negative guides

[lasti]

hi!

I had a short reading today and the psychic told me I have two negative guides! (but I also have three good ones )

I'm just wondering: What do negative spiritual beings want from us when they "offer their assistance" to us?

lasti

[Erin Pavlina]

Perhaps you should instruct your three good guides to fire your two negative guides.

Seriously, I've never heard of such a thing. Are you suicidal or depressed?

[lasti]

Really?

No, I'm actually not depressed or something like that. But it made sense to me what she told me about them and why I "hired" them.

[Erin Pavlina]

Tell us more. Maybe we know them under a different name. I've encountered fear guides before. And then there's the ego... the little imp that sits on our shoulder and says, "You can't do that. You'll embarrass yourself." Etc.

[Dan.Linehan]

You control your guides. Keep that in mind.

They are working for you.

[fellowtraveler]

Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina

Perhaps you should instruct your three good guides to fire your two negative guides.

Seriously, I've never heard of such a thing. Are you suicidal or depressed?

Our synchros are working overtime today - just 5 minutes ago I finished reading Andrea Hess's "Meet your Spirit Guides" pdf., in which she briefly explains some interesting details, including a hierarchy, firing guides, and negative Guides. It's somewhere on Empowered Soul, one of her websites.

I'd never heard of them before either in the past 12 months of researching this stuff...so I assume the info was meant for both me and the poster, Erin, and whoever else will read this.

If anyone can't find it, PM me and I'll email it to you.

[lasti]

Ok.

She told me that I hired the first negative guide when I was 16/17 (that's three years ago). At this time I did not want to make a decision because I was afraid of the consequences and this guide "helped me" not to make a decision when I actually needed the courage to decide.
This year I hired the second guide. The psychic told me that this was because I was afraid of getting into a situation where I can't get out anymore. Like settling down for something I don't really want to do.


She said that these two guides are the reason why I don't see a path but just a whole lot of options and possibilities that seem not to lead anywhere.

It made sense to me: When I was 17 I began to realise that I didn't want to go to school any longer but I didn't make the decision to quit. And as a consequence of that I was two years in the "I don't want to do it, but I don't quit either"-mode.

And this year there was a long period where I also didn't chose a direction for my life because I was afraid of ending broke at the one hand or with something I don't want to do at the other hand.

And really at the moment there are things I want to do but there are a million other options that pop up and distract me and a million questions because I don't see a direction although I know myself well.

[lasti]

Originally Posted by Dan.Linehan

You control your guides. Keep that in mind.

They are working for you.

Yeah, I know. Actually they kind of worked for me but in the wrong direction (fear-based, not love-based).
The psychic also told me that I attracted them.

[lasti]

Originally Posted by fellowtraveler

Our synchros are working overtime today - just 5 minutes ago I finished reading Andrea Hess's "Meet your Spirit Guides" pdf., in which she briefly explains some interesting details, including a hierarchy, firing guides, and negative Guides. It's somewhere on Empowered Soul, one of her websites.

I'd never heard of them before either in the past 12 months of researching this stuff...so I assume the info was meant for both me and the poster, Erin, and whoever else will read this.

If anyone can't find it, PM me and I'll email it to you.

Thanks for the information!!
Synchronicities... another thing I'm missing.

[fellowtraveler]

Originally Posted by lasti

Ok. And really at the moment there are things I want to do but there are a million other options that pop up and distract me and a million questions because I don't see a direction although I know myself well.

1. You probably don't know yourself as well as you think (but you might - just that the odds are slim).

2. Despite all the seeking for answers, consulting with psychics and guides, etc. ...sometimes you just Jump in With Both Feet and see what happens. I've been doing it for 58 years and while the results are not consistently pleasant, it sure leads to a variety of experiences. One thing it has not been is boring!

"Life is what happens while we're busy making plans." - John Lennon.

[stellasky]

I was told once that I had a guide I'd outgrown and didn't need and was the reason why I was having a specific conflict in my life. It was explained that I needed that conflict at one time but didn't have that issue anymore.
So in that sense the guide was negative.

A question: if they're higher beings don't they have sense enough to know?
I mean what's the point of a guide if it isn't guiding?

[lasti]

Originally Posted by stellasky

A question: if they're higher beings don't they have sense enough to know?
I mean what's the point of a guide if it isn't guiding?

Yeah, that's also what I want to know...

[Erin Pavlina]

I don't believe guides hang around when they're usefulness is worn out. In my experience, you can outgrow a guide or outgrow a situation where you need that guide, and off they go. i've never heard of one sticking around beyond their necessity.

[Elfwing]

I have something similar - except she's ego based. Fear based. She's a part of me, not a higher being.

[Kaspian]

Originally Posted by lasti

I'm just wondering: What do negative spiritual beings want from us when they "offer their assistance" to us?

They see us as an energy source - meaning, they drain your energy to feed themselves. If they can get you to trust them, they can tell you things that sound true, but lower your vibration, making you easier to drain.

[btwendel]

Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina

I don't believe guides hang around when they're usefulness is worn out. In my experience, you can outgrow a guide or outgrow a situation where you need that guide, and off they go. i've never heard of one sticking around beyond their necessity.

Neither have I, guides that we outgrow are replaced by others that can help us forward.

Guides are there to help us, not to put us down.

[btwendel]

Originally Posted by lasti

hi!

I had a short reading today and the psychic told me I have two negative guides! (but I also have three good ones )

I'm just wondering: What do negative spiritual beings want from us when they "offer their assistance" to us?

The negative ones are usually not called guides. Andrea Hess at Empowered Soul writes about it here: Super-Charged Prayer : Empowered Soul Blog

Quote: Negative Spirit Guides or negative attaching entities can snuff out or hijack our prayers, leaving us feeling unheard and unsupported by our spiritual resources. Our own negative thought forms can even counteract our positive prayer energy, effectively canceling out our requests.

See also in the comments under Managing Your Spirit Guides : Empowered Soul Blog

Keep in mind that you control your guides, the good ones as well as the fake (negative) ones. Fire the bad ones and keep the good ones.

[AndreaHess]

Oooh, I just had to jump in here, since my work is mentioned! :-)

Erin, I'm sure you have a different perspective - we all "see" things a little differently. I do find negative entities on Guide teams with a fair amount of frequency. I'm sure you have an entirely different frame of reference!

Lasti, did that reading come from me, by the way? or one one my Soul Realignment Practitioners? Sounds like it came out of my modality, anyway!

Kaspian is right, the point of negative entities attaching and being on our Guide team is that they then have a highly intimate relationship with us and LOTS of opportunity to create negativity in our lives ... which is what negative Beings thrive on!

Divine Source, after all, is positive energy. Beings that have chosen to work with negativity need an energy source ... and we're it.

We ARE in charge of or Guide team, which is why we can "fire" the negative ones. But we have to have consciousness around this issue first, otherwise we can't make the request, right?

Negative Guides are not the same as Guides that have been outgrown or no longer serve a purpose - positive Guides WILL occasionally replace themselves, if it aligns with our highest good.

Blessings,
Andrea Hess
Empowered Soul: Develop your intuition and clear negative energy through Soul Realignment
Soul Realignment:Professional Intuitive Development

[Billy]

Originally Posted by Kaspian

They see us as an energy source - meaning, they drain your energy to feed themselves. If they can get you to trust them, they can tell you things that sound true, but lower your vibration, making you easier to drain.

Unfortunately that is true, from my perspective where I have been and what I have seen. The term guide is probably too loose a definition to be usefull in this situation. If a negative ent has some knowledge or experience that can benefit us and we attract them by association "wishfull thinking" then we have gained experience or knowledge "power" from this but because they also have less desirable traits to us, one trait being that a lot of these types of spirits are renegades or thugs with karmic debts to repay and do not have a greater source of energy to network from and are forced much like we are on earth to take from their surroundings. As we take from them this "knowledge" etc then they take from us "energy" and the worst part about it is that as they associate "align their energy" with us then they gain more acsess to our very being and thoughts. This is the basis of spiritual parasitism. The underlying motivations of many lesser spirits are the same as ours, to survive. We do so in our reality by taking from that which is most vulnerable to us, animal or vegetable and so do they, but in the ways that to them are sucsessfull. A spiritual parasite can then be a guide and also our undoing, its dualist and comes with many pitfalls but has its advantages. Protection and vigilance is the answer, I would urge anyone involved in metaphysics to consistently ask for guidance from their higher guides and the light to help expel any energies "negative ents" that are not congruent with their current situation, since they may have been usefull yesterday for the greater need but today are nothing more than freeloaders.

[Destine4destiny]

I have read some of Sylvia Brown' s books and never have I read of such things as bad guides, evil angels, and outgrown guides. This is really all new to me it leaves me wondering who can I trust if I can't even trust the guides that I chose myself. So the adage is true , you control your destiny!

[seirwyn]

wow this stuff is fascinating!! how do you 'hire' a spirit guide? I have heard of stories of guides starting out by helping and then taking over peoples minds and seriously messing them up. I think maybe there are evil enntities who hang around waiting for an opportunity to do this and take the chance when someone reeaches out for guidance. that really angers me that they woul dtake advantage of people like that! But in answer to the original question it would seem that there are some beings out there like this who just want an opportunity to mess someones life up.
That doesnt mean you shouldnt reach out for help-I guess maybe it would be a good idea to do a protective ritual first.

[seirwyn]

Originally Posted by btwendel

Quote: Negative Spirit Guides or negative attaching entities can snuff out or hijack our prayers, leaving us feeling unheard and unsupported by our spiritual resources. Our own negative thought forms can even counteract our positive prayer energy, effectively canceling out our requests.

Now I know why so many prayers go unanswered!! I have lived my life around people who pray for something and then as soon as they have prayed they talk about how they dont think it will really happen! No wonder it doesnt!! It is very interesting how peoples actions betray their beleifs!
P.S the banishing ritual of the pentagram is good for getting rid of evil entities attached to the aura.

[tintin]

i was practicing th 15th step on my own as taught by joe costa.and theres this guide there who was impersonating my real guide.i kept asking questions and he kept replying.so in one of th group sessions i went under and there he was..he started with loving msgs.and i saw a subtle shift in his eyes.they became hard.n then what a trip this guy took me on.he hung me upside down.i recently came across the term incubus..well he was that.he kept changing forms.surprising thing is that he jumped to me from the person im seeing.and was one of his "spirit guides" needless to say hes wary of going deep now.

[tintin]

one thing that iv learnt is that an entity will only attach if theres a corresponding 'need' for it.its a 'by invitation only' party so working on myself and raising my vibrations clearing out my thoughts belirf systems n keeping happy was th only answer.
ive found sonia choquettes tips very helpful some are-
1.laughter
2.physical exercise,gettin into the physical body n grrrrrounding yourself
3.chanting the magic word "AUM" instantly clears the chaffe n invites the good guys
also some tips on how to recognize em
1 they flatter.or they might tell you exactly what youd like to hear in a twisted kinda way
2.the healing they provide is totally weird and ineffectual.like i had this ent which placed colourful flowers on my areas of affliction (?)
3.and like in above posts the solution would be vague confusing and basically of no use at all.
4.even if you do have an experience like you regress or sumpin the event is modified to make you look good wud be glamourized to make you look like a super star.this i have experienced because i regressed to th same life time once with my therapist and once on my own
the details were the same...but ah one was so glamourized i was like the diva but wi my therapist turned out i was not even a main player just a watcher to the main event.