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Destine4destiny · 12-07-2008, 01:59 AM

My whole plan for this period in my life was to cleanse myself out spiritually and physically but I didn't know it was going to cause me my peace of mind and my comfortability. It is so amazing what things have such negative energy- bathrooms, chairs, garbage cans, cars,pictures in the subway the air we breath, the tunnel in the train stations almost everything I came in contact with had negative energy and that to me was unbearable because some were too strong to handle.

Parthon · 12-07-2008, 04:24 AM

I must say, that just because something has a engative energy, that doesn't mean it's inherently bad.

I don't think you've lost your peace of mind, at least no permanently. You've just become more aware, and as the initial shock wears off, you'll have more ability to live accurately in the world.

I think the next step is how to bring more positive energy into those situations, and how to generate positive energy in yourself so you can protect your core and repel outside negative influences. It's not a case of shutting yourself out from these influences, but seeing the truth behind them, and positively being stronger than them. You don't fight back, and you don't back down, you just are simply stronger at your core.

themaster · 12-07-2008, 07:39 AM

Aren't you just bringing it on a just bit strong?

Everything in this world as my teacher says is.. "inherently neutral" it's the decisions of treating it as negative, neutral and or positive that our choices we make..

I won't disagree with you that there is negative or negative ideas/beliefs in us all.. but I will disagree with you on the fact that there is positive in all negative.. you can change the view that is your choice.. I also won't disagree with you that world is full of toxins that can be cleaned out..

I'm not even sure you have the right experience model in mind for whatever you've done.. how can you exist here and then as you claim raise yourself to another level and then be sickened?

From another level from another perspective there is only love of this experience of illusion, I don't think you've risen all that far or at all..

strawbear · 12-07-2008, 01:29 PM

aww i'm sorry. i know how you feel, it's just all so overwhelming and somewhat depressing that you don't know if you want to be this aware....
i hope you continue tho even tho it's hard

Destine4destiny · 12-07-2008, 01:47 PM

Maybe I perceived it wrong because the energy were extremely overwhelming for me it was my first time stepping out after cleaning myself out from emotions and thoughts so I perceived any emotion that try to pull me in as being negative and if they weren't then I perceived it as being good. But in reality I was sensing energy from every where as metioned before in the tunnel, pictures on the train, garbage cans, doors, cars, and people. Some of these energies that were trying to pull me in were too strong for me but I fought them off. All this took place after reading Your Aura and Your Chakra The Owner's Manual by Karla Mclaren. Is this really suppose to happen to me?

Parthon · 12-07-2008, 04:11 PM

Yes, it's meant to happen. You've just raised your awareness and the first thing that happens is you see everything that you didn't notice before. What you are noticing was already there, but now you are seeing it.

The only thing you have to do is persevere, and build strength in yourself. Don't fight against the negative energy, because that will only create more of it. Just generate positive energy to counter act it, acting as a neutralising shield. Send out love and compassion to the negativity.

Philemon · 12-07-2008, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parthon

The only thing you have to do is persevere, and build strength in yourself. . .

Send out love and compassion to the negativity.

Yes! Parthon puts it well. Don't worry so much. Ultimately, you will be glad that you are more aware and attuned to your surroundings. It will improve your life. Anyone who takes on new knowledge regularly feels a little overwhelmed. Just keep going, keep learning, keep looking. Don't regret your spirit. It's yours.

Destine4destiny · 12-07-2008, 08:50 PM

Thank you so much guys you just don't know or probably you do know what it felt like. It was just amazing to me when it started I was in the train and I was coughing and pushing the energy away from me with my hands and then I kept grounding myself. I kept my sun chakra on for a long time for support then I stopped and started sending out love but I lost my focus and thats when I had to push energy that was on my face, my chest,and my forehead even the air that I was breathing had to be let out. I felt like an empath!

I came home my sister and I got into an arguement because I felt a strong energy coming from her and I told her she needs to clean her spirit. Of course, she took offense to it and became confrontational because I did not want to be around her. It was just a big old mess yesterday for me but I did weather the storm and woke up with a clear head and tried my best to build a much stronger aura so these overwhelming energies won't invade my space.

Cuddles444 · 02-18-2010, 12:29 PM

Parthon has definately got the right idea.

theuprising · 02-18-2010, 11:27 PM

David who said I may be an empathic psychic said to keep out emotions from things that weren't mine I should imagine a wall around myself, out wood, brick, stone, whatever feels most natural to me. Maybe that will work for you, you've raised you psychic awareness? How did you do this, if I might ask.

Though a truly self realized person would note that even if negative emotions are around you and course through you, you don't have to suffer. Just see the emotion, and let it pass, just like how you would do w/ your thoughts. Emotions are only "bad" and "good" because your subconscious mind labels them as such, stop thinking and this will stop happening as frequently and as strongly.

Though its one thing to say this and put it into action, it takes determination NOT to suffer and its tough when there's a lot of things being thrown at you, its almost like a skill, it takes practice. I told a friend that suffering is an illusion and he told me to go tell that to a rape victime, and tell them not to suffer, I said it would be impossible since this takes practice, and not to suffer when your world is burning around you takes years of practice and determination.

learningwarrior · 02-19-2010, 04:36 PM

There is no negative energy, the same where there is no positive energy. It is what is in harmony with your specific way and what is toxic to you. Think Allergies. A lot of people have them, the goal of 'being one with your spirit' is to transcend all limitations of the ego, and eventually the human existence. >_> From this learningwarrior's point of view.

Thank you for posting this, it reminds me of the time I first had this conversation in 05.

A good thing to do since you are becoming more aware is to realize what one resists, will persist. Attempt to understand the negative energy. lol I like Star Wars because of the intentional cross-references to the Tao (pronounced Dao). Obi-Wan Kenobi and the Darth Vader characters were fighting and he tells him, "If you strike me down now, I will become more powerful than you can ever imagine." As soon as it strikes him, he merges with the 'force' [in that universe I personally would say it is the Great Spirit].

The only real enemy we have is the Ego, and it can be transcended but it stays with us in this lifetime till we die. So use the perceived enemy of the Negative, to bring about your control of your personal Ego. >_> Or don't. either way this is a great lesson for me, and it helps with understanding something my teacher taught me.

bluedragon · 02-25-2010, 05:08 AM

You are not your spirit. Being a spirit, is still being a separate identity. Where there is ego, where there is personality, identity - that is not who you are. That's why all these problems arise.

Cuddles444 · 03-31-2010, 08:51 PM

Your Spirit is already cleansed. What you don't realise is that your viewpoint makes it appear to be something else entirely. Every viewpoint and they usually come from some sort of belief we hold is an opportunity to tune that part of you back to the Spirit. Be kind, that is the quickest way to tune into spirit and function in a positive way.
Cuddles444.

magpie · 04-04-2010, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destine4destiny

My whole plan for this period in my life was to cleanse myself out spiritually and physically

How, exactly?

12-07-2008, 01:59 AM	#1 (permalink)
Destine4destiny Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 199	I regret becoming One with my spirit! My whole plan for this period in my life was to cleanse myself out spiritually and physically but I didn't know it was going to cause me my peace of mind and my comfortability. It is so amazing what things have such negative energy- bathrooms, chairs, garbage cans, cars,pictures in the subway the air we breath, the tunnel in the train stations almost everything I came in contact with had negative energy and that to me was unbearable because some were too strong to handle.

12-07-2008, 01:47 PM	#5 (permalink)
Destine4destiny Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 199	Thank you everyone! Maybe I perceived it wrong because the energy were extremely overwhelming for me it was my first time stepping out after cleaning myself out from emotions and thoughts so I perceived any emotion that try to pull me in as being negative and if they weren't then I perceived it as being good. But in reality I was sensing energy from every where as metioned before in the tunnel, pictures on the train, garbage cans, doors, cars, and people. Some of these energies that were trying to pull me in were too strong for me but I fought them off. All this took place after reading Your Aura and Your Chakra The Owner's Manual by Karla Mclaren. Is this really suppose to happen to me?

12-07-2008, 08:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
Destine4destiny Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 199	Thank you Parthon and Philemon! Thank you so much guys you just don't know or probably you do know what it felt like. It was just amazing to me when it started I was in the train and I was coughing and pushing the energy away from me with my hands and then I kept grounding myself. I kept my sun chakra on for a long time for support then I stopped and started sending out love but I lost my focus and thats when I had to push energy that was on my face, my chest,and my forehead even the air that I was breathing had to be let out. I felt like an empath! I came home my sister and I got into an arguement because I felt a strong energy coming from her and I told her she needs to clean her spirit. Of course, she took offense to it and became confrontational because I did not want to be around her. It was just a big old mess yesterday for me but I did weather the storm and woke up with a clear head and tried my best to build a much stronger aura so these overwhelming energies won't invade my space.

02-19-2010, 04:36 PM	#11 (permalink)
learningwarrior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 50	There is no negative energy, the same where there is no positive energy. It is what is in harmony with your specific way and what is toxic to you. Think Allergies. A lot of people have them, the goal of 'being one with your spirit' is to transcend all limitations of the ego, and eventually the human existence. >_> From this learningwarrior's point of view. Thank you for posting this, it reminds me of the time I first had this conversation in 05. A good thing to do since you are becoming more aware is to realize what one resists, will persist. Attempt to understand the negative energy. lol I like Star Wars because of the intentional cross-references to the Tao (pronounced Dao). Obi-Wan Kenobi and the Darth Vader characters were fighting and he tells him, "If you strike me down now, I will become more powerful than you can ever imagine." As soon as it strikes him, he merges with the 'force' [in that universe I personally would say it is the Great Spirit]. The only real enemy we have is the Ego, and it can be transcended but it stays with us in this lifetime till we die. So use the perceived enemy of the Negative, to bring about your control of your personal Ego. >_> Or don't. either way this is a great lesson for me, and it helps with understanding something my teacher taught me. Last edited by learningwarrior; 02-19-2010 at 04:43 PM.

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12-07-2008, 04:24 AM	#2 (permalink)
Parthon Family Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 1,532	I must say, that just because something has a engative energy, that doesn't mean it's inherently bad. I don't think you've lost your peace of mind, at least no permanently. You've just become more aware, and as the initial shock wears off, you'll have more ability to live accurately in the world. I think the next step is how to bring more positive energy into those situations, and how to generate positive energy in yourself so you can protect your core and repel outside negative influences. It's not a case of shutting yourself out from these influences, but seeing the truth behind them, and positively being stronger than them. You don't fight back, and you don't back down, you just are simply stronger at your core.

12-07-2008, 07:39 AM	#3 (permalink)
themaster Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: I'm a traveler everywhere and nowhere.. currently in Denver.. where else? Posts: 3,618	Aren't you just bringing it on a just bit strong? Everything in this world as my teacher says is.. "inherently neutral" it's the decisions of treating it as negative, neutral and or positive that our choices we make.. I won't disagree with you that there is negative or negative ideas/beliefs in us all.. but I will disagree with you on the fact that there is positive in all negative.. you can change the view that is your choice.. I also won't disagree with you that world is full of toxins that can be cleaned out.. I'm not even sure you have the right experience model in mind for whatever you've done.. how can you exist here and then as you claim raise yourself to another level and then be sickened? From another level from another perspective there is only love of this experience of illusion, I don't think you've risen all that far or at all..

12-07-2008, 01:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
strawbear Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: USA Posts: 63	aww i'm sorry. i know how you feel, it's just all so overwhelming and somewhat depressing that you don't know if you want to be this aware.... i hope you continue tho even tho it's hard

12-07-2008, 04:11 PM	#6 (permalink)
Parthon Family Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 1,532	Yes, it's meant to happen. You've just raised your awareness and the first thing that happens is you see everything that you didn't notice before. What you are noticing was already there, but now you are seeing it. The only thing you have to do is persevere, and build strength in yourself. Don't fight against the negative energy, because that will only create more of it. Just generate positive energy to counter act it, acting as a neutralising shield. Send out love and compassion to the negativity.

02-18-2010, 12:29 PM	#9 (permalink)
Cuddles444 Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 99	Parthon has definately got the right idea.

02-18-2010, 11:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
theuprising Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 705	David who said I may be an empathic psychic said to keep out emotions from things that weren't mine I should imagine a wall around myself, out wood, brick, stone, whatever feels most natural to me. Maybe that will work for you, you've raised you psychic awareness? How did you do this, if I might ask. Though a truly self realized person would note that even if negative emotions are around you and course through you, you don't have to suffer. Just see the emotion, and let it pass, just like how you would do w/ your thoughts. Emotions are only "bad" and "good" because your subconscious mind labels them as such, stop thinking and this will stop happening as frequently and as strongly. Though its one thing to say this and put it into action, it takes determination NOT to suffer and its tough when there's a lot of things being thrown at you, its almost like a skill, it takes practice. I told a friend that suffering is an illusion and he told me to go tell that to a rape victime, and tell them not to suffer, I said it would be impossible since this takes practice, and not to suffer when your world is burning around you takes years of practice and determination.

02-25-2010, 05:08 AM	#12 (permalink)
bluedragon Family Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 1,370	You are not your spirit. Being a spirit, is still being a separate identity. Where there is ego, where there is personality, identity - that is not who you are. That's why all these problems arise.

03-31-2010, 08:51 PM	#13 (permalink)
Cuddles444 Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 99	Your Spirit is already cleansed. What you don't realise is that your viewpoint makes it appear to be something else entirely. Every viewpoint and they usually come from some sort of belief we hold is an opportunity to tune that part of you back to the Spirit. Be kind, that is the quickest way to tune into spirit and function in a positive way. Cuddles444.

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