see you as you are in your totality in each moment and hence, know you.

yes you could say that. i am reading the book opening to channel at the moment, and what it sais about future predictions by guides is that the future is merely probabilities as it is highly influenced by our thoughts, beliefs, etc. so the future is never solid and it is like you say only what is most likely to happen. they also say that guides prefer not to give you predictions, as this could be limiting to you, but that they would rather help you in achieving the future you want to create for yourself.

i suppose by being able to read you in your totality, they can easily see where you are heading at the moment and what your likely future is if you continue on the same path. however, whenever you change your beliefs or expectations, the book sais, you change your probable future accordingly.

Okay, this makes sense. But when folks in physical form experience precognition.. what is that? Is it a dream of a probability, visions from a guide? Something else?

Tuning in to the time stream, or getting a message from a guide or deceased relative. There are many avenues for seeing the future.

Nurikabe, this reminds me of another way of the advice given to people seeking guidance through another channel - divination.

The oracle answers the whole person, and comes from a place that knows the whole person - but nonetheless, I'd always encourage people to get really clear and specific in the wording of their question. It's not about what the oracle - or whatever speaks through it - does or doesn't understand; it's about how inwardly clear the querent is.

Taking time to work out exactly what your question is, when divining, means going deeply into the issue and rooting round to find your real motives and what you're really willing to undertake. (Eg someone asking if a relationship'll work out - it makes a difference whether he/she is asking from a place of commitment themselves.) The true question isn't always the first one to come to mind.

I wonder whether something similar might be happening in your experiences with guides - whether their responses might actually be reflecting the whole of your question and questioning. In other words, it's not that they don't discern your internal intention and feelings, it's that they respond to that and everything else about you, in proportion: what you feel and intend, what you've decided, what you're doing, what you're unsure about, maybe even what you're trying hard not to think about.

A minor example from my own divinations. I've had very different responses from asking,
"What if I buy this book?"
as compared with asking
"What if I buy this book and read it and follow its advice?"
I might protest that there's no real difference between the two questions - that of course I intended from the start to read the book and implement what I learned. But the oracle clearly recognised a difference between my vague good intentions and an explicit decision to do something. (And considering the number of ebooks gathering electronic dust on my hard drive, it has a point. :o )

Any help?

Thanks Erin. So, the time stream is the most probable outcome based on one's "state of being", maybe coupled with immutable physical laws acting on an individual?

Can a psychic also also tune into other probabilities, other "what if"s?

Hillary, thanks too for your response. I'm pretty sure I understand what you are saying, but could you elaborate on the difference between divination and other methods?

Sorry for all the questions folks, and thanks for your guidance.

Yes, definitely we can tune in to other probabilities. Sometimes when I'm doing a read for someone they ask what will happen if they move to a different career. they give me their three top choices and I can tell them what will happen with each one.

For example, in the first, you might be successful but not make as much money as you want. In the next, you might find your future wife. And maybe in the third you will get a lot of money but it will ultimately end in failure. These are just examples of the possibilities. But yeah, I do that for people all the time.

This usually happens when someone is standing in the proverbial maze and are at a crossroads and has a few options to choose from. There is more than one way through the maze, but sometimes having someone tell you where the different paths will lead will save you some time from not going down a path that ultimately won't fulfill you.

Difference between divination and other methods? In the essential - what's basically happening - I don't think there is much difference. Those questions and possible answers Erin just described are very much the kind of thing you could do with an oracle, too. In either case, you're reaching out and connecting with a source of truth.

One difference is that with an oracle, you're entering into a system of some kind and it helps to learn about it. And better, more complete systems make it easier for the answer to get through to you - and the latest glossy card pack may or may not have what it takes. There's a case for saying that if you can make a direction connection with the same source that speaks through the oracle, why bother with the oracle at all? (That might be another thread!)

Another difference is that not everyone has the kind of gift Erin has to make the direct connection, reliably, skillfully and in full awareness. (Or maybe everyone has it in potential, but most of us have no clue how to access it... Erin, what do you think?) You don't need that kind of gift or self-belief to use an oracle. Though working with one, over the years, may develop your own native gifts of direct insight.

And using an oracle is a kind of insurance against human error. It's far from being perfect - people can interpret creatively if there's an answer they want badly enough... - but the I Ching in particular can make it very hard to kid yourself. The structure of the reading itself will sort out to some extent what elements of the situation are your own desires and fears. A reader working on her own has to sense this by herself - and may be picking up, telepathically/empathically, a lot of detail from the person she's reading for.

Hope that helps!

Everyone can do what I do with practice. Just like some people are body builders and some people aren't, but could be if they wanted to focus on it. I've chosen to focus on developing my connection to source so I can help others, just like a strong and muscular person might help out someone with weaker muscles like moving a sofa or something. ;)

What is an oracle? Are you talking about oracle cards?

Okay, this makes a lot of sense. Odd, but I suppose I was thinking of precognition in a very linear, deterministic way. Which would leave the psychic with a pretty simple (and boring!) job: "Yes, do that, because it will happen. And no, don't do that, because it wouldn't happen anyway.." :rolleyes:

Hilary, by oracle do you mean those who are extraordinarily gifted, like the Oracle of Delphi?

from what i understand oracle is another word for medium/psychic, or a wise person who can tell the future. apperently the word is derived from the Latin verb orare, to speak.

By 'oracle' I mean an oracle system like tarot, runes or the I Ching. The one I know and work with is the I Ching, 'Book of Change', the Chinese oracle that's been in continuous use since its creation about 3,000 years ago.

So can my guides and angels not hear me when I'm talking to them in my head telepathically intending for them to hear me? Or should I just talk aloud to them?

They will hear you if you speak to them telepathically in your head. I used to wonder the same thing. Great question.

What you want to do is try to form a connection so that when you do need to get a message to or from them it's a little easier to tune in. It's like shouting into the wind if you're not very good at connecting with them. But if you are practiced at it and know your guides, it's like having a crystal clear phone connection ( or a Bat phone with an instant, single, dedicated connection). :)

Ha- I used to also wonder this. Both work, though as a human on earth for 35 years, I am used to using my mouth for talking, so I talk out loud to my dead relatives. Theyve told me either method works for them, but sometimes if ive got a really important message, I tend to speak it to make an emphasis, to tell them its important.

For me the best way to differentiate my own thoughts from precognitive thoughts or my dead dad talking to me through telepathy is that my own thoughts are pretty cyclical, disorganized and jumbled. A message from the 'other' realm will come through with clearly defined borders, in a complete sentence, and will stand out against the background noise in my head. It used to sound like my voice, but now its starting to sound more and more like my dad's voice. Its very hard in the beginning to determine if you're just imagining a message. But the more that come to you, the better youll get at it.

ooo i like this thread.

i actually have an example of my guide (or some spirit) interfere with my own thoughts to tell me it was definitely the wrong way to go
i was just walking down the street thinking 'oh maybe i can help her once i get such and such' and all of a sudden something pulled a good chunk of my hair in my pony tail from the middle part of the tail thus it could not have been pulled by the elastic band.
but i think it was because they were really frustrated i hadn't figured out my path yet and thinking of helping people in ways i shouldn't waste my time with.
the sidewalk was clear by the way, no protruding bushes or tree branches for my hair to get caught on!

a good way to tell if its someone else talking is if its something you would have never thought of yourself.
another example of me walking down the street and i kept feeling a 'knock at the door' from my grandfather who passed away this year. i thought it was my guilt speaking because i'm always arguing with my mom..
eventually i answered the door and i was like.. 'yes yes, i know what you want to say.. stop fighting with my mother i should be nicer'
then he blew me away by saying 'no no, that's her problem to work out.(!!!) i am unhappy because you are not living your life with GUSTO!'
and then he disappeared. part of me was feeling like did i make that up? but i felt like his presence was very randomly at my door and insisting on its presence without my guilt that i realized it was really him.
plus i told my aunt later and she said 'yup it sounds like him!' (i didn't know him too well.. he lived in another country)
:)